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« Reply #1420 on: May 06, 2008, 11:32:46 AM »

I must have missed the answer to this....WHAT IS BULO'S LAST NAME???

I'm not finding anyone with the name Bulo yet. Not first or last or even nickname.

Found the nic posting at a Mercedes site this morning...and a couple of other possibilities...will check again in a bit!

The Star...Kermits' car, the Synagogue - downtown I think, and the apartment buildings...also on the flag IIRC

Hope this isn't a duplicate, but I seem to have lost my earlier reply to the question of Bulo's name.  In a quick search, I did find this post with an obvious connection.  However, if this is Caps' Bulo, it's curious indeed that one of the security guards would be considered the "boyfriend" from "earlier in the week" and my question would be "Whose boyfriend???"  Anyway, here's the post I found:


reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 06:25 AM by TheBandit795

Allright!!! They've freed Maka & Bulo!!! (Those are their nicknames)

www.cnn.com...

Btw... I personally haven't seen it, but I've heard that Bill O'Reilly has spread lots of blatant lies about Aruba. (Slavery for prostitution, big drug base etc...) All blatant lies. More reason to ignore Fox News...


The above post is about half-way down at this link:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread145027/pg4

Guess we'll have to wait for Caps to clear up the mystery of Bulo's identity.....

My best to all of you.



They released the security guards on June 13.  So I guess that means that Mickey John could be Bulo?  Interesting thought anyway.
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« Reply #1421 on: May 06, 2008, 11:33:41 AM »

I must have missed the answer to this....WHAT IS BULO'S LAST NAME???

I'm not finding anyone with the name Bulo yet. Not first or last or even nickname.

Found the nic posting at a Mercedes site this morning...and a couple of other possibilities...will check again in a bit!

The Star...Kermits' car, the Synagogue - downtown I think, and the apartment buildings...also on the flag IIRC

Hope this isn't a duplicate, but I seem to have lost my earlier reply to the question of Bulo's name.  In a quick search, I did find this post with an obvious connection.  However, if this is Caps' Bulo, it's curious indeed that one of the security guards would be considered the "boyfriend" from "earlier in the week" and my question would be "Whose boyfriend???"  Anyway, here's the post I found:


reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 06:25 AM by TheBandit795

Allright!!! They've freed Maka & Bulo!!! (Those are their nicknames)

www.cnn.com...

Btw... I personally haven't seen it, but I've heard that Bill O'Reilly has spread lots of blatant lies about Aruba. (Slavery for prostitution, big drug base etc...) All blatant lies. More reason to ignore Fox News...


The above post is about half-way down at this link:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread145027/pg4

Guess we'll have to wait for Caps to clear up the mystery of Bulo's identity.....

My best to all of you.




Thanks Tess...very interesting...wonder which is which?
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« Reply #1422 on: May 06, 2008, 11:37:26 AM »

I must have missed the answer to this....WHAT IS BULO'S LAST NAME???

I'm not finding anyone with the name Bulo yet. Not first or last or even nickname.

Found the nic posting at a Mercedes site this morning...and a couple of other possibilities...will check again in a bit!

The Star...Kermits' car, the Synagogue - downtown I think, and the apartment buildings...also on the flag IIRC

Hope this isn't a duplicate, but I seem to have lost my earlier reply to the question of Bulo's name.  In a quick search, I did find this post with an obvious connection.  However, if this is Caps' Bulo, it's curious indeed that one of the security guards would be considered the "boyfriend" from "earlier in the week" and my question would be "Whose boyfriend???"  Anyway, here's the post I found:


reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 06:25 AM by TheBandit795

Allright!!! They've freed Maka & Bulo!!! (Those are their nicknames)

www.cnn.com...

Btw... I personally haven't seen it, but I've heard that Bill O'Reilly has spread lots of blatant lies about Aruba. (Slavery for prostitution, big drug base etc...) All blatant lies. More reason to ignore Fox News...


The above post is about half-way down at this link:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread145027/pg4

Guess we'll have to wait for Caps to clear up the mystery of Bulo's identity.....

My best to all of you.



They released the security guards on June 13.  So I guess that means that Mickey John could be Bulo?  Interesting thought anyway.


Some thought at one time that he could have been involved in some way. IIRC he did hang around the hotels.
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« Reply #1423 on: May 06, 2008, 11:40:15 AM »

Now, Mum...would he really fit the criteria for the "boyfriend"?  Party at his house...etc? 
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« Reply #1424 on: May 06, 2008, 11:41:59 AM »



SS…let me ask you one question…

If I post the Freddy Zedan owns the Indo/Lion’s Den are you going to just take my word for it?

 Caps posts that the Kalpoes - the father or the stepfather, he never did answer which one, according to a girl there, now own it!

You can certainly take what Caps says without questions, but I will not. So please do not repost Caps post to me....Show me the proof!

 I have read everyone of Cap’s post at least three times…each day I type out an index…you would be very surprised what you see on the third read.

All I am trying to say is what you are posting from Caps is not what he said in January!

I am 99% sure as to why he switched to the Indo apartments…the answer is in one of your last few posts…and I will leave it at that!

And yes Lala’s…I am extremely frustrated…seems we have involved just about everyone on Aruba…new names are dropped every week.…I never see Joran’s name in this thread anymore!!!!!

And everytime Caps appears we have more questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COLUMBO has a word for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #1425 on: May 06, 2008, 11:48:12 AM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.
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« Reply #1426 on: May 06, 2008, 11:54:18 AM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.

Yes I did...dots, specks, but the house was dusted...

Just a thought…seeing the pimps all had nics and these were asked about in the PVs…

Is this why the SGs were arrested? Did they get the wrong Bulo?

If they wanted to pin it on a SG named Bulo, they easily could have! They had them in jail.

Maybe it is time to make a list of knicknames and see who is missing one!


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« Reply #1427 on: May 06, 2008, 12:01:17 PM »

Who is Bulo?  Who is Dtkhm?  Who is Mito? How do they fit in to this?  Who owns the Indo?   Which apartment?  What happened to the Whiehouse ones that were near Joran's home?  What is Freddy's real name?  How does VP fit in with the kidnapping plot?  Who is behind the kidnapping plot?  Why does everyone have a doppleganger down there? Why did they arrest Guido?  Who is that in casino video if not Paulus? Which place did they take Natalee?  Who took her?  Joran?  Kalpoes?  Why is Rudy Croes in the middle of it all?  Was Loegese posts right on?  Was there enough time to take Natalee to this place and then wait until they gave her back to Joran?  What vehicle was Paulus driving when he was seen at the McDonalds at 4 AM?  Where is the proof that Paulus made an ATM transaction that morning?  Why is van der Straaten no longer the DH?  How did that happen? Why should Ben King be considered a DH?  Who is the Arawak DH?  Where is Lorenzo?  Who is he anyway?  Which Lorenzo is he?  How many people actually live at 7A Catiri?  Why do so many places have so many different addresses?  That is the most messed up place on the planet. Yes, these questions brought to you by a stupid grannie that only speaks English. Sorry, frustrated today...
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« Reply #1428 on: May 06, 2008, 12:02:29 PM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.

Yes I did...dots, specks, but the house was dusted...

Just a thought…seeing the pimps all had nics and these were asked about in the PVs…

Is this why the SGs were arrested? Did they get the wrong Bulo?

If they wanted to pin it on a SG named Bulo, they easily could have! They had them in jail.

Maybe it is time to make a list of knicknames and see who is missing one!




How will you know you have the right nickname to go with the right person? 
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« Reply #1429 on: May 06, 2008, 12:05:01 PM »

LMAO! I think everyone has left us grannies in here to argue with each other.  (I know you are not a granny either, just joking.)
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« Reply #1430 on: May 06, 2008, 12:15:03 PM »

Who is Bulo?  Who is Dtkhm?  Who is Mito? How do they fit in to this?  Who owns the Indo?   Which apartment?  What happened to the Whiehouse ones that were near Joran's home?  What is Freddy's real name?  How does VP fit in with the kidnapping plot?  Who is behind the kidnapping plot?  Why does everyone have a doppleganger down there? Why did they arrest Guido?  Who is that in casino video if not Paulus? Which place did they take Natalee?  Who took her?  Joran?  Kalpoes?  Why is Rudy Croes in the middle of it all?  Was Loegese posts right on?  Was there enough time to take Natalee to this place and then wait until they gave her back to Joran?  What vehicle was Paulus driving when he was seen at the McDonalds at 4 AM?  Where is the proof that Paulus made an ATM transaction that morning?  Why is van der Straaten no longer the DH?  How did that happen? Why should Ben King be considered a DH?  Who is the Arawak DH?  Where is Lorenzo?  Who is he anyway?  Which Lorenzo is he?  How many people actually live at 7A Catiri?  Why do so many places have so many different addresses?  That is the most messed up place on the planet. Yes, these questions brought to you by a stupid grannie that only speaks English. Sorry, frustrated today...


Lots of questions there Lala's...did you ever get those 18 others answered?

I thought I found some-one the other day to fit the Arawak king...but now I am too confused to remember.

The dopplegangers...misinformation by Julia, Rosalie, Tito to name a few? Or maybe we have run into their driver's license scandal! The mixed up names...Lorenzo Wever etc.

I think Aruba has been playing a game and these bods were sent out to confuse. Mixed up names. And I still can't figure out how Guido Wever, the frumpy one was working in a casino! Didn't he still go to school? He was an intern at the Racquet Club, bet he knew the Santos boys, Sander, Koen and the Arends tennis kid really well! Joran, Freddy they all went to the Racquet Club...can't quite figure how the Kalpoes got in with that group.

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« Reply #1431 on: May 06, 2008, 12:21:10 PM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.

Yes I did...dots, specks, but the house was dusted...

Just a thought…seeing the pimps all had nics and these were asked about in the PVs…

Is this why the SGs were arrested? Did they get the wrong Bulo?

If they wanted to pin it on a SG named Bulo, they easily could have! They had them in jail.

Maybe it is time to make a list of knicknames and see who is missing one!




How will you know you have the right nickname to go with the right person? 


Put them in a hat! May be more reliable than what we have now!

Wonder what Sander's and Val's are? Beto is only two letters shy of Bulo!!!
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« Reply #1432 on: May 06, 2008, 12:31:24 PM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.

Yes I did...dots, specks, but the house was dusted...

Just a thought…seeing the pimps all had nics and these were asked about in the PVs…

Is this why the SGs were arrested? Did they get the wrong Bulo?

If they wanted to pin it on a SG named Bulo, they easily could have! They had them in jail.

Maybe it is time to make a list of knicknames and see who is missing one!




How will you know you have the right nickname to go with the right person? 


Put them in a hat! May be more reliable than what we have now!

Wonder what Sander's and Val's are? Beto is only two letters shy of Bulo!!!

Well wonderful...that brings Jaime in the equation now. 
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« Reply #1433 on: May 06, 2008, 12:37:47 PM »

Where is Colombo anyway?  I have missed him lately...he's not been around to confuse me. LOL

Did you see the post about the Aru Bay videos on the NAH?   More dots to connect. ( Oops..I mean the NCD)  Sorry about that.

Yes I did...dots, specks, but the house was dusted...

Just a thought…seeing the pimps all had nics and these were asked about in the PVs…

Is this why the SGs were arrested? Did they get the wrong Bulo?

If they wanted to pin it on a SG named Bulo, they easily could have! They had them in jail.

Maybe it is time to make a list of knicknames and see who is missing one!




How will you know you have the right nickname to go with the right person? 


Put them in a hat! May be more reliable than what we have now!

Wonder what Sander's and Val's are? Beto is only two letters shy of Bulo!!!

Well wonderful...that brings Jaime in the equation now. 

Always had that window a little open...No Freddy and no Jaime on that Saturday and Sunday night! But Luis and Joshua were there on Sunday night, at the HI and C&Cs.
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« Reply #1434 on: May 06, 2008, 12:39:49 PM »

Tyler...Nice to see you...You have been missed.
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« Reply #1435 on: May 06, 2008, 01:49:48 PM »

I am going to ask again....WHO IS BULO?
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« Reply #1436 on: May 06, 2008, 03:13:41 PM »

CapsLockWizard wrote;

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Now two years before 2005 this girls was in Aruba, and she knew Bulo already. now she came to aruba and she spend the first part of the week with Bulo, on the night in C&C she was with Bulo entering and exiting the place several times.

My guess is if Bulo was known ,and possiubly hanging around (at C+C's) in 2003 then he was probably older than many of the the PIMPS. That limits the possibility to SC, Jaime, Lorenzo....
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« Reply #1437 on: May 06, 2008, 03:16:14 PM »



SS…let me ask you one question…

If I post the Freddy Zedan owns the Indo/Lion’s Den are you going to just take my word for it?

 Caps posts that the Kalpoes - the father or the stepfather, he never did answer which one, according to a girl there, now own it!

You can certainly take what Caps says without questions, but I will not. So please do not repost Caps post to me....Show me the proof!

 I have read everyone of Cap’s post at least three times…each day I type out an index…you would be very surprised what you see on the third read.

All I am trying to say is what you are posting from Caps is not what he said in January!

I am 99% sure as to why he switched to the Indo apartments…the answer is in one of your last few posts…and I will leave it at that!

And yes Lala’s…I am extremely frustrated…seems we have involved just about everyone on Aruba…new names are dropped every week.…I never see Joran’s name in this thread anymore!!!!!

And everytime Caps appears we have more questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COLUMBO has a word for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





You asked how CAPS came up with the Matty Apartments and  I simply brought his posts forward in the thread.  I don't assume that everything that CAPS has told us is absolutely correct.  I, too, have many questions such as the parents of Steve Croes, whether Hendrick is Rudy's brother or uncle, a second Alabama girl involved, and who is Giovanni Solognier.  I do know that CAPS seems to have a lot of information that we don't have and I am more than willing to listen.  He has certainly given us a lot of new information the past few months and I for one, appreciate that.  I don't know if all of the information is factual.  I know that a lot of the previous information that we do have references and quotes for has unfortunately turned out to be disinformation.  Time will tell.  Many times we are finding ourselves back at square one as we learn new information.  I am personally very interested in the pond for several reasons.  It is near a location that has been pinpointed since Beth and Dave first arrived on Aruba, there have been many references to it from our cryptic guests, TES was interested enough to scan the bottom of the pond, and now there seems to actually be some official investigative activity.  It's more than we have from any of our other information and resources right now, including Joran's confession and Patrick. I am willing to follow CAPS on this one.  He has had some very correct information like Daury Rodriguez's arrest.  It might be an absolute wild goose chase, in which case I will beat him with a banana.  I just have a gut feeling that there is something in that pond.  It might only be a size 14 sneaker, but it's a step in the right direction.  I have also thought that maybe CAPS can't divulge all of his sources of information.  It looks like he gets some of it from registries, libraries, and even local gossip.  He could very well be working for Renfro or AHATA and eventually we'll find out.  Right now, I guess that I'm just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Something is going on at that pond.
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« Reply #1438 on: May 06, 2008, 03:24:22 PM »



SS…let me ask you one question…

If I post the Freddy Zedan owns the Indo/Lion’s Den are you going to just take my word for it?

 Caps posts that the Kalpoes - the father or the stepfather, he never did answer which one, according to a girl there, now own it!

You can certainly take what Caps says without questions, but I will not. So please do not repost Caps post to me....Show me the proof!

 I have read everyone of Cap’s post at least three times…each day I type out an index…you would be very surprised what you see on the third read.

All I am trying to say is what you are posting from Caps is not what he said in January!

I am 99% sure as to why he switched to the Indo apartments…the answer is in one of your last few posts…and I will leave it at that!

And yes Lala’s…I am extremely frustrated…seems we have involved just about everyone on Aruba…new names are dropped every week.…I never see Joran’s name in this thread anymore!!!!!

And everytime Caps appears we have more questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COLUMBO has a word for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





You asked how CAPS came up with the Matty Apartments and  I simply brought his posts forward in the thread.  I don't assume that everything that CAPS has told us is absolutely correct.  I, too, have many questions such as the parents of Steve Croes, whether Hendrick is Rudy's brother or uncle, a second Alabama girl involved, and who is Giovanni Solognier.  I do know that CAPS seems to have a lot of information that we don't have and I am more than willing to listen.  He has certainly given us a lot of new information the past few months and I for one, appreciate that.  I don't know if all of the information is factual.  I know that a lot of the previous information that we do have references and quotes for has unfortunately turned out to be disinformation.  Time will tell.  Many times we are finding ourselves back at square one as we learn new information.  I am personally very interested in the pond for several reasons.  It is near a location that has been pinpointed since Beth and Dave first arrived on Aruba, there have been many references to it from our cryptic guests, TES was interested enough to scan the bottom of the pond, and now there seems to actually be some official investigative activity.  It's more than we have from any of our other information and resources right now, including Joran's confession and Patrick. I am willing to follow CAPS on this one.  He has had some very correct information like Daury Rodriguez's arrest.  It might be an absolute wild goose chase, in which case I will beat him with a banana.  I just have a gut feeling that there is something in that pond.  It might only be a size 14 sneaker, but it's a step in the right direction.  I have also thought that maybe CAPS can't divulge all of his sources of information.  It looks like he gets some of it from registries, libraries, and even local gossip.  He could very well be working for Renfro or AHATA and eventually we'll find out.  Right now, I guess that I'm just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Something is going on at that pond.
I Totally Agree SS! 
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« Reply #1439 on: May 06, 2008, 03:34:44 PM »

 From Abraham Jones statement of 06/05/05. Does "Bolo"=Bulo?


On your question who I worked with on my shift, I answer you the following:
I work with the arubaan "J. MADURO" and the grenadaan "Mickey JOHN" nicknamed "Bolo". The three of us worked together on Monday, May 30, 2005.
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