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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
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Quote from: Rob on April 05, 2008, 07:24:33 PM
Guy in the pic on the left does not look like GVC to me. Do you think it is him? The guy on the left has a very pointed nose, and a slightly receding chin, neither of which seem apparent on GVC.
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Capslock
- I'd like to hear more about Daury being detained/arrested in the US for drugs. Is Daury Rodriguez his real name?
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jackb wrote;
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He is there on your right Blonde. If you cannot see him, then Klaas has a pic where you can see him. Also I have one at home where it is even better. There is a ceremony there. There is a lot you can see if you look in the right direction. jackb
I didn't want to repost the pic, but in that blown up photo of renfro and male there is nothing clearly visible on the right that resembles GVC...not just my opinion but the truth.
Do you have anything clearer so we can tell if he is really there?
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I think I have missed the point of the photos.
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Quote from: bleachedblack on April 05, 2008, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Rob on April 05, 2008, 07:24:33 PM
Guy in the pic on the left does not look like GVC to me. Do you think it is him? The guy on the left has a very pointed nose, and a slightly receding chin, neither of which seem apparent on GVC.
Does not look like GVC to me either:
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Rob, Do you remember which patch you used. I'm still working on it. Norton didn't pick up anything.
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Quote from: SS on April 05, 2008, 09:31:25 PM
Rob, Do you remember which patch you used. I'm still working on it. Norton didn't pick up anything.
I'm sorry SS I don't recall. Maybe just try typing into a Microsoft web page what you are experiencing and it will probably find related cases quite easily.
It happened to me about 18 months ago. There is a remedy I think.
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 05, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
Hi Monkeys CSI,
Daury or was it Duery or what every his name was, Has been detain in the USA with herion transportation....
The on that Joran mention... The one that say he was in holland. He is now in the costudy in the USA.
News was wispert in CAPS ears.. it is still in the development.
caps are you talking about the dude who said he was barely acquainted with Jvs
and he had not seen him except one he gambled with him while he was on vacation and was talking law suit. When did he get busted? Jackb
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Sorry - O/T
anyhoo
SS,
I have a few links for you and some remedies.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321505
I'm certain it was the .dbx file
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=958431&SiteID=17
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 05, 2008, 10:55:44 AM
SS…
This is what I thought of this morning… It was at this link:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1097.0
"G" seems to be some guy from Amsterdam who was there on a vacation, and he also was in the casino that night. Natalee was constantly calling on a cell phone in the casino....
Just a thought
, but we have a Theory and Speculations thread, is you want to try and sort through this, we could take it there and see what we can come up with! I probably won’t be able to do much until next week, though.
caps do you have your own blog or website somewhere? I will probably not be on this one too much longer as there are a couple on here that are trying to get me pizzed off so they can ban me. If I go and you need me for something. I can be reached at
Bluebear@rjia.net
I will not take any guff, Duth guff or otherwise. Jack blue
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I'm still working on my problem, but I wanted to give my favorite monkeys a present.
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Thanks SS!! Now, I am wondering if this is the Daury that Caps said is in the USA now under arrest? This could get interesting. Wonder what law enforcement organization arrested him and where and when? Well, it would have to have been in the last month or so, I guess, but where? Don't anyone say Florida...that seems to be the favorite place for Aruba's finest to migrate toward.
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Jackb...sweetie...let go of your ego...and learn to *meld*...
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Quote from: Destiny on April 06, 2008, 01:34:39 AM
Jackb...sweetie...let go of your ego...and learn to *meld*...
Destiny
Sweet Destiny it is not me I am trying to be smart-azzed about, but some of the things I have could be hurtful to the family if I posted them in that I pick up on some things and bring them into focus that does not need to be "out" just yet. By me minimizing the people I give the pics to,(the ones have and have worked out other scenes) the less chance for this to cause problems or pain. I cannot take a chance of posting one pic on here or on the photobucket as whomever is covering up scenes with other picture scenes is really good at computers and could hack into shared information. If some of those people are of a mind to, they could hire someone else who could if they cannot not. So what I do is put what I work on on outside disk and do not even have access to it most of the time unless I am in one place long enough and need it. That sounds strange I know, but until now I have not mentioned this, but it seems some think I am trying to be a tight azz about anything I have. No, not so. Others think I am thinking I am special, No, but the pictures are and until I see some answers, things will just have to stay the way they are, but I will never send another one to the admin for on here or to keep and pass on. American's have about lost the country smoozing up to foreigners at the expense of their own. I have seen this happen time and again on blogs. People who want to help, fine, but to get on here and think they are so "needed" they can cause other bloggers problems is just par for the corps of many people. I say: Smooze and lose. I need no audience, was just trying to figure some things out. It seems you, Destiny and Lala's mom, and a few more who have been interested in this what could be evidence I have in a positive way. I appreciate that. I am not interested in my own pet theories, but what I have learned and seen, I cannot disbelieve. It is simply a coverup and maybe in time it will be prosecuted. I have done what I can do without exposing things that no one has even had the decency to thank me for or to let me know what they have done with them. I would have quit and gone through a direct route a long time ago, to the family's investigators, but it seems they are learned in other fields than computer or should I say forensic graphics. Thanks though. I can be reached by sending email to
bluebear@rjia.net
. Also right now I am out of town and accessing through a lap top, not sure when I will be checking that e-mail add., I will not do it from here on this computer. Will not be long before I get pizzed off and am off here. I do not smooze. Jack
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Daury Rodriguez....
An article about Daury
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/story?id=4239135&page=1
Party Peeps
http://www.partypeeps2000.com/members/DRzzz.aspx
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Quote from: katrien on April 06, 2008, 04:21:01 AM
http://misdaad.aktueel.nu/doorbraak_in_zaak_holloway.html
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MISDAAD.AKTUEEL.NU
Nieuws vanaf Aruba. Ik doel daarbij niet op het gezinsdrama in Santa Cruz waarbij een drugsverslaafde zijn ouders en broer ombracht, maar op de zaak Natalee Holloway.
Alle hoop van het team dat de bekentenissen van Joran van der Sloot onderzoekt is gevestigd op een spoortje dat leidt naar een man, die wegens een drugsdelict vastzit in de Verenigde Staten. De politie heeft aanwijzingen dat hij wellicht de persoon is die het bootje heeft gevaren waarmee Natalee naar open zee is gebracht. De komende tijd moet duidelijk worden of het een heet spoor is of een dwaalspoor. Maar uit het feit dat het gaat om een zogeheten embargo-onderzoek (onderzoek dat nauwlettend wordt afgeschermd, ook voor collega-politiemensen) kan worden opgemaakt dat de informatie behoorlijk serieus wordt genomen. Zou de “Daury” dan toch bestaan?
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Breakthrough in Holloway Case?
News from Aruba. I don’t mean the family tragedy in Santa Crux were a drugs addict killed his parents and brother, but I mean the Holloway case.
The team of detectives, investigating the confessions of Joran v.d. Sloot, is tracing a man being lockup in the USA for a drugs crime. The police have indications he might be the one driving the little boat taking Natalee to the open sea. In the coming days it has to become clear weather this is a hot track or a wrong track.
But from the fact it the track is treated as a so called “embargo-investigation” (an investigation carefully separated, even for colleague police-officers), the conclusion could be taken that this information is rather serious.
Is it possible that after all this Daury really exists?
Katrien posted this over in the NH thread; I brought it over for those who might stop in here first.
THANKS KATRIEN!!!! THANKS CAPS!!!!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: SS on April 06, 2008, 12:24:18 AM
I'm still working on my problem, but I wanted to give my favorite monkeys a present.
If this is true that this is "the" one...and if it is true that drug trafficking is somehow involved here then perhaps the DEA/FBI investigative files and long arm can make a nexus between her death and drug trafficking thus enabling extradition of anyone they deem major suspects...
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Quote from: klaasend on April 05, 2008, 07:36:59 PM
Capslock
- I'd like to hear more about Daury being detained/arrested in the US for drugs. Is Daury Rodriguez his real name?
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/heroin_index.html
I will check these out today. If it was a major bust...it might be newsworthy.
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http://www.dea.gov/pubs/news_releases.htm
good places to look here...at the right side of page.
Best to check out anything 'Cocaine' too. I just looked a bit into the Heroine link...didn't find anything interesting.
Anywhoooo...DEA is a place to start.
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Good Morning Jack,
If I could simply offer my opinion I would appreciate it. Thank you.
In previous conversations with Dave Holloway, I have tried to use as much decorum as possible. After-all, it is his daughter we are all talking about. She is not internet fodder for people with nothing better to do than harass a grieving family and the nut-jobs of the world to use as a vehicle to vent their worldly frustrations.
Dave has told me that nothing can hurt him any more than what has already happened. Nothing. It's just better to say what you will and the family will not be offended. They want the answers no matter what those answers really are. I have heard probably more rumors about Natalee than anyone other than Red and Klaas. And for the most part they are nothing more than rumors.
If you have a photo or information, I suggest you take it directly to Mr Holloway. There are many here that have Dave's email address and would gladly put you in touch, if you do not have his email address, and if you really have something that will help this family get the answers they seek. I don't think anyone here wants to be a hero and would gladly give what they have or know. I might suggest you consider doing the same.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to voice my opinion.
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