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« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2008, 11:36:35 PM »

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would this be the connection you are looking for:



You're either well connected, or you wait in line and pay your money," says Ernesto Arambatzis, a promoter of events at the Delano and Mynt, who entered clubland a decade ago through the modeling pipeline.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2004-02-26/news/feature.html
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Knockout Model Agency




Modeling agencies are used sometimes as fronts for illegal corporations



Guido Wever - model
Kelvin Osmond Hally (bad cops son)    - model
Guido Wever - model
Ernesto (freddy's brother) - model
Hiram - model
Jeffrey Werleman - model


Paul Brough -Send pictures and resumes and a video audition that contains the female modeling
swimwear, evening wear ande club scene outfit to:
 Looking for a 20-30 year old female
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In Nov. of 2004, 6 members of Joran's school (ISA) attended the "South American Model United Nations" in Caracas, Venezuela. (SAMUN)

The students were: Joran and Valentijn van der Sloot, Susana de la Oliva, Larissa Bermudez (one of the pretty girls that Joran had pictured on his webpage before it was removed), Michael Pochettino, and Hiram Vrolijk.
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They regularly work for Ronchi’s own agency, Knockout Models.
Ronchi de Cuba’s



Contributing Editor Heleen Bongers
(she is buddies with Julia Renfro)




ok this info need to be put in a safety glass.

Perfecto mundo. this is it. they must use these models to make to movies. Will check in the Emule and Donkeys underworld to see what I can find.
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« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2008, 11:46:45 PM »

Mum,

If you are interested, Glenbert and Junior are here:  http://aroiltradingpartners.com/about_us


AROIL TRADING 
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=33754

Interesting, Glembert own many people on Aruba Money.

Now check also Nelson Oduber, He also has open a bussines, I may recall it was in offshore oil rigging.
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« Reply #122 on: April 15, 2008, 11:56:32 PM »

Capslock - can you tell us what this "breaking news" is about?

Atraco na un cas den Caya Jauncho Kock       
Tuesday, 15 April 2008 - 23:04 
Algun rato pasa a sosode un atraco den un cas di chines den Caya Juancho Kock. E persona nan a wordo mara y atraca. Den algun momento nos lo pone mas informacion y imagen


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4529/8/#jc_allComments
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« Reply #123 on: April 16, 2008, 12:03:08 AM »

CAPS,  Thank you so much for your help.  We know that you have taken a great risk to give us this information.  We do appreciate you and don't you dare go away now that you have given us the answers.
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« Reply #124 on: April 16, 2008, 12:04:18 AM »

See Glenda's (Renfro) response below.  She's claiming Sidney Ponson owes her $80,000???


Posted at RU when asked how you got involved in the case and found RU:

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I blame all my many friends who have traveled to the island AND Sidney Ponson for getting me interested in this case when I heard the name Aruba mentioned.

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Sidney pulled Resigned into this case to do what... I get nothing but critisism from Resigned.... Is is because his Friend Sidney owes Glenda $80,000 ? Hey Pat... Tell Sid to F.Off. And his buddy too that got into gambling debts that was going to be killed if he didn't get the money right away.... Damn Pitchers...

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« Reply #125 on: April 16, 2008, 12:08:49 AM »

Capslock - can you tell us what this "breaking news" is about?

Atraco na un cas den Caya Jauncho Kock       
Tuesday, 15 April 2008 - 23:04 
Algun rato pasa a sosode un atraco den un cas di chines den Caya Juancho Kock. E persona nan a wordo mara y atraca. Den algun momento nos lo pone mas informacion y imagen


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4529/8/#jc_allComments

Algun rato pasa a sosode un atraco den un cas di chines den Caya Juancho Kock. E persona nan a wordo mara y atraca. Den algun momento nos lo pone mas informacion y imagen.

A moment ago, a chineese man was held-up / robbed in his house located in Juancho Kock Street. The person was bound and held-up. soon there will be more info and pictures.
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« Reply #126 on: April 16, 2008, 12:17:47 AM »

Hi Caps 

Who is the Minister that owns Brothels in Venezuela? Jossy mentioned this in his paper and said he would name names and would tell more..But never did..It caught my attention because he said he was angry after Jorans release and mentioned this in regards to Natalee's case. Is it Rudy Croes? We saw early in the case he was nailed for giving work visas to 3 girls from the D.R. who he forced into prostitution and held them against there will(Allegedly) He was in pretty hot water with that country but somehow nothing was ever done. He claimed he put them to work in San Nicolas to paint..lol!
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« Reply #127 on: April 16, 2008, 12:22:42 AM »

Capslock - can you tell us what this "breaking news" is about?

Atraco na un cas den Caya Jauncho Kock       
Tuesday, 15 April 2008 - 23:04 
Algun rato pasa a sosode un atraco den un cas di chines den Caya Juancho Kock. E persona nan a wordo mara y atraca. Den algun momento nos lo pone mas informacion y imagen


http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4529/8/#jc_allComments

Algun rato pasa a sosode un atraco den un cas di chines den Caya Juancho Kock. E persona nan a wordo mara y atraca. Den algun momento nos lo pone mas informacion y imagen.

A moment ago, a chineese man was held-up / robbed in his house located in Juancho Kock Street. The person was bound and held-up. soon there will be more info and pictures.

Thanks Capslock - I couldn't make anything out even with the pap translator 
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« Reply #128 on: April 16, 2008, 12:41:19 AM »

See Glenda's (Renfro) response below.  She's claiming Sidney Ponson owes her $80,000???


Posted at RU when asked how you got involved in the case and found RU:

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Resigned wrote:

I blame all my many friends who have traveled to the island AND Sidney Ponson for getting me interested in this case when I heard the name Aruba mentioned.

Quote
Glenda wrote:

Sidney pulled Resigned into this case to do what... I get nothing but critisism from Resigned.... Is is because his Friend Sidney owes Glenda $80,000 ? Hey Pat... Tell Sid to F.Off. And his buddy too that got into gambling debts that was going to be killed if he didn't get the money right away.... Damn Pitchers...

OG, pay attention.
Shall we venture a guess as to how Glenda Julia has $80,000 to give someone for a gambling debt???  Or a guess as to if actual cash money was paid to have the debt forgiven or perhaps some other "favor" equal to $80,000.  We all know there's nothing that she can do that's worth that........maybe some other money making venture.....
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05063/466292.stm

Baseball Notebook: Ponson's assault case is postponed
Friday, March 04, 2005

By The Associated Press
The assault case against Baltimore Orioles pitcher Sidney Ponson was postponed yesterday in Oranjestad, Aruba, and a judge gave both sides until May 10 to reach an out-of-court agreement.
Ponson, 28, is accused of committing violence alone or in the company of others in public, kicking a person in the head and battering a person by hitting him in the face with his fist. If convicted, Ponson faces a maximum sentence of four years in jail, a fine and community service.
Judge Bob Wit, flown in from the nearby Dutch Caribbean island of Curacao to give the case a sense of impartiality, said he took the pitcher's career into consideration in postponing the case.
Wit said that Ponson's livelihood could be jeopardized if he has a criminal record because his U.S. work visa could be taken away. Ponson was born in Aruba, a semiautonomous Dutch Caribbean territory.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #129 on: April 16, 2008, 12:50:03 AM »

Hi Caps 

Who is the Minister that owns Brothels in Venezuela? Jossy mentioned this in his paper and said he would name names and would tell more..But never did..It caught my attention because he said he was angry after Jorans release and mentioned this in regards to Natalee's case. Is it Rudy Croes? We saw early in the case he was nailed for giving work visas to 3 girls from the D.R. who he forced into prostitution and held them against there will(Allegedly) He was in pretty hot water with that country but somehow nothing was ever done. He claimed he put them to work in San Nicolas to paint..lol!

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Caps may know more about what you're talking about; I remembered this incident with "Booshi Wever" in Venezuela.  I think there was a front page post about it too.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360480
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2008, 12:58:11 AM »

Hi Caps 

Who is the Minister that owns Brothels in Venezuela? Jossy mentioned this in his paper and said he would name names and would tell more..But never did..It caught my attention because he said he was angry after Jorans release and mentioned this in regards to Natalee's case. Is it Rudy Croes? We saw early in the case he was nailed for giving work visas to 3 girls from the D.R. who he forced into prostitution and held them against there will(Allegedly) He was in pretty hot water with that country but somehow nothing was ever done. He claimed he put them to work in San Nicolas to paint..lol!

All these Ministers have dirty secrets.

E.G. Rudy Croes likes to go to Montana Aprt 101, not to far from Joran house and hide his USV behinde the building and so to spend the night with this Colombian Girls. He do forget sometimes how many permit does he give to these chineese business people who hire only colombians bar mate in exchange for cases of Heineken and sexual favors. There is so dirt that even after presure wash it still will not come off.

R.C Job before Minister of Justice was an Laboratory analys of feases. How in the world do you have the expertise to know the legal system of Holland and the world. his capacity is zero. he can not managed on their own and thats why they need so many advisors to help him think. it is an island with 110.000 inhabitant and not 100 million and they can not even managed the small size. go wonder.

Now for Booshi Wever. The man that falsificate his Degree to get a Job in the government and them when he was working in his position applied for government grand to go get the real degree.
The man that go to Venezuela and bought himself a strip join and where he was arrested for drug traficing, he paid his way out the problem with drug money. He forgot that as Healt Minister at least the person in charge should be a person in the medical profession and with a Valid Degree to understant the issues at hand. Watch the news these days of the big scandal comming down in the Money laundring in the Healt system. USA allready arrested Miakito Farro who is accused of money laundring in the Labroratory of the government. Today there the AZV is claiming that the laboratory still own them 7.2 million that was supposed to be paid in 2006 now is 2008 and there is no invoices passed from the Laboratory to be paid to the AZV Insurance company. As shango would say follow the music. to much to mention

TBC.

 
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« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2008, 01:48:21 AM »

Thanks Caps and I love your sense of Humor 

Your saying Candelerio Wever and Booshi are one in the same? I remember he was busted with a ton of coke in Venezuela and 250k which he used to buy his freedom...Makes me wonder if he is related to our gay pimp Guido?
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« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2008, 02:16:19 AM »

Thanks Caps and I love your sense of Humor 

Your saying Candelerio Wever and Booshi are one in the same? I remember he was busted with a ton of coke in Venezuela and 250k which he used to buy his freedom...Makes me wonder if he is related to our gay pimp Guido?

Booshi Wever is his call name but his real name is Calendario Booshi Wever.

the story about the venezuela case is true. The bar is located in Punto Figo near the port off entrance into venezuela. Booshi thinks that he is above the law.. Well think again ....with the same law tape measure he measure the oposations today, and when they will come into power, they will messure him against the same tape. If he is clean, then there is nothing to worried about. But if he is Dirty, there is a broom and a mop waiting him  and the walls are 12 meter high and has 8 secure door to exit.
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« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2008, 03:36:08 AM »

The Night in question, Natalee was brought here.

The pace is called Matty Appartments. There are 6 Apratment in a long row

The Aprtments do not have a number since noboy lives there permanent. The Address is Noort 15-A

It is behind a house and accesavle form the main road, almost 150 meters The Lekker Restaurant.

The night in question, They would not have gone to the WhiteHouse Apartment since it only accept couples and notting else. no group parties. For Paprty one need to use the WhiteHouse Cocktail Lounge.


Now manage the Matty Apartments.

Heidweiller   Carlos R   4/15/1955   Paramaribo   Noord 15A
Heidweiller   Lilian   12/16/1960   Paramaribo   Noord 15A
Heidweiller   Lyndon D   11/12/1964   Paramaribo   Noord 15A

All these people are from Surinam. The guy at the door / office looks like a Hindu


This is a location of where they have gone. That nght. Movie was made in this appartment. Now which Apartment did they use. I do not know. but my guess would be the last one all the way in the back.

Now if you have to make 2 hr movie and she died after that, it would be easy to get rid of the body right there in the murky pool of Monserat. It is just across the street.

and the cleaning of the appartment would have been easy since it is not in view of the street. The house was dusted.

the XTC and the DNA is just accoss from each other.

I still need a name for the escort that provided the service for the deflowering of forbidden fruits that Quido Wever  is part off and the so is Julia Renfro.

See map of the Location.




The Indo Restaurant and V.I.P. Club are next door?  Shocked

Afirmative (YES)


So are these the same row of apts. that the Clausen's (think I remember the name) from CA took pictures of?

Was this called the "Lion's Den"?

If this has already been answered... sorry, am catching up in reading this thread.


Keep up the Good Work, Monkeys. CAPS take care. Don't trust anyone. Be safe!
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« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2008, 04:10:48 AM »

CAPS very interested in your map!

The Lekker restaurant... any tie ins with the gang "Bike" this that is the name
"Bike Lekker Gang" that was first mentioned either on SM or RWV

I see "pipes" marked... since I am way behind on reading this thread... is this important?

IS the path in front of the apts. the only way to get to the Pond? (looks like a path threw the trees)

There was a rumor in the beginning the NH was in a freezer for awhile. Is this why the store is marked?

The Aruban Supreme Court says that Paulus was Natalee at 4 AM (his second time that evening) near the MacDonald's. Are these Apts near there? If she was at the filming in the apts. how long would it take to go from there to the MacDonalds.

Let's see... if she was there, filmed then who gave her the drink at 3 AM
the wine of Baccus?

What is directly behind the apts?  more land or garages?

How old is the map??? for if it is the Lions Den as pictured about 2 1/2 years ago they have cut out much of the vegetation from the back.

OK, say she is in the pond... why hasn't anything surfaced yet? or was she moved from there too? say to the dump or cremation or the ocean?


Reminder to Self: get cable or DSL with Stimulus Package in June!!!! 56k takes hours to read lately.

From a recent translation of yours... I am guessing "den" means "was or had"

if so, going with someone who said Lions are men of the night, and den was had, could the play on words mean "Men had" and the House of Rave could be the store?\

Can't get out exactly what I mean. Need sleep.
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« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2008, 04:15:15 AM »


« Reply #96 on: April 15, 2008, 08:40:54 PM »SS...

A while back CAPS had us looking for an apartment that someone involved in the case owned, but I thought it was near the Raquet Club.  Is this near the Raquet club?   If Anita's mother or Paul's brother answer the phone, then they must live here or own the place.  Wasn't Anita visiting her mother in Holland?  This place must be Paul's little nest where he parties and takes advantage of young girls.
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 SS…An apartment or villa by the Racquet Club was discussed last week, along with the Ponson’s who owned it in 2005. The Racquet Club has had my attention because of the activity there every day after May 29th. , the two people employed by them that were questioned, and one Jorge Porras Sanches/Sanchez. (18 year old or Tennis Pro who also works the Holiday Inn)

This was all posted last week in the other thread, along with copies of the items from the Dr. Phil Log. Lala’s and I have posted many times pondering just what Jorge was petitioning the courts to have returned.

The only response from Caps regarding the Racquet Club has been that he was not on Aruba in 2005. And the only Ponsons I have seen him mention are Sydney and Giovanni.

The Racquet Club was totally remodeled in 2005, there are villa and houses surrounding the Racquet Club, the gardener saw a car and 3 people there, the pimps met there daily in the week following Natalee’s disappearance and ALE picked up Joran from there. (See Kermit’s post from last week from Deepak’s PV)


Will start a thread on the Racquet Club as soon as I finish some research on it.


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« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2008, 04:17:54 AM »

One more thing.  I believe Granny Toad has a background in Anthropology.  She looked at the Venez. bone and felt it was from that monkey/primate that begins with an M... I trust GrannyToad.

Thanks Buckeye for clearing this up...I do too and have saved posts that I run across.
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« Reply #137 on: April 16, 2008, 04:23:14 AM »

You said the Indo Restaurant and V.I.P. Club are next door

OK... I take them to be the two buildings to the left of the apts... It looks as if the buildings have some addons in back... it their workers live there.( in some counties even the US, workers have been known to live in back in good and bad conditions)...If open late at night wouldn't the workers or owners know what goes on in the apts?

Did the back have cameras for that night?

What is all that white stuff and other stuff along the fence of the apts to the right. What kind of business is that? And what is in back of the apts?

Even in the San Fernando Vally, the porno film studio capital, it isn't easy to film without a ruckess and lots of cars, unless come car pooled to the party... hence cars following Joran, Depak and Satish.

Was Paulus the producer and distributer???? Does this area have WIFI?

TIA... now back to catching up.

Wow... some of us codetalkers, lurkers have been here 3 yrs??? Where's Anna? Where's DutchLady?

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« Reply #138 on: April 16, 2008, 04:26:13 AM »

The Night in question, Natalee was brought here.

The pace is called Matty Appartments. There are 6 Apratment in a long row

The Aprtments do not have a number since noboy lives there permanent. The Address is Noort 15-A

It is behind a house and accesavle form the main road, almost 150 meters The Lekker Restaurant.

The night in question, They would not have gone to the WhiteHouse Apartment since it only accept couples and notting else. no group parties. For Paprty one need to use the WhiteHouse Cocktail Lounge.


Now manage the Matty Apartments.

Heidweiller   Carlos R   4/15/1955   Paramaribo   Noord 15A
Heidweiller   Lilian   12/16/1960   Paramaribo   Noord 15A
Heidweiller   Lyndon D   11/12/1964   Paramaribo   Noord 15A

All these people are from Surinam. The guy at the door / office looks like a Hindu


This is a location of where they have gone. That nght. Movie was made in this appartment. Now which Apartment did they use. I do not know. but my guess would be the last one all the way in the back.

Now if you have to make 2 hr movie and she died after that, it would be easy to get rid of the body right there in the murky pool of Monserat. It is just across the street.

and the cleaning of the appartment would have been easy since it is not in view of the street. The house was dusted.

the XTC and the DNA is just accoss from each other.

I still need a name for the escort that provided the service for the deflowering of forbidden fruits that Quido Wever  is part off and the so is Julia Renfro.

See map of the Location.



Caps...This is not the same apartments we discussed previously, the ones that Lala's posted about a couple of pages back. The ones where you said a relative of the Sloots would answer the phone in the Netherlands!

This is not the same map you posted either. Is it even in the same area!
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« Reply #139 on: April 16, 2008, 04:35:24 AM »

CAPS

would this be the connection you are looking for:



You're either well connected, or you wait in line and pay your money," says Ernesto Arambatzis, a promoter of events at the Delano and Mynt, who entered clubland a decade ago through the modeling pipeline.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2004-02-26/news/feature.html
FEb. 26, 2004


Knockout Model Agency




Modeling agencies are used sometimes as fronts for illegal corporations



Guido Wever - model
Kelvin Osmond Hally (bad cops son)    - model
Guido Wever - model
Ernesto (freddy's brother) - model
Hiram - model
Jeffrey Werleman - model


Paul Brough -Send pictures and resumes and a video audition that contains the female modeling
swimwear, evening wear ande club scene outfit to:
 Looking for a 20-30 year old female
_________________________________________________________________

In Nov. of 2004, 6 members of Joran's school (ISA) attended the "South American Model United Nations" in Caracas, Venezuela. (SAMUN)

The students were: Joran and Valentijn van der Sloot, Susana de la Oliva, Larissa Bermudez (one of the pretty girls that Joran had pictured on his webpage before it was removed), Michael Pochettino, and Hiram Vrolijk.
---------------------------------
They regularly work for Ronchi’s own agency, Knockout Models.
Ronchi de Cuba’s



Contributing Editor Heleen Bongers
(she is buddies with Julia Renfro)




ok this info need to be put in a safety glass.

Perfecto mundo. this is it. they must use these models to make to movies. Will check in the Emule and Donkeys underworld to see what I can find.



Freddy....the one we spent hours and about 10 pages discussing a couple of weeks back, only for Caps to tell us he doesn't exist!

FREDDY ALEXANDER ZEDAN ARAMBATZIS IS A MADE UP NAME AN ALIAS...so how can he have a brother? This is what Caps stated on the previous thread and I will not waste time going back to find it)

Sorry Caps...where did you say 7A Catiri is?
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