Natalee Case Discussion #745 3/25 - 4/4/08

[Bearlyhere]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

Preferably without pictures.

 

[Buckeye]

If anyone can help answer Caps question I would be much appreciative.

CapsLockWizard

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #341 on: Today at 02:59:31 PM »
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one more question:

Who help the Texas EquuSearch team when in Aruba. Either with food or lodging or with something. who is this person or enterprise.

CAPS

Am I thinking housing at Brickle Bay???

# The Brickell Bay Beach Club - Aruba
# John W. Fisk Co. Insurance
# Underwriters: Great American Insurance Co.
# Texas de Brazil
# The Wyndham - Aruba Resort, Spa and Casino
# Eduardo y Elaiza Roubicek
# S E Aruba Fly and Dive
# Red Sail Sports Aruba
# Aruban Search and Rescue

http://tinyurl.com/39fh7c

Any Info on this one  S E Aruba Fly and Dive...2008 New Year at this address was a rave party...

Never heard of them....but here's a link to the crew:

http://www.searuba.com/crew.php

[Dayhiker]

Hi Spock!

I'm never 'real time' any more, so I always miss you online, and I've been wanting to respond to your thought provoking posts. I've been trying to figure out the silence 'options' as well.

If Mos closes the case he is, in effect, giving all the documents to Beth.  So, not sure.

In the past -- these disturbing silences were broken with big news. Not necessary good news. Just big. Maybe this time it will be big and nurturing for Natalee and her family.

The silence (from Aruba) could also be that everyone involved is realizing that everyone involved is a liar and corrupt with personal agendas for personal gain -- so no one trusts anyone and no one will speak with anyone 

The one thing I KNOW -- if they are once again sticking their heads in hiding places and hope that we do go away -- once again they will be proven wrong.


Boycott Aruba
Justice for Natalee

I'm a little torn between thinking something MAJOR is brewing and/or Aruba has FINALLY wised up and realized that their "campaign" featuring Renfro/Purcell/Rob Smith et al is actually doing more harm than good. I think they are in the "don't comment" stage. MO

I think they are in the "Continue the Bullshit" stage. Hans is pulling a Karin by trying to stall the case as long as he can and Dop is his step-and-fetch-it. Nobody the Dutch have on Aruba has any intention of doing anything. The only ones who can do anything are in Holland. All that hockey about Aruba being autonomous of a steaming pile of horse crap. All the Prosecutors' Office and Judicial System is run lock, stock, and barrel out of Holland. Hey, they're all Dutch, that ought to tell you something. Seen any Aruban prosecutors or judges lately? The only time you see any Arubans is on the police force.

[Dayhiker]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

Preferably without pictures.

 

 

[Tamikosmom]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

Preferably without pictures.

 

 

EEEEEW

[Dayhiker]

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JVDS will never be free another day in his life, unless he goes under extensive plastic surgery to look like Pam Anderson, he will always be a target.  He has chosen the hard way, imo.  Going to jail would be a cake walk compared to the rest of his life.  People are angry and are going to stay angry for a long time, longer than JVS walks this earth, imo.

I am reminded of the following "It takes a whole village to raise a child."

Many have suggested the JVDS and others do not have a conscience, and may substitute "no body / no crime / no case / fill in the blank" for moral and ethical values.

I'm thinking that the global village will forever function to remind these folks of the moral and ethical conscience they may be missing/lacking or perhaps experiencing in a deficit position.

It takes a whole village to raise a child. 

Did JVDS have incidents in his past that involved the authorities on Aruba? 

What possible reason could their be for a judge to be removed from the bench in Aruba?

Why would anyone call for a boat and not an ambulance?

Where was the village?  The parents?

imho

The only thing that will change Joran is some serious prison time. Unfortunately his miserable parents failed him a long time ago and there is no way they can put the toothpaste back in the tube. They have created a mnonster by their own hand, one who will only respond to a monster bigger than his malicious, murderous self. He will always be dangerous because he has gotten away with it all his life and continues to til this day.

If the Dutch powers fail to put him in prison he will come back to embarrass them time and time again. They already look like a bunch of worthless louses for doing nothing even when he confessed to the crime but he will find a way to make them look even worse.

[Dayhiker]

Klaas, when you get a chance please switch me back to my old Avi. I am running out of chicken feed. Thanks!

[AZSunny]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

Preferably without pictures.

 

 

EEEEEW

[Dayhiker]

Well I read every Aruban newspaper today and nothing of interest at all. One thing is clear and that is every American tourist in the paper looks like a fat,ignorant lowlife,reject or elderly that looked the other way to get a cheap timeshare in warm weather. The kind of scum that should not be welcomed back in the U.S.A for turning there back on one of there own! Makes me want to puke! I sure hope that a active American Boycott of Aruba will start because they aren't doing anything except sprinkling more BS on top of the cover up in hopes this all goes away.

The Aruban Govt probably is paying Joran's expenses in Germany to keep his mouth shut,Paul Van Der Sloot is still being fed cases and still on the Govt Committees. The case was closed in 2005 as they had no intention of ever going to trial or investigating anything further as it was already solved. It's been one big Dog and Pony show ever since. So many times they are caught lying and covering up Natalee's Murder,so if they don't ever say anything again and no one is allowed to talk about it,they think it will all go away.

The Dutch have had this case since August 2006 and have done jack sh@* except appoint Hans Mos to keep the case closed and BS the world into thinking they were actually investigating. WTF are the Dutch doing? Take a good look at the people that lied and covered up Natalee's rape and murder because most of them were appointed by the Dutch Government. It's quite clear all they care about is there precious Tourism and they will lie,cheat,steal and kill to protect it and the dirty corrupt individuals that run the tiny little island.

I wish I wrote that, because agree with every word of it, I so very much do.

I agree with you too, *******. I think Hans' original mission was to take that one last gallant stab at prosecuting the case as a public relations move to show the Dutch government really does care. He based his whole case on a few dink text messages and the rash assumption that the boys would talk. In other words, he knew he didn't have anything when he came in and anybody with shit for brains knew they weren't going to talk.

After he was rebuffed by the crooked judges he whittled the detective staff down to four phone answerers. Mission accomplished... until Joran made his job of closing the case more difficult with his taped confession. Of course, he didn't do anything with the confession because that was never part of the plan. Hans Mos never intended on prosecuting the case so he is just doing exactly what Karin Jannsen did and is sitting on his ass until he can go back to Holland and they replace him with another worthless jackass.

[Dayhiker]

MONKEYS ARE IN HOUSTON THIS WEEKEND. ROCK ON HOUSTON MONKEYS!!!

[WhiskeyGirl]

Klaas, when you get a chance please switch me back to my old Avi. I am running out of chicken feed. Thanks!

It looks like those chicks have started on your feet.  mo

[KYcat]

Hello Monkeys, I have been reading and trying to catch up.  I have learned some new and interesting information tonight.  As I posted earlier, I am a newbie, so if I mess up please let me know -- just delete post.  The following posts are from the Aruba Trip Advisor Forum and the post from Brownknee really bothered me.  The comment about the men being a little older and their interest in the girls!!!  I can't get this out of my mind - it bothers me on so many levels.  If this is old news - I apologize - just wanted to share. 


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ashley79
   Alabama
   Joined: Mar 2005
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 Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005  Save
Just wanted to warn everyone:

My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie's, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.


 Brownknee
   Omaha, NE
   Joined: Jan 2004
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 Posted on: 9:04 pm, May 31, 2005  Save
Just went and checked out the news site. Does not sound like this girl but rather a pair of sisters. Regardless this is scarey!!! I was at Carlos and Charlies Monday night with my 18 year old daughter. It was the dinner hour and rather tame at the time. We were told how safe the island is and the low crime rate. With Venezuela only 19 miles away and with all their problems I found it amazing that Aruba was so safe. Now we are hearing about kidnappings! While we were in Aruba we went on the Kukoo Kanuko Party Bus. They took us to 3 local watering holes. There were some local men hitting on unescorted single women. At the time I thought it was a little odd because the men seemed a little older and interested in the girls in a way I cannot explain. They showed up at all three places. The girls were having fun dancing and ofcourse they were drinking way to much. After this posting it really makes me wonder what was really going on and what the true intentions of the men were.

  I think this information should be put on other message boards to warn others.

I WILL ALSO BE PRAYING FOR THIS GIRLS SAFE RETURN.


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[KYcat]

 

Did I stop everybody from posting?  I have to clarify that I know the post I made earlier is not new but I had never read it before and therefore, it was "new" to me!

 

[San]

Did I stop everybody from posting?  I have to clarify that I know the post I made earlier is not new but I had never read it before and therefore, it was "new" to me!

 

No you did not stop everyone from posting.  It has been slow tonight.

[klaasend]

Did I stop everybody from posting?  I have to clarify that I know the post I made earlier is not new but I had never read it before and therefore, it was "new" to me!

 

KYcat - no, it's not you, it's just been really slow with no news in the case.  Everyone is waiting for something to happen.

[CapsLockWizard]

If anyone can help answer Caps question I would be much appreciative.

CapsLockWizard

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #341 on: Today at 02:59:31 PM »
   Reply with quoteQuote
one more question:

Who help the Texas EquuSearch team when in Aruba. Either with food or lodging or with something. who is this person or enterprise.

CAPS

Am I thinking housing at Brickle Bay???

# The Brickell Bay Beach Club - Aruba
# John W. Fisk Co. Insurance
# Underwriters: Great American Insurance Co.
# Texas de Brazil
# The Wyndham - Aruba Resort, Spa and Casino
# Eduardo y Elaiza Roubicek
# S E Aruba Fly and Dive
# Red Sail Sports Aruba
# Aruban Search and Rescue

http://tinyurl.com/39fh7c

Any Info on this one  S E Aruba Fly and Dive...2008 New Year at this address was a rave party...

Never heard of them....but here's a link to the crew:

http://www.searuba.com/crew.php

Well it seems that Micheal is the owner of all these Business...and all are with Dutch Owners.

Now here is a question DirtyHand is not dutch either acording to some source. Most do not know that person.  He seems more Eatern Europe. THe Crew of the Fly and Dive all are Ex Marines.... DH is still Hosting those Military war parties.

I have fix the riddle and it seems a Kidnapp / switch issue.

any one has any idea what theaty Micheal Posner had and with who.

Also an other word for MOB Naction that Micheal is part of

 

[klaasend]

[KYcat]

    Klaas, you can delete my post, me thinks it was irrelevant.  I promise I will get used to posting "appropriately"!!

I've been lurking tonight at other forums and there is a lot of bashing going on.  I actually think these people are going to bash each other to death>>>> it is hilarious!

In the meantime, I love these smiley faces -- too cute!

[jackb]

Janet she was sleeping with him.

Link please.

 

Janet

according to TJ she was... I made a post about it on my blog when he told me.

Does that mean PVS has a weiner?  At least a wee nee neiner? 

[jackb]

thanks!

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WASN'T THERE A NICE LI'L GATHERING OF MANGROVE TREES DIRECTLY

BEHIND THE ROCKS NEAR THE LIGHTHOUSE? (Arubay Videos)

.............

 GRACE: Yes. And they didn't keep him. They decided they didn't have enough evidence to keep him. They let him go again. At that point, as soon as he gets back, they get into this specially outfitted super expensive SUV and he starts talking. He starts talking about the arrest, he talks about the fact that Natalee will never be found, that she is in the ocean, and his story in a nutshell, Glenn Beck, is that he was with the girl, they were making out on the beach alone the night before she leaves, just hours away from returning to America and she suddenly goes into convulsions and dies. Instead of calling 911 or rendering aid, he hides her body in some mangrove trees, calls a friend to come dump the body about a mile offshore. That's his story.
 
 GLENN: Okay. Now he says, and I'm just quoting -- I wish I could play the audio but it's -- you know, it's in, you know, wooden shoe language. So he says, "I almost wanted to cry." He said, "She was shaking." And Van der Eem says, "Shaking?" Van der Sloot: Yes, a lot. I almost wanted to cry. Why does this -- expletive -- always happen to me. I mean, first of all his first thought is, me, I wanted to cry because it was happening to me.


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CLINKY / LINKY -A. Powers
 


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/5619/

"One witness is no witness." 

Would the real Daury please step forward? 

Who is witness, besides the now missing Natalee to Joran's story of calling for help?

Funny you should ask.  Interesting discussion, the other day, by Dutch posters at
RU:

 
nickhs wrote March 11, 2008:
While talking to the man with the boat....(him and he in the quote)
"J: So I told him, but if the police come, Deepak and Satish have dropped me of at the beach there, so I will have to talk with them also. Then he said, "Yes, that is true."

What Joran really said on the tape was a loud and clear:
Then SHE said, "Yes, that is true."

As if he was talking to a WOMAN. Now would you make that mistake telling a story to someone else, if it was really a man you were talking to?
Looks like a freudian slip of the tongue.

Also, how could HE know that was true, HE wasn't there when he first said that to Deepak/Satish? But SHE obviously was.


marco  Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:38 pm

You are right.........................
Joran talked about a "she" who helped him......



dugo wrote:

So .. Joran called his mom w/ the "international" phone .. or .. what was Joran fantasising about..



marco  Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZBQsuk3vGA&feature=related

listen to the tape @ 0.40

Joran said: then SHE said, yes that's true.
referring to his"helper"

 

I have my douts that Anita was in Holland.  That is the first groundwork lie they laid.  They made it CLEAR that Anita was not home, was not home until after everything was clear.  Yes, I believed the wee nee calles his mom when he is SKEERED.  He hates women, but is co-dependent on his MOMMIE and resents himself for it.  His Dad was probably off doing his thing while Joran was growing up.  Remember Beth married up with (note the married up, lol) with the slacker after Joran was born.  He was probably not really ready to settle down.  He probably never has been.            jackb