Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4 - 4/11/08

[Tamikosmom]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

 

I heard it!!!  Despicable!!!

Janet

[Destiny]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

[Tamikosmom]

We had been talking about tennis/aruba and I happened to watch this youtube video. Thought you might like to catch a glimpse of PVDS and Anita .......life goes on ......
at 36 seconds into the video as camera pans left to right you can see paulus in his whites wiping his glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8

I could recognize that hairline anywhere.  Any casnio images?

Janet

Jossy Mansur
Dana Pretzer Show
December 14, 2006

DANA: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?

JOSSY: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.

[bleachedblack]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

My thoughts too. Parents are probably there to support the "sporter". 

[Lala'sMom]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

Aren't they on the same beach Joran claims he left Natalee dead and asked Paulus...I mean Daury to take care of her?  I think so...this tennis thing is at Moombas...and people think they give a rat's patootie about anything...they don't care....they know they are free and clear.  No body...no case...NO WORRIES!

[klaasend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8\

 

[Destiny]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

Aren't they on the same beach Joran claims he left Natalee dead and asked Paulus...I mean Daury to take care of her?  I think so...this tennis thing is at Moombas...and people think they give a rat's patootie about anything...they don't care....they know they are free and clear.  No body...no case...NO WORRIES!

Exactly Lala's!....and, that means to me....*they've done it before*...!

[klaasend]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

My thoughts too. Parents are probably there to support the "sporter". 

Most likely Valentijn.  Also possible that Paulus was playing.  I doubt Anita plays. 

[Destiny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8\

 

 

[bleachedblack]

Actually at about 6:30 into the video when the commentator says "Holloway in the house.....the man from Holloway country" the player in the far right hand court with the long shorts maybe black/white/gray pattern does resemble joran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8

[Tamikosmom]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

BB...that would tie in with my question regarding if it says...JVS...on Paulus' shirt...was wondering if Joran was in competition...and daddy is supporting him....ya know...a family thang...like killing...

Aren't they on the same beach Joran claims he left Natalee dead and asked Paulus...I mean Daury to take care of her?  I think so...this tennis thing is at Moombas...and people think they give a rat's patootie about anything...they don't care....they know they are free and clear.  No body...no case...NO WORRIES!

I can only assume that the VDS' hearts have been hardened by their own selfishness.  In other words ... no conscience ... no empathy regarding the heartbreak of others.

Janet

++++++++++

Hebrews 3:12-14

See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.  But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness.

[bleachedblack]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

[klaasend]

Actually at about 6:30 into the video when the commentator says "Holloway in the house.....the man from Holloway country" the player in the far right hand court with the long shorts maybe black/white/gray pattern does resemble joran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8

You're right, it might be Joran.  This was uploaded November 2007 so it could have been him.

[Tamikosmom]

Actually at about 6:30 into the video when the commentator says "Holloway in the house.....the man from Holloway country" the player in the far right hand court with the long shorts maybe black/white/gray pattern does resemble joran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHjatwPyZR8

You're right, it might be Joran.  This was uploaded November 2007 so it could have been him.

I cannot find a list of players who participated in the November, 2007 tournament.

Janet

++++++++++++++++

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Internationalevents.html

Beach Tennis Event November 2007, was won by Peter Amerika and Robert Boesschoten. It was such a great success, that the Aruba Beach Tennis Foundation is planning another event in the summer of 2008. It will be held on july 19th at Mango's Beachbar @ Zandvoort

[2NJSons_Mom]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

Wondering if Bastiaan vd Sloot is Sebastian????

[Lala'sMom]

I wrote in the Shango thread, that at 6:27 into the clip the commentator says, "Holloway in the house, the man from Holloway country". My ears must be playing tricks.....is joran there? and  are these people  joking with Joran?   

 

I heard it!!!  Despicable!!!

Janet

Actually, the remark is beyond despicable...I just can't find any word that is that low down....if this is really what is said and it was when Joran came up...then no wonder those in Aruba have no regard for life.  Just proves to me what we have known all along.  I wonder if Nancy Grace or some other news person would be interested in hearing that?  They just continue to slap Beth in the face...why is my blood pressure going up?  I would love to be there with a "Stand with the Girl" T-shirt on.  I am angry now...really angry over that comment.

[Lala'sMom]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

Wondering if Bastiaan vd Sloot is Sebastian????

I am thinking yes...doesn't seem to be too many Sloots on Aruba...compare that with all the Croes there. 

[Lala'sMom]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

And please tell me that Paul/Melody are not any people we know! 

[Tamikosmom]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

And please tell me that Paul/Melody are not any people we know! 

 

[bleachedblack]

Ranking Aruba March 2008
Youth advanced:
1 Lukas Steenbakker/David Dias          75 pts
2 Ronald Speyer    30 pts
3 Jean -/Jeantil Saladin    20 pts
     
Fun Kids:    
1 Jelle Groot Antink/Juancito van Leeuwen    30 pts
2 David    25 pts
2 Aaron Speyer/Juanjo    25 pts
3 Bastiaan vd Sloot/Bram vd Scheer    15 pts
3 Emile    15 pts
     
Superkids:    
1 Anne Friederichy/Dominique Huige    25 pts
1 Myron Speyer/Lukas vd Berg    25 pts
2 Mette/Alex    15 pts
2 Nina/Jasper vd Berg    15 pts
3 Simone/Nathan Legger    10 pts
     
Fun Ladies:    
1 Amanda/Ludi vd Vaart     50 pts
2 Xiomara/Maritza    30 pts
3 Esther Huige/Astrid Swaen    25 pts
     
Fun Men:    
1 Paul -/Valentijn v/d Sloot    45 pts
2 Theo de Kool    35 pts
3 Dave Lyon    30 pts
     
Fun mix:    
1 Joe -/Barbara Canton    25 pts.
1 Frido Kraag/Freya Kraag    25 pts
1 Willem / Cora Bant    25 pts
2 Paul/Melody    15 pts
2 Jhon Douglas/Koosje Ketball    15 pts
2 Rutger Ros/ Eline la Croix    15 pts

http://www.arubabeachtennis.com/BeachTennisAruba/Rankingaruba.html

I was also wondering about the Paul/ melody one hmmmmm