SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[Blonde]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

[Lala'sMom]

Are we trying to determine Oduber's whereabouts on the night in question?  Just wondering why all the stuff about him being in USA which has been known for a while.  I think I am mixed up on the reasoning here...somebody please explain. TIA

Morning monkeys.

[vms]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

Not bad Blonde, IMO. I know I have done the same thing many times.


Mum,

Blonde has so much material saved, it is unreal. If you need something from the past, Blonde can usually find it for you.

[CapsLockWizard]

Question to all:

From the Group of girls who left Aruba before the trip ended.

With who did beth flow down to aruba in the Airplane?

Need names

[Lala'sMom]

Question to all:

From the Group of girls who left Aruba before the trip ended.

With who did beth flow down to aruba in the Airplane?

Need names

I don't have that info at this time...maybe someone else will remember. Morning.

[MumInOhio]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

Blonde…I think I have had too much coffee…LOL

What I have been trying to work out is how the name Arends became attached to Freddy Zedan Arambatzis.(Will call him Zedan as not to confuse with the other A’s…LOL)

We know about Max Arends, Joran’s friend and Max Arendz, Lorenzo’s friend. In August when Freddy Zedan was arrested, somehow the name Arends came out first. It’s possible that it surfaced because it was mentioned back in June with young Max, Joran’s friend, on the 17th. Possibly somebody recalled it from then.

There is in fact a Frederick Arends, address 7A Catiri, who works with computers. Coincidently Freddy Zedan’s address for his apartment has been posted as 7A Catiri. It was also posted that Freddy Zedan was a computer whiz.

So is this just a simple mistake, two people morphed into one, again, or is there possibly an Arends connection to Freddy Zedan?

Confused?…LOL

Thanks vms...maybe Blonde can help...if she can understand my post...LOL

Good Morning all!

[vms]

Question to all:

From the Group of girls who left Aruba before the trip ended.

With who did beth flow down to aruba in the Airplane?

Need names

Beth, Jug, Jodi Bearman, Mat Whatley, and Ruffner Page were on the plane, IIRC.

[texasmom]

Question to all:

From the Group of girls who left Aruba before the trip ended.

With who did beth flow down to aruba in the Airplane?

Need names

Caps,
I was re-reading portions of Beth's book last night.  The people that she said went with her were Jug, Jodi (planned trip & her daughter had also been on the trip), Matt (whose daughter had been on the trip) and G. Ruffner Page (Virginia's father).  I don't think any of the girls actually traveled with her.  I don't have the book with me, but I think the above were the only ones she said went with her. 

[jackb]

Quote jackb: « Reply #704 on: April 01, 2008, 08:45:03 PM »

ALSO:  This is IMPORTANT.  I goofed, it was not Chemaly (interior minister) as I had Chemaly of the brain.  It was:

Interior Minister Johan Remkes was called upon by Rudy Croes to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation in August of last year. Official Remkes is the individual who recommended Paulus van der Sloot be appointed to the bench of the Joint Court.


Thank You jackb for posting this. So Rudy appointed this guy, who in turn appointed Paulus. And Rudy also appointed the Police Commissioners, some with obviously no qualifications.

I wonder if he was really in Holland and returned on June 3rd. Just because Aruban press said so, doesn't make it so.

Great candidate for Arawak Dirty Hand along with his brother Hendrick!

No, Rudy did NOT appoint Remkes.  Rudy would have had to request his help.  Rudy is not in a position to appoint (then) Remkes.  The Ministry is called the "mother" of all departments as they oversee so many different agencies in the Antilles and NL.  Rudy did, however call upon Remkes to send the NL help it seems and Remkes is the one who is the one who is supposed to have recommended PVS to his job.

I wonder if Joran's name has been changed from Johan?  Makes me wonder if he was named after this minister.   j/b

[vms]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

Blonde…I think I have had too much coffee…LOL

What I have been trying to work out is how the name Arends became attached to Freddy Zedan Arambatzis.(Will call him Zedan as not to confuse with the other A’s…LOL)

We know about Max Arends, Joran’s friend and Max Arendz, Lorenzo’s friend. In August when Freddy Zedan was arrested, somehow the name Arends came out first. It’s possible that it surfaced because it was mentioned back in June with young Max, Joran’s friend, on the 17th. Possibly somebody recalled it from then.

There is in fact a Frederick Arends, address 7A Catiri, who works with computers. Coincidently Freddy Zedan’s address for his apartment has been posted as 7A Catiri. It was also posted that Freddy Zedan was a computer whiz.

So is this just a simple mistake, two people morphed into one, again, or is there possibly an Arends connection to Freddy Zedan?

Confused?…LOL

Thanks vms...maybe Blonde can help...if she can understand my post...LOL

Good Morning all!

It was a mistake but that's JMO...

[CapsLockWizard]

Good moring all, been up whole night,

Another question:

From all the Casino's enterprises in Aruba, Who own more than one or operate more than one in Aruba?

The casino must have a link into USA. either via its operations or via the owners.

look at the AHATA's and see who operated or owns a Casino or is link to some one that has Casino.

[MumInOhio]

Are we trying to determine Oduber's whereabouts on the night in question?  Just wondering why all the stuff about him being in USA which has been known for a while.  I think I am mixed up on the reasoning here...somebody please explain. TIA

Morning monkeys.

Lala's...I finally found the link to the OAS Florida summit the other day and also the one from I think May 23rd or so that was in Washington DC.
The Florida summit was from June 5-7 and he returned the morning of June 9th.

I need to go through the link of the DC summit and make sure he was there. I am trying to make sure that he was not in Aruba on May 29/30th.

Does that help?...LOL

[MumInOhio]

Quote jackb: « Reply #704 on: April 01, 2008, 08:45:03 PM »

ALSO:  This is IMPORTANT.  I goofed, it was not Chemaly (interior minister) as I had Chemaly of the brain.  It was:

Interior Minister Johan Remkes was called upon by Rudy Croes to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation in August of last year. Official Remkes is the individual who recommended Paulus van der Sloot be appointed to the bench of the Joint Court.


Thank You jackb for posting this. So Rudy appointed this guy, who in turn appointed Paulus. And Rudy also appointed the Police Commissioners, some with obviously no qualifications.

I wonder if he was really in Holland and returned on June 3rd. Just because Aruban press said so, doesn't make it so.

Great candidate for Arawak Dirty Hand along with his brother Hendrick!

No, Rudy did NOT appoint Remkes.  Rudy would have had to request his help.  Rudy is not in a position to appoint (then) Remkes.  The Ministry is called the "mother" of all departments as they oversee so many different agencies in the Antilles and NL.  Rudy did, however call upon Remkes to send the NL help it seems and Remkes is the one who is the one who is supposed to have recommended PVS to his job.

I wonder if Joran's name has been changed from Johan?  Makes me wonder if he was named after this minister.   j/b

Thanks jackb for clearing that up...now I am bad....Do you perhaps have some links on that or idea where you found the information?   TIA

[klaasend]

I've locked the other Codetalker reference threads.  Let me know if we need to add to them and I will.

[MumInOhio]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

Blonde…I think I have had too much coffee…LOL

What I have been trying to work out is how the name Arends became attached to Freddy Zedan Arambatzis.(Will call him Zedan as not to confuse with the other A’s…LOL)

We know about Max Arends, Joran’s friend and Max Arendz, Lorenzo’s friend. In August when Freddy Zedan was arrested, somehow the name Arends came out first. It’s possible that it surfaced because it was mentioned back in June with young Max, Joran’s friend, on the 17th. Possibly somebody recalled it from then.

There is in fact a Frederick Arends, address 7A Catiri, who works with computers. Coincidently Freddy Zedan’s address for his apartment has been posted as 7A Catiri. It was also posted that Freddy Zedan was a computer whiz.

So is this just a simple mistake, two people morphed into one, again, or is there possibly an Arends connection to Freddy Zedan?

Confused?…LOL

Thanks vms...maybe Blonde can help...if she can understand my post...LOL

Good Morning all!

It was a mistake but that's JMO...

Thanks vms...I know you felt that when I asked about the address on the old thread. I can see it happening.

Just keeps gnawing away at me...LOL...along with the fact that Freddy was released secretly in September. And Ernesto being so quiet. I am wondering about Freddy being the 'protected witness'?

[Lala'sMom]

Are we trying to determine Oduber's whereabouts on the night in question?  Just wondering why all the stuff about him being in USA which has been known for a while.  I think I am mixed up on the reasoning here...somebody please explain. TIA

Morning monkeys.

Lala's...I finally found the link to the OAS Florida summit the other day and also the one from I think May 23rd or so that was in Washington DC.
The Florida summit was from June 5-7 and he returned the morning of June 9th.

I need to go through the link of the DC summit and make sure he was there. I am trying to make sure that he was not in Aruba on May 29/30th.

Does that help?...LOL

Yes, thank you.  I was trying to fit the Loesge posts into his being gone during that time and I could not.  As I understand it, Colombo believes there is something to those posts.  I guess I was just over thinking it all.

[Lala'sMom]

I've locked the other Codetalker reference threads.  Let me know if we need to add to them and I will.

I suppose that makes them just reference material now.  That was a good idea.  Did you know that yellow hard hats down here in the South used to mean you worked for the power company?  I think now,they wear white ones, but it really did at one time.   

[vms]

Sorry Mum, sometimes I post before reading all posts and before coffee, bad Blonde

Blonde…I think I have had too much coffee…LOL

What I have been trying to work out is how the name Arends became attached to Freddy Zedan Arambatzis.(Will call him Zedan as not to confuse with the other A’s…LOL)

We know about Max Arends, Joran’s friend and Max Arendz, Lorenzo’s friend. In August when Freddy Zedan was arrested, somehow the name Arends came out first. It’s possible that it surfaced because it was mentioned back in June with young Max, Joran’s friend, on the 17th. Possibly somebody recalled it from then.

There is in fact a Frederick Arends, address 7A Catiri, who works with computers. Coincidently Freddy Zedan’s address for his apartment has been posted as 7A Catiri. It was also posted that Freddy Zedan was a computer whiz.

So is this just a simple mistake, two people morphed into one, again, or is there possibly an Arends connection to Freddy Zedan?

Confused?…LOL

Thanks vms...maybe Blonde can help...if she can understand my post...LOL

Good Morning all!

It was a mistake but that's JMO...

Thanks vms...I know you felt that when I asked about the address on the old thread. I can see it happening.

Just keeps gnawing away at me...LOL...along with the fact that Freddy was released secretly in September. And Ernesto being so quiet. I am wondering about Freddy being the 'protected witness'?

Oops. Didn't realize I had already stated my opinion on that.  Sorry. Nothing like someone trying to push their own opinions over and over. 

It was just SO hard to muddle through all the info when it was happening...

[Lala'sMom]

Why couldn't Freddy have two addresses?  Would you not have different addresses if you owned more than one home or apartment or used one for business purposes?  If I am not mistaken, Kermit supplied that information and even though he's a sly green frog he is usually quite spot on with his information.  I wonder where he's been lately? 

[Rob]

Julia clearly with her camera