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« Reply #1820 on: April 11, 2008, 07:22:41 AM »

Hi monkeys,

My research is going well,

Kalpoe                             Bodjhperkash S   5/2/1964                Distr. Wanica   Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad   Santakoemarie   10/28/1968   Distr.Saramacca   Seroe Patrishi 14C


The Above names are the Father and Mother Kalpoe and their address is Seroe Patrishi 41C

Ospina                              Martha B                     11/20/1950   Barranquilla   Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem                        Patrick P                 4/1/1973     Curacao                Seroe Patrishi 14F

Now in 2005 Patrick was register as living in Aruba. His Address is just 1 house down across the street from the Kalpoe's

Patrick know the Kalpoes then already, Patric was living with a girl name Marta Ospina. Scarface know the Kalpoes, What odd is that Patrick know also Joran famaly for a long time.

Now for Giovanni Ponson, H used to own a bussiness called INEX N.V. then moved on the open the Cyber Cafe, Near the Seaport. He has a son form an other marrage called Diego... still a kid.

Now Angelina Reppas came in the picture when Gio was in the computer repair in INEX. The odd is that They build a new house near not to far from the Raquet club with out a mortgage...He also just setup his own contruction company

Hire a some workers and let them build the house. Where the money to build that house came from is still a mistery. It seem that it came from europe when just beside the Internet cafe Angelina opend her own boutique selling European Fashon.  They seems to be connected to the owners of Tropical Cafe N.V. mr. Everts. The trpoical cafe also was a small cafe and suddenly it also was renovated to a hgh class cafe. Where is the money come from.

Rent on the places from Gios and Mr. Everts to the De Veer or Seaport Rantal Management is in the $25,000.00 a month.

The strike is now in full swing.





 


The Kalpoes lived with their mother and step-father:

Luis & (Nadira) Khentwattie Rujkumar Ramirez
Hooiberg 91-B

I believe their biological father lives in Suriname...



VMS are you sure your data is correct, at the adress lives these persons

Bouwman   Martin R   11/22/1950   Soerabaja   Hooiberg 91B
Ramirez   Luis A   5/2/1960   Aruba   Hooiberg 91B



Luis Ramirez is their step-father. The address is listed in the chamber records and also, IIRC, there is a picture of their home where the address (number) is visible.

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=34963

I don't know about the Bouman person though, Caps.


Found a soccer guy in the Netherlands, Maarten Bouwman????  Mot sure where Evert or Opila, sp. are comimg from either.  Confused!!!  Just a normal day in the Shango thread!
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« Reply #1821 on: April 11, 2008, 07:57:18 AM »

GBMW…posted this on NAH….so I guess I did miss what Caps was saying!
« Reply #913 on: Today at 06:35:08 AM »

Patrick van der Eem, who's has been an incredible help in this case, comes from Curacao and I think he has family living on Aruba (I'm not sure though). He helped Natalee's loved ones without knowing if it would lead to anything....for months he was living "Joranlife"; his family / social life / job...all suffered for it and he did it without any hesitation. Even though he's not an Aruban I do believe he considers himself (as I do) as one of the 'island people'. So I do think that one of the good people of Aruba helped this case in an incredible way...and one of the reasons was his love for the island and its people. You might think the boycott did a part of its job then...I'm hopeful he would have even done it without the boycott
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« Reply #1822 on: April 11, 2008, 08:07:56 AM »



Would some-one please repost the LINK for that article. All I can come up with on a search are 2007 and 2008.   TIA
Mum, I've been checking on the internet but haven't found anything.  If it's still out there it's probably archived so we may have difficulty finding it.  I'm not sure a link to the article was ever posted, may have just been something they had saved.  If I come across a link I will be sure to post it for you. 


Thanks everyone for your patience!….I found the link and checked it out. It is from a radio-controlled plane site in Suriname. Articles about them were in the paper and that is why it was on their site. Fellow’s name is David Chin or Chen.

5:24 pm
nancy drew: http://www.aeromodelers.sr.org/david/am28sep04.pdf  28 sept 2004
B-Doubles team Freddy Zedan/Joran van der Sloot beat Peter Villevoix/Lex Burgman in a surprise sweep


So Freddy Zedan it is….LOL…still not sure on the Albert in Momma’s name though!

It appears that for some reason Freddy only called himself Arambatzis for a short time? After his release, I think, he said that from now on he wanted to be called Freddy Zedan.  LOL, what did he do borrow the name for a while?

MO …Ernesto Arambatzis is a half brother, Sasha Rodriguez is a half sister, and we have another Rodriguez in the Dr Phil docs, which may or may not be related. Mutiple marriages!

So I am still stuck with the name of Zedan with very little to go on. It has to be the father’s name, right???

Pic of Freddy and Ernesto here…and maybe Ernesto on the previous page

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2680


Would the Monkeys please take a look at this pic that Klaas posted and give me their thoughts on Freddy? It appears to be Moombas and is down towards the bottom of the page. Thank You!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2680

 

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« Reply #1823 on: April 11, 2008, 09:57:13 AM »

Please let me set the record straight...I was mistaken when I type in Freddy and Joran...I was thinking about two things at once...Freddy's last name and the videos from the beach tennis.  As I tried to say and have not made my self clear...I was talking about the name part of the story and my mind (which is limited in capacity) was thinking about the beach tennis at the same time.  Well, I don't multi task very well..so I confused the two.  I am sorry, I never meant to insinuate that I KNEW anything...sorry.  The last two days have been a bit trying so a little leeway here...please.


Now, what's today's topic?

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« Reply #1824 on: April 11, 2008, 10:05:02 AM »

Mum
Did you mean to link to the same place twice?  I don't understand your second link and your question because when I open it...it is the same as the first one. TIA
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« Reply #1825 on: April 11, 2008, 10:18:13 AM »

Mum
Did you mean to link to the same place twice?  I don't understand your second link and your question because when I open it...it is the same as the first one. TIA

NO...let me check when I get off the phone....
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« Reply #1826 on: April 11, 2008, 10:28:37 AM »

Mum
Did you mean to link to the same place twice?  I don't understand your second link and your question because when I open it...it is the same as the first one. TIA




Thanks Lala’s…

ERNESTO…
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2680



Would the Monkeys please take a look at this pic that Klaas posted and give me their thoughts on Freddy? It appears to be Moombas and is down towards the bottom of the page. Thank You!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2940


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« Reply #1827 on: April 11, 2008, 10:35:13 AM »

Please let me set the record straight...I was mistaken when I type in Freddy and Joran...I was thinking about two things at once...Freddy's last name and the videos from the beach tennis.  As I tried to say and have not made my self clear...I was talking about the name part of the story and my mind (which is limited in capacity) was thinking about the beach tennis at the same time.  Well, I don't multi task very well..so I confused the two.  I am sorry, I never meant to insinuate that I KNEW anything...sorry.  The last two days have been a bit trying so a little leeway here...please.


Now, what's today's topic?


Well ...now I think I have the right link....I would like thoughts on Freddy in that pic...not that we have to do another Freddy day...

I have questions on how Steve was determined to be one of the Croes! Totally lost on this one!

Also if any of the genealogy Monks got any further with the GVC/Croes connection.

Found a little on the MIDUSHI that Kermit mentioned...

And did some-one mention an Edward Croes?

But Lala's..if there is something else...I'll go with the flow...LOL

Sorry about messing up the quote!


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« Reply #1828 on: April 11, 2008, 10:55:01 AM »

Mum
Did you mean to link to the same place twice?  I don't understand your second link and your question because when I open it...it is the same as the first one. TIA




Thanks Lala’s…

ERNESTO…
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2680



Would the Monkeys please take a look at this pic that Klaas posted and give me their thoughts on Freddy? It appears to be Moombas and is down towards the bottom of the page. Thank You!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2940






This one, Mum?
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« Reply #1829 on: April 11, 2008, 11:15:51 AM »

Mum
Did you mean to link to the same place twice?  I don't understand your second link and your question because when I open it...it is the same as the first one. TIA




Thanks Lala’s…

ERNESTO…
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2680



Would the Monkeys please take a look at this pic that Klaas posted and give me their thoughts on Freddy? It appears to be Moombas and is down towards the bottom of the page. Thank You!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2940






This one, Mum?


Thank You vms....that will make it so much easier! Good Morning!
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« Reply #1830 on: April 11, 2008, 12:14:47 PM »

Posted this in the NAH thread this morning....thought I'd put it here too...names...names...and more names...  Destiny.

*Hmmmmmmmm....found an intersting link...I think it has all the people we've ever talked about listed...it has all their full names...and where they live/local....found this one there:

VAN RIJN-VAN TRAKSEL     ASTRID LOUISE     SAVANETA

Yes....Ramona is there too...she is listed with Noord...*

Full link here: http://www.arubachamber.com/LC%20KLEIN%2005-06-2005.htm
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« Reply #1831 on: April 11, 2008, 01:03:53 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...
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« Reply #1832 on: April 11, 2008, 01:28:50 PM »

was surfing and found an expired poker/gaming site...was let there by searching some Aruba stuff.  www.lionsdengaming.com
site name has expired.  but it also let me to this. another online poker site that mentions the Lions Den...what if the Lions Den was/is a group of high stakes online poker players...yes, I have scrambled brains today...LOL

Bay 101 Shooting Stars Event; End of Day 1; San Jose, CA
Wednesday, 01 March 2006
 

Oh man, people, I am tired. My eyes are burning and my brain is mushy. We' re talking cream of wheat up there...with buttah.

Today certainly took it's toll on everyone's psyche. We finished up tonight at 11, and the troops were hurting. Everyone was pretty exhausted, but obviously stoked to still be alive.

The day started slowly and our table quickly became a battle between Fabrice Soulier and me. Unfortunately for me, I won the medium pots and Fab took down the monsters. This was exacerbated by the fact that I grossly misplayed two hands and ending up dumping quite a few chips off to him. Luckily for me we parted ways after about halfway through the day and so I only had to be his bitch for about 4 hours. On a sidenote, Tuan Le was our "star" and I got the chance to bust him and pick up the $5000 on his head. That made the event 50% cheaper for me, which was sweet. It sucked a little though, as Tuan is a part of our extended family and a good friend of mine. He had $5000 stamped on his head though! Sometimes you gotta take out your vietnamese brothers for that kind of cash, baby.

When I left my first table I was somehow sitting on about 28,000 chips, but then was moved into the lion's den. I had Dan Harrington, Isabelle Mercier, Nenad Medic, and Chris Grigorian at my new table. Talk about a brutal upgrade in competition. Ouch!

I got lucky enough somehow to build my stack up to about 66,000 fairly quickly when I ended up getting Dan all-in with against my . Yahtzee! We had built a massive pot as well, totaling about 38,000! I...was...stoked. Big time bad news for me though as Dan found the

      

 

Bay 101 Shooting Stars Event; End of Day 1; San Jose, CA
Wednesday, 01 March 2006
 

Oh man, people, I am tired. My eyes are burning and my brain is mushy. We' re talking cream of wheat up there...with buttah.

Today certainly took it's toll on everyone's psyche. We finished up tonight at 11, and the troops were hurting. Everyone was pretty exhausted, but obviously stoked to still be alive.

The day started slowly and our table quickly became a battle between Fabrice Soulier and me. Unfortunately for me, I won the medium pots and Fab took down the monsters. This was exacerbated by the fact that I grossly misplayed two hands and ending up dumping quite a few chips off to him. Luckily for me we parted ways after about halfway through the day and so I only had to be his bitch for about 4 hours. On a sidenote, Tuan Le was our "star" and I got the chance to bust him and pick up the $5000 on his head. That made the event 50% cheaper for me, which was sweet. It sucked a little though, as Tuan is a part of our extended family and a good friend of mine. He had $5000 stamped on his head though! Sometimes you gotta take out your vietnamese brothers for that kind of cash, baby.

When I left my first table I was somehow sitting on about 28,000 chips, but then was moved into the lion's den. I had Dan Harrington, Isabelle Mercier, Nenad Medic, and Chris Grigorian at my new table. Talk about a brutal upgrade in competition. Ouch!

I got lucky enough somehow to build my stack up to about 66,000 fairly quickly when I ended up getting Dan all-in with against my . Yahtzee! We had built a massive pot as well, totaling about 38,000! I...was...stoked. Big time bad news for me though as Dan found the
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« Reply #1833 on: April 11, 2008, 01:29:53 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...

Thanks VMS....I'm always behing the curve....LOL
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« Reply #1834 on: April 11, 2008, 01:36:28 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...

Thanks VMS....I'm always behing the curve....LOL
No, you are not!    Laughing
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« Reply #1835 on: April 11, 2008, 01:37:34 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...

Hi vms...just wondering if anyone sees anything different about Freddy? Sometimes I see things differently! Sorry...I thought I had replied...do not multitask very well either!

You don't happen to know the exact charges against the Kalpoes from August of 2005 do you?   TIA
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« Reply #1836 on: April 11, 2008, 01:39:18 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...

Thanks VMS....I'm always behing the curve....LOL
No, you are not!    Laughing


...blush...Thank You...
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« Reply #1837 on: April 11, 2008, 01:42:21 PM »

Good afternoon, Mum.
What are we looking for in the pic? TIA


Destiny,
Yes, that is where we find many of the names...

Hi vms...just wondering if anyone sees anything different about Freddy? Sometimes I see things differently! Sorry...I thought I had replied...do not multitask very well either!

You don't happen to know the exact charges against the Kalpoes from August of 2005 do you?   TIA

I have to run for a bit but I will look when I get back, if someone doesn't find it for you first!
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« Reply #1838 on: April 11, 2008, 01:43:56 PM »

Thank you

Texasmom and jackb - with the information on eightball.


Thank you

Miss Mum for the statement info.

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« Reply #1839 on: April 11, 2008, 01:45:31 PM »

In addition, it was reported that both Max Arends and Jamie Carasquilla were brought in and questioned by polis regarding this pornographic video.)
From August 26
 http://tinyurl.com/ygvhey


MI DUSHI:
STEVE CROES WORKED HERE TOO


DOES ANYONE HAVE THE VIDEO OF GRETA INTERVIEWING STEVE CROES AT HIS HOME WHEN HE WAS GOING TO TAKE HIS PASSENGER TO THE AIRPORT?




I think these may all be related …..No Arends or Arendz?

Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint

Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint Name: Jossy Mansur
Date: 25 August 2005 / 12:30
Pages: 2 (1 attachment)
Writer/Initiator. J.J De Windt
Description: witness statement

Name: Leonardo Lopez Rivera (second statement) May be 'Chato'
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco ...Is this Freddy's girlfriend?Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Steve Croes
Date: 29 August 2005 / 9:15
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: A.R De Ruiter/ CJM Burgwal
Description: interrogation of a suspect

Name: Jaime Alberto Carrasquilla
Date:30 August 2005
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Koen Gottenbos
Date: 30 August 2005 / 18:30
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement



Leonardo Lopez Rivera

I'm pretty sure this guy use to be close buddies with Joran and they drank together, but something happened between them. Sounded to me like Joran got ticked at the guy or something and that was the end of the friendship.

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