SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[Lala'sMom]

FYI...the Chemaly connections...Tylergal did a lot of research on this back in 2005-06. I don't know if we still have that info, but someone may want to look at his older posts.  She worked tirelessly on this, but we may have lost it in the crash.

I think that CAPS was trying to tell us that one of the newspaper owners was present at the party.  That would be Chemaly, Jr.

Yes, I understand that...I was just saying that Tylergal's research was very good and she had some interesting info concerning all the newspapers and his connections.  I think maybe most of it has already been posted.  Just ignore me...I think I am behind again.

[Lala'sMom]

LaLa,

Has anyone every figured out who A.B./E.B. is, and is he the 5th?   

I thought we said it was that Adin Bikker (sp) fellow?  I have no idea at this point...my mind can't even recall what we have discussed about it before. LOL

[MumInOhio]

Joran Confessed Something Bad Happend
Saturday, June 11, 2005

Oduber came back and did damage control
Sunday, June 12, 2005 Posted: 11:34 PM EDT (0334 GMT)

 
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber stressed Sunday night that his government "is doing the utmost" to solve the disappearance of an Alabama teen.

"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive, and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber told reporters nearly two weeks after she was reported missing.

Thanks Blonde…I must be confused on the date. I just saw it and will go back and get the link…again…later... and post it. If I can find it LOL.

Regardless the date I am concerned with is May 29th…the Loesge posts…and if Oderber was in Aruba.

[jackb]

FYI...the Chemaly connections...Tylergal did a lot of research on this back in 2005-06. I don't know if we still have that info, but someone may want to look at his older posts.  She worked tirelessly on this, but we may have lost it in the crash.

I think that CAPS was trying to tell us that one of the newspaper owners was present at the party.  That would be Chemaly, Jr.

Yes, I understand that...I was just saying that Tylergal's research was very good and she had some interesting info concerning all the newspapers and his connections.  I think maybe most of it has already been posted.  Just ignore me...I think I am behind again.

They publish many type new papers and are publishers and owners (major) of Bon Dia as well.   jackb

[MumInOhio]

LaLa,

Has anyone every figured out who A.B./E.B. is, and is he the 5th?   

I thought we said it was that Adin Bikker (sp) fellow?  I have no idea at this point...my mind can't even recall what we have discussed about it before. LOL

Jackb and Tibro made some posts on him back towards the end of the old thread.  I will see what I can find in the index I did on him.  No link...LOL...just the page number!

[vms]

lol@VMS

Whatcha wanna know about her background?
Do It, why save it .

Come on VMS, Inquiring minds want to know. 

Maybe Renfro is Posner's Gun Maw. 

Just basic stuff. No dirt.

You want the links?

[Blonde]

On June 5, Aruban police detained Antonius "Mickey" John and Abraham Jones, former security guards

On June 9, Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and/or murdering Holloway 
 
On June 11, David Cruz, spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice, indicated that Natalee Holloway was dead and authorities knew the location of her body

The next morning,June 12,2005
 Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes contradicted the report, stating that the rumor that one of the suspects had confessed was untrue

[SS]

Crappy Island's Bonnie and Clyde

[MumInOhio]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

[SS]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

[MumInOhio]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

[vms]

lol@VMS

Whatcha wanna know about her background?
Do It, why save it .

Come on VMS, Inquiring minds want to know. 

Maybe Renfro is Posner's Gun Maw. 

Just basic stuff. No dirt.

You want the links?

Ok, hopefully this is enough but not so much that I get banned. 

Winter Park High School
1980-1984

UCF Pi Beta Phi


http://www.geocities.com/richmonp/alumni.htm
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=51529&an=0&page=86
http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/mag/back/issue3.3.html


Orlando Sentinel Archives
Search: Renfro-Drysdale

Orange County Clerk Circuit Court - 1989 Divorce

Family
Google:
Discovery Video Productions
Hawaii Sports Models

[SS]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

Yesterday. CAPS pointed to Arendz on that same list.

[MumInOhio]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

Yesterday. CAPS pointed to Arendz on that same list.

I must have missed it...what did he say?

I know it was the Arends boy that Scubajap tried to point everyone away from, as possibly being at the van der Sloot's that night.  She said it was the Arendz kid.  Wait wasn't that Freddy...LOL...Well it was some-one with the last name of Arends.

[vms]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

I have always been interested in them, as well. Peeps sure didn't want us talking about his friend...

[MumInOhio]

lol@VMS

Whatcha wanna know about her background?
Do It, why save it .

Come on VMS, Inquiring minds want to know. 

Maybe Renfro is Posner's Gun Maw. 

Just basic stuff. No dirt.

You want the links?

Ok, hopefully this is enough but not so much that I get banned. 

Winter Park High School
1980-1984

UCF Pi Beta Phi


http://www.geocities.com/richmonp/alumni.htm
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=51529&an=0&page=86
http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/mag/back/issue3.3.html


Orlando Sentinel Archives
Search: Renfro-Drysdale

Orange County Clerk Circuit Court - 1989 Divorce

Family
Google:
Discovery Video Productions
Hawaii Sports Models

Thanks vms...will save it for coffee in the morning, but definately before breakfast...LOL

[MumInOhio]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

I have always been interested in them, as well. Peeps sure didn't want us talking about his friend...

Lorenzo and Arendz...I have read most of what is posted in the Race Junkies thread.  Still question the 2 suicides of the reporter and her camera man 10 days apart and the fact that the last things they worked on were the Race Junkies and illegal prostitution. I believe Arendz is in the Netherlands now.

[bleachedblack]

One thing I do recall is that Maximillano (Bibi) Arends member of Lions Club 2005 is father of Max (Ibbi) Arends , a friend of Jorans who had left Aruba to attend Valencia Community College in Florida. He was apparently questioned and released on 6-17-2005.



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.msg251244

[SS]

SS….A.B.

Page 176, 177 and 178…may be a couple of posts on each page.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3500

It looks like some still think that he is Adnin Bikker.  Adnin Bikker was also on the list of 2004-05 members of the Lions Club that CAPS had us looking at.  I wonder if he was one of CAP'S party goers at Brickell Bay? 

Not sure...I have always been more interested in the Arends and Arendz from that list. Confusion as to which one was questioned, well it appears that both Juniors were, but when would be important and the the Race Junkies connection...and of course the Freddy connection.

Yesterday. CAPS pointed to Arendz on that same list.

I must have missed it...what did he say?

I know it was the Arends boy that Scubajap tried to point everyone away from, as possibly being at the van der Sloot's that night.  She said it was the Arendz kid.  Wait wasn't that Freddy...LOL...Well it was some-one with the last name of Arends.

It's back about 4 or 5 pages when CAPS had us pulling up the names of the 2004-05 Lions Club members.  He told us to look at the tail twister who was Arendsz.

[MumInOhio]

One thing I do recall is that Maximillano (Bibi) Arends member of Lions Club 2005 is father of Max (Ibbi) Arends , a friend of Jorans who had left Aruba to attend Valencia Community College in Florida. He was apparently questioned and released on 6-17-2005.



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.msg251244

Hi BB...Scuba posted at RWV that she spoke to his Dad in a movie theater in Florida and he was shocked to hear his son's name mentioned in the case. It's in the other thread somewhere or I may have saved it. I have to leave in a bit, but will see if I can find it later.

Seems there was confusion over which one was questioned when Lorenzo was and of course neither of them are in the Dr Phil documents.

I recall pictures of both with their Dads. Max', that is were posted not so long ago on the NAH thread.