Natalee Case Discussion #745 3/25 - 4/4/08

[Buckeye]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

 

[Buckeye]

wreck

I'm waiting for the Palestinian hacking to get blamed on Beth and "the family".

 

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks for all the help monkeys....once again you came through!

[Rob]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

according to TJ she was... I made a post about it on my blog when he told me.

[wreck]

wreck

I'm waiting for the Palestinian hacking to get blamed on Beth and "the family".

 

Yeah, maybe the "sister of Hitler" and the Jews connection! 

[Tamikosmom]

Guys, I have never seen the news coming this slow before or the forums posting this few pages. Is there anything going on or is this case actually closed?

My personal opinion is Mos has closed the case and he will do nothing more. Afterall, he has released all three as suspects.

Hi Spock!

I'm never 'real time' any more, so I always miss you online, and I've been wanting to respond to your thought provoking posts. I've been trying to figure out the silence 'options' as well.

If Mos closes the case he is, in effect, giving all the documents to Beth.  So, not sure.

In the past -- these disturbing silences were broken with big news. Not necessary good news. Just big. Maybe this time it will be big and nurturing for Natalee and her family.

The silence (from Aruba) could also be that everyone involved is realizing that everyone involved is a liar and corrupt with personal agendas for personal gain -- so no one trusts anyone and no one will speak with anyone 

The one thing I KNOW -- if they are once again sticking their heads in hiding places and hope that we do go away -- once again they will be proven wrong.


Boycott Aruba
Justice for Natalee

I'm a little torn between thinking something MAJOR is brewing and/or Aruba has FINALLY wised up and realized that their "campaign" featuring Renfro/Purcell/Rob Smith et al is actually doing more harm than good. I think they are in the "don't comment" stage. MO

I agree Wreck.  Also ... it appears that Aruba has been finally  successful at silencing Joran.  As Beth implies ... it is a good thing that every time he opens his mouth ... he implicates himself with his ongoing lies.

I sincerely hope that the family has a strategy to assure that that the eighteen year old American citizen who went missing on the Island of Aruba and ... was denied justice by a corrupt Aruban investigation does not become a distance memory as media attention fades.

Janet

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GRETA/JORAN INTERVIEW

Beth Twitty
On the Record w/ Greta
March 21, 2006

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you and I have spent an awful lot of time together, talked together. You know my entire staff. Was it difficult for you that we sat down with him?

TWITTY: Oh, no. No, I mean, I think that any time that we can get Joran speaking, I think that he only incriminates himself every time. And you know, I've heard his offer that he is willing to sit down with myself or with Dave or the family, and absolutely, I would do it. I would go to Holland. I'd meet him wherever he would choose to. But you know, Greta, I would have to have one polygraph expert with me because, you know, just having Joran talk without any type of repercussions — I mean, I think those days are over for him. You know, I'd like to get to the bottom of where his lies are, and I think that a polygraph expert could help do that.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188645,00.html


CHRIS CUOMO/JORAN INTERVIEW (PRIMETIME)

Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
February 23, 2006

TWITTY: ... I`m just glad that he is coming out and speaking on camera because I heard a clip that you -- a sound bite earlier, and he does -- when he tells one lie, more evolve. And it just is mind-boggling how we are all just witnessing this from Joran.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/ng.01.html

[WhiskeyGirl]

thanks!

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WASN'T THERE A NICE LI'L GATHERING OF MANGROVE TREES DIRECTLY

BEHIND THE ROCKS NEAR THE LIGHTHOUSE? (Arubay Videos)

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 GRACE: Yes. And they didn't keep him. They decided they didn't have enough evidence to keep him. They let him go again. At that point, as soon as he gets back, they get into this specially outfitted super expensive SUV and he starts talking. He starts talking about the arrest, he talks about the fact that Natalee will never be found, that she is in the ocean, and his story in a nutshell, Glenn Beck, is that he was with the girl, they were making out on the beach alone the night before she leaves, just hours away from returning to America and she suddenly goes into convulsions and dies. Instead of calling 911 or rendering aid, he hides her body in some mangrove trees, calls a friend to come dump the body about a mile offshore. That's his story.
 
 GLENN: Okay. Now he says, and I'm just quoting -- I wish I could play the audio but it's -- you know, it's in, you know, wooden shoe language. So he says, "I almost wanted to cry." He said, "She was shaking." And Van der Eem says, "Shaking?" Van der Sloot: Yes, a lot. I almost wanted to cry. Why does this -- expletive -- always happen to me. I mean, first of all his first thought is, me, I wanted to cry because it was happening to me.


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CLINKY / LINKY -A. Powers
 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/5619/

"One witness is no witness." 

Would the real Daury please step forward? 

Who is witness, besides the now missing Natalee to Joran's story of calling for help?

[Tamikosmom]

I'm a little torn between thinking something MAJOR is brewing and/or Aruba has FINALLY wised up and realized that their "campaign" featuring Renfro/Purcell/Rob Smith et al is actually doing more harm than good. I think they are in the "don't comment" stage. MO

Maybe ... just maybe ... this is the calm before the storm.

Maybe ... just maybe ... I was wrong and ... others were right.  Hans Mos does have a master plan afterall.  Joran, Deepak, Satish, Paulus, the sons of the elite (pimps), those in the Dutch/Aruban administrations who were involved or aware of the coverup as well as the corrupt judges are all going to go down ... they are all going to be held accountable.

Maybe ... just maybe ... Tamikosmom is going to be forced to eat an entire crow pie.

 

Janet

[WhiskeyGirl]

(snip)

(snip)

JVDS will never be free another day in his life, unless he goes under extensive plastic surgery to look like Pam Anderson, he will always be a target.  He has chosen the hard way, imo.  Going to jail would be a cake walk compared to the rest of his life.  People are angry and are going to stay angry for a long time, longer than JVS walks this earth, imo.

I am reminded of the following "It takes a whole village to raise a child."

Many have suggested the JVDS and others do not have a conscience, and may substitute "no body / no crime / no case / fill in the blank" for moral and ethical values.

I'm thinking that the global village will forever function to remind these folks of the moral and ethical conscience they may be missing/lacking or perhaps experiencing in a deficit position.

It takes a whole village to raise a child. 

Did JVDS have incidents in his past that involved the authorities on Aruba? 

What possible reason could their be for a judge to be removed from the bench in Aruba?

Why would anyone call for a boat and not an ambulance?

Where was the village?  The parents?

imho

[Tamikosmom]

wreck

I'm waiting for the Palestinian hacking to get blamed on Beth and "the family".

 

... or Monkeys.

 

Janet

[Buckeye]

thanks!

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WASN'T THERE A NICE LI'L GATHERING OF MANGROVE TREES DIRECTLY

BEHIND THE ROCKS NEAR THE LIGHTHOUSE? (Arubay Videos)

.............

 GRACE: Yes. And they didn't keep him. They decided they didn't have enough evidence to keep him. They let him go again. At that point, as soon as he gets back, they get into this specially outfitted super expensive SUV and he starts talking. He starts talking about the arrest, he talks about the fact that Natalee will never be found, that she is in the ocean, and his story in a nutshell, Glenn Beck, is that he was with the girl, they were making out on the beach alone the night before she leaves, just hours away from returning to America and she suddenly goes into convulsions and dies. Instead of calling 911 or rendering aid, he hides her body in some mangrove trees, calls a friend to come dump the body about a mile offshore. That's his story.
 
 GLENN: Okay. Now he says, and I'm just quoting -- I wish I could play the audio but it's -- you know, it's in, you know, wooden shoe language. So he says, "I almost wanted to cry." He said, "She was shaking." And Van der Eem says, "Shaking?" Van der Sloot: Yes, a lot. I almost wanted to cry. Why does this -- expletive -- always happen to me. I mean, first of all his first thought is, me, I wanted to cry because it was happening to me.


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CLINKY / LINKY -A. Powers
 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/5619/

"One witness is no witness." 

Would the real Daury please step forward? 

Who is witness, besides the now missing Natalee to Joran's story of calling for help?

Funny you should ask.  Interesting discussion, the other day, by Dutch posters at
RU:

 
nickhs wrote March 11, 2008:
While talking to the man with the boat....(him and he in the quote)
"J: So I told him, but if the police come, Deepak and Satish have dropped me of at the beach there, so I will have to talk with them also. Then he said, "Yes, that is true."

What Joran really said on the tape was a loud and clear:
Then SHE said, "Yes, that is true."

As if he was talking to a WOMAN. Now would you make that mistake telling a story to someone else, if it was really a man you were talking to?
Looks like a freudian slip of the tongue.

Also, how could HE know that was true, HE wasn't there when he first said that to Deepak/Satish? But SHE obviously was.


marco  Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:38 pm

You are right.........................
Joran talked about a "she" who helped him......



dugo wrote:

So .. Joran called his mom w/ the "international" phone .. or .. what was Joran fantasising about..



marco  Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZBQsuk3vGA&feature=related

listen to the tape @ 0.40

Joran said: then SHE said, yes that's true.
referring to his"helper"

 

[Buckeye]

wreck

I'm waiting for the Palestinian hacking to get blamed on Beth and "the family".

 

... or Monkeys.

 

Janet

So true...the monkkkeys.....

[Buckeye]

Rob

Post some of what you know about Max DeVries on the Dutch Thread (Natalee Holloway in the rebound), below this thread.  I posted ******* knew the details but I actually think you are the one that has had contact with Max's mom?????  TIA

[Rob]

Rob

Post some of what you know about Max DeVries on the Dutch Thread (Natalee Holloway in the rebound), below this thread.  I posted ******* knew the details but I actually think you are the one that has had contact with Max's mom?????  TIA

HI Buckeye, yes I know Yvonne. Max's story is a long one and I'll put together what I know and post it tomorrow.

[Buckeye]

Rob

Post some of what you know about Max DeVries on the Dutch Thread (Natalee Holloway in the rebound), below this thread.  I posted ******* knew the details but I actually think you are the one that has had contact with Max's mom?????  TIA

HI Buckeye, yes I know Yvonne. Max's story is a long one and I'll put together what I know and post it tomorrow.

Thanks.  I thought it might add a personal touch to their postings.  Maybe they won't be interested.   

[Buckeye]

O/T

Has anyone seen any Peaches' postings recently?

[klaasend]

O/T

Has anyone seen any Peaches' postings recently?

Peaches last posted on March 24th and last logged in yesterday.  I pray for her every day.

[Buckeye]

O/T

Has anyone seen any Peaches' postings recently?

Peaches last posted on March 24th and last logged in yesterday.  I pray for her every day.

Thanks...me too.........

[CapsLockWizard]

If anyone can help answer Caps question I would be much appreciative.

CapsLockWizard

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
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one more question:

Who help the Texas EquuSearch team when in Aruba. Either with food or lodging or with something. who is this person or enterprise.

CAPS

Am I thinking housing at Brickle Bay???

# The Brickell Bay Beach Club - Aruba
# John W. Fisk Co. Insurance
# Underwriters: Great American Insurance Co.
# Texas de Brazil
# The Wyndham - Aruba Resort, Spa and Casino
# Eduardo y Elaiza Roubicek
# S E Aruba Fly and Dive
# Red Sail Sports Aruba
# Aruban Search and Rescue

http://tinyurl.com/39fh7c

Any Info on this one  S E Aruba Fly and Dive...2008 New Year at this address was a rave party...

[AZSunny]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Did you mean Karin??