Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 - 4/17/08

[Rob]

Hey *******, do you think Ruth Dijkhoff was murdered??? that seems to say two people were murdered on the same day... that only leaves Ruth as the other murdered person.

or the Aruba brain trust mis-reported her cause of death and were confused who died how.. make sense?

[klaasend]

Thanks msmarple!

[msmarple]

This probably has been posted already.

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1543&Itemid=30

Valero plant closing, probably by end of year.

VALERO ENERGY CORP, POR TA CERCA DI BENTA DI NOS REFINERIA       
Friday, 14 March 2008 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Valero Energy Corp cu su base na San Antonio, ta cerca di benta di su refineria “Krotz Spring”, como tambe refineria di Aruba y Memphis.

Esaki segun hefe ehecutivo di Valero Bill Klesse, durante reunion di National Petrochemical and Refiners Association.
Klesse a bisa Reuters news agency cu su compania e ricibi interes di cumpradornan potencial pa plantanan na Ardmore y Paulsboro.

Segun e hefe ehecutivo, muy probablemente pa fin di aña, e refinerianan di Krotz Springs, di Memphis y di Aruba, lo ta bendi.

Online Pap translation:

valero energy corp, can is close of throw of we refineria
friday, 14 march 2008

oranjestad (aan): valero energy corp cu his base at san antonio, is close of throw of his refineria “krotz spring”, because; also refineria of aruba y memphis.

this according boss ehecutivo of valero bill klesse, during meeting of national petrochemical and refiners association.
klesse owing to tell reuters news agency cu his compania the ricibi interest of cumpradornan potencial for plantanan at ardmore y paulsboro.

according the boss ehecutivo, muy probably for end of year, the refinerianan of krotz springs, of memphis y of aruba, will is bendi.

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[Rob]

Thanks msmarple!

and welcome back!!!

[LoRain]

It could just be a broken knife....fixed with duct tape....I don't think the fabric is Natalee's shirt.....IMO....the color green is too dark....

[msmarple]

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1562&Itemid=30

Altercation involving some minors at Oasis Bar. (I keep wondering why minors are at the bars, and then I remember, Oh, Aruba – DUH.)

ATRACADORNAN INSTANTANEAMENTE KIER A CAMBIA MERCANCIA       
Saturday, 15 March 2008 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Den careda di 8’or di anochi, Polis di distrito San Nicolas a bay na altura di Oasis Bar relaciona cu un atraco.

Na yegada polisnan a topa y papia cu e mucha homber di inicialnan A.G.R. naci na Republica Dominicana, y tin 15 aña di edad.
   
E hoben ta splica polisnan cu e tabata canando den cercania e empresa Union Caribe. Un homber kende el a reconoce como un tal “Pudding” y un otro malbado tabatin un cuchio den man. E dos hombernan aki a bisa denunciante bao di menaza pa e entrega su dos cadenanan y su dos renchinan di dede.
   
E hoben denunciante a haye den un skina sin salida y obligatoriamente el a entrega e anti socialnan aki su cadena y tambe e renchinan. Despues di e acto aki, e ladronnan a bisa e hoben victima si e entrega nan 10 Florin nan ta debolbe dos renchi y un cadena.
   
Aki e hoben cu no tabata tin otro forma pa duna e asaltantenan e suma di 10 Florin.
   
E atracadornan a entrega denunciante manera nan a priminti su dos renchi dede fuera e cadena. Despues di e acto aki e dos ladronnan a baha bay.
   
Locual ta e cadena cu e ladronnan a podera di dje tin un balor segun e hoben di 2.000 Florin.
   
E caso ta den man di Recherche y e tal “Pudding” no ta scapa na man di husticia debi cu e hoben victima a reconoce como tal.

Online Pap translation:

atracadornan instantaneamente wanted owing to change mercancia
saturday, 15 march 2008

oranjestad (aan): in careda of 8’or of night, police of distrito san nicolas owing to bay at height of oasis bar relaciona cu one atraco.

at arrival polisnan owing to come across y talk cu the boy of inicialnan owing a.g.r. naci at republica dominicana, y have 15 year of edad.

the young is splica polisnan cu the was canando in cercania the empresa union caribe. one man that past owing to reconoce because; one such “pudding” y one another malbado had one cuchio in hand. the two hombernan here owing to tell denunciante bao of menaza for her entrega his two cadenanan y his two renchinan of finger.

the young denunciante owing to haye in one angle without exit y obligatoriamente past owing to entrega the across from socialnan here his cadena y also the renchinan. after of the acto here, the ladronnan owing to tell the young victima if the entrega they 10 guilder they're debolbe two ring y one cadena.

here the young cu not was have another form for give the asaltantenan the suma of 10 guilder.

the atracadornan owing to entrega denunciante as they owing to priminti his two ring finger fuera the cadena. after of the acto here the two ladronnan owing to descend bay.

locual is the cadena cu the ladronnan owing to podera of dje have one value according the young of 2.000 guilder.

the caso is in hand of recherche y the such “pudding” do not scapa at hand of husticia debi cu the young victima owing to reconoce because; such.

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http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1560&Itemid=30

Just an odd little blurb ...

BASTANTE SOSPECHOSO A PRESENTA NA HUEZ COMISARIO       
Saturday, 15 March 2008 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Ken a bisa cu Aruba no tin problema cu criminalidad?

Diabierna un biaha mas un cantidad grandi di sospechoso a presenta na edificio di corte di husticia na Wayaca, pa scucha si nan detencion lo wordo prolonga of no.

Ta trata entre otro di hendenan acusa di maltrato severo, posesion y traficacion di droga, como tambe ladronicia.

Online Pap translation:

enough sospechoso owing to present at huez comisario
saturday, 15 march 2008

oranjestad(aan): that owing to tell cu aruba not have problem cu criminalidad?

diabierna once more one cantidad big of sospechoso owing to present at edificio of corte of husticia at wayaca, for listen if they detencion will wordo prolonga or not.

is deal among another of hendenan acusa of maltrato severo, posesion y traficacion of drugs, because; also ladronicia.

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[Observer]

Hey *******, do you think Ruth Dijkhoff was murdered??? that seems to say two people were murdered on the same day... that only leaves Ruth as the other murdered person.

or the Aruba brain trust mis-reported her cause of death and were confused who died how.. make sense?

I am very suspicious because she was only 50 and was working at the bank just a couple weeks earlier when she met with Paul Van Der Sloot. It's not like she had a terminal disease or anything so it must have been a sudden death. It makes me even more suspicious seeing Dan Riehl say there were two confirmed murders around the same day. This from a island that procalims itself of having no crime and the safest in the carribean. Who was the second person murdered and was he talking about Sergio Gomez as the missing person? Was he found? Have anymore Mattresses been found soaked in dogs blood the last 34 months?

[msmarple]

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1643&Itemid=30

America tourist drowns at Divi Divi beach.
 

Turista a hoga riba diabierna santo dilanti di Divi Divi       
Tuesday, 25 March 2008

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Un turista cu tabata disfrutando di su vacacion na Aruba a muri hoga diabierna atardi.

E turista di un edad halto kedando na Casa Del Mar tabata na Aruba cu su señora y nan a bay banda di Divi Divi pa disfruta di e lama y beach eybanda. DIARIO a topa cu coordinador di actividadnan na Divi Divi kende a bisa cu nan tin un tarea masha special den e dianan aki pa mustra cada turista riba e peliger di e lama bruto.

Asina mes tin cu tog ta drenta awa y cu tur consecuencia.  E turista for di Merca Francis Pierce a muri hoga y dokter a presenta pa constata morto.
   
Polis y ambulance a ser notifica di e caso aki unda na yegada di ambulans algun turista cu a sake for di awa a cuminsa dune prome auxilio mesora.
Esaki tog no a yuda.
   
E señora a bay mesora na Casa Del Mar pa cuminsa haci e preparacionnan pa e funeraria por manda e curpa back Merca. Paz na su restonan.

Online Pap translation:

tourist owing to hoga on diabierna sand fast of divi divi
tuesday, 25 march 2008

oranjestad(aan): one tourist cu was disfrutando of his vacacion at aruba owing to die hoga diabierna nightfall.

the tourist of one edad high kedando at casa del mar was at aruba cu his madam y they owing to bay near of divi divi for disfruta of the lama y beach eybanda. diario owing to come across cu coordinador of actividadnan at divi divi that owing to tell cu they have one tarea very special in the dianan here for show cada tourist on the danger of the lama bruto.

so self have cu tog is enter water y cu all consecuencia. the tourist for of merca francis pierce owing to die hoga y doctor owing to present for constata dead.

police y ambulance owing to being notifica of the caso here where at arrival of ambulance some tourist cu owing to sake for of water owing to cuminsa dune first help at once. this tog not owing to help.

the madam owing to bay at once at casa del mar for cuminsa haci the preparacionnan for her funeraria can send the curpa back merca. paz at his restonan.

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http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1640&Itemid=30

Man found dead in his doorway at Tanki Leendert; being investigated.

Homber a muri den su cas na Tanki Leendert       
Tuesday, 25 March 2008 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Un homber cu a ser haya morto den su cas na Tanki Leendert a mobiliza autoridadnan mesora. Polis a bay na e adres unda e homber tabata morto casi na entrada mey mey den cas.

Presencia di un dokter a ser pidi y mirando cu no por a saca afor du exactitud di kico e persona a fayece a pone cu Recherché a presenta tambe pa cuminsa un investigacion.

Fiscal tambe a presenta na e adres y a laga confisca e curpa di e homber sin bida pa por analiza y saca afor e motibo exacto di su morto.  Condolencia na famia di e fayecido.

Online Pap translation:

man owing to die in his cas at tanki leendert
tuesday, 25 march 2008

oranjestad(aan): one man cu owing to being achieve dead in his cas at tanki leendert owing to mobiliza autoridadnan at once. police owing to bay at the adres where he was dead casi at entrance mey mey in cas.

presencia of one doctor owing to being ask y mirando cu not can owing to saca afor du exactitud of kico the person owing to fayece owing to place cu recherché owing to present also for cuminsa one investigacion.

fiscal also owing to present at the adres y owing to let confisca the curpa of he without life for can analiza y saca afor the motibo exact of his dead. condolencia at family of the fayecido.

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[msmarple]

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1668&Itemid=30

Man tries to run down his ex-girlfriend (and I think her new boyfriend)) at Baby Beach; others nearby also possibly injured (much blood); apparently D.L. is being charged with attempted assassantion.

Chofer hoben ta worde acusa di intento di asesinato       
Wednesday, 26 March 2008 

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Ministerio Publico a dicidi cu nan ta detene e hoben di inicial D.L., biba na Kudawecha, kende tabata core cu un Nissan Sentra color blanco cu number A-44175, y cu Dialuna anochi laat intencionalmente a bay dal den un grupo di persona para banda di caminda di Baby Beach. Algun rato prome, esnan eybanda mes a conseha e hoben D.L. pa e bay cas.  E tabata hopi furioso riba asunto di celos. 
Nan a bise cu su ex-amiga awor tin un amigo nobo, y esey no a cay den bon tera cerca dje.

E tabata hopi rabia na e lugar, pero famianan a logra domine y a bise pa e bay cas pa asina Diamars nan por papia trankil riba e asunto.
   
Kende por a pensa cu D.L. a hinca den su cabez pa regresa algun rato despues pa asina mik su Nissan Sentra linea recta riba su ex-amiga, y demas hendenan eybanda.
   
Un escena di teror ta loke a reina eybao.  E golpi a laga e personanan herida, y sanger a basha tur caminda.  Publico cu a mira kico a pasa, a duna e chofer un sota, te cu el a keda basta bon herida.
   
Polis a worde informa pa 10:50 p.m. di e caso, y mesora a mobiliza pa e area.  Aki nan a bin haya un situacion caotico, y cu hopi hende eybao benta wardando yudanza medico.
   
A core pidi presencia di Ambulans pa asina transporta e heridonan pa Hospital.  Tambe a pone Recherche na altura pa cuminza investiga e caso di intento di asesinato aki.
   
E persona kende a resulta peor herida, ta e chofer di auto, kende a bay rumbo pa Hospital cu e prome Ambulans.  Despues a trece e otro heridonan, incluyendo su ex-amiga.
   
Ministerio Publico mientras tanto a dicidi na detene e hoben D.L. oficialmente.
   
Riba potretnan pa cortesia di Antoni Gario, por mira mas di e caos cu a reina despues di e incidente lamentable aki.

Online Pap translation:

chofer young is worde acusa of attempt of asesinato
wednesday, 26 march 2008

oranjestad (aan): ministerio publico owing to dicidi cu they're detene the young of inicial d.l., live at kudawecha, that was core cu one nissan sentra color blanco cu number a-44175, y cu monday night late intencionalmente owing to bay strike in one are of person stop near of caminda of baby beach. algun rato first, esnan eybanda self owing to conseha the young d.l. for her bay cas. the was much furious on asunto of celos.
they owing to bise cu his ex-amiga now have one amigo new, y esey not owing to cay in good ground close dje.

the was much angry at the lugar, but famianan owing to succeed domine y owing to bise for her bay cas for so tuesday they can talk trankil on the asunto.

that can owing to think cu d.l. owing to hinca in his cabez for return some rato after for so aim at his nissan sentra linea recta on his ex-amiga, y other hendenan eybanda.

one escena of terror is thing owing to queen eybao. the golpi owing to let the personanan injury, y blood owing to pour all caminda.

publico cu owing to see kico owing to happen, owing to give the chofer one sota, till cu past owing to stay enough good injury.

police owing to worde informa for 10:50 p.m. of the caso, y at once owing to mobiliza for her area. here they owing to come achieve one situation caotico, y cu much person eybao throw wardando yudanza medico.

owing to core ask presencia of ambulance for so transporta the heridonan for hospital. also owing to place recherche at height for cuminza investiga the caso of attempt of asesinato here.

the person that owing to resulta worse injury, is the chofer of car, that owing to bay direction for hospital cu the first ambulance. after owing to trece the another heridonan, incluyendo his ex-amiga.

ministerio publico all the time owing to dicidi at detene the young d.l. oficialmente.

on potretnan for cortesia of antoni gario, can see more of the caos cu owing to queen after of the incidente lamentable here.

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[msmarple]

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1797&Itemid=30

Triple murder of Lampe family, I think in their home ...

Awe nan ta dera famia Lampe       
Thursday, 10 April 2008 

ORANJESTAD (AAN)- Un caso cu a sacudi Aruba y a lage den shock ta e caso di e triple asesinato cu a tuma lugar na Santa Cruz. E mesun anochi e tres curpa a wordo poni den beslag y un ruman a wordo deteni relaciona cu e caso hororoso aki.

Investigacionnan a tuma lugar durante henter weekend, caminda Dialuna atardi durante un conferencia di prensa Huez Mos a declara cu e ruman homber E.L a admiti su culpabilidad relaciona cu e caso aki. Na mes momento tambe nan a entrega e curpanan na e famia.

Awe tardi e acto di entiero di Sr. Juancho, Sra. Aura y Edvard Lampe lo tuma lugar caminda e restonan mortal lo ta reposa for di 1’or di merdia den misa Inmaculata Concepcion na Sta. Cruz.

DIARIO ta manda su sincero condolencia na famianan di e fayecidonan y ta desea nan hopi forza den e dianan cu ta sigui.

Online Pap translation:

today they're bury family lampe
thursday, 10 april 2008

oranjestad (aan)- one caso cu owing to sacudi aruba y owing to lage in shock is the caso of the triple asesinato cu did take lugar at santa cruz. the same night the three curpa owing to wordo poni in beslag y one brother owing to wordo deteni relaciona cu the caso hororoso here.

investigacionnan did take lugar during all weekend, caminda monday nightfall during one conferencia of prensa huez mos owing to declara cu the brother man e.l owing to admiti his culpabilidad relaciona cu the caso here. at self instant also they owing to entrega the curpanan at the family.

today tardi the acto of burial of sr. juancho, sra. aura y edvard lampe will take lugar caminda the restonan deadly will is reposa for of 1’or of afternoon in catholic inmaculata concepcion at sta. cruz.

daily paper is send his sincero condolencia at famianan of the fayecidonan y is desea they much forza in the dianan cu is follow.

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http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1798&Itemid=30

Daury Rodriguez – apparently – interestingly the article never states his last name, or even "Daniel" – detained in America (New Jersey) in connecton with 8 kilos of heroin. That’s 17.64 pounds. (I know this already has been posted.)

Daury ta deteni riba sospecho di posesion di 8 kilo di Heroina       
Thursday, 10 April 2008 
*Droga no a worde haya riba dje sinembargo
*Segun FBI, Daury sa mas di desaparicion di Natalee

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Informacion confiable cu DIARIO a haya for di Merca ta cu Daury kende algun tempo pasa a worde deteni na Merca, manera DIARIO a publica ayera, ta worde sospecha di posesion di 8 kilo di Heroina.

E acusacion ta bisa “Posesion with the intention to distribute”, pues e ta worde acusa di posesion di e heroina, cu intencion di trafica.

Segun e informacion, e acusacion ta di Januari aña pasa, unda cu autoridadnan Mericano a wak e den compania di personanan kende nan tin bista riba dje, relaciona cu traficacion di heroina.
Na momento cu el a bolbe Merca, nan a detene y awor e ta cera na New Jersey.

Riba su persona nan no a haya ningun droga, pero awor cu e ta acusa di posesion di 8 kilo di heroina cu intencion di trafica, e lo por haya un castigo te cu 20 aña, si e worde haya culpable.

Manera ta conoci, Daury su nomber a worde menciona pa Joran van der Sloot, ora cu Patrick van der Eem a puntre ta ken a yude deshaci di e curpa di Natalee Holloway.

Daury mes a bin dilanti mesora pa desmenti esaki y a mustra cu riba dia di desaparicion di e mucha muher Mericano, e tabata na Hulanda.

Sinembargo awor cu e ta deteni na New Jersey, FBI Mericano ta insinua cu Daury di berdad sa hopi mas di e desaparicion di Natalee Holloway, cu el a bisa.

Online Pap translation:

daury is deteni on suspicion of posesion of 8 kilo of heroin
thursday, 10 april 2008
*droga not owing to worde achieve on dje sinembargo
*segun fbi, daury know more of desaparicion of natalee oranjestad

(aan): informacion confiable cu daily paper owing to achieve for of merca is cu daury that some time happen owing to worde deteni at merca, as daily paper owing to publica yesterday, is worde sospecha of posesion of  8 kilo of heroin.

the acusacion is tell “posesion with the intention to distribute”, then the is worde acusa of posesion of the heroin, cu intencion of trafica.

according the informacion, the acusacion is of january year happen, where cu autoridadnan mericano owing to look at the in compania of personanan that they have view on dje, relaciona cu traficacion of heroin.

at instant cu past owing to go back merca, they owing to detene y now the is close at new jersey.

on his person they not owing to achieve none drugs, but now cu the is acusa of posesion of 8 kilo of heroin cu intencion of trafica, the will can achieve one castigo till cu 20 year, if the worde achieve culpable.

as is conoci, daury his name owing to worde menciona for joran van der sloot, hour cu patrick van der eem owing to puntre is that owing to yude deshaci of the curpa of natalee holloway.

daury self owing to come fast at once for desmenti this y owing to show cu on day of desaparicion of the child muher mericano, the was at the netherlands.

sinembargo now cu the is deteni at new jersey, fbi mericano is insinua cu daury of berdad know much more of the desaparicion of natalee holloway, cu past owing to tell.

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[jackb]

another photo

Do the cloth part like that and the other side of the board with the tools.  You will plainly see what I am talking about.  j/b

That little piece does look like net, but the other has definite heats and stripes.  Also looks as if part of some more of the cloth is covereing at least part of a body.  jack/b

OK...I'll give it a shot:

Home made knife....spoon for cooking up....pliers for ?...twisted netting for tying off...guess in the dark...maybe pliers for wrapping in twisted netting for tying off....

Edited to add...handle on home made knife apears/looks like bone....what think you jackb?...just playing in my own mind at this point....

 

Well, Of course I cannot say for sure, but it seems to be a file sharpened with tape.

 (there is writing on the tape where it appears to be grey duct tape.)gray.  Then the, what appears to be tape (white) laying apart from the file or saw wrapped is what appears to be tape (white) with a serrated edge and it seems to be pulled off something that left part of itself attached.  There is writing at the end of the handle of the taped handle (white) (saw, file, knife) and the handle seems mashed together somewhat, and that would mean to me not bone.  I have just given this a cursory look.  jackb 

[Rob]

Hey *******, do you think Ruth Dijkhoff was murdered??? that seems to say two people were murdered on the same day... that only leaves Ruth as the other murdered person.

or the Aruba brain trust mis-reported her cause of death and were confused who died how.. make sense?

I am very suspicious because she was only 50 and was working at the bank just a couple weeks earlier when she met with Paul Van Der Sloot. It's not like she had a terminal disease or anything so it must have been a sudden death. It makes me even more suspicious seeing Dan Riehl say there were two confirmed murders around the same day. This from a island that procalims itself of having no crime and the safest in the carribean. Who was the second person murdered and was he talking about Sergio Gomez as the missing person? Was he found? Have anymore Mattresses been found soaked in dogs blood the last 34 months?

I've never read anywhere reputable that Gomez was found. I know I *heard* some stuff that he was... but I doubt it's true.

As for Ruth, 50 year old women do sometimes die. It happened to a friend of a friend's wife here a few weeks ago.. Brain hemorrhage. She went down on the kitchen floor and died. Age 46. Dead. So, it can happen, but even if Paulus killed her with his bare hands, it would and should be on a bank camera system that he did INDEED GO TO THE BANK TWICE THAT DAY.

and this brings me to the point - if this case was truly to be *solved* it would have happened by now. They claim to have or had an army of investigators working on it... both from Holland and Aruba. Aside from all the conjecture, there are real records and footage from all over, if there was a desire to get this concluded it would have happened by now.... and it makes me believe that we have not identified the person really pulling the strings here.

my guess is the person is indeed in Holland and not on Aruba.

[jackb]

It could just be a broken knife....fixed with duct tape....I don't think the fabric is Natalee's shirt.....IMO....the color green is too dark....

That is because you have not seen it up close, light applied in the shadowed spots, and spread out to see the hearts.  Also some areas not exposed would be darker from dried blood.
j/b

[Observer]

I couldn't help but think of Natalee after I read this..She deserves to be laid to rest and it angers me that so many refuse to let that happen.

[Pita]

Is that a spoiler or just light on the back of Deepak's car? If I remember correctly Jaime or Gregory Tromp had a spoiler.







http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2016.0

It isn't Jamie's car. I've seen a pic of that. Do you have Gregory Tromps car.
This is suppose to be Deepaks car from the survellience video of Diamonds International.

Gregory Tromp's Car

[msmarple]

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1871&Itemid=9

Another windshield incident. Apparently an altercation originating at a night club at Royal Plaza.

MUHER A KIBRA WINDSHIELD DI AUTO DI CASA, Y DESPUES A HAYA MIEDO       
Saturday, 12 April 2008 

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Tabata Diahuebs madruga 2’or, cu e señora di inicialnan B.S. di 27 aña a presenta na warda Oranjestad y a pidi intermediacion. E señora a conta polis problema cu el a confronta cu su casa y pa cual el a destrui e auto.

Teniendo na cuenta y e hecho cu den pasado su casa a maltrate e ta pidi polis compañe pa su cas situa na Sero Patrishi pa asina agentenan papia cu e homber.


E señora acompaña pa polis a presenta na e cas y agentenan a papia cu e homber di inicialnan A.P.

E homber AP di su parti a conta polis, cu su persona y algun amigo a bay celebra su cumpleaño den un night club den Royal Plaza. Señora BS a presenta segun A.P. ta conta y a cuminsa zundra, pleita y despues e muher a bay for di e lugar.

Mas despues AP a sali bay direccion di su auto y el a constata cu windshield di su vehiculo ta destrui.

E loke a socede cu su auto a pone rabia formal y pa cual el a menaza su señora

Polis a intermedia y pa evita mas problema segun e version policial e señora a dicidi di bay drumi cerca casa di su amigo, segun e recorte policial ta menciona.

Online Pap translation:

muher owing to break windshield of car of casa, y after owing to achieve fright
saturday, 12 april 2008

oranjestad (aan): was diahuebs madruga 2’or, cu the madam of inicialnan b.s. of 27 year owing to present at keep oranjestad y owing to ask intermediacion. the madam owing to count ; police problem cu past owing to confronta cu his casa y for cual past owing to destrui the car.

teniendo at cuenta y the mature cu in pasado his casa owing to maltrate the is ask police compañe for his cas situa at hill patrishi for so agentenan talk cu he.

the madam acompaña for police owing to present at the cas y agentenan owing to talk cu he of inicialnan owing a.p.

he ap of his part owing to count ; police, cu his person y some amigo owing to bay celebra his birthday in one night club in royal plaza. madam bs owing to present according owing a.p. is count ; y owing to cuminsa zundra, quarrel y after the muher owing to bay for of the lugar.

more after ap owing to leave bay direccion of his car y past owing to constata cu windshield of his vehiculo is destrui.

the thing owing to socede cu his car owing to place angry serious y for cual past owing to menaza his madam

police owing to intermedia y for evita more problem according the version policial the madam owing to dicidi of bay sleep close casa of his amigo, according the recorte policial is menciona.

[msmarple]

Thanks msmarple!

and welcome back!!!

Yes, I'm sure y'all have missed these incomprehensible recaps of mayhem on Aruba!

[Observer]

I've never read anywhere reputable that Gomez was found. I know I *heard* some stuff that he was... but I doubt it's true.

As for Ruth, 50 year old women do sometimes die. It happened to a friend of a friend's wife here a few weeks ago.. Brain hemorrhage. She went down on the kitchen floor and died. Age 46. Dead. So, it can happen, but even if Paulus killed her with his bare hands, it would and should be on a bank camera system that he did INDEED GO TO THE BANK TWICE THAT DAY.

and this brings me to the point - if this case was truly to be *solved* it would have happened by now. They claim to have or had an army of investigators working on it... both from Holland and Aruba. Aside from all the conjecture, there are real records and footage from all over, if there was a desire to get this concluded it would have happened by now.... and it makes me believe that we have not identified the person really pulling the strings here.

my guess is the person is indeed in Holland and not on Aruba.

Army of Investigators working on Natalees murder? ..lol..40 Investigators in Nov/Dec 2007 and 24 more in February 2008? What a crock! The Dutch took over in Aug 2006 and haven't done a damn thing. They seem to be more interested in blaming Natalee,Her Family and the Media like Hans Mos has stated. None of the prime suspects have even been questioned since the beginning. They refuse to talk or answer any questions and so does the dirtbags in charge of Natalee's case. They arrested Joran on BS new evidence so even the confession viewed by millions wasn't strong enough for him to be arrested or questioned again.

Also if those murders are connected to Natalee I think the Colombian Necktie is a clue who did it.

[Observer]

Thanks Pita! I was looking for that picture..He has a spoiler but it doesn't appear to be that car at all in the security Video..MO

[Kermit]

Is that a spoiler or just light on the back of Deepak's car? If I remember correctly Jaime or Gregory Tromp had a spoiler.







http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2016.0

It isn't Jamie's car. I've seen a pic of that. Do you have Gregory Tromps car.
This is suppose to be Deepaks car from the survellience video of Diamonds International.

Gregory Tromp's Car

Thank you Pita