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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2008, 05:48:31 PM »

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Tight lipped
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Why would anybody come out? Get your face plastered over the Internet with accusations of cover-up and drugs and what not. Especially if your innocent.

It has been all over local media with the statements of the Casino employees. You are being cheated by the tabloid news of CNN and Fox.

By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is.

Jan van der Straaten left because his time was up. He should have retired long ago. He has been with the Dutch and Aruban police a combined 30 years. His retirement was very much publicized in the press and overwhelmingly the community regrets that he had to retire. It has nothing to do with the case. Since early this year it was announced.


The gamblers??


I thought a 6 AM call was attributed to this area...hmmm I must be mistaken.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2008, 06:03:03 PM »

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Tight lipped
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Why would anybody come out? Get your face plastered over the Internet with accusations of cover-up and drugs and what not. Especially if your innocent.

It has been all over local media with the statements of the Casino employees. You are being cheated by the tabloid news of CNN and Fox.

By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is.

Jan van der Straaten left because his time was up. He should have retired long ago. He has been with the Dutch and Aruban police a combined 30 years. His retirement was very much publicized in the press and overwhelmingly the community regrets that he had to retire. It has nothing to do with the case. Since early this year it was announced.


The gamblers??


Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:27 pm
The elder had to come clean. He knows what damage he had caused. The Simian said to not shake the wire, ‘cause the bird would fly away.
The Simian would never pose. Go back and read what the Simian wrote. The Babylonians knows what happened, but they are up in arms. The gamblers knew the girl.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Who knows what song the elder ("fallen judge") will sing
 
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:36 pm
All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2008, 06:03:28 PM »

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Simain thinks that Babalú is clueless about who the Babylonians are. The Simian thinks that is really funny.
The Simian will make an exception and answer: The gamblers knew the girl.
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2008, 06:04:22 PM »

All the gamblers knew was written down


Why did the girl owe money?
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2008, 06:34:07 PM »

in simians posts:

Babylonians = Police

18.   Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “MSNBC Tonight: Two Exclusive Interviews on Scarborough Country” | View Post

Gamblers = Casino employees

I believe Alcazars revenge = simian

Alcazar's Revenge

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I hear Shango, You haven't seen one piece of legal document on anything. So in that regard you should keep your opinion to yourself.

Why you haven't seen his face on TV, because he was never pointed to by the Twitty's. That is why.

It is a public secret that the casino employees pointed to him as being involved with Natalee and the group during their stay in Aruba. Even alluding to a romantic involvement with Natalee.


At the same time Beth Twitty states that Joran raped her daughter, because she was a virgin. That even if the sex was consensual it was still rape to her.


Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Tight lipped
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Why would anybody come out? Get your face plastered over the Internet with accusations of cover-up and drugs and what not. Especially if your innocent.

It has been all over local media with the statements of the Casino employees.
You are being cheated by the tabloid news of CNN and Fox.

By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is.

Jan van der Straaten left because his time was up. He should have retired long ago. He has been with the Dutch and Aruban police a combined 30 years. His retirement was very much publicized in the press and overwhelmingly the community regrets that he had to retire. It has nothing to do with the case. Since early this year it was announced.

65.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.



The name of the fifth suspect is in the declarations of the casino workers.
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2008, 06:40:26 PM »

Drugs?

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100. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. Comprometiendo mi abilidad de darles informacion. Lo siento. No puedo dejarme al descubierto. Pasa la informacion a los demas.
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ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. comprometiendo my abilidad de darles informacion. will siento. not puedo dejarme al descubierto. happen la informacion owing to los other
What does this mean now you guys got me going
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2008, 06:42:16 PM »

Not just a new room…a whole new house…Thanks Klaas!

Klaas…I have 11 Simian posts from the other thread that are not in the Simian posts thread. (From numbers169 to 179)I don’t think they were checked and I need to find the FP links. They are on pages 52 and 53 of the old thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.940

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.960


JE…how many days do you get from 5/30 to 9/23?…TIA

Finngirl…
Here is the link to my posts on 6/11/2005. I didn’t put the link I was reading at, but I think it was the FP. Also read it at RWV…IIRC…Sorry!

Start #483 end #491
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.480

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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2008, 06:48:00 PM »

Drugs?

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100. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. Comprometiendo mi abilidad de darles informacion. Lo siento. No puedo dejarme al descubierto. Pasa la informacion a los demas.
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ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. comprometiendo my abilidad de darles informacion. will siento. not puedo dejarme al descubierto. happen la informacion owing to los other
What does this mean now you guys got me going


from translator:

Ally, someone is passing of faker. Compromising my abilidad of giving them information. I feel it. I cannot leave myself to the overdraft. The information happens to the others. Pap translator
ally, someone is passing of faker. compromising my abilidad of giving them information. will I feel. not I can leave myself to the overdraft. happen the information owing to the other
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2008, 06:50:22 PM »

Not just a new room…a whole new house…Thanks Klaas!

Klaas…I have 11 Simian posts from the other thread that are not in the Simian posts thread. (From numbers169 to 179)I don’t think they were checked and I need to find the FP links. They are on pages 52 and 53 of the old thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.940

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.960


JE…how many days do you get from 5/30 to 9/23?…TIA

Finngirl…
Here is the link to my posts on 6/11/2005. I didn’t put the link I was reading at, but I think it was the FP. Also read it at RWV…IIRC…Sorry!

Start #483 end #491
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.480



MUM not sure i understand your question????
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2008, 06:52:46 PM »

Not just a new room…a whole new house…Thanks Klaas!

Klaas…I have 11 Simian posts from the other thread that are not in the Simian posts thread. (From numbers169 to 179)I don’t think they were checked and I need to find the FP links. They are on pages 52 and 53 of the old thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.940

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.960


JE…how many days do you get from 5/30 to 9/23?…TIA

Finngirl…
Here is the link to my posts on 6/11/2005. I didn’t put the link I was reading at, but I think it was the FP. Also read it at RWV…IIRC…Sorry!

Start #483 end #491
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.480



MUM not sure i understand your question????


112 days LOL now i'm curious
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2008, 07:02:15 PM »

Not just a new room…a whole new house…Thanks Klaas!

Klaas…I have 11 Simian posts from the other thread that are not in the Simian posts thread. (From numbers169 to 179)I don’t think they were checked and I need to find the FP links. They are on pages 52 and 53 of the old thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.940

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.960


JE…how many days do you get from 5/30 to 9/23?…TIA

Finngirl…
Here is the link to my posts on 6/11/2005. I didn’t put the link I was reading at, but I think it was the FP. Also read it at RWV…IIRC…Sorry!

Start #483 end #491
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2481.480



MUM not sure i understand your question????


112 days LOL now i'm curious

correction 116 days or 117 if we include 5/30 now i'm confused
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2008, 07:30:18 PM »

in simians posts:

Babylonians = Police

18.   Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “MSNBC Tonight: Two Exclusive Interviews on Scarborough Country” | View Post

Gamblers = Casino employees

I believe Alcazars revenge = simian

Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Rape?
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I hear Shango, You haven't seen one piece of legal document on anything. So in that regard you should keep your opinion to yourself.

Why you haven't seen his face on TV, because he was never pointed to by the Twitty's. That is why.

It is a public secret that the casino employees pointed to him as being involved with Natalee and the group during their stay in Aruba. Even alluding to a romantic involvement with Natalee.


At the same time Beth Twitty states that Joran raped her daughter, because she was a virgin. That even if the sex was consensual it was still rape to her.


Alcazar's Revenge

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Tight lipped
________________________________________
Why would anybody come out? Get your face plastered over the Internet with accusations of cover-up and drugs and what not. Especially if your innocent.

It has been all over local media with the statements of the Casino employees.
You are being cheated by the tabloid news of CNN and Fox.

By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is.

Jan van der Straaten left because his time was up. He should have retired long ago. He has been with the Dutch and Aruban police a combined 30 years. His retirement was very much publicized in the press and overwhelmingly the community regrets that he had to retire. It has nothing to do with the case. Since early this year it was announced.

65.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.



The name of the fifth suspect is in the declarations of the casino workers.


was on tape.....declarations irrelevant
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2008, 07:31:28 PM »

JE:

poison note$.....

the road is not paved


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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2008, 07:32:49 PM »

......fallen "judge"
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2008, 07:34:49 PM »

quote:
"By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is."

did he too walk in this house of babylon, but not to satiate desire?
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2008, 07:39:36 PM »

JE:

poison note$.....

the road is not paved




Columbo no offense but i need a little more info to respond to your question.
Chalk it up to my brain not working as fast as some of yours. Please elaborate a little....
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2008, 07:52:43 PM »

Drugs?

June 25” | View Post
100. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. Comprometiendo mi abilidad de darles informacion. Lo siento. No puedo dejarme al descubierto. Pasa la informacion a los demas.
  Pap translator
ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. comprometiendo my abilidad de darles informacion. will siento. not puedo dejarme al descubierto. happen la informacion owing to los other
What does this mean now you guys got me going


from translator:

Ally, someone is passing of faker. Compromising my abilidad of giving them information. I feel it. I cannot leave myself to the overdraft. The information happens to the others. Pap translator
ally, someone is passing of faker. compromising my abilidad of giving them information. will I feel. not I can leave myself to the overdraft. happen the information owing to the other


Someone is trying to impersonate me...and my information is being credited to the imposter?? The doppleganger?
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2008, 07:53:48 PM »

quote:
"By the way, the apparently the mobile phone grids do not place any of the trio near Savaneta. Savaneta is where Van Rijn's house is."

did he too walk in this house of babylon, but not to satiate desire?

I thought everyone had dismissed my favorite person as not being involved any longer? LOL 
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2008, 07:54:21 PM »

Did anyone  here ever just post all the quotes without the
Name:Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx parts
 I did it all in red very intersting

The father is trapped in a legal check mate.
The boy is mutilating his own tongue. He doesn’t want to let the old man down
The boy is biting his tongue. It is all chewed up, bloody and sore
The phone call made in the small hours
There are 3 vehicles
Ally, alguien se esta pasando de impostor. Comprometiendo mi abilidad de darles informacion. Lo siento. No puedo dejarme al descubierto. Pasa la informacion a los demas
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.
No battle. The man on the inside will call soon. The confrontation will last all night. The boy’s arrogance will be his downfall
I’m leaving now
born 2 be wild: The Simian use a Mac
The waters are low. The street are full. The night of Saint John. The fires will burn all around on the island. The smoke will clear tomorrow morning.
I’m leaving…
The confrontation is going down. “You made me lie.” “You conspired against me.” “Coward.”
Remember when they were pumping the pond by the Marriott? That is what they need to do in Montaña Noord
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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2008, 08:12:22 PM »

I thought i had to say this to make sure we dont confuse each other any more than needed.

In order to read my posts it might be handy for others to know what i think(just my opinion just as valid as anyone elses)

1. I think Simian, Merian, Alcazar, gordo are one and the same (Maybe Klaas could confirm or deny this)
   
2. I have my doubts about Shango(he/she just seems to want to add to the confusion)

This being said i hope you can put my posts in perspective

I believe Shango and Simian's use of terms like babylonians, etc, you name em, differs and that confuses us while discussing this.

Responding to a simian post with a shango quote blurs the smoke signals(this is bad i start to sound like em LOL)

It would help if everybody mentions in their responses, when using quotes, who the quotes they used came from.

Like Lala's and Finngirl said and probably others we shouldn't take the quotes out of context always look at them in relation to other posts and the events of the day

just a thought
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