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« Reply #1260 on: May 01, 2008, 02:12:39 PM »

many teepees spared:
Police: Woman believed to be 'D.C. madam' kills herself
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90CVQ3O2&show_article=1


elders of 'the game' not just of babylon..........

The "game" is far-reaching and continues in many circles/many elites involved.  IMO.

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« Reply #1261 on: May 01, 2008, 02:20:01 PM »

I suspect that these election cycles can be pretty destructive(?)

White House hopefuls digging up the dirt
This just in: Campaigns peddle opposition research against their rivals
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19295680/
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« Reply #1262 on: May 01, 2008, 02:32:14 PM »

One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.
http://www.bradenton.com/breakingnews/story/574637.html


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« Reply #1263 on: May 01, 2008, 03:23:38 PM »

One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.
http://www.bradenton.com/breakingnews/story/574637.html




Probably died with her hand in her pocket.
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« Reply #1264 on: May 01, 2008, 03:26:09 PM »

Liked Blonde’s timeline so much, I thought I would do one with the dates…LOL

6/11….Arrest that didn’t happen

6/12….Freddy Zedan questioned

6/13….Freddy Zedan questioned – 5PM
6/13….Freddy Zedan and Joran face to face – 6.30PM

6/16….Max Arends questioned – not on Log
6/16….Florencia, Koen and Sander questioned
6/16….Freddy Zedan questioned

6/17….Sander, Jaime, Koen and Steve Croes questioned
6/17….Freddy Zedan questioned
6/17….Max Arendz questioned – not on Log
6/17….Lorenzo van Rijn questioned – not on Log

6/28….Luis Ramirez – questioned
6/28….Freddy Zedan questioned
6/28….Carmen questioned – friend of VDS and Zedan
6/28….Lorenzo van Rijn questioned

As best I could tell, these are the order that the interviews occurred. Tamikosmom thinks that there are one or two of Freddy’s statements missing! I agree and think if so it is between 6/17 and 6/28. There is one for 7/1 and one for Joran for 7/3, but Freddy’s next one is 7/20 and Joran’s are 7/9 and 7/16 and one undated.

I have thought that Freddy was a suspect some of this time. And from what I can see  he doesn’t appear to be a suspect after Lorenzo was questioned until the August arrest date. Hmmm!

If Lorenzo and Freddy were not questioned from 6/17 until 6/28, then how does this relate to Simian’s 5th. suspect?  Are thes guys off the hook, because they were not questioned, or did that make Simian implicate them? If Freddy was questioned one or two more times, how does that fit in?

And then there is Koen! If he was in Florida, what could he tell ALE.  Maybe he told them what was on the pizza they ate at Joran’s that one night! Yep…Just read that is what his book said..LOL


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« Reply #1265 on: May 01, 2008, 03:31:30 PM »

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 11:06 am
The important “others” are the ones that supported the alibi.
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« Reply #1266 on: May 01, 2008, 04:14:16 PM »

Since we know that Simian and Merian are most likely the same person...Freddy is implicated in some way.  I have yet to see proof that the famous pic is truly doctored in any way....still waiting for that...and a few other things. 

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« Reply #1267 on: May 01, 2008, 04:59:01 PM »

or framed.....

"they will not sacrifice Steve Croes"
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« Reply #1268 on: May 01, 2008, 05:01:36 PM »

Since we know that Simian and Merian are most likely the same person...Freddy is implicated in some way.  I have yet to see proof that the famous pic is truly doctored in any way....still waiting for that...and a few other things. 






Me, too!  Has CAPS been around lately?   
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« Reply #1269 on: May 02, 2008, 07:20:48 AM »

Since we know that Simian and Merian are most likely the same person...Freddy is implicated in some way.  I have yet to see proof that the famous pic is truly doctored in any way....still waiting for that...and a few other things. 




Just saw last night that the links for pic's of Sasha's 15th. birthday party and the Tickle sites were posted as early as June 19th. 2005. The famous pic would have been on some of the Tickle sites IMO. (The tickle sites were probably out prior this, but saw a post on this with the 6/19 date).

If the famous pic was a fake, then it would have to have been doctored before this time...imo
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« Reply #1270 on: May 02, 2008, 09:23:47 AM »

Vms…I was doing some checking on Armin’s band members and who may be their elders and I am not sure that Arnold Mohamed was in his band in 2005. I found him at another 2005 site.

 Was plodding merrily away and started getting all sorts of security warnings!…Nothing on my virus scan...but I don't know if I want to go back there...LOL

Did find the Chamber Ernst Mohamed as the manager at the Allegro, but that is as far as I have got! So I don't know if he is related to Arnold. (This was where I ran into problems).

Of course I came up with another Florida connection, this is the Boss Racing guy...may be useless info...as I haven't tied him to Derrick...

Aruba   
International Raceway Park Aruba
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Juan Werleman
Mailing Address:
Amerijet International Inc.
3401 A NW 72nd Ave.
Miami, FL 33122
juandwerleman@yahoo.com
 Track: 297-585-5716
Office: 305-593-5500
Fax: 297-584-0065
 
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Just a thought…maybe Freddy plays a Fender as well…


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« Reply #1271 on: May 02, 2008, 09:31:51 AM »

Good morning vms...You are welcome....I have been looking at this post of Mirian's and the macamba appears to me to be a Venezuelan, and the ducks could be the Kalpoes, but may be other Central Americans, possibly Mexican.

Even found a tiny speck while searching macamba that leads to Polamar Venezuela. Hmmmm!


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Veritas veritae
The Simian does not know how the salińa got filled. Do not engage.

The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won't burn their fingers. Enter the macamba to squeel on the black bellied tree ducks.
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« Reply #1272 on: May 02, 2008, 01:37:12 PM »

Since we know that Simian and Merian are most likely the same person...Freddy is implicated in some way.  I have yet to see proof that the famous pic is truly doctored in any way....still waiting for that...and a few other things. 





Hi Mom,

Somewhere, a while back, I recall reading about Freddy.  The article that I was reading referred to him not as Freddy Alexander Zedan, but rather as Fedi Alexander Zedan.  From that point, I always wondered if the name Freddy was a nickname that his friends called him because it sounded more common than Fedi?  Have you ever seen him referred to as Fedi?
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« Reply #1273 on: May 02, 2008, 02:12:44 PM »

Since we know that Simian and Merian are most likely the same person...Freddy is implicated in some way.  I have yet to see proof that the famous pic is truly doctored in any way....still waiting for that...and a few other things. 





Hi Mom,

Somewhere, a while back, I recall reading about Freddy.  The article that I was reading referred to him not as Freddy Alexander Zedan, but rather as Fedi Alexander Zedan.  From that point, I always wondered if the name Freddy was a nickname that his friends called him because it sounded more common than Fedi?  Have you ever seen him referred to as Fedi?


Hi SS...not Mom, but Mum...LOL

One of his nicknames is Fefi...sounds like a poodle!   
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« Reply #1274 on: May 02, 2008, 03:17:43 PM »

Good morning vms...You are welcome....I have been looking at this post of Mirian's and the macamba appears to me to be a Venezuelan, and the ducks could be the Kalpoes, but may be other Central Americans, possibly Mexican.

Even found a tiny speck while searching macamba that leads to Polamar Venezuela. Hmmmm!


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Veritas veritae
The Simian does not know how the salińa got filled. Do not engage.

The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won't burn their fingers. Enter the macamba to squeel on the black bellied tree ducks.


Why was a ‘macamba’ [dutch-born Aruban] not used for the role of Joran?
DIARIO Aruba
4/12/2006

Shonnan [?], I have much admiration and respect towards certain things that go on in Holland, but obviously there are also many things that are onterecht [underserved]…with a lot of emphasis on onterecht!

A few minutes ago, Nederland 2 (AVRO) just aired the program called ‘Opsporing Verzocht’ which dedicated an hour to the matter of Natalee Holloway.

The did a dramatization of the event, which is something very normal (almost) like they always have the habit of doing.

They used a group of blond macamba kids to portray the American students.
 
However, the youngster they used to portray Joran v/d Sloot…wasn’t a macamba! He wasn’t white either, someone who could pass for a Dutch European.

They used an actor completely different, of Aruban appearance, light brown skinned, to pass as Joran.

Why didn’t they use a Macamba?

As well known as this case may be, there are thousands of macambas here who have never heard of this case, and I guarantee you that ALL will think that the suspect must be an Aruban or a non-macamba person! Arubans have to protest against this.

As a television producer, I am extremely obstinate with this. Why didn’t they put a girl of ‘latin’ or Aruban appearance instead of a blond who REALLY could look to be American? Then why didn’t the actor look like a macamba?

Finally, I want to be clear that I have nothing against Joran. I even posed for a picture with him, and I will go as far as saying that for me, Joran is 99.9% innocent.

My problem is with AVRO who always try to use actors who come as ‘close as possible’ in their program, this time put thousands of viewers who don’t know of the case to think that it has to do with an Aruban, or in any case a non-Dutch person, then this is NOT fair.

Alex Alberto
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http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2006_04_09_archive.html

Bon Dia Aruba
4/10/2006

INVESTIGATION
If traced back to the beginning, with the person who started the investigation, Jan v.d. Straten, was the one who was ‘boze dader macamba’ who had a complot with another ‘macamba’ [Dutch born Aruban], Karin Janssen and together they were manipulating and undoing things that were not good. When v.d. Straten retired, she spoke of a positive change. But in an instant, this changed and she continue to turn against local police.
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2006_04_09_archive.html

Ever since I was a kid, the word Macamba was used in a derogatory (sp?) manner to refer to the Dutch folks on the island. Nothing to be proud of but life is that way on most colonially oriented islands and the names for colonial settlers runs the creative gamut. Like I said, "nothing to be proud of". IN any case an interesting thing came up and I wanted to share it with you ...

... It became a derogatory term when it was used in reference to the police (most of whom were Dutch at the time) and from there the word became a rather nasty way to refer to the Dutch colonials. After all, these guys were here to impose law!!

charles
arubafastphones.com
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/word-macamba-1380/

- Macamba - The Guide says the word "refers to a Dutch person or any white person and not meant in a negative way". As a white Americans, we have been specifically told by Bonairean friends that we, as Americans, are not "macambas", and that the term is frequently used in a derogatory manner (as we've witnessed). So, this appears to be a case of wishful thinking instead of reality.
http://tinyurl.com/4s3cej

MadMaster - maandag 18 februari 2008 @ 23:48
On Aruba foreign people and especially Dutch people that stay on the island are also called 'Macamba' (Papiamento) by some of the local people. Not a friendly word, has something to do with the history of Holland at the Antillen, which isn't a nice story either. Aruban people in common don't like foreigners, although it's their main source of income...
http://tinyurl.com/4xqghh

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« Reply #1275 on: May 02, 2008, 03:22:26 PM »

Good morning vms...You are welcome....I have been looking at this post of Mirian's and the macamba appears to me to be a Venezuelan, and the ducks could be the Kalpoes, but may be other Central Americans, possibly Mexican.

Even found a tiny speck while searching macamba that leads to Polamar Venezuela. Hmmmm!


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Veritas veritae
The Simian does not know how the salińa got filled. Do not engage.

The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won't burn their fingers. Enter the macamba to squeel on the black bellied tree ducks.


Black-bellied tree-duck / Black-bellied whistling-duck
http://www1.nhl.nl/~ribot/jpggr/gdeau.jpg

Photo by J.H. Ribot, at the place of the Kalpoe family, Kalpoeweg Suriname 1984. Formerly you could hear large groups of whistling-ducks pass over Paramaribo at night. After much hunting, the groups are normally much smaller now, although groups of thousands can be seen sometimes in March. They are found in lagoons and will feed at night, sometimes in rice-fields. These ducks can be found perching in trees, deserving them the name 'tree-duck'. Nests have been found in holes of mangrove trees, sometimes with many (more than 10) eggs.


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« Reply #1276 on: May 02, 2008, 03:57:12 PM »

Good morning vms...You are welcome....I have been looking at this post of Mirian's and the macamba appears to me to be a Venezuelan, and the ducks could be the Kalpoes, but may be other Central Americans, possibly Mexican.

Even found a tiny speck while searching macamba that leads to Polamar Venezuela. Hmmmm!


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Veritas veritae
The Simian does not know how the salińa got filled. Do not engage.

The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won't burn their fingers. Enter the macamba to squeel on the black bellied tree ducks.


Black-bellied tree-duck / Black-bellied whistling-duck
http://www1.nhl.nl/~ribot/jpggr/gdeau.jpg

Photo by J.H. Ribot, at the place of the Kalpoe family, Kalpoeweg Suriname 1984. Formerly you could hear large groups of whistling-ducks pass over Paramaribo at night. After much hunting, the groups are normally much smaller now, although groups of thousands can be seen sometimes in March. They are found in lagoons and will feed at night, sometimes in rice-fields. These ducks can be found perching in trees, deserving them the name 'tree-duck'. Nests have been found in holes of mangrove trees, sometimes with many (more than 10) eggs.





Finngirl...nice to see you! Thanks for the info! Now if only COLUMBO would respond to my posts that way, I wouldn't be half as confused!

 
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« Reply #1277 on: May 02, 2008, 04:30:44 PM »

ROLL 'EM!!!!
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« Reply #1278 on: May 02, 2008, 04:31:42 PM »

Good morning vms...You are welcome....I have been looking at this post of Mirian's and the macamba appears to me to be a Venezuelan, and the ducks could be the Kalpoes, but may be other Central Americans, possibly Mexican.

Even found a tiny speck while searching macamba that leads to Polamar Venezuela. Hmmmm!


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Veritas veritae
The Simian does not know how the salińa got filled. Do not engage.

The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won't burn their fingers. Enter the macamba to squeel on the black bellied tree ducks.


Black-bellied tree-duck / Black-bellied whistling-duck
http://www1.nhl.nl/~ribot/jpggr/gdeau.jpg

Photo by J.H. Ribot, at the place of the Kalpoe family, Kalpoeweg Suriname 1984. Formerly you could hear large groups of whistling-ducks pass over Paramaribo at night. After much hunting, the groups are normally much smaller now, although groups of thousands can be seen sometimes in March. They are found in lagoons and will feed at night, sometimes in rice-fields. These ducks can be found perching in trees, deserving them the name 'tree-duck'. Nests have been found in holes of mangrove trees, sometimes with many (more than 10) eggs.





Finngirl...nice to see you! Thanks for the info! Now if only COLUMBO would respond to my posts that way, I wouldn't be half as confused!

 

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« Reply #1279 on: May 03, 2008, 08:48:18 AM »

Good morning...LOL at COLUMBO!

Can anyone correct me if I am wrong on any of this…TIA

Rosalie Klein…ex-husband is Captain Jethro Gesterkamp(Octopus)

Works with Julia, Dilma arends, Angela and Chemaly at Bon Dia

Two kids…one Analisa…other a boy – 18 to 20...hmmm...

Wasn’t Margaret Wever also tied to The News?(Maybe there is two of Margaret)

By Rosali Klein, 
The News Aruba
publications Tuesday, March 1, 2005

Passover in Aruba
by Rosalie Klein


I usually report about the Passover Seder and most events for The News, I am always
assigned the holidays, as they know I will be there anyway. This year I took two pictures that each
said a thousand words.

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