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« Reply #1480 on: May 07, 2008, 06:19:14 PM »

2NJSons maybe you didn't read back far enough but I did quote the larger text of what was written. My point is that I think everyone should read what started out as the first post ....there was some prior discussion about a certain posters original posts, and  one I quoted is clear. I do not veil my words and try to say what i mean, and clearly as my past here documents I have tried not to get into a personal squabble...well except maybe once...make that twice..... specifically what the above quote I posted means is pretty clear.....that is all plain and simple.


"Envy:
Their desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation. (Beth $16000.00 open bill in Aruba while they have to pay for them self. otherwise they would not bring it out)

Gluttony:
Their inordinate desire to consume and drink more than that which one requires. (Lets go To Aruba, Talk Some $hit and see if we can be Comp by the hotel for a short fame while drinking and eating.

Lust:
There is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body. (see how much Tattoo they have) "
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« Reply #1481 on: May 07, 2008, 06:35:15 PM »

2NJSons maybe you didn't read back far enough but I did quote the larger text of what was written. My point is that I think everyone should read what started out as the first post ....there was some prior discussion about a certain posters original posts, and  one I quoted is clear. I do not veil my words and try to say what i mean, and clearly as my past here documents I have tried not to get into a personal squabble...well except maybe once...make that twice..... specifically what the above quote I posted means is pretty clear.....that is all plain and simple.


"Envy:
Their desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation. (Beth $16000.00 open bill in Aruba while they have to pay for them self. otherwise they would not bring it out)

Gluttony:
Their inordinate desire to consume and drink more than that which one requires. (Lets go To Aruba, Talk Some $hit and see if we can be Comp by the hotel for a short fame while drinking and eating.

Lust:
There is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body. (see how much Tattoo they have) "


I did read back and saw your original, and yes, did understand that you noted the clarity of the post.  When you reposted a snippet, I thought I had misunderstood and then strayed to thinking you thought Caps was referring to someone else.  I thought about it for a good portion of the afternoon before posting, and only did so after researching the thread the post came from.

That said, I have noticed the differences in posts, as well...

Peace.....(no squabble here)
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« Reply #1482 on: May 07, 2008, 06:46:10 PM »

No squabble here either BB...just trying to make sense of Your post.....that's All! 
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« Reply #1483 on: May 07, 2008, 10:29:56 PM »

I thought this Prayer was appropriate right now.....seeing how We all need to work together for Natalee...to All MY Monkey Friends


Prayer for Friendship


You have blessed us, O God,
with the gift of friendship,
the bonding of persons
in a circle of love.
We thank you for such a blessing:
for friends who love us,
who share our sorrows,
who laugh with us in celebration,
who bear our pain,
who need us as we need them,
who weep as we weep,
who hold us when words fail,
and who give us the freedom
to be ourselves.
Bless our friends with health,
wholeness, life, and love.
Amen.


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« Reply #1484 on: May 07, 2008, 11:34:05 PM »

I thought this Prayer was appropriate right now.....seeing how We all need to work together for Natalee...to All MY Monkey Friends


Prayer for Friendship


You have blessed us, O God,
with the gift of friendship,
the bonding of persons
in a circle of love.
We thank you for such a blessing:
for friends who love us,
who share our sorrows,
who laugh with us in celebration,
who bear our pain,
who need us as we need them,
who weep as we weep,
who hold us when words fail,
and who give us the freedom
to be ourselves.
Bless our friends with health,
wholeness, life, and love.
Amen.


- Vienna Cobb Anderson
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1485 on: May 07, 2008, 11:53:33 PM »

I thought this Prayer was appropriate right now.....seeing how We all need to work together for Natalee...to All MY Monkey Friends


Prayer for Friendship


You have blessed us, O God,
with the gift of friendship,
the bonding of persons
in a circle of love.
We thank you for such a blessing:
for friends who love us,
who share our sorrows,
who laugh with us in celebration,
who bear our pain,
who need us as we need them,
who weep as we weep,
who hold us when words fail,
and who give us the freedom
to be ourselves.
Bless our friends with health,
wholeness, life, and love.
Amen.


- Vienna Cobb Anderson
Thanks for posting the Friendship Prayer Hotping, it was a very thoughtful thing to do!
 
You're Welcome TM! 
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« Reply #1486 on: May 08, 2008, 02:34:17 AM »

Dear Monkeys,

I see that all have a lot of queston.

Who is Bulo. Bulo is the Nickname of Lorenzo Van Rijn. He was the first that was detain for questioning & not arrested. (was never in the news because of his association with other bigshot in ALE) so that never hid the news.
Two days later they went to his mama house and there he desided to colobrorate with the ALE.

What ever his story was to the upper ALE force, they needed a fallguy and they went to the Color guys. BTW they fo not have nicknames. Who was the first to give them nick names? the NEWS.

Then came Joran and the 2 kalpoes and from here it all turned into a media circus, but with the help of the news.

Follow the Star.: comming from Brickel Hotel on a straight path (road) to the first Star (A chinesee Restuarant) to the banks (gold bars) then make a left on the road where it is not paved.

Matty Apartment.: After Researching what the commun form to do a quicky is in Aruba, and from strategic elimination process and with the help of someone that work the escort industry, who lead me to the kalpoe father that owns the VIP club who's in the back there is an access to the appartments (6) where one will do a quicky where it is just of a coincidance is accross the street of the Monserat pond.

The only one that has change his way of operation is Matty. Now Matty the owner died long time ago, but this place is run by the Kalpoes famaly but they are not the only one with keys. The one that runs the News also has key to this apartments.

How far is it from McDonald. Just walk back to the Star and Mc Donnald is there across the street.

DH: the problem with this is that Freedom means a lot to everyone and one will like to loose it even if you are inocent. The only person in Dutch Law that has the power to take that from a person is a Prosecuter. He then present his case and a Judge will decide your fate with the evidance (Fact or none Fact) presented by this man.

Hans Mos is a prosecuter and is on the list. Judges are on the list. This man is not on the list but he is the one that will build your case (for a guilty or not guilty outcome). Caps loves his Freedome. DANGER ZONE HERE. Have got a photo (Patient)

Rising sun: This is the Lodge of the "Sol Naciente". It is the lodge of the Dutch Mason in Aruba. Go to this place and do a research  http://www.vrijmetselarij.net/el_sol_naciente/ the VIP club or Lions Den belong to these people. they use the VIP club.

News: got email from the DH (not Dirty hand)

History: It was 3 day before Christmas and my dad and I were talking how strange that this girl has vanished from the radar and no one knows where she is. I google "Where is natalee" and it brought me to this place called SM and I read summery and then I remeber as a kid how I lost a brand new sneaker. Imaging comming home with one sneaker missing and telling dad that I lost it. Where? in the pond. (as a kid No one are allowed to go to these ponds due to if you feed get stuck in the mud and the sneaker is not tied down, it will stay in the mud when you tried to free one foot. in the past some kid drown becuase it is fresh water and do not have bouyence and when some one fell in, and when touch bottom, you feed will sink and get stuck.

back to the sneaker, you can not never find it since it will sink, and with time the mud will coverit up.
in day time you can not see it becuase the water is murky and dark. (It is gone for ever till the pond dried up and then you have to go and search for it under the mud.

I wrote my analysis and from that first analysis I build my foundation to start the next level of fact findings.

The Riddle is there but it can not be solve without a local guide. SM has a lot brains that has help.

CAPS


 


 
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« Reply #1487 on: May 08, 2008, 02:40:04 AM »

Caps first post from January 18, 2008. I might add that the English is very good and easy to read.....

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Klaas, I believe you have left out some important ones.

Pride:

Their excessive belief in their own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity. ( they have not been Recognised by the Holloway's)

Envy:
Their desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation. (Beth $16000.00 open bill in Aruba while they have to pay for them self. otherwise they would not bring it out)

Gluttony:
Their inordinate desire to consume and drink more than that which one requires. (Lets go To Aruba, Talk Some $hit and see if we can be Comp by the hotel for a short fame while drinking and eating.

Lust:
There is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body. (see how much Tattoo they have)

Anger
This is manifested in the individual who spurns love (lies of loving) and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath. They say they are anger that the Holloway's have build this case on a foundation of lies. by at the same time lets enjoy the the rest of the seven sins.

Greed:
this is their desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. (they said that they can read and work with the spirit, another BS) It is also called Avarice or Covetousness. ( They said that they not doing it for money, but I bet you that the seven sins tells you different)

Sloth:
is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work. (if they were so spiritual, they would have solve the case a long time ago) even the FBI do not believe in the



BB,

     I have suspected all along that CAPS is also another poster in this forum. There is a marked difference in the English abilities of the two posters.  I came up with a pretty simplistic conclusion that it was because of the information that was being imparted. Some of what CAPS has revealed to us, is huge.  I just hope that CAPS will return and continue to help us.  He has given us so much information and it's information that we could never have acquired outside of Aruba.  I personally doubt that the Shango riddle is the accurate scenario of what happened that night, but I think that there are big elements of truth in it.  I agree with LaLa that it definitely shields Joran.  I do know that if the guilty parties are exposed through us or anywhere else, they are going to start to do a dance and the truth will eventually surface.  We really need CAPS and others like him to help us expose the perps.  I also believe that there are Arubans who want to expose the perps. I don't want to see these people chased away.  Destiny is placing an ad asking for more help.  We have someone who is already here and willing to help us.  We also need to be patient with personalities.  Not everyone is focused on detail and documentation.  A right-brained thinker can be very frustrating to a left-brainer.
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« Reply #1488 on: May 08, 2008, 02:40:07 AM »

Dear Monkeys,

I see that all have a lot of queston.

Who is Bulo. Bulo is the Nickname of Lorenzo Van Rijn. He was the first that was detain for questioning & not arrested. (was never in the news because of his association with other bigshot in ALE) so that never hid the news.
Two days later they went to his mama house and there he desided to colobrorate with the ALE.

What ever his story was to the upper ALE force, they needed a fallguy and they went to the Color guys. BTW they fo not have nicknames. Who was the first to give them nick names? the NEWS.

Then came Joran and the 2 kalpoes and from here it all turned into a media circus, but with the help of the news.

Follow the Star.: comming from Brickel Hotel on a straight path (road) to the first Star (A chinesee Restuarant) to the banks (gold bars) then make a left on the road where it is not paved.

Matty Apartment.: After Researching what the commun form to do a quicky is in Aruba, and from strategic elimination process and with the help of someone that work the escort industry, who lead me to the kalpoe father that owns the VIP club who's in the back there is an access to the appartments (6) where one will do a quicky where it is just of a coincidance is accross the street of the Monserat pond.

The only one that has change his way of operation is Matty. Now Matty the owner died long time ago, but this place is run by the Kalpoes famaly but they are not the only one with keys. The one that runs the News also has key to this apartments.

How far is it from McDonald. Just walk back to the Star and Mc Donnald is there across the street.

DH: the problem with this is that Freedom means a lot to everyone and one do not like to loose it even if you are inocent. The only person in Dutch Law that has the power to take that from a person is a Prosecuter. He then present his case and a Judge will decide your fate with the evidance (Fact or none Fact) presented by this man.

Hans Mos is a prosecuter and is on the list. Judges are on the list. This man is not on the list but he is the one that will build your case (for a guilty or not guilty outcome). Caps loves his Freedome. DANGER ZONE HERE. Have got a photo (Patient)

Rising sun: This is the Lodge of the "Sol Naciente". It is the lodge of the Dutch Mason in Aruba. Go to this place and do a research  http://www.vrijmetselarij.net/el_sol_naciente/ the VIP club or Lions Den belong to these people. they use the VIP club.

News: got email from the DH (not Dirty hand)

History: It was 3 day before Christmas and my dad and I were talking how strange that this girl has vanished from the radar and no one knows where she is. I google "Where is natalee" and it brought me to this place called SM and I read summery and then I remeber as a kid how I lost a brand new sneaker. Imaging comming home with one sneaker missing and telling dad that I lost it. Where? in the pond. (as a kid No one are allowed to go to these ponds due to if you feed get stuck in the mud and the sneaker is not tied down, it will stay in the mud when you tried to free one foot. in the past some kid drown becuase it is fresh water and do not have bouyence and when some one fell in, and when touch bottom, you feed will sink and get stuck.

back to the sneaker, you can not never find it since it will sink, and with time the mud will coverit up.
in day time you can not see it becuase the water is murky and dark. (It is gone for ever till the pond dried up and then you have to go and search for it under the mud.

I wrote my analysis and from that first analysis I build my foundation to start the next level of fact findings.

The Riddle is there but it can not be solve without a local guide. SM has a lot brains that has help.

CAPS


 


 

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« Reply #1489 on: May 08, 2008, 02:51:20 AM »

Dear Monkeys,

I see that all have a lot of queston.

Who is Bulo. Bulo is the Nickname of Lorenzo Van Rijn. He was the first that was detain for questioning & not arrested. (was never in the news because of his association with other bigshot in ALE) so that never hid the news.
Two days later they went to his mama house and there he desided to colobrorate with the ALE.

What ever his story was to the upper ALE force, they needed a fallguy and they went to the Color guys. BTW they fo not have nicknames. Who was the first to give them nick names? the NEWS.

Then came Joran and the 2 kalpoes and from here it all turned into a media circus, but with the help of the news.

Follow the Star.: comming from Brickel Hotel on a straight path (road) to the first Star (A chinesee Restuarant) to the banks (gold bars) then make a left on the road where it is not paved.

Matty Apartment.: After Researching what the commun form to do a quicky is in Aruba, and from strategic elimination process and with the help of someone that work the escort industry, who lead me to the kalpoe father that owns the VIP club who's in the back there is an access to the appartments (6) where one will do a quicky where it is just of a coincidance is accross the street of the Monserat pond.

The only one that has change his way of operation is Matty. Now Matty the owner died long time ago, but this place is run by the Kalpoes famaly but they are not the only one with keys. The one that runs the News also has key to this apartments.

How far is it from McDonald. Just walk back to the Star and Mc Donnald is there across the street.

DH: the problem with this is that Freedom means a lot to everyone and one will like to loose it even if you are inocent. The only person in Dutch Law that has the power to take that from a person is a Prosecuter. He then present his case and a Judge will decide your fate with the evidance (Fact or none Fact) presented by this man.

Hans Mos is a prosecuter and is on the list. Judges are on the list. This man is not on the list but he is the one that will build your case (for a guilty or not guilty outcome). Caps loves his Freedome. DANGER ZONE HERE. Have got a photo (Patient)

Rising sun: This is the Lodge of the "Sol Naciente". It is the lodge of the Dutch Mason in Aruba. Go to this place and do a research  http://www.vrijmetselarij.net/el_sol_naciente/ the VIP club or Lions Den belong to these people. they use the VIP club.

News: got email from the DH (not Dirty hand)

History: It was 3 day before Christmas and my dad and I were talking how strange that this girl has vanished from the radar and no one knows where she is. I google "Where is natalee" and it brought me to this place called SM and I read summery and then I remeber as a kid how I lost a brand new sneaker. Imaging comming home with one sneaker missing and telling dad that I lost it. Where? in the pond. (as a kid No one are allowed to go to these ponds due to if you feed get stuck in the mud and the sneaker is not tied down, it will stay in the mud when you tried to free one foot. in the past some kid drown becuase it is fresh water and do not have bouyence and when some one fell in, and when touch bottom, you feed will sink and get stuck.

back to the sneaker, you can not never find it since it will sink, and with time the mud will coverit up.
in day time you can not see it becuase the water is murky and dark. (It is gone for ever till the pond dried up and then you have to go and search for it under the mud.

I wrote my analysis and from that first analysis I build my foundation to start the next level of fact findings.

The Riddle is there but it can not be solve without a local guide. SM has a lot brains that has help.

CAPS


 


 


Thank you for your help CAPS.  You are very much appreciated and your information has been so helpful to us.  Please stay with us. 
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« Reply #1490 on: May 08, 2008, 03:23:48 AM »

I will not go anywhere.

but like a said before, I am (we all) are at the berlin wall and as we chip and chip away we will break trough.

Now the center string is LORENZO (Bulo) - VIP CLUB / MATTY APARTMENT - and a Natalee Look alike (douppleganger)

then came the two Hatians --->to blame someone to gain time

Then came the Dutch and the Surimans --->to safe some face and power of the LAW

In all this there is the NEWS (Renfro) and a Crap Dealer (Wever) and a DJ (Steve Croes), Lawyer and prosecuter etc.

and all happend from a 10 day vacation + another 10 day after the desapear of natalee.

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the first 10 day, there was Paul, Lorenzo+ Guido Waver + girls

the other 10 day, there was a girl missing, Lorenzo, Casino boy, Joran + Steve croes + Kalpoes


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« Reply #1491 on: May 08, 2008, 04:47:39 AM »

CAPS, you have my mind racing.    If Paulus picked Joran up at MacDonalds at 11:00 that night, it could be very possible that Joran and the others had been setting up the video party at the nearby Matty Apts.  Paulus and other adults could also have been there helping.  They knew that the MB girls would be at C&Cs because they had discussed it at the casino earlier in the day.  Joran returned home and was then picked up by the Kalpoes for a ride over to C&Cs where they snatched Natalee and brought her back to the waiting party-goers, who were being entertained by Guido's poker cards. They had probably done this before - maybe 20 times as Joran said.   Paulus's second trip to MacDonalds at 4:00 could have been to help Lorenzo with Natalee's body because they had called him, or he could have been there all along and that's the time when he left and also went to the bank.

I have never been big on the kidnap theory, but if Bulo (Lorenzo) knew one of the MB girls from the past, he could have placed a request with brother Joran to return from C&Cs with a specific girl, who could have been Haleigh or Virginia.  Perhaps Lorenzo had been gilted and wanted a little revenge.  There was also talk of one of the girls owing money.  Maybe one of these girls owed Lorenzo money for a drug purchase earlier in the week.  If Joran couldn't entice or find Lorenzo's first choice or she was already gone (Virginia), then maybe he went for Natalee because she had shown an interest in him and he was under pressure to return with a girl, because Freddy's cameras were ready to roll.  In this way, the kidnap story makes a little more sense to me.  Natalee probably was not the original intended plan.

The people from The News who were holding the keys would have to be Renfro and/or Chemaly.  Freddy's numerous videos could have been marketed through a dark aspect of Renfro's photography interests.  It could have been her side business and she might have even owned the equipment.  She also owns the water sports company that has Wave Rhinos that are inflatable and would easily fit in the back of Lorenzo's van with his huge speakers.  I posted a picture of one a while back.  Steve Croes could have helped with this.  Joran could have lost his shoe in the mud while helping to launch the inflatable boat.  They could also have used the cage from the fisherman's shacks because the one that Dr. Hughes described was not very large.  The cage could be in the pond.  Steve Croes would have known that the cage was there because he spent a lot of time on that beach.  Dompig's son also worked on that same beach.  I posted pictures of him partying there and using the water sports boats.

Once something happened to Natalee that night, the Kalpoes probably went home and started cleaning out the car of any evidence that she had been in there, while the others disposed of her body.  The Kalpoes left Joran at the beach with Natalee
(by the pond, not the ocean).  The Internet activity began and Deepak changed the computer clocks to establish the alibi.

The coverup began when Beth unexpectedly arrived and started demanding answers.  Paulus and adult friends were either directly involved and/or had kids that were involved.  The higher powers at ALE started covering for each other and the rest is history.  The disinformation was probably put out there by Renfro to protect everyone involved and herself. By escorting Beth around the island, Renfro could make sure that Beth never went near the Matty apartments, the pond, or anyone who was involved. Evidence from Natalee could also have been placed at various places on the island to intentionally throw everyone off - the tape???

These are just my thoughts based on what CAPS has just given us and what we have been researching for the past few months.  LaLa and Mum, please come back and help us work through this.  This is a massive coverup of some very visible and important people in Aruba.  There aren't going to be a lot of facts to document, because most of this has no doubt been covered up and we have intentionally been given disinformation.  We are going to have to rely on sources like CAPS to do the best that they can to give us the information that they are getting from others.  The people who know first hand what happened aren't going to help us.  The information from The News isn't going to be correct.  We didn't even know that Lorenzo was the first one questioned, because Renfro didn't release it.

ALE knows exactly what happened that night.  I have no doubt that the FBI and the Dutch know exactly what happened.  The problem might just be proving it under those bizarre Dutch laws.  Those involved knew how to destroy evidence from the very beginning.  Those involved need to be exposed in hopes that someone will crack and start to sing like a canary, or big evidence that can't be disputed needs to be found.  Hopefully they will find something in Manserat.
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« Reply #1492 on: May 08, 2008, 05:09:26 AM »

I will not go anywhere.

but like a said before, I am (we all) are at the berlin wall and as we chip and chip away we will break trough.

Now the center string is LORENZO (Bulo) - VIP CLUB / MATTY APARTMENT - and a Natalee Look alike (douppleganger)

then came the two Hatians --->to blame someone to gain time

Then came the Dutch and the Surimans --->to safe some face and power of the LAW

In all this there is the NEWS (Renfro) and a Crap Dealer (Wever) and a DJ (Steve Croes), Lawyer and prosecuter etc.

and all happend from a 10 day vacation + another 10 day after the desapear of natalee.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

the first 10 day, there was Paul, Lorenzo+ Guido Waver + girls

the other 10 day, there was a girl missing, Lorenzo, Casino boy, Joran + Steve croes + Kalpoes





CAPS,

I am completely confused by what you have just said.  Are you saying that there were actually two video parties where MB girls were involved?  Is this why Virginia left the island early?  Was Haleigh (sp) the unwilling victim of a Lorenzo/Guido/Paulus production during a previous trip to Aruba?  Please be more specific with this information.  What does news and an email from DH mean?
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« Reply #1493 on: May 08, 2008, 06:33:46 AM »

After my last post it appears that some reading back may be in order! And maybe Caps can explain how he has posted previously on Ben Vocking, see my last post and there are more, but yesterday he didn't have a clue who he was!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.760


« Reply #763 on: April 24, 2008, 03:41:57 AM » Caps   
 
It 3:30 exactly. After reading the boek The Return of Dr. Nikola, I have these 2 question?

The motive. this was a crime to prove something, and it has to do with the new ICC in Holland. It is a gamble to break the US constitution. Some one had to die that night. it got to do with this court.

Now the next person  is the key Mr Vonk or what ever his name was. It was his Plan.

VMS: Will check in the morning on Luis Oduber. Have received answer but all are asking me the question "The one that use to own a restaurant".

Source will check with Directie Finance in the Morning.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.780


« Reply #768 on: April 24, 2008, 04:11:02 AM » Caps   
 
I need all Info about the KING becasue he is the man


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.800

« Reply #800 on: April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM » MumInOhio   
 
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

« Reply #818 on: April 24, 2008, 02:30:09 PM » Caps   
 
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps

I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

« Reply #819 on: April 24, 2008, 02:36:57 PM » 2NJSons

Did you try 'Vocking'???

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.820

   
 « Reply #820 on: April 24, 2008, 02:39:56 PM » Caps   
 
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 24, 2008, 02:30:09 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps
I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

Mum
Caps...I am not sure what you are saying...sorry! I thought we were talking about Ben Vocking who changed his name to Ben King! He was at KIA and I think now has another government job, possibly OM's office, but I honestly don't recall. Is this who you are asking about? TIA




« Reply #823 on: April 24, 2008, 03:03:34 PM » Caps   
 
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on April 24, 2008, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 24, 2008, 02:30:09 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

Mum
From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps
I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

Did you try 'Vocking'???

Mum
Thanks...2NJSons...it was posted originally this morning as Vocking and in my post I missed the 'c'...maybe that is where Caps is confused...I know I am!

Caps
ok
now we are talking

Vocking   Bernardus FC               1/14/1948   Nijmegen   De La Sallestraat 14
Vocking, geb. de Droog   Anna MJ   6/3/1959             Amsterdam   De La Sallestraat 14

The man and the wife.












Well, I will say that I know the FACE of the man since 2002-2004 where he was driving arround in his small VW in the area where they are selling prostitution. I my research on The Man came from a person that know The Man very well and when I was posting the info's, he provided me with all the Info add that time from the Pictures I have showed to Him.

Now at 3:30 am I said What I said because my eyes and my brain was very tired but he came to mind the more I read the riddle. Now The Man had many diffrent name and one of it is Jaguar = Hunter, Benny, Benancio, King, The Man, etc. and for that reason I said "what ever his name is" becuase the more you search about this man one will find all kinds of stories and which part of these volumes of stories do we need.

VMS:

Also about the Yellowhammer vs Merian and not to confuse with the poster name Merian Ernest.

The Yellowhammer = Virginia and Merian = Natalee

The Yellowhammer flow Away and Merian DNA will be washed away with the Horacain Emily

Now for the YellowHammer to be Natalee, the it would be Natalee that flow Away, and Virginia'S DNA that is in the pond.

Question?
where is Virginia Page?


Also the introduction to the Kiwanis info came from some one that deal with this man in KIA. He worked for him and he confirm also that The Man stinks like onion. Poor Hygene.

So where is Jaguar


This is a previous discussion about Ben VocKing. Below are 2 of Caps older posts regarding VocKing. So in February and March Caps knew who VocKing was, but not on April 25th.

Somewhere back around page 40 Caps posted a key in which he includes a pic of VocKing. You will notice that Caps refers to a picture of Voking in his response above.

Around pages 45 and 46 there is much discussion about the photo of VocKing and which is the correct one. The photo of VocKing that Caps included in his key and showed to the man who knew him very well is not of the person we determined to be VocKing.

This is why I ask questions…




http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg357646#msg357646


« Reply #2958 on: February 29, 2008, 04:35:29 PM »

It is interesting to know how things are turning in live.

Ben King did order many Abuse situation on Alex they forget that people will get out of jail one day. and tell the horror put on him.

This time the coins has flipped and now is the Judge and the son that has done something that he can not walk away. This is not a domestic abuse case but a Murder. They will use all the tactical tricks to find a way to save there A$$.

I know know thats why he left these clues like Art. 41 and The 46 court etc.

I wonder how many years he has to serve in the USA.

BTW in USA he might have computer access. it is the norm in europian jails, maybe someone post it for him.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.160

« Reply #179 on: March 26, 2008, 01:47:03 PM »

Now here is my way of thinking or seeing this.

Prosecuter Duetekom is not on list list,

Maybe The singing man song is not on the list,

Duetekom good friend with Paules and King. they are the one that deal
with the issue of Alex Mathew in KIA.

On the night in question, maybe the siging mausic man saw Deutekom,
but could not point him out from the list.

The singing man song was not on the list.

CAPS.
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« Reply #1494 on: May 08, 2008, 06:41:12 AM »


These posts of Caps have been etched in mind since March. Another reason I ask questions.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.400


« Reply #402 on: March 31, 2008, 09:43:21 AM »   
 
In Aruba, some one has run wild with that story, who is that person or a news organistation,

Now lets examine this virgin statement. If it is a lie that mary was a virgina and that lie has been found who is to loose in this game

there will be two looser, one is beth and the wone that play with that peace of information

« Reply #408 on: March 31, 2008, 10:14:42 AM »   
 
For those with the rev4 manual

item item 83 and 84

item 84 will close this book almost

Alibi = beth lie

« Reply #409 on: March 31, 2008, 10:31:04 AM »

Quote from: CapsLockWizard on March 31, 2008, 10:14:42 AM
For those with the rev4 manual

item item 83 and 84

item 84 will close this book almost

Alibi = beth lie

I know this will be a touchi subject... but it is notting compare what has been done..

Is the News a paper in Aruba

check who owns it and its relations ships.

There is no response to the Alibi=beth lie ….

« Reply #411 on: March 31, 2008, 11:02:44 AM »   
 
Forget the beth lie
it has been soved and it all done...

I need now the owners of The News

10 pages later….

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.600

« Reply #609 on: March 31, 2008, 11:15:49 PM »   
 
my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.









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« Reply #1495 on: May 08, 2008, 07:12:11 AM »

Capslock - MBOX...read my second message first.  My first idea didn't work.

Did it work or should I post it

I have Joomla installed and it has a WYSIWYG editor installed but when post in your editor it does not bring in the text formating styles with it.

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The pdf link below is what Capslock wanted me to post for him so the colors and highlights would show:


Here is Cap's picture of Vocking.

Hotping...Thanks for the prayer. After the posts from last night, for the sake of harmony I have decided to refrain from posting in this thread any more.

Enjoy the Tango!

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« Reply #1496 on: May 08, 2008, 07:35:23 AM »


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Matty Apartment.: After Researching what the commun form to do a quicky is in Aruba, and from strategic elimination process and with the help of someone that work the escort industry, who lead me to the kalpoe father that owns the VIP club who's in the back there is an access to the appartments (6) where one will do a quicky where it is just of a coincidance is accross the street of the Monserat pond.

CAPS

If the Kalpoe father owns the VIP Club, then it appears Kawish Misier and the Kalpoes are related - with Baidjnath Misier being the Kalpoe father and uncle of Kawish Misier.  Is this correct CAPS?








THE V.I.P. CLUB  
 
Business address NOORD 17, NOORD 
Date of incorporation  7 MAY 1999
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
BAIDJNATH MISIER-KELKBOOM, JANIRA FRANCINA; 
Residing in  ALTO VISTA 76-B, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 30 JUNE 1971 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  10 JUNE 2004 
Authority  FULL 


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« Reply #1497 on: May 08, 2008, 07:36:11 AM »

Capslock - MBOX...read my second message first.  My first idea didn't work.

Did it work or should I post it

I have Joomla installed and it has a WYSIWYG editor installed but when post in your editor it does not bring in the text formating styles with it.

Editor is old on your Joomla or Mambo system



The pdf link below is what Capslock wanted me to post for him so the colors and highlights would show:


Here is Cap's picture of Vocking.

Hotping...Thanks for the prayer. After the posts from last night, for the sake of harmony I have decided to refrain from posting in this thread any more.

Enjoy the Tango!



Mum,

Please don't leave this thread. I always look forward to getting up in the morning and coming here to see what you have posted. PLEASE STAY!
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« Reply #1498 on: May 08, 2008, 07:40:08 AM »

I will not go anywhere.

but like a said before, I am (we all) are at the berlin wall and as we chip and chip away we will break trough.

Now the center string is LORENZO (Bulo) - VIP CLUB / MATTY APARTMENT - and a Natalee Look alike (douppleganger)

then came the two Hatians --->to blame someone to gain time

Then came the Dutch and the Surimans --->to safe some face and power of the LAW

In all this there is the NEWS (Renfro) and a Crap Dealer (Wever) and a DJ (Steve Croes), Lawyer and prosecuter etc.

and all happend from a 10 day vacation + another 10 day after the desapear of natalee.

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the first 10 day, there was Paul, Lorenzo+ Guido Waver + girls

the other 10 day, there was a girl missing, Lorenzo, Casino boy, Joran + Steve croes + Kalpoes





CAPS,

I am completely confused by what you have just said.  Are you saying that there were actually two video parties where MB girls were involved?  Is this why Virginia left the island early?  Was Haleigh (sp) the unwilling victim of a Lorenzo/Guido/Paulus production during a previous trip to Aruba?  Please be more specific with this information.  What does news and an email from DH mean?



Where is my mind???   Of course I know who DH is.  Can you share any of his information with us?
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« Reply #1499 on: May 08, 2008, 07:53:08 AM »


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If the Kalpoe father owns the VIP Club, then it appears Kawish Misier and the Kalpoes are related - with Baidjnath Misier being the Kalpoe father and uncle of Kawish Misier.  Is this correct CAPS?



Good Morning, Pita.

This is one of Cap's claims that I cannot make sense of. Dave was all over that place as were others who went to Aruba to investigate. How could none of them not know that the Kalpoe father owned the VIP?
Maybe it's just me. 
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