SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[COLOMBO]

Fellow Monkeys, Today we put to rest the issue of the virgin issue away. it is solved.

CAPS says: the issue that confused the world was that the riddle uses Boolean Logic confuse the readers and so Mary = Natalee and Mary = Julia Renfro the photographer

Now how do we know which Mary in the Riddle is Natalee and Julia

The answer is in the Boolean Logic test put in the statements.

Please continue working on the party-goers, I see mayor progress.

On the Julia issue, does she take pictures her self or does she has someone to do it for her.?

Now when I was in Hollywood, I took a tour of the set "The Shango" and the Director said Cut and then he said ?????

Back to the drawing board my friends.

ROLL 'EM?????

and the winner is COLOMBO, you just won a vacation, The answer is ROLL 'EM. To the New Movie Script called " The Shango" soon to be release in teathers near you.

CAPS:

Was Columbo "opening a window overlooking babylon?"

[vms]

I can't get past thinking in terms of search engine operators.

Only use the AND operator to match truths?

Ah, I give up. Can you use any example from this case to illustrate, Caps?

[Lala'sMom]

WOW CAPS I understood almost so this was why now I'm worried because NO ONE but Natalee would know for sure if she was a virgin.
We only know what we have heard and believe.
This could chage the outcome. So we need facts only for this to work 
.

That why shango say:

20.   Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm ***** NAT STORY ******
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

We need to save those fact which we know that are TRUE. and remember to use the AND logic to build the Logic Three

Truth A (AND) Truth B links to Truth C, Then Truth A (AND) Truth C must be True. This way a Logic of three is build to break the Alibi that we knows that are lies.

But the above quote is by Simian...not Shango. 

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks VMS MUM and LALA'S for the replies to My post! Could Julia have been the code talker Christy White? HMMMMM 

Shock was too intelligent to be that imbecile. 

J/K, hotping. I really don't have a clue...

I thought Caps said Shock was Karen Jansen?  Darn it!  Confused again. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

WOW CAPS I understood almost so this was why now I'm worried because NO ONE but Natalee would know for sure if she was a virgin.
We only know what we have heard and believe.
This could chage the outcome. So we need facts only for this to work 
.

That why shango say:

20.   Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm ***** NAT STORY ******
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

We need to save those fact which we know that are TRUE. and remember to use the AND logic to build the Logic Three

Truth A (AND) Truth B links to Truth C, Then Truth A (AND) Truth C must be True. This way a Logic of three is build to break the Alibi that we knows that are lies.

But the above quote is by Simian...not Shango. 

Thanks for this...I was going to respond that it wasn't Shango.   

[SS]

Don't know that answer...Klaas may know. Hotping. 

WTH? is Boolean Logic?   Yep...I am stupid...Julia was right...OMG!  I need to lie down.

don't feel bad... I have no clue what's going on in this thread.... so I just follow along....LOL

Rob, I'm following along with you and just as confused.  I've been gone all day and I have no clue what is going on.   

CAPS - A few pages back you asked about Julia's lover.  Could it be Michael Posner?
Where does Chemaly fit into the movie script?

Somewhere I read that A.B./E.B. who was arrested was 20 years old, if that helps.

[CapsLockWizard]

WOW CAPS I understood almost so this was why now I'm worried because NO ONE but Natalee would know for sure if she was a virgin.
We only know what we have heard and believe.
This could chage the outcome. So we need facts only for this to work 
.

That why shango say:

20.   Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm ***** NAT STORY ******
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

We need to save those fact which we know that are TRUE. and remember to use the AND logic to build the Logic Three

Truth A (AND) Truth B links to Truth C, Then Truth A (AND) Truth C must be True. This way a Logic of three is build to break the Alibi that we knows that are lies.

But the above quote is by Simian...not Shango. 

That is true, it belongs to simian, but it is written in Shango, which is what we are working on, Maybe Shango asked
Simian permision to use it. or it was left from the persons that collect the Shango post.

[SS]

I think that the right brained thinkers are getting a Boolean headache.

[SS]

The Following is in, Hot News,

The hit and run case of Hendrick Croes, took another run, the person that was hit did an investigation and find the documents that the OM have created fals statement so that Hendrick Croes could travel. The people that were used were fabricated against this cop but somehow, The I-A did this time check for the issues of corruption in the OM...

More to come...The strings are being pulled, Got to go to feed the stomach.

Movie script should be ready by friday if we continue on this peace.


CAPS

CAPS,

Even if we do break the code by Friday and we have the Simian/Shango feature film, how will we know if it's a non-fiction documentary?

[Finbar]

I love what you all have done with the new place.

Lotsa space.


Fin

[CapsLockWizard]

The Following is in, Hot News,

The hit and run case of Hendrick Croes, took another run, the person that was hit did an investigation and find the documents that the OM have created fals statement so that Hendrick Croes could travel. The people that were used were fabricated against this cop but somehow, The I-A did this time check for the issues of corruption in the OM...

More to come...The strings are being pulled, Got to go to feed the stomach.

Movie script should be ready by friday if we continue on this peace.


CAPS

CAPS,

Even if we do break the code by Friday and we have the Simian/Shango feature film, how will we know if it's a non-fiction documentary?

Like any Scientific Documentary report, we need to do a referance to the keys and what it ment and how we came about it.
It was not just trown on a table, there was a reseach done by many that contributed to the foundation of a particular key. All key will be revisted and recheck to see it what we have is something else that they have said. ower job is to break the Alibi with proof and logic. 

Like any riddle there are allways a What I call the START Key that when all filled in will show a layer only to that Key, but it also show links to other keys and so. The story has a meaning, the story will lead to areas that we did do not explored before and here is where the monkeys comes in helping to find all about that unknown subject or area.


There is a plan...

[Chata]

Like any Scientific Documentary report, we need to do a referance to the keys and what it ment and how we came about it.
It was not just trown on a table, there was a reseach done by many that contributed to the foundation of a particular key. All key will be revisted and recheck to see it what we have is something else that they have said. ower job is to break the Alibi with proof and logic. 

Like any riddle there are allways a What I call the START Key that when all filled in will show a layer only to that Key, but it also show links to other keys and so. The story has a meaning, the story will lead to areas that we did do not explored before and here is where the monkeys comes in helping to find all about that unknown subject or area.


There is a plan...
[/quote]

Caps,

So what you are saying is that many monkeys had parts of the puzzle, but because the keys were not known the pieces could not be fitted together into a whole???
I think I get it. 

Also, when the puzzle is sorted out, that will lead to other things being revealed???

Thanks for helping to clarify.

Chata

[klaasend]

Jackb asked me to post this for Capslock, not sure why 

[finngirl]

Jackb asked me to post this for Capslock, not sure why 

I see a dirtyhand in that picture. he is at the left in the back.

Minister Briezen --->Lowenstein group link

Wasn't it Briezen in the pics a while back on the NAH thread a while back...big white house with pillars and a pool, North Koreans and young girls?

[MumInOhio]

 Oduber was in Fort Lauderdale for an Organization of American States summit.  He met with Condy Rice on June 6th. Arrived back in Aruba the morning of June 9th. June 4th until June 7th.  See link below

http://www.oas.org/xxxvga/english/photo_previous.asp


I don’t know if he was at the one in Washington and I am not sure if I can read it all tonight.

http://www.oas.org/OASpage/eng/photos/default.asp?nMes=5&nAnio=2005

Rudy Croes arrived back from Holland on June 3rd.  Thought you might want to know….LOL

Checked the second link and sent it to Lala’s who checked the pics and we can’t see any sign of Oduber.

The dates in May seem to be regular meetings and not a summit as the one in Fort Lauderdale in June was. I searched a bit on it, and if anyone else would like to double check, please go ahead.

This means that Oduber would have been in Aruba until he left for the Florida Summit which started June 5th.

Loesge could be right….

[MumInOhio]

Jackb asked me to post this for Capslock, not sure why 

I see a dirtyhand in that picture. he is at the left in the back.

Minister Briezen --->Lowenstein group link

Wasn't it Briezen in the pics a while back on the NAH thread a while back...big white house with pillars and a pool, North Koreans and young girls?

Appears to be a young guy walking with him....hmmmm... ?.B.

[MumInOhio]

Where was Michael Posner on May 29th. 2005?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/

However, through his attorney Posner states that he has been clean for quite some time and that he was not in Aruba at the time of the disappearance. Posner also claims he does not know Van der Sloot or ever giving him credit.

Casino boss Michael Posner denies that he knows van der Sloot and denies ever extending him casino credit. Posner’s lawyer Allan Ackerman says Posner was in Chicago when Holloway vanished and returned to Aruba the day after.

More on Posner here…

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/09/20/rita-cosby-discusses-deepak-and-michael-posner/

Allan Ackerman…Posner’s lawyer

http://www.superlawyers.com/illinois/lawyer/Allan-A-Ackerman/48717f27-1630-4bbd-a8ff-2f9d57bbf435.html

PROFILE
Nationally recognized and respected for innovative and ingenious defense strategies, Allan Ackerman practices almost exclusively in the area of criminal defense, both at the trial and appellate levels. As a trial lawyer, he has successfully defended some of the country's most problematic cases, including major racketeering (RICO), drug and white collar prosecutions. As an appellate advocate, he has successfully briefed and/or argued countless cases before the United States Supreme Court and most federal appellate courts. Deemed an expert on the presentation of federal and state constitutional issues as they relate to an accused, his work is the subject of study in law schools throughout the nation and has been covered by both the local and national media.

A little here…

http://www.lawyers.com/Illinois/Chicago/Allan-A.-Ackerman,-P.C.-910094-f.html

http://www.lawyers.com/allanaackerman/jsp2192427.jsp

[jackb]

Caps I was told this is Julia's Hubby

Who else in Julia Organization is a Photographer...A movie was made that night in question. She was there she also was part in the xxx movie. Now hwo else in her organization was there.

I wonder if hubby was there, maybe the hubby is just a front.

CAPS:  I sent Klaas a picture and asked her to send you a copy that I cut out and resized on the background of Julies side.  It shows pretty darn clear GVC and he seems to be punching something.  There is a guy very close beside him in a white shirt and When and if I get this picture clear in the rest of the background, there may be some other interesting things.  Jack Blue April 3, 2008

[MumInOhio]

SS…just some thoughts on breaking the code…I hope you don’t mind.

The little I know about Shango, Simian and Mirian and all the other codetalkers tells me it is very hard to follow the right path. Fork in the path…which one to follow?

An example would be the Lions!…Which is it…Cap’s Lowenstein Group, the flag, the Coat of Arms or the Lion’s Club. Or maybe the Lion’s den is the casinos, so then who would be the lions?

Whichever one of the ‘lions’ paths you follow will probably lead you in a different direction. Which is the right path?

COLUMBO has his ‘path’ he has followed, Caps has his, and I know, well I,m pretty sure, Lala’s has hers. Truthseeker as well, I think. So have many of other veteran Monkeys. (Sorry not meaning to slight anyone here)

Proceed with caution, one wrong turn and there is a good chance one has reached the wrong conclusion. JMO...

[MumInOhio]

From caesu...on the NAH thread...who has been checking on Rudy and Hendrik Croes...Thanks caesu...I'm trying to put him in Aruba...LOL

« Reply #704 on: Today at 06:45:14 AM »
caesu...any more on Rudy or Hendrik Croes...I am looking for something that puts Rudy in the Netherlands the end of May to June 3rd 2005.  TIA


i am still trying to find as much as possible on the Croes brothers.

did a quick search but could not locate him in the netherlands in that period.

then procureur-generaal Theresa Croes-Fernandes was however in the netherlands around that period.

end of june there was the half yearly tripartite summit between the three justice ministers, but this was in willemstad, curaçao.