Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4 - 4/11/08

[klaasend]

Silverfox - this probably shows the earrings the best:



There are more photos here:

http://www.hollowaycase.com/

From some of her prom pics, looks like she most likely had those earrings prior to going to Aruba. 

[Tamikosmom]

DAURY RODRIGUEZ

Mystery Man in Holloway Case Comes Forward
Man Named As Accomplice By Van der Sloot Denies Involvement in Aruba Disappearance

By ELIZABETH VARGAS & CHRIS FRANCESCANI
ABC News Law & Justice Unit
ORANJESTAD, Aruba
Feb. 4, 2008

A 21-year old Aruban came forward Monday to say that he is the mystery man that Joran van der Sloot implicated on undercover tapes, but claims that he had nothing to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Daury Rodriguez said he was contacted on Saturday by a frantic biographer of Van der Sloot's who, he said, warned him that his name was about to surface in the press as being the alleged accomplice who took Holloway's body out to sea in a boat and dumped it.

"She said, 'I got your number from Joran, because he said your name is going to show up in the press, but I know it's not true. It doesn't fit the story, so you've got to do something about it. You've got to give me proof [of his whereabouts in May 2005], so I can put it in the newspaper ... here in Holland."

ABC News has obtained exclusive U.S. rights to stunning new information about the case, caught on tape, and will air a 90-minute special edition of "20/20: The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway," Monday at 9:30 p.m. ET.

Rodriguez, who grew up on Aruba and played soccer with Van der Sloot when both men were teenagers, said he was angry that his name had been dragged into the case. He said he met with detectives investigating Holloway's disappearance on Monday morning, and that he told them he was living in Rotterdam, Holland in May 2005, when Holloway went missing.

Rodriguez retained an Aruban lawyer when he realized he was implicated in the case, and said he asked the biographer to put him in touch with Van der Sloot, but she refused.

Van der Sloot apparently logged on to an online instant messaging service over the weekend, and Rodriguez said he confronted him and demanded to know why he'd been named as an accomplice. "So, I was online, and he comes online, and I was like, 'Yo, what's wrong with you, man. Why did you do that?' And he's like, 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't know what I was talking about. I'm so sorry.' And I said, you know, 'What the f---? Sorry? Don't say that! That's [b.s.]. You're putting me in trouble for nothing.'"

Rodriguez said he played soccer with Van der Sloot when the pair were about 16 years old, and that, while he knew him as an acquaintance, he would never call him a friend.

He said they played poker together at a local casino late last year after Van der Sloot was released from his second arrest.

Rodriguez's attorney Chris Lejuez said his client was born in Colombia, but moved to Aruba as a child when his mother married an Aruban man. Lejuez said Rodriguez moved to Rotterdam to attend trade school in 2004, and stayed on through June or July of 2007, working there. Rodriguez returned to Aruba in January and December of 2005 for vacation, but was not on the island for months before or after Holloway's disappearance.

He told ABC News he never owned a boat. "I never had one, and I don't have one,'' he said.

Asked how he could prove his whereabouts during 2005, Rodriguez said that ATMs he had used in Rotterdam could show he was there in May 2005.

Lejuez said he provided investigators with the name of the trade school Rodriguez had attended and the company he later worked for in Rotterdam.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4239135&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4239135&page=2
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4239135&page=3

[Lala'sMom]

Why or who was Daury R. buyng/selling/running drugs for anyway?  How stupid to go to the USA unless...nah!

[klaasend]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

[MumInOhio]

Why or who was Daury R. buyng/selling/running drugs for anyway?  How stupid to go to the USA unless...nah!

Unless...he is Mr X....LOL...and with a name like Rodriguez!!!!

[MumInOhio]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

I wouldn't be shocked!...LOL

 

[Tamikosmom]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

I wouldn't be shocked!...LOL

 

 

Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby
April 6, 2006

TWITTY:  ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/

[Lala'sMom]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

I am wondering if he is related to any Croes? 


FREDDY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH!   

[Lala'sMom]

Why or who was Daury R. buyng/selling/running drugs for anyway?  How stupid to go to the USA unless...nah!

Unless...he is Mr X....LOL...and with a name like Rodriguez!!!!

I think Mr. X has money...lots of money.

[MumInOhio]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

I wouldn't be shocked!...LOL

 

 

Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby
April 6, 2006

TWITTY:  ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/

Freddy knows!

[Tamikosmom]

I wonder if Daury Rodriguez is any relation to Sasha Rodriguez ( the one I believe is Freddy and Ernesto's 1/2 sister)   

I wouldn't be shocked!...LOL

 

 

Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby
April 6, 2006

TWITTY:  ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/

Freddy knows!

 

[Destiny]

www.24ora.com



Some of the comments.  I doubt that last one is really Joran 

Daury pic I've had on file:   


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2240961639_9a7cf563be_m.jpg

[Destiny]

Why or who was Daury R. buyng/selling/running drugs for anyway?  How stupid to go to the USA unless...nah!

Oh come on Lalas'...beans...spill...LOL

[klaasend]

Daury's Hi5

http://www.hi5.com/friend/3664670--Daury--Profile-html

[klaasend]

Destiny - that's Steve Croes 

[WhiskeyGirl]

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I do not believe the search for Natalee is over.  I believe the mapping of targets has been completed.  What remains is to further investigate these items of interest.  The data for the targets belongs to LS.

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The data for the targets may belong to LS but ... what is the point if the search is being conducted with the understanding  that any evidence that may be accumulated is to be to turned over to Aruba.

WhiskeyGirl ... there has to be a chain of custody.  Logic dictates that the Persistance should document, photograph and notorize the find ... the FBI should document, photograph and notorize the find ... prior to releasing it to the Arubans.  Justice for Natalee Holloway demands it.

Think about all the controversy encompassing the "blood" in Deepak's vehicle.  The Aruban Prime Minister said it was blood yet ... the samples of the fabric tested by the FBI lab turned out to be cleaning fluid.

IMO

Janet

+++++++++

Oceanexploration

Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
« Reply #201 on: March 19, 2008, 08:21:47 PM »

We had little option other than to have the Aruban dive division recover the samples and bring them back under their care.  Remember we are Americans working in Aruban waters, subject to their laws, invitation, and blessing.  Our hands are tied for the most part. I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.  The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed:)

I know there should be a chain of custody, but I don't think a criminal case will come of any evidence that is found.  I would love to be wrong.  I'm not sure the Persistence could document the evidence without someone complaining that it was planted or tampered with.  This would mean that even with a body, there would be no case.  imho

I did not see a spirit of cooperation between Aruba and the Persistence with regard to the trap that was investigated.  I was greatly disappointed.  mo

I did see NBC (which I associate with Cohen) have a special on just this one item, which planted doubts in the minds of many about the continuing search efforts...(in my cynical mind, I see this as the 'fix'.)  jmho

I don't know how the competing needs could be balanced.

It astounds me that no one seems to know what happens to the bones that are found on and around the waters of Aruba.  The shoulder bone with tissue really bothers me.  I sometimes think that bone may have been the only thing left of Natalee.  What happened to it?  Why didn't the search at the time focus on that are?  The water?

I was hoping they could just pick up the remains and send them for analysis, bypassing Aruba.  However, in the event they found human remains, would the Persistence and/or crew be charged with improper body disposal or failure to report a body, or failing to report something?

If not Natalee, who was in that trap?  (or, How many different people might be in those targets?)

[MumInOhio]

LOL...I thought I would pop back in to see if you had tarred and feathered me yet,Tamikosmom!

[Destiny]

Destiny - that's Steve Croes 

Duh........slaps own forehead...found it surfing sometime back...it was labeled Daury....maybe it's one of S. Croes ' nicks...wouldn't tthat be sumptin'...

[Tamikosmom]

LOL...I thought I would pop back in to see if you had tarred and feathered me yet,Tamikosmom!

No way.  Freddy would know ... Klaas would interrogate him ... Freddy would plead for mercy and reveal the truth and ... then Klaas would ban me from the Monkey cage.

 

Janet

[klaasend]

LOL...I thought I would pop back in to see if you had tarred and feathered me yet,Tamikosmom!

No way.  Freddy would know ... Klaas would interrogate him ... Freddy would plead for mercy and reveal the truth and ... then Klaas would ban me from the Monkey cage.

 

Janet

NEVER!