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« Reply #1440 on: April 07, 2008, 12:04:34 AM »

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Is 7A Catiri near the Racquet Club, please?

Steakhouse...Which one….Who…Joran or Paulus?

Bigwig….Zeolla?…deVeer?…..or Bill Jr????

TIA


Need phots of all 3

then will compare.
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« Reply #1441 on: April 07, 2008, 12:06:18 AM »

THe person that provided the escord when the 2 shivas left are the black team, Rudy croes children are working for the black team and they where there, they new the girl,

The Young Babylonians are the sons of Rudy Croes.

100% shure... need name. or will skip check with other source.

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Now, who did you tell us the shivas were?  How many kids does Rudy have? 

2 contract killers
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« Reply #1442 on: April 07, 2008, 12:06:47 AM »

there was a prty but the party was a Casino Party, Big Shots, Big Weel,

The part goe-ers are not the kids but BUT the BIG GUNS...at the palace

How can you pinch big guns if it they are shielded from RC.

there is a way...but after we solve this.

The 5th suspect was at his house....Simian says so...it was a small party...AT HIS HOUSE.

I give up!!   
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« Reply #1443 on: April 07, 2008, 12:11:02 AM »

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You said that Joran was eating at a steakhouse with some big wig...who were you talking about?  I want to know the answer to that too.  What was happening while he was eating?   Please don't make me bang my head any longer against that wall...that is what Colombo is supposed to do..not me. LOL
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« Reply #1444 on: April 07, 2008, 12:11:40 AM »

there was a prty but the party was a Casino Party, Big Shots, Big Weel,

The part goe-ers are not the kids but BUT the BIG GUNS...at the palace

How can you pinch big guns if it they are shielded from RC.

there is a way...but after we solve this.

The 5th suspect was at his house....Simian says so...it was a small party...AT HIS HOUSE.

I give up!!   
lala the hotel do not have a casino like th others but it is there...which floor and room?
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« Reply #1445 on: April 07, 2008, 12:13:13 AM »

there was a prty but the party was a Casino Party, Big Shots, Big Weel,

The part goe-ers are not the kids but BUT the BIG GUNS...at the palace

How can you pinch big guns if it they are shielded from RC.

there is a way...but after we solve this.

The 5th suspect was at his house....Simian says so...it was a small party...AT HIS HOUSE.

I give up!!   
lala the hotel do not have a casino like th others but it is there...which floor and room?

Maybe simian drop the T like THIS
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« Reply #1446 on: April 07, 2008, 12:15:55 AM »

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You said that Joran was eating at a steakhouse with some big wig...who were you talking about?  I want to know the answer to that too.  What was happening while he was eating?   Please don't make me bang my head any longer against that wall...that is what Colombo is supposed to do..not me. LOL

Read what  said.. Joran was not there. the rest of the famaly Yes, El Gaucho Rest. need photo of the 3 names you mention
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« Reply #1447 on: April 07, 2008, 12:21:43 AM »

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You said that Joran was eating at a steakhouse with some big wig...who were you talking about?  I want to know the answer to that too.  What was happening while he was eating?   Please don't make me bang my head any longer against that wall...that is what Colombo is supposed to do..not me. LOL

Read what  said.. Joran was not there. the rest of the famaly Yes, El Gaucho Rest. need photo of the 3 names you mention

I can't find your post right now, but were you saying Joran was eating steak or the rest of the family was eating steak?  When was this?  The night in question?   I must be hallucinating now...it's because of my head hurts. 
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« Reply #1448 on: April 07, 2008, 12:28:23 AM »

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....


I said Joran was not there..
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« Reply #1449 on: April 07, 2008, 12:30:47 AM »

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....


I said Joran was not there..


Thanks!  I thought you meant that Paulus, Anita and kids were there and not Joran...but it seemed to confuse some of us...now was this the night that Natalee disappeared?  Do you know?  I am getting hungry for a steak now...LOL
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« Reply #1450 on: April 07, 2008, 12:33:27 AM »

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You said that Joran was eating at a steakhouse with some big wig...who were you talking about?  I want to know the answer to that too.  What was happening while he was eating?   Please don't make me bang my head any longer against that wall...that is what Colombo is supposed to do..not me. LOL

Read what  said.. Joran was not there. the rest of the famaly Yes, El Gaucho Rest. need photo of the 3 names you mention

I can't find your post right now, but were you saying Joran was eating steak or the rest of the family was eating steak?  When was this?  The night in question?   I must be hallucinating now...it's because of my head hurts. 


No No, This was 2 weeks ago. Waiter knows him and waiter know the man. He give me names but doe not remember the name but if picture I will ask him to make sure it matches the name.
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« Reply #1451 on: April 07, 2008, 12:37:20 AM »

Why was they there, I do not know but source say it was some sort of meeting. sitting all the way in the back. Source say also that he Stinks becuase he does not uses Deoderant or does not like to take a bath... fetith smell like onios

LOL this is true....

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« Reply #1452 on: April 07, 2008, 12:39:53 AM »

I tried to gather some information on Steve Croes.  There is nothing.  No mention of his family or the ex-wife.  There is speculation that he is also the person who snatched Amy Bradley and our FBI was never allowed near him - I wonder why?    This guy is a real dirtbag and someone has twice really protected him.

CAPS and Finbar - we need some facts about Steve Croes.


They denied a relationshiop to Marianne Croes.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- Authorities probing the disappearance of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway arrested the DJ of a popular party boat Friday morning and searched his home.

A prosecutor's spokeswoman, Mariaine Croes, in keeping with Aruban law, identified him only by his initials, S.G.C. She said he was born July 21, 1978.

CNN spoke with his next-door neighbor, who identified himself as Rufo Solognier. He identified the person arrested as his nephew Steve Croes and described him as a quiet, divorced father of a 2-year-old son.

The prosecutor's office said there is no relationship between its spokeswoman and the suspect, and that the name "Croes" in Aruba is about as common as "Smith" in the United States.

Solognier said he did not know of any connection between Croes and the three others in custody.

Croes' boss on the Tattoo cruise ship, Marcus Williams, told CNN the boat generally does not go out on Sunday nights.

Even when the boat does go out on Sundays, it returns by midnight, Williams said.

The boat docks about 300 meters, or about 1,000 feet, from the Holiday Inn where Holloway was staying.

It was about 1:30 a.m. Monday May 30 that Holloway was last seen leaving the nightclub Carlos'N Charlie's with three young men, police said. (Full story)

Police commissioner Jan Van Der Straten said Croes' arrest came after he was named by one of the three suspects being held.

No charges have been filed against Joran Van Der Sloot, 17; Deepak Kalpoe, 21; and his brother, Satish Kalpoe, 18.

They were arrested June 9, and their attorneys say they maintain their innocence.

They are the three men seen with Holloway when she was leaving that nightclub, police said.

On Wednesday, authorities searched Van Der Sloot's home, seizing two cars and removing bagfuls of evidence.

Van Der Sloot's father is awaiting a ruling on his petition to see his son, which is required under Dutch law since Van Der Sloot is a minor. Aruba is part of the Netherlands.

Under Aruban law, prosecutors can ask judges to approve three eight-day extensions, followed by one 60-day extension and then one 30-day extension.

Suspects may be held up to 116 days -- and in rare cases even longer -- before formal charges are filed, said Croes, the prosecutor's spokeswoman.

Despite a massive search operation throughout the island, Aruban authorities have found no sign of Holloway.

"The frustration is unimaginable. It's unimaginable," said Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty.

"I have waited and I have waited and I have waited," she said.

"We don't even have one answer yet ... They have to find Natalee. They have to find our daughter."

CNN's Karl Penhaul contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/17/missing.teen/index.html


Two down, three to go
On Sunday Aruban authorities also indicated that they will release 26-year-old party boat disc jockey Steve Croes, the fifth suspect in this case.  It is unlikely that the other three suspects will be immediately released, but the 118-day detention clock is slowly ticking away on the Aruban authorities, and when the clock runs out they must make their case in trial or let the three go, and there will continue to be a mandatory review of their incarceration every eight days until they are tried or released. Evidently Croes, a friend of one or more of the Kalpoe brothers, voluntarily told authorities that he had witnessed Joran and the Kalpoes drop Holloway off at her hotel, thereby confirming their alibi, one later acknowledged by them as being a lie.  Because of Croes' false report he was arrested and held in custody.  Croes' arrest may have also been related to the authority's belief that he had access to a small boat that could, perhaps, have been used to transport Holloway somewhere on the waters surrounding Aruba.  Croes' release, like that of Paulus van der Sloot, is due to a similar finding by the local judge that there is not reasonable suspicion to support the belief that he was involved in Holloway's disappearance.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8376303/

Neither the ferry that took people out to the Tattoo or the Crew Launch are suitable for going on open ocean. The problem with the Launch is that it is underpowered, 15hp engine I believe. I suppose he could have access to another boat. Also, I think it has been established that while the Tattoo normally doesn't go out on Sunday night, there was a special charter and Croes was working. This figured in with his release because of the time frame as I recall. Also the Tattoo Ferry takes off from the De Palm Pier between the Raddison and the Aruba Grand, not the marina if front of the Marriott. This is about a mile plus south. It does sort of put him in the vicinity.
http://www.rjames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14080


The Uncle knows "nothing" about Steve? I think this says it all.

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VAN SUSTEREN: Have you talked to your nephew at all?

RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE: No, not for a week.

VAN SUSTEREN: What is your...

SOLOGNIER: My wife went to the courtroom this morning.

VAN SUSTEREN: Right. What did they say in court today?

SOLOGNIER: Nothing. Nothing. They can't say nothing. He can't speak to her.

VAN SUSTEREN: They won't let Steve Croes talk to his...

SOLOGNIER: No, nobody.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why not?

SOLOGNIER: I don't know. I have to ask the lawyer.

VAN SUSTEREN: Steve is not your son, he's your nephew, right?

SOLOGNIER: He's the nephew of my wife.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where is Steve's parents?

SOLOGNIER: In Curacao.

VAN SUSTEREN: And sorry, he lives next door with his grandmother?

SOLOGNIER: Grandmother, grandfather.

VAN SUSTEREN: With your wife's mother and father then?

SOLOGNIER: Yes, yes, yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And his grandparents. Any idea why they picked him up?

SOLOGNIER: I don't know. I can't even.

VAN SUSTEREN: Are they telling you anything at all?

SOLOGNIER: Nothing. I know nothing about Steve.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160562,00.html

Rumor has it that Steve Croes was seen taking Amy Bradley off the Cruise ship into Curacao by about 5 witnesses. By time FBI learned this information from the witnesses Steve Croes was already in Aruba. FBI went to Aruba to speak and question with Steve Croes. Aruba denied FBI or anyone to even question Steve Croes about Amy Bradley. Seems to me that Aruba is a safe haven for criminals and harbor them as well. Why not allow FBI speak with someone who was seen and identified as kidnapping a missing person off a Cruise ship and never to be seen again? Has nothing to do with Aruba, only that Steve Croes fled to Aruba after his crime. It's even out of Aruba's jurisdiction, they would not even cooperate with authorities at all. I hope that someone brings this to the attention of Interpol while in Aruba. May prove to be more than meets the eye with Steve Croes and Aruba. -AP-
http://bfnbackup.16.forumer.com/a/more-rumors_post9-45.html

PENHAUL: He`s a 26-year-old, originally born on Curacao, but he has lived on Aruba for many years now. He`s a recent divorcee. He`s the father of a 2-year-old son. He was living in the town of Santa Cruz. That`s a town in the center of the island near the national park. He was living at that house with his grandfather and his grandmother, living next door to his uncle. His uncle is a retired police chief inspector, Nancy.

GRACE: Karl, what if any connection is there between -- this is a grown man, he`s a 26-year-old divorced father -- and these three young guys who are partying hardy at Carlos and Charlie`s. What`s the connection?

PENHAUL: Police and prosecutors haven`t told us of any connection. But talking to Steven Croes` boss, Marcus Williams, he says that he believes that he knew one of the Kalpoe brothers through the Internet Cafe. Now, we know that Deepak, the eldest of the Kalpoe brothers, the 21-year- old, worked at the Cyberzone Internet Cafe. And it seems as it`s there where he knew Steve Croes, Nancy.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html

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« Reply #1453 on: April 07, 2008, 12:47:27 AM »

Why was they there, I do not know but source say it was some sort of meeting. sitting all the way in the back. Source say also that he Stinks becuase he does not uses Deoderant or does not like to take a bath... fetith smell like onios

LOL this is true....


I believe it!  Sweaty, stinky, running man!  And Anita loves it!  She stinks too in my opinion!
 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1454 on: April 07, 2008, 12:54:23 AM »

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....



I said Joran was not there..

Caps, could it have been Rick Zeolla?

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2003_3rd/Aug03_ArubaMarriott.html
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« Reply #1455 on: April 07, 2008, 12:55:02 AM »

Why was they there, I do not know but source say it was some sort of meeting. sitting all the way in the back. Source say also that he Stinks becuase he does not uses Deoderant or does not like to take a bath... fetith smell like onios

LOL this is true....


I believe it!  Sweaty, stinky, running man!  And Anita loves it!  She stinks too in my opinion!
 
TM...I was laughing so hard My hubby thought I had totally lost it....Caps You are sooo funny.....And I imagine PVS does smell worse than an onion.....
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« Reply #1456 on: April 07, 2008, 12:55:12 AM »

SS,
In the Amy Bradley disappearance, some of the crew of the ship she was on tried to get her to go to C & C's the night before she disappeared while the ship was docked in Aruba.  She told her brother and/or her parents about it, she didn't go because she didn't like the looks of those that wanted her to go.  She disappeared the night that the ship traveled from Aruba to Curacao.  I'm not sure that Steve wasn't already living in Aruba before.  I don't know for sure one way or the other, but I have read the reports of his possible involvement.  I read everything I could find about her case because we vacationed in Curacao in '99 IIRC
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1457 on: April 07, 2008, 12:56:45 AM »

Why was they there, I do not know but source say it was some sort of meeting. sitting all the way in the back. Source say also that he Stinks becuase he does not uses Deoderant or does not like to take a bath... fetith smell like onios

LOL this is true....


I believe it!  Sweaty, stinky, running man!  And Anita loves it!  She stinks too in my opinion!
 

That will be a nice project for 9:am got to go to fen the stomach..

Have research and decode a lot... till hiting the children of RC. they work for the black team.

now also check the children of PM if any.

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« Reply #1458 on: April 07, 2008, 01:00:05 AM »

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....



I said Joran was not there..

Caps, could it have been Rick Zeolla?

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2003_3rd/Aug03_ArubaMarriott.html


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« Reply #1459 on: April 07, 2008, 01:01:02 AM »

Why was they there, I do not know but source say it was some sort of meeting. sitting all the way in the back. Source say also that he Stinks becuase he does not uses Deoderant or does not like to take a bath... fetith smell like onios

LOL this is true....


I believe it!  Sweaty, stinky, running man!  And Anita loves it!  She stinks too in my opinion!
 
TM...I was laughing so hard My hubby thought I had totally lost it....Caps You are sooo funny.....And I imagine PVS does smell worse than an onion.....

Caps is funny, and Paulus and everything he touches is stinky! pewwweeeee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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