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Lala'sMom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
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Quote from: Kermit on April 08, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
And who would have the ultimate seat in which to watch and target said girls? Yep. That would be Steve Croes.
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 01:08:44 PM
My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 12:59:54 PM
A little background on the Aru-bay website. According to the website it was started so that locals could share there videos about Aruba.
These two Tattoo videos were uploaded to the Aru-bay site on April 3, 2005. I find them both very strange:
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Everyone should watch these two videos
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 01:08:44 PM
My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 08, 2008, 10:02:56 AM
Morning monkeys! I have a few quick questions. Maybe someone will know the answers, for some reason I can't ever recall discussing this before, but then again I miss a lot.
What are the hours of operation of the party boat the Tattoo that Steve Croes worked on?
What EXACTLY was Steve Croes job on that boat?
Thanks!
Not sure about the hours Lala's. Steve was a DJ on the Tattoo. It's possible that he sometimes drove it as well. I
believe
he was supposed to be staying on the Tattoo that night as security and was fired because he wasn't doing his job.
We don`t have that answer yet. We are looking into that to see what the boat`s movements were. We do know from the owner, Marcus Williams (sic), that Steve Croes did have a key to the boat. But the owner also tells us that the boat has a special electronic security system on it and he doesn`t believe that Steve Croes would have been able to take the boat without his permission. And he has described Steve Croes as a model employee, Nancy.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 08, 2008, 01:07:09 PM
Mum ... at the time of the firing Steve Croes was a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case. Maybe this suspect status is the reason for the firing ... insurance/bonding purposes. Maybe this is why Wiggin's attorney was present ... to explain the legalities to Steve Croes.
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Aruba Authorities Detail Murder Suspicions
Friday, June 24, 2005
Joran van der Sloot (search) and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are being held under suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
A fourth man, party boat DJ Steve Croes, is being held under the same conditions.
The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160654,00.html
As of December 1, 2005 ... Steve Croes was still a suspect. I have not heard that he was ever released from suspect status.
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WOOD: Well, first of all, you know, the tape that you're playing, the excerpts of this tape from Jamie Skeeters—Deepak Kalpoe on that tape, he admits to the fact that him and Steven Croes are friends, that they're not just acquaintances. He has—he tells Jamie that he has Steven Croes's telephone number programmed into his cell phone..
So let me tell you, yes, Steven Croes is still a suspect.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/
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My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
Klaas...I got a *really bad feeling* watching them...almost...like somewhere in there...I was...looking at a dead person...
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As of December 1, 2005 ... Steve Croes was still a suspect. I have not heard that he was ever released from suspect status.
Janet
thanks for pointing that out...I have never heard he was released either. And van Cromvoirt is approaching the two year deadline also.
I have always wondered how Paulus was released early against the law. Well, I don't really wonder... just think they all jacked what's left of
their system
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 01:08:44 PM
My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
Klaas...I got a *really bad feeling* watching them...almost...like somewhere in there...I was...looking at a dead person...
Yes, I know what you mean. I was hoping an investigator could try and identify some of the women and interview them. My thought was previous victims of drug/rape. I have no idea if anyone really investigated them though.
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As of December 1, 2005 ... Steve Croes was still a suspect. I have not heard that he was ever released from suspect status.
Janet
thanks for pointing that out...I have never heard he was released either. And van Cromvoirt is approaching the two year deadline also.
I have always wondered how Paulus was released early against the law. Well, I don't really wonder... just think they all jacked what's left of
their system
around.
quoting myself... LOL
this makes me wonder - with all the staggered arrest dates, it seems possible to me that Mos is keeping the case open, yet not officially where the term
suspect status
comes in, but in a way to get everyone who was arrested to the two year deadline, and then it's all officially over. They are PRIME SUSPECTS, but not official.
I wonder if the bombshell will come shortly after van Cromvoirt gets his letter?
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My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
Klaas...I got a *really bad feeling* watching them...almost...like somewhere in there...I was...looking at a dead person...
Yes, I know what you mean. I was hoping an investigator could try and identify some of the women and interview them. My thought was previous victims of drug/rape. I have no idea if anyone really investigated them though.
KLAAS...LALAS'
I think these two Aru-Bay vids...should go on the Shango thread too...some very good investigative minds there too...it just seems to *fit*...
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"I heard this guy talking on the phone at the Internet cafe," Steve Croes said. "So my story was like almost exactly as his."
Croes was referring to Deepak Kalpoe, 21, who originally said he and his brother Satish, 18, and their friend Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, drove Natalee Holloway back to the Holiday Inn the night of May 30.
Croes told police he saw the young men drop Holloway off at the hotel.
"So that's why they thought that maybe I was in it," Croes told CNN Wednesday. "But everything that I knew, I just hear it from his voice, when he was talking on the phone."
http://www.handelonthelaw.com/news_details.aspx?News=1072&Date=7/1/2005
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My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
Klaas...I got a *really bad feeling* watching them...
almost...like somewhere in there...I was...looking at a dead person
...
I cannot see what you are seeing. If the person were female ... it could be Tamikosmom attempting to get the last drop of her precious morning coffee from the mug.
Janet
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Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Destiny on April 08, 2008, 01:20:13 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 08, 2008, 01:08:44 PM
My question is, and I don't think it's so far out there, was the Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
I think so Klaas...these vids have a creep factor of 10+...they remind me of something, that would have been produced, by the porn/snuff dude in the movie 8MM...
Exactly. As a matter of fact they creeped me out so much I had Red send them to Natalee's family back in 2005.
Klaas...I got a *really bad feeling* watching them...
almost...like somewhere in there...I was...looking at a dead person
...
I cannot see what you are seeing. If the person were female ... it could be Tamikosmom attempting to get the last drop of her precious morning coffee from the mug.
Janet
ROFL...I'm the same way about my go-juice...I order my coffee from San Fran...make it one pressed cup at a time...savor it...
What I meant by *bad feeling* in watching the vids...is, it actually made my skin *crawl*...that only happens when there is death involved...it's hard to explain...I'm still trying to shake off that feeling...
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Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
Mostly BLONDE'S GIRLS
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My mistake ... I did not realize that the images that Klaas posted were video clips.
Janet
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Tattoo the place where girls were targeted?
Mostly BLONDE'S GIRLS
You saying that from experience, LOL
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My mistake ... I did not realize that the images that Klaas posted were video clips.
Janet
The music chosen for those videos really adds to the creep factor, don't you think?
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 08, 2008, 01:53:45 PM
My mistake ... I did not realize that the images that Klaas posted were video clips.
Janet
The music chosen for those videos really adds to the creep factor, don't you think?
YEP! 8MM all the way...I can tell the a very experienced person made them...I also *feel* that these are excerpts from another vid not posted...JMOO
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 08, 2008, 01:53:45 PM
My mistake ... I did not realize that the images that Klaas posted were video clips.
Janet
The music chosen for those videos really adds to the creep factor, don't you think?
I will let you know in a minute. I will tur on my speaker.
Janet
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