Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4 - 4/11/08

[GBMW]

Hello All   

My trip is complete and thanks for all the warm wishes..It is greatly appreciated as I made it safely and even got my internet hooked up the first day in my new house on a sunday!!

Could someone update me on anything new? TIA

Welcome back! Hope the move went well & you've settled a bit in your new house / surroundings!

[caesu]

the cover of the book:

[Nut44x4]

I find it odd that Diario's online edition hasn't been updated since April 2nd

Me too Klaas...especially after I was told by Aureen, at Diario, everything she told me...I have no problem posting her name at this point...she emailed me, reguesting info...I gave it to her...she shared some back...then...all went dead...so typical of one crappy island...

It's wierd, something isn't right.

Could be that his wife and kids have been threatened. He has 2 beautiful daughters, that I know of. They would be perfect targets for these POS perverted waste of oxygen creeps.

[Blonde]

Sorry I jumped three threads to post this.

Natalee and all of us began to talk about these guys that we had met in the casino the night before and how they had said that they were going to go to Carlos and Charlies also. None of us really had wanted to be around them, but they had come to our hotel and started conversation with all of us.

What GUYS

[Rob]

Sorry I jumped three threads to post this.

Natalee and all of us began to talk about these guys that we had met in the casino the night before and how they had said that they were going to go to Carlos and Charlies also. None of us really had wanted to be around them, but they had come to our hotel and started conversation with all of us.

What GUYS

Morning Blonde - I noticed that also... and I am wondering about all these statements / declarations that seem to magically turn into the older man with glasses and I am wondering if these guys are the guys in the cartoon by Gliberto or Dilberto or whatever the heck his name was. These guys can't be Paulus, could they? He was in Holland, so, he seems to be eliminated.

I hate to say this, but that Mackin account is just ahhh... ahhh... absent of known info and seems to put forth a very small amount of details... like others, I didn't remember the name and wonder - why now?

IIRC and I'm not sure I do, but didn't the MB kids go to CnC previously? and didn't a "Beau" almost get in a fight with Joran? I seem to remember this "Beau" was a football player and 5'-11" and weighted 225 lbs... so it seems to me this did happen or I would remember that many details. It doesn't seem to have happened on the night in question... or I could be wrong.

[Rob]

by the way - the Cyril Wecht jury is deadlocked. This is the case where he is a accused of using county funds and equipment to hold off the costs of his private consulting firm. There are other charges also. Farming out cadavers and stuff like that. The jury is now in day 10 roughly in their deliberations. The judge is not declaring a mis-trial yet.

[Rob]

by the way - the Cyril Wecht jury is deadlocked. This is the case where he is a accused of using county funds and equipment to hold off the costs of his private consulting firm. There are other charges also. Farming out cadavers and stuff like that. The jury is now in day 10 roughly in their deliberations. The judge is not declaring a mis-trial yet.

mis-trial declared.

41 charges will be re-tried.

[klaasend]

Diario still not updated....odd

[Lala'sMom]

Morning monkeys!  I have a  few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.

What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?

What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?   

Thanks!

[Lala'sMom]

Sorry I jumped three threads to post this.

Natalee and all of us began to talk about these guys that we had met in the casino the night before and how they had said that they were going to go to Carlos and Charlies also. None of us really had wanted to be around them, but they had come to our hotel and started conversation with all of us.

What GUYS

Morning Blonde - I noticed that also... and I am wondering about all these statements / declarations that seem to magically turn into the older man with glasses and I am wondering if these guys are the guys in the cartoon by Gliberto or Dilberto or whatever the heck his name was. These guys can't be Paulus, could they? He was in Holland, so, he seems to be eliminated.

I hate to say this, but that Mackin account is just ahhh... ahhh... absent of known info and seems to put forth a very small amount of details... like others, I didn't remember the name and wonder - why now?

IIRC and I'm not sure I do, but didn't the MB kids go to CnC previously? and didn't a "Beau" almost get in a fight with Joran? I seem to remember this "Beau" was a football player and 5'-11" and weighted 225 lbs... so it seems to me this did happen or I would remember that many details. It doesn't seem to have happened on the night in question... or I could be wrong.

If you have ever read any of those 302's you will see how little is in them.  There is very little info to help anyone there...either the FBI did not write down some facts as to keep them unknown or those kids had very little to say or maybe did not recall enough to details to be helpful.

[klaasend]

Morning monkeys!  I have a  few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.

What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?

What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?   

Thanks!

Not sure about the hours Lala's.  Steve was a DJ on the Tattoo.  It's possible that he sometimes drove it as well.  I believe he was supposed to be staying on the Tattoo that night as security and was fired because he wasn't doing his job. 

[Lala'sMom]

Morning monkeys!  I have a  few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.

What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?

What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?   

Thanks!

Not sure about the hours Lala's.  Steve was a DJ on the Tattoo.  It's possible that he sometimes drove it as well.  I believe he was supposed to be staying on the Tattoo that night as security and was fired because he wasn't doing his job. 

Actually, I want to know if he was working the two days before...and how late. 

[Destiny]

Diario still not updated....odd

OK...so I called...was told to use this addy:

http://diarioaruba.com/

[Tamikosmom]

Good Monkey Monkeys

Klaas ... are the 302's (FBI) stored on the site?  If so ... where?

Thank you

Janet
7:30 AM

[AZSunny]

Morning monkeys!  I have a  few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.

What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?

What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?   

Thanks!

Not sure about the hours Lala's.  Steve was a DJ on the Tattoo.  It's possible that he sometimes drove it as well.  I believe he was supposed to be staying on the Tattoo that night as security and was fired because he wasn't doing his job. 

I don't think it has typical "hours of operation".  They offer party cruises, and those type of cruises typically have a day time cruise and a sunset cruise.  I would assume they need a minimum number of guests to conduct the cruise and maybe not be offered every day of the week.  I wonder if their website, if still up states the times?

[AZSunny]

LaLa, I think that Rob went on the Tattoo several years ago, maybe he can help you. 

[Buckeye]

Morning monkeys!  I have a  few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.

What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?

What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?   

Thanks!

Not sure about the hours Lala's.  Steve was a DJ on the Tattoo.  It's possible that he sometimes drove it as well.  I believe he was supposed to be staying on the Tattoo that night as security and was fired because he wasn't doing his job. 

I also remember reading somewhere that the Tatoo had a cleaning crew, that only cleaned after a party, for obvious reasons, and that the DJ was not part of any cleaning crew.  My guess is, that a DJ would not be pulling security detail either.

 

[Rob]

LaLa's - I have been on the Tattoo twice. As I remember you get down to the dock around 7 PM or so. It's just getting dark. Then you hang on the little pier bar until the small shuttle begins to pick up about 20 or so people at a time. So it takes a little while until everyone is on board. I believe about 300 people is the max allowed.

The ship serves a chicken and bean type dinner. The food is ok.. just ok...

and then the ship makes it's way down the coast to the southern area - just a little south of Oranjestad and then returns back to the pier. I would guess the whole trip is about 3 hours. The ship does not move very fast. I do not know how fast it moves, but when there are a lot of waves and high seas, the ship does rock and roll a good bit.

I doubt this ship could be used to make the trip out where the Persistence was hammered. But what do I know LOL...

[klaasend]

Diario still not updated....odd

OK...so I called...was told to use this addy:

http://diarioaruba.com/

Thanks Destiny!  That is their old address/format.  Wonder why?  At least it is updated 

[Rob]

Diario still not updated....odd

I was thinking about this last night... how could they miss the "murder" of the century? this never has happened on Aruba before.

maybe the webmaster is on vacation in Holland and no one else knows the password to get on the site?