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« Reply #1800 on: April 10, 2008, 06:44:11 PM »

More trivia
Gold Bricks, an album by f***. (Sorry Klass but this is their real name)

f*** was formed in Oakland, California in 1993. The members met while stuck in a police holding cell over the weekend, and wrote a few songs while in jail.[1] They released a self-titled cassette, and a single, MonkeyBeautyShotgun on their own imprint, Rhesus Records, in 1994. (The songs from the cassette would eventually find their way onto later releases.[2]) They released their second full-length album Pretty...Slow in 1996. The album was ultimately released on three different labels. Their third album, Baby Loves a Funny Bunny, was also released in 1996.

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« Reply #1801 on: April 10, 2008, 07:00:34 PM »

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Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

That news(?) article that listed Joran and Freddy as tennis partners is from 2004. Maybe I am not understanding your post but it seems some are posting about that link as though it is new....so sorry if i misunderstood.
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« Reply #1802 on: April 10, 2008, 07:02:16 PM »



Date is in left upper corner on border
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« Reply #1803 on: April 10, 2008, 07:11:50 PM »



Date is in left upper corner on border

My point was to show the name Freddy was using before May, 2005.
I don't know what anyone else took from it. Question
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« Reply #1804 on: April 10, 2008, 07:13:02 PM »

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Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

That news(?) article that listed Joran and Freddy as tennis partners is from 2004. Maybe I am not understanding your post but it seems some are posting about that link as though it is new....so sorry if i misunderstood.
Thanks BB!  That's what I thought too, I went back and looked at the other results that were posted but they were from March 2008 and no mention of Freddy; I thought this article from September 28, 2004 was the only one I saw Freddy in.
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« Reply #1805 on: April 10, 2008, 10:15:13 PM »

I think we sometimes chase our tails in here and never take some things at face value.  I realize that can not always be done in this case, but there are several things ( I suppose you could call the facts) that were known to be true at the time and still are until proven otherwise. 

Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

And about the name Croes...I am certain there are many Croes on Aruba related to many others. Just as in my town there are numerous Smiths and Jones...but not all are best buds to each other or related except by distant cousins ten times removed.  There are people in several Croes families that have a common ancestor or even a common grandparent that are not friendly or even associate with the other side of the family. Sometimes you have to look past the name and see the other things too.  Why do I say this?  Because I have done my own research too...I don't just take things at face value.  So it remains...confusion and chaos in the Shango Forum....LOL!   Just another day at the office.  Rolling Eyes


Mom, You are so good!!  Were you able to at least establish that Steve is Hendrick, Jr.?
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« Reply #1806 on: April 10, 2008, 10:31:44 PM »

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Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

That news(?) article that listed Joran and Freddy as tennis partners is from 2004. Maybe I am not understanding your post but it seems some are posting about that link as though it is new....so sorry if i misunderstood.

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse...I meant that Freddy used the name he wished to go by which was ZEDAN.  I was talking about the name confusion when using the mother's maiden name.  Again, sorry for confusion...I think I needed to just not comment today...I have had another one of those days as Rob would say.
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« Reply #1807 on: April 10, 2008, 10:33:07 PM »

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Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

That news(?) article that listed Joran and Freddy as tennis partners is from 2004. Maybe I am not understanding your post but it seems some are posting about that link as though it is new....so sorry if i misunderstood.
Thanks BB!  That's what I thought too, I went back and looked at the other results that were posted but they were from March 2008 and no mention of Freddy; I thought this article from September 28, 2004 was the only one I saw Freddy in.

Again.  The date had nothing to do with this...it was Freddy's last name that I was wanting Mum to see.
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« Reply #1808 on: April 10, 2008, 11:15:18 PM »

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Mum's Freddy is still the same Freddy she has always looked at...Freddy Zedan...this surname stuff some of these cultures use is just confusing everyone.  Yes, there is a Fred Arends and yes, he may have something to do with this, but we need to see proof before we go running off in too many directions.  Lately, the confusion in here has me in a spin.  I want to see proof of some things and until that happen I am sticking with some of the things we already know...not saying it won't change in the future.

That news(?) article that listed Joran and Freddy as tennis partners is from 2004. Maybe I am not understanding your post but it seems some are posting about that link as though it is new....so sorry if i misunderstood.
Thanks BB!  That's what I thought too, I went back and looked at the other results that were posted but they were from March 2008 and no mention of Freddy; I thought this article from September 28, 2004 was the only one I saw Freddy in.

Again.  The date had nothing to do with this...it was Freddy's last name that I was wanting Mum to see.


Would some-one please repost the LINK for that article. All I can come up with on a search are 2007 and 2008.   TIA
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« Reply #1809 on: April 10, 2008, 11:32:24 PM »

Nothing wrong with posting it in here..it is true..now we have to wait until the next election to see any change. 


Mum, Sorry, I fell back asleep.  I am now confused again...would you please leave out the Arends guy...I am fairly certain the person you want is going to be Freddy Zedan.  That is the person that gave the PV and the one Anita was so eager to learn information from....that tells me that he DOES have some answers and these are answers they do not want told.  Joran is still playing tennis with Freddy in November of last year...so they are not on the "outs" as friends like Joran is with some others...interesting too, given Freddy gave so many statements to the police.   There is a reason of which we will never know given the fact that those PV's are never going to see the light of day.  Freddy does not need to tell the truth because the Kalpoes can't make him.
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Would some-one please repost the LINK for that article. All I can come up with on a search are 2007 and 2008.   TIA
Mum, I've been checking on the internet but haven't found anything.  If it's still out there it's probably archived so we may have difficulty finding it.  I'm not sure a link to the article was ever posted, may have just been something they had saved.  If I come across a link I will be sure to post it for you. 
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« Reply #1811 on: April 11, 2008, 12:38:55 AM »

Kerm, Hi....

The only chance to get that video is if Carpe still has it. I just asked him and he has had a lot of accounts closed due to copyright issues, but he might still have it on a disk or HD somewhere. When he replies, I'll post the response.

Thank you Rob.

always Kerm, anyway, Carpe replied and he does not have it and is looking elsewhere.


Okay. You know the one I am looking for is when Greta first approached him and he was sitting in a car & said he had to take the passenger to the airport.

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« Reply #1812 on: April 11, 2008, 12:41:13 AM »

. A "brick" is a bundle of 50 bags of heroin....More trivia!!!

I don't know a lot about heroin, but could it be considered "Yellow"????... I know there is black tar heroin. Just saying ...

yellow bricks?????

Also, Remember "eightball" who was in that picture with Steve Croes.

Eightball is heroin I think.

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« Reply #1813 on: April 11, 2008, 12:55:35 AM »

. A "brick" is a bundle of 50 bags of heroin....More trivia!!!

I don't know a lot about heroin, but could it be considered "Yellow"????... I know there is black tar heroin. Just saying ...

yellow bricks?????

Also, Remember "eightball" who was in that picture with Steve Croes.

Eightball is heroin I think.


Eight ball - 1/8 ounce of drugs; Eightball - crack and heroin ...
www.nicd.us/drugandrxmedicationspictures.html
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« Reply #1814 on: April 11, 2008, 01:00:35 AM »

. A "brick" is a bundle of 50 bags of heroin....More trivia!!!

I don't know a lot about heroin, but could it be considered "Yellow"????... I know there is black tar heroin. Just saying ...

yellow bricks?????

Also, Remember "eightball" who was in that picture with Steve Croes.

Eightball is heroin I think.



8 ball is a mixture of speed, coke and heroin...can be fatal, but is used by some hard core.
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« Reply #1815 on: April 11, 2008, 06:41:43 AM »

LaLa,

THINKING ABOUT THAT CATIRI APARTMENT:


MARTINA, Karen Theresa Paulina   – Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy.  Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.  Was named by JQK as a date rape victim of Joran, but Tacopina claims she has said it was consensual


"I took the camera to Freddy’s house.
We delivered the camera to Freddy, and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja." (Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement June 24, 2005.)

Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis







One for Kermit.... ...Ribbitt

Name: Carmen Aurora Jacopucci
Date: 28 June 2005 / 15:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement by a fried of Van der Sloot and Araambatzis
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« Reply #1816 on: April 11, 2008, 06:50:49 AM »

Hey!!!!  I want to know about Reuben Trappenburg...Why was a government spokesperson on Freddy and Deepak's Tickle sites?

And what sort of government has a fella that works for a radio station as their spokesman???

I think Satish uploaded all his friends on 6/8/2005...part of the plan!

A very interesting and informative video clip of an interchange between Bill O’Reilly, Jossy Mansur, and Reuben Trappenburg on last nights O’Reilly Factor. The discussion was based around Jossy finding out about 3 women who have supposedly been targeted by Joran Van Der Sloot as objects of his affection, perhaps against their will.

Reuben has a very hard time determining if the police know about this, and is befuddled how to answer it. Bill O’Reilly pokes some fun at the Aruban Government Spokesman. “Maybe he should be in charge of the investigation?” referring to Jossy.


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/08/24/reuben-trappenberg-jossy-mansur-orielly-wants-to-know-who-knows-more/



Blonde...catching up...sorry...I can't play the video, keep getting redirected, but I find this interesting that this appears to be BOR on 8/23 and Freddy's name wasn't confirmed by Fox until 8/29...
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« Reply #1817 on: April 11, 2008, 07:06:01 AM »

In addition, it was reported that both Max Arends and Jamie Carasquilla were brought in and questioned by polis regarding this pornographic video.)
From August 26
 http://tinyurl.com/ygvhey


MI DUSHI:
STEVE CROES WORKED HERE TOO


DOES ANYONE HAVE THE VIDEO OF GRETA INTERVIEWING STEVE CROES AT HIS HOME WHEN HE WAS GOING TO TAKE HIS PASSENGER TO THE AIRPORT?




I think these may all be related …..No Arends or Arendz?

Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint

Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint Name: Jossy Mansur
Date: 25 August 2005 / 12:30
Pages: 2 (1 attachment)
Writer/Initiator. J.J De Windt
Description: witness statement

Name: Leonardo Lopez Rivera (second statement) May be 'Chato'
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco ...Is this Freddy's girlfriend?Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Steve Croes
Date: 29 August 2005 / 9:15
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: A.R De Ruiter/ CJM Burgwal
Description: interrogation of a suspect

Name: Jaime Alberto Carrasquilla
Date:30 August 2005
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Koen Gottenbos
Date: 30 August 2005 / 18:30
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Eric Soemers
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« Reply #1818 on: April 11, 2008, 07:09:35 AM »

I remember reading this back in 2005, so the interest in the raquet club has always been there. I am just not sure how much to make of it.......


>>>>SNIP

After learning of the story about the pond near the Aruba Racquet Club and how law enforcement and the fire department kept Equusearch from the area the more important it became.

Unable to find the handy dandy map I was using, I was forced to do a search and found a very interesting listing that caught my attention. I try very hard to ignore the multitude of real estate listings that invariably come up wheneve I search for a map but this one screamed out at me for some reason. It looked familiar. It appears to be the Van der Sloot home, I am pretty sure about that. So I clicked the See owner's other properties and then found this. When you look at this photo of the home you will see that the side of the house faces the racquetball court, as I have drawn it on the map. You can click on the map to enlarge it. This will give you a better perspective of the areas discussed by the emerging witnesses and this house that appear to belong to the Van der Sloot family or possibly a corporation that Mr. Van der Sloot is involved with. This begs the question, did Joran have access to that house

http://tinyurl.com/3nnxfw



Wow, and I just happened to stumble across this old post today.  I thought the cryptic message was probably describing Lorenzo's house, but now I see what you have found about the Sloots owning other properties.

Posted by: Truth | Friday, December 07, 2007 at 01:56 PM
hard to believe... does PVD own or family-own other land in Aruba? If this land is close enough to hear the ocean- by a cliff?? Has bermuda grass and a garden with unfinished fish pond *cement in bags near by! distant cousin or cousin in law with a housekeeper??? small plot of land with chicken wire around it??? can hear surf; smell ocean??? washing machine in house-washed clothes dressed NH in different clothes- buried shoes, etc. in bermuda grass--- perhaps, NH alive- memory wiped clean??? no memory... now not on aruba somewhere foreign with dark moorish man??? if others have disappeared - huamn traafficking is a possibility! PVS is fishing pole; son is hook... drug is bait... look at the big picture,NH's story involves a lot of money... and big players--- JVS knows alot more than is being said... NH in house for some time around 3 am ... rental car---came---she disappeared. why let her die- if nothing was at stake??! (dream too vivid to be ignored)

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/paul_van_der_sl_1.html


Not just this property...I think they own or owned at the time an apartment.  I was told this by a reliable source once in a PM...that is when we had PMs. LOL


Anything that you can share, please?
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« Reply #1819 on: April 11, 2008, 07:14:11 AM »

Hi monkeys,

My research is going well,

Kalpoe                             Bodjhperkash S   5/2/1964                Distr. Wanica   Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad   Santakoemarie   10/28/1968   Distr.Saramacca   Seroe Patrishi 14C

The Above names are the Father and Mother Kalpoe and their address is Seroe Patrishi 41C

Ospina                              Martha B                     11/20/1950   Barranquilla   Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem                        Patrick P                 4/1/1973     Curacao                Seroe Patrishi 14F

Now in 2005 Patrick was register as living in Aruba. His Address is just 1 house down across the street from the Kalpoe's

Patrick know the Kalpoes then already, Patric was living with a girl name Marta Ospina. Scarface know the Kalpoes, What odd is that Patrick know also Joran famaly for a long time.

Now for Giovanni Ponson, H used to own a bussiness called INEX N.V. then moved on the open the Cyber Cafe, Near the Seaport. He has a son form an other marrage called Diego... still a kid.

Now Angelina Reppas came in the picture when Gio was in the computer repair in INEX. The odd is that They build a new house near not to far from the Raquet club with out a mortgage...He also just setup his own contruction company

Hire a some workers and let them build the house. Where the money to build that house came from is still a mistery. It seem that it came from europe when just beside the Internet cafe Angelina opend her own boutique selling European Fashon.  They seems to be connected to the owners of Tropical Cafe N.V. mr. Everts. The trpoical cafe also was a small cafe and suddenly it also was renovated to a hgh class cafe. Where is the money come from.

Rent on the places from Gios and Mr. Everts to the De Veer or Seaport Rantal Management is in the $25,000.00 a month.

The strike is now in full swing.





 


Caps...Can you please tell me where these districts are? Are they in Suriname?

Should we be looking at De Veer and the Marriott - Renaissance?  TIA
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