Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4 - 4/11/08

[Destiny]

So it is possible that he was arrested late February or the first of March?  Thanks Klaas.

 *segun fbi, daury know more of desaparicion of natalee

 oranjestad (aan): informacion confiable cu daily paper owing to achieve for of merca is cu daury that some time happen owing to worde deteni at merca, as daily paper owing to publica yesterday, is worde sospecha of posesion of 8 kilo of heroin. the acusacion is tell “posesion with the intention to distribute”, then the is worde acusa of posesion of the heroin, cu intencion of trafica. according the informacion, the acusacion is of january year happen, where cu autoridadnan mericano owing to look at the in*

BTW...I'm searching the NY inmate status records....Is Daury a version of David?

TIA Des

Destiny - According to yesterday's (4/10) Diario article, Daury is detained in New Jersey. Apologies if someone already pointed this out.

Thanks...Ms Marple...Ya...got that one cleared up real fast...LOL...

[Destiny]

I tell ya...If there was an award for screwing up quote stacks...I'd be wearing the crown...I'll try better...honest....

[Rob]

Good morning everyone...

I tried the 973 number again this morning and it just rings and rings and rings.. no one answers that number and I'm pretty sure that is a governmental number because no one answers it. That's a sure sign.

I have had a revelation this morning and it's just my opinion, but I believe Hans Mos is certainly corrupt, or has been corrupted. I'm sure of it now.

Daury Rodriguez told Mos to look at his atm record and Mos either didn't or never connected any of the dots. Either way, this guy should not be leading any investigation into the murder, rape and "disappearance" of Natalee Holloway. He's either a bumbling boob, or corrupt, and either way he should not be near any prosecutor's office.

A quick scan of Daury Rodriguez's banking records would have certainly turned up a bunch of transfers that shouldn't be there for a 22 year old college / trade school kid.

That seals the deal for me.... Mos is corrupt.

[Blonde]

I agree Rob we do a better job connecting the dots here on SM then any of those jerks in Aruba.
Why, because we care and we want Justice For Natalee

[nimrod]

Good morning everyone...

I tried the 973 number again this morning and it just rings and rings and rings.. no one answers that number and I'm pretty sure that is a governmental number because no one answers it. That's a sure sign.

I have had a revelation this morning and it's just my opinion, but I believe Hans Mos is certainly corrupt, or has been corrupted. I'm sure of it now.

Daury Rodriguez told Mos to look at his atm record and Mos either didn't or never connected any of the dots. Either way, this guy should not be leading any investigation into the murder, rape and "disappearance" of Natalee Holloway. He's either a bumbling boob, or corrupt, and either way he should not be near any prosecutor's office.

A quick scan of Daury Rodriguez's banking records would have certainly turned up a bunch of transfers that shouldn't be there for a 22 year old college / trade school kid.

That seals the deal for me.... Mos is corrupt.

I'm inclined to think you are right. He fits in real well with the rest of them in Aruba.

[Destiny]

Hmmmmmmmm....found an intersting link...I think it has all the people we've ever talked about listed...it has all their full names...and where they live/local....found this one there:

VAN RIJN-VAN TRAKSEL     ASTRID LOUISE     SAVANETA

Yes....Ramona is there too...she is listed with Noord...

Full link here: http://www.arubachamber.com/LC%20KLEIN%2005-06-2005.htm

[LilPuma]

My take is that this "Daury" still might not have any connection to Natalee that night. What I think MAY be possible is that Joran really screwed up and "blamed" Daury as the "abettor" to the crime (to Patrick).
Daury was the LAST person Joran should have brought into this!
Now Joran has a big time Heroine pusher (and his cohorts) royally pissed at him -- enough for Joran going into SERIOUS hiding.

Yup..I think the Drug Cartel and Angry Dutch people is all he's worried about..Obviously he isn't concerned about being prosecuted for what he did to Natalee..He knows the Government and the "Higher Power's" have his back..


Joran screwed up Big time by putting the spotlight on Daury .. Getting caught with 8 kilos of Heroin in the states is a very long prison sentence..Daury isn't in Chollerstad anymore 

I can't keep up just reading here.  Do we know for sure that the Daury arrested on drug charges is the same guy who gave the interview saying that he had nothing to do with Natalee and Joran? 

No doubt that's why Joran was so scared.  Not so much from vigilantes, but those who covered his ass and now he's implicated Daury.  Anita can stop worrying about "how far the family will go".  She's got bigger bad guys to worry about.  Real bad guys.  The kind who would dispose of a female tourists' body. 

[Rob]

Hi Nimrod and Blonde,

You know these "people" on Aruba don't look like the typical corrupt people we see and instantly know are corrupt. Most of them are wearing suits and police uniforms. The cure for this disease is a tsunami.

Rodriguez is obviously not new to the heroin business and no one just starts out with an 8 kilo shipment. And in the back of my mind I have to think that Universal Air and KLM (we know KLM is involved) are involved somehow. These shipments are moving in and out of Aruba to parts unknown.

Interesting that Gabe Leo popped up to finger point at Rodriguez on the FP yesterday or the day before.

[klaasend]

My take is that this "Daury" still might not have any connection to Natalee that night. What I think MAY be possible is that Joran really screwed up and "blamed" Daury as the "abettor" to the crime (to Patrick).
Daury was the LAST person Joran should have brought into this!
Now Joran has a big time Heroine pusher (and his cohorts) royally pissed at him -- enough for Joran going into SERIOUS hiding.

Yup..I think the Drug Cartel and Angry Dutch people is all he's worried about..Obviously he isn't concerned about being prosecuted for what he did to Natalee..He knows the Government and the "Higher Power's" have his back..


Joran screwed up Big time by putting the spotlight on Daury .. Getting caught with 8 kilos of Heroin in the states is a very long prison sentence..Daury isn't in Chollerstad anymore 

I can't keep up just reading here.  Do we know for sure that the Daury arrested on drug charges is the same guy who gave the interview saying that he had nothing to do with Natalee and Joran? 

No doubt that's why Joran was so scared.  Not so much from vigilantes, but those who covered his ass and now he's implicated Daury.  Anita can stop worrying about "how far the family will go".  She's got bigger bad guys to worry about.  Real bad guys.  The kind who would dispose of a female tourists' body. 

LilPuma - yes same guy.  I've posted alot of the info on Daury and his arrest in this thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2783.0

[MumInOhio]

Hmmmmmmmm....found an intersting link...I think it has all the people we've ever talked about listed...it has all their full names...and where they live/local....found this one there:

VAN RIJN-VAN TRAKSEL     ASTRID LOUISE     SAVANETA

Yes....Ramona is there too...she is listed with Noord...

Full link here: http://www.arubachamber.com/LC%20KLEIN%2005-06-2005.htm

I think that's the third address that I have seen posted...the Tanki one, Madiki 58A from 2004 and I think texasmom posted one she thought was a business address, last night!

[LilPuma]

Thanks Klaas.  I'll go read it.  Gee, he seemed like such a nice guy in his TV interview.   

[dennisintn]

Good morning everyone...

I tried the 973 number again this morning and it just rings and rings and rings.. no one answers that number and I'm pretty sure that is a governmental number because no one answers it. That's a sure sign.

I have had a revelation this morning and it's just my opinion, but I believe Hans Mos is certainly corrupt, or has been corrupted. I'm sure of it now.

Daury Rodriguez told Mos to look at his atm record and Mos either didn't or never connected any of the dots. Either way, this guy should not be leading any investigation into the murder, rape and "disappearance" of Natalee Holloway. He's either a bumbling boob, or corrupt, and either way he should not be near any prosecutor's office.

A quick scan of Daury Rodriguez's banking records would have certainly turned up a bunch of transfers that shouldn't be there for a 22 year old college / trade school kid.

That seals the deal for me.... Mos is corrupt.

isn't nadira's husband's last name rodriguez? 
dennisintn

[Rob]

isn't nadira's husband's last name rodriguez? 
dennisintn

Ramierz - Luis

Hi Ya Dennis

[LilPuma]

I don't understand why Daury was dumb enough to go on television about Joran's statements if he was involved in drugs smuggling.  You'd think he'd want to keep a low profile.  I suppose in Aruba he feels safe from prosecution cause his "boss" is probably in the legal system.  In fact, I like this part about Mama Daury: 

A distraught Ramona Rodriguez-Tejeda, 49, made her first appearance yesterday at Central Judicial Processing Court in Jersey City on drug distribution charges. She could face up to 20 years in prison, said Lt. Mark Kelly, commander of the State Police Drug Traffic Unit in Newark.

She appeared in court via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny and she was so distraught during the appearance that she was later taken away for medical attention. He bail was set at $1 million cash only by state Superior Court Judge Kevin Callahan.

She was probably thinking "this would never happen in Aruba". 

[Magnolia]

Maybe Joran was being vindictive when he named Daury,
and had no idea what can of worms he had opened.
Someone punched Joran in the mouth in the casino after he
was released from KIA in Dec/07.  Daury said that he ran into
Joran in the Casino in December.

[Tamikosmom]

Another thing, possible she was arrested and when questioned about who supplied her with the heroin she said "my wonderful sweet sporter of a nephew Daury".  Then they simply waited for him to come to the US to nab him?

Daury is Ramona's nephew?  I think this makes sense when you consider the following article.  Caps claims that Daury's mother resides in New Jersey but ... the article does not give a New Jersey residence for Ramona.

Ramona could be an aunt or ... there is the possibility that she is not closely related to Daury at all.  There seems to be many Rodriguez' on that island.  The name Rodriguez is intertwined in both Freddy and Deepak's family.

Good Morning Monkeys
8:10 AM

Janet

++++++++++++
 
Authorities seize 8 kilograms of heroin worth more than $500K
10 January 2008

SEACAUCUS, New Jersey. - Authorities seized 8 kilograms of heroin and arrested a woman as part an ongoing probe into a case with suspected international ties.

State Police Lt. Mark Kelly said Ramona Rodriguez-Tejada, 49, was arrested Wednesday as she attempted to board a bus in Secaucus. He says the powdered heroin she allegedly possessed is worth an estimated $520,000 and likely was smuggled through Aruba.

Kelly says the woman is a native of the Dominican Republic, but has Aruban citizenship and addresses in Brooklyn. She’s being held at the Hudson County Jail on $1 million bail.

Authorities believe the case also has ties to Holland and Haiti, and are continuing their investigation.

The reproduction, the redistribution or the syndication of the above text, in whole, part or in any form, requires the prior consent of Associated Press.

http://www.haiti-info.com/spip.php?article4451

[klaasend]

Another thing, possible she was arrested and when questioned about who supplied her with the heroin she said "my wonderful sweet sporter of a nephew Daury".  Then they simply waited for him to come to the US to nab him?

Daury is Ramona's nephew?  I think this makes sense when you consider the following article.  Caps claims that Daury's mother resides in New Jersey but ... the article does not give a New Jersey residence for Ramona.

Ramona could be an aunt or ... there is the possibility that she is not closely related to Daury at all.  There seems to be many Rodriguez' on that island.  The name Rodriguez is intertwined in both Freddy and Deepak's family.

Good Morning Monkeys
8:10 AM

Janet

++++++++++++
 
Authorities seize 8 kilograms of heroin worth more than $500K
10 January 2008

SEACAUCUS, New Jersey. - Authorities seized 8 kilograms of heroin and arrested a woman as part an ongoing probe into a case with suspected international ties.

State Police Lt. Mark Kelly said Ramona Rodriguez-Tejada, 49, was arrested Wednesday as she attempted to board a bus in Secaucus. He says the powdered heroin she allegedly possessed is worth an estimated $520,000 and likely was smuggled through Aruba.

Kelly says the woman is a native of the Dominican Republic, but has Aruban citizenship and addresses in Brooklyn. She’s being held at the Hudson County Jail on $1 million bail.

Authorities believe the case also has ties to Holland and Haiti, and are continuing their investigation.

The reproduction, the redistribution or the syndication of the above text, in whole, part or in any form, requires the prior consent of Associated Press.

http://www.haiti-info.com/spip.php?article4451

Janet - I was just guessing nephew.  Capslock is saying Ramona is Daury's mother.

[Peaches]

Maybe Joran was being vindictive when he named Daury,
and had no idea what can of worms he had opened.
Someone punched Joran in the mouth in the casino after he
was released from KIA in Dec/07.  Daury said that he ran into
Joran in the Casino in December.

Or maybe Joran was just being a big A-hole like usual. 

Personally, the idea that he gets his ass kicked regularly kinda pleases me.   

[LilPuma]

Maybe Joran was being vindictive when he named Daury,
and had no idea what can of worms he had opened.
Someone punched Joran in the mouth in the casino after he
was released from KIA in Dec/07.  Daury said that he ran into
Joran in the Casino in December.

Or maybe Joran was just being a big A-hole like usual. 

Personally, the idea that he gets his ass kicked regularly kinda pleases me.   

Joran hadn't told Patrick about Daury until after he was released in 12/07.  So maybe there was bad blood there about something else that led Joran to throw out his name a month or so later. 

[Destiny]

I just phoned friend at Diario....I had sent some info regarding both heroin busts to her....she told me that it has become one of the lead stories to investiage from their end...she is *very* excited...and will keep me/us posted on anything new from their end...she is also still trying to get info regarding location of Joran from his family and friends...she said a lot of people seem *nervous* about the whole situation...