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« Reply #1540 on: May 08, 2008, 08:54:04 PM »

Caps what is a lekker??? Is that a street?



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I'm not Caps, but I believe Lekker is a restaurant.

LEKKER BAR & RESTAURANT  
 
Business address NOORD 39, NOORD 
Name of the company  IDAMCA N.V. 
Date of incorporation  23 MAY 1983 
     
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
TSE, XIN PING;  
Residing in  MADIKI KAVEL 94, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  CHINA on 26 OCTOBER 1972 
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WU, CUIWEI; 
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« Reply #1541 on: May 08, 2008, 09:00:04 PM »

SS ... I was just pointing out that CAPS research/sources DID NOT reveal that Patrick van der Eem had a long term relationship with the VDS' and ... that Patrick lived in Deepak and Satish neighbourhood.

Janet

I don't think it was said that they had a long term relationship.  I think it was that they had known each other for seven years.
Patrick had claimed at the time of the video release that he had met Joran for the first time in a casino in Holland, at which time he greeted Joran using the name "Murderer".  If they had done water sports together at Patrick's brother's business, then Patrick wasn't being honest.


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If you are basing anything to do with "7 years" from Caps post, he stated in a response to my questioning it that the "7 years" was an error.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg371273#msg371273

Janet,
The altavista bablefish translation of the article says this:

Diddles consent to Almelose matter man
Sunday 03 February 2008 | 08.24 | Last updated on: Monday 28 April 2008 | 22.27

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Joran of of the ditch with friends. Photograph DUTCH PRESS AGENCY

ALMELO - the man who freezes on behalf of crime report donor peter R. using a hidden camera Joran of of the ditch ‘a consent’ has diddled, of origin the antillian entrepreneur Patrick of of the Eem is.


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No arrest warrant Joran
This 34 person whose birthday it is knowledge of Joran has floated a matter in snakes and snake links in Almelo (under the name Pirtek) since July 2003 on deduction from pension ous paym basis, but has lived in a recreation bungalow in gelderse Lathum, at east of Velp.


Of of the Eem is born on Curaçao. A brother of him lives on Aruba, where he has a boat rent company. By means of that brother Joran of of the ditch and Patrick learned know each other. Patrick have previous autumn himself at peter R. freeze themselves communicated. According to freeze of of the Eem in sum five months have cooperated in ‘’ the undercoveroperatie against Joran of of the ditch. He for that a monthly onkostenvergoeding from 5000 euro, in sum therefore 25,000 euro has received.


If house in the Netherlands has large recreation area Rhederlaag of of the Eem a bungalow in 700 hectares in Lathum (municipality seven ear). On 25 hectares large peninsula in the Rhedermeer bungalow lies - and villa park Riverparc with 350 recreation houses. It lies officially on 15 car minutes of arnhem, the place of residence of Joran of of the ditch. Last Friday he was still celebrating found in arnhem in discotheque Manhattan. Since Saturday he has gone into hiding. Of several sides Saturday was communicated that he would stay in drachten, but that appeared later a person permutation go.


Of of the Eem the Almelose opened establishment on 14 July there 2003. work eight people. The venture lies to of of the Hoopweg in the industry area the peat quay A. here was yesterday confess nobody. Pirtek were, however, telephone contactable by means of an emergency centre. The centre trick did not have information on the entrepreneur. However, the news concerning the friendship between of of the Eem and of of the ditch had penetrated already early. Concerning of of the Eem no data were available.


I hope this helps!   

Thank Texasmom.

Nevertheless ... in April, 2008 SS' submission to Patrick's blog based on CAPS research stated ... "I am sincerely disappointed to learn that you have known the van der Sloots for seven years, lived across the street from the Kalpoes ..."  Texasmom ...  CAPS research does not support either claim.

What bothered me is ... this morning SS was giving CAPS credit for that false info on the discussion forum rather than ... conceding that CAPS was in error.

I will be getting a literal translation of this article shortly.  My Dutch American DIL just emailed the article to her father to translate.  Her father does several translations from Dutch to English for members of the Dairy community that resides just south of the Canadian border.  Many of the 2nd and 3rd generation Dutch have relatives in Holland but ... do not have a clue concerning the written word of their Native tongue.  Neither does my DIL or her brothers.

When I get a full translation ... I will post it.

Janet


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« Reply #1542 on: May 08, 2008, 09:01:48 PM »

Almelose zakenman ontfutselt bekentenis
zondag 03 februari 2008 | 08:24 | Laatst bijgewerkt op: maandag 28 april 2008 | 22:27


ALMELO - De man die namens misdaadverslaggever Peter R. de Vries met behulp van een verborgen camera Joran van der Sloot een ‘bekentenis’ heeft ontfutseld, is de van oorsprong Antilliaanse ondernemer Patrick van der Eem.

Deze 34-jarige kennis van Joran drijft sinds juli 2003 op franchise-basis een zaak in slangen en slangkoppelingen in Almelo (onder de naam Pirtek ), maar woont in een recreatiebungalow in het Gelderse Lathum, ten oosten van Velp.

Van der Eem is geboren op Curaçao. Een broer van hem woont op Aruba, waar hij een botenverhuurbedrijf heeft. Via die broer leerden Joran van der Sloot en Patrick elkaar kennen. Patrick heeft zich vorig najaar zelf bij Peter R. de Vries gemeld. Volgens De Vries heeft Van der Eem in totaal vijf maanden aan de ‘undercoveroperatie’ tegen Joran van der Sloot meegewerkt. Hij heeft daarvoor een maandelijkse onkostenvergoeding van 5000 euro ontvangen, in totaal dus 25.000 euro.

Als woning in Nederland heeft Van der Eem een bungalow in het 700 hectare grote recreatiegebied Rhederlaag in Lathum (gemeente Zevenaar). Op een 25 hectare groot schiereiland in het Rhedermeer ligt het bungalow- en villapark Riverparc met 350 recreatiewoningen. Het ligt op 15 autominuten van Arnhem, officieel de woonplaats van Joran van der Sloot. Afgelopen vrijdag werd hij in Arnhem nog feestend aangetroffen in discotheek Manhattan. Sinds zaterdag is hij ondergedoken. Van diverse zijden werd zaterdag gemeld dat hij in Drachten zou verblijven, maar dat bleek later om een persoonsverwisseling te gaan.

Van der Eem opende de Almelose vestiging op 14 juli 2003. Er werken acht mensen. De onderneming ligt aan de Van der Hoopweg op het industrieterrein Turfkade A. Hier was gisteren niemand te bekennen. Pirtek was wel telefonisch bereikbaar via een alarmcentrale. De centralist beschikte niet over informatie over de ondernemer. Wel was het nieuws over de vriendschap tussen Van der Eem en Van der Sloot al vroeg doorgedrongen. Over Van der Eem waren geen gegevens beschikbaar.

http://www.tctubantia.nl/algemeen/binnenland/2579829/Almelose-zakenman-ontfutselt-bekentenis.ece

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Thanks Caps!

ALMELO - The man who act on behalf of crime reporter Peter R. De Vries using a hidden camera Joran van der Sloot a "confession" has ontfutseld, is the origin of Antillean entrepreneur Patrick van der Eem.

See also:

     * No arrest warrant Joran

This 34-year-old Joran knowledge of floats since July 2003 on a franchise basis case snakes and slangkoppelingen in Almelo (under the name Pirtek), but lives in a recreatiebungalow in the Gelderse Lathum, east of Velp.

Van der Eem was born on Curaçao. A brother of him lives on Aruba, where he has a Water SPorts business. His brother who taught Joran van der Sloot and Patrick together.  Patrick has himself last autumn when Peter R. De Vries. According to De Vries, Van der Eem a total of five months' undercoveroperatie "against Joran van der Sloot cooperated. He has a monthly expenses of Euro 5000, a total of 25,000 euros.

If home in the Netherlands, Van der Eem a bungalow in the 700-hectare recreation Rhederlaag in Lathum (Zevenaar town). On a 25-acre peninsula in the Rhedermeer lies the bungalow and villapark Riverparc with 350 Recreational. It is 15 minutes from Arnhem, the official residence of Joran van der Sloot. Last Friday he was still partying all evening in Arnhem discovered in Manhattan nightclub. Since Saturday he is hiding. From various sides was reported Saturday that he would stay in Drachten, but it turned out later to a persoonsverwisseling to go.

Van der Eem Almelose opened the establishment on July 14, 2003. Employs eight people. The company is located at the Van der Hoopweg on the industrial Turfkade A. Here yesterday was nobody in sight. Pirtek was reached at an emergency phone. The centralist did not have information on the entrepreneur. However, it was the news about the friendship between Van der Eem and Van der Sloot early penetrated. About Van der Eem were no data available.

to properly translate the bold text:

"through his brother, Patrick got to know Joran".

"the company knew about Patricks friendship with Joran already".
meaning: it was no surprise when the journalist called and asked for information.

this was the morning before the Peter R. de Vries broadcast[/color]

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« Reply #1543 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:20 PM »

My I please request that we get over this debate regarding 7 years, and if you are chosing to respond to this, please do not quote the entire quote, one posting is taking two pages to read through. I think you can state an opionion without quoting something to back up your statement unless someone asks for it.  JMO but I am tired of scrolling past the same damn comments over and over. sorry...it is making me pissy.
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« Reply #1544 on: May 08, 2008, 11:13:12 PM »

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« Reply #1545 on: May 08, 2008, 11:24:26 PM »

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« Reply #1546 on: May 08, 2008, 11:33:41 PM »

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« Reply #1547 on: May 09, 2008, 01:24:32 AM »

For those who is in doubt.

ALMELO - De man die namens misdaadverslaggever Peter R. de Vries met behulp van een verborgen camera Joran van der Sloot een ‘bekentenis’ heeft ontfutseld, is de van oorsprong Antilliaanse ondernemer Patrick van der Eem.

Amelo - The man, according on the crime reporter Peter R. de Vries, who with the help of hidden camera have secure a confession from Joran van der Sloot, is the result of an Antillian business man Patric van der Eem

Deze 34-jarige kennis van Joran drijft sinds juli 2003 op franchise-basis een zaak in slangen en slangkoppelingen in Almelo (onder de naam Pirtek ), maar woont in een recreatiebungalow in het Gelderse Lathum, ten oosten van Velp.

This 34 year old acuantance of Joran operated since July 2003 on franchise basis a Hose and hose copling business in Almelo (under the name of Pirtek), but he lives in a recreational housing complex in Gelderse Lathun, east of Velp.

Van der Eem is geboren op Curaçao. Een broer van hem woont op Aruba, waar hij een botenverhuurbedrijf heeft. Via die broer leerden Joran van der Sloot en Patrick elkaar kennen. Patrick heeft zich vorig najaar zelf bij Peter R. de Vries gemeld. Volgens De Vries heeft Van der Eem in totaal vijf maanden aan de ‘undercoveroperatie’ tegen Joran van der Sloot meegewerkt. Hij heeft daarvoor een maandelijkse onkostenvergoeding van 5000 euro ontvangen, in totaal dus 25.000 euro.

Van der Eem was born in Curacao. A brother of him lives in Aruba, whereby he the owner of boot rental business. Via his brother did Patrick and Joran became acquaintance and know each other.
Patrick himself did last year got in touch / reported to Peter R. vries. According to De Vries Patrick have spend a total of 5 months in the undercover operation against Joran. For that, he was paid on a monthly bases the sum of 5000 euro for expenses. In Total the sum of 25.000 euro. 
 

Als woning in Nederland heeft Van der Eem een bungalow in het 700 hectare grote recreatiegebied Rhederlaag in Lathum (gemeente Zevenaar). Op een 25 hectare groot schiereiland in het Rhedermeer ligt het bungalow- en villapark Riverparc met 350 recreatiewoningen. Het ligt op 15 autominuten van Arnhem, officieel de woonplaats van Joran van der Sloot. Afgelopen vrijdag werd hij in Arnhem nog feestend aangetroffen in discotheek Manhattan. Sinds zaterdag is hij ondergedoken. Van diverse zijden werd zaterdag gemeld dat hij in Drachten zou verblijven, maar dat bleek later om een persoonsverwisseling te gaan.


As housing in the Netherlands, Patrick van Eem owns a smallhouse in this 700 acre recreational area of Rhderlaag in Lathum (county of Zevenaar). on a peace of 25 Hecta acre island in Rhedermeer their is a small housing and villapark called Riverparc with 350 recreational homes. It is 15 minute automobile drive from Arnhem, the official Joran van der Sloot residence. Last Friday, he was seen  to be partying in the discotheque call Manhatan. Sinds Saturday, he has dissapear. From several sources, it was reported Saturday that he was staying in Drachten, but that seem to be a mistaken Identity case.

Van der Eem opende de Almelose vestiging op 14 juli 2003. Er werken acht mensen. De onderneming ligt aan de Van der Hoopweg op het industrieterrein Turfkade A. Hier was gisteren niemand te bekennen. Pirtek was wel telefonisch bereikbaar via een alarmcentrale. De centralist beschikte niet over informatie over de ondernemer. Wel was het nieuws over de vriendschap tussen Van der Eem en Van der Sloot al vroeg doorgedrongen. Over Van der Eem waren geen gegevens beschikbaar.

Van der Eem established his business on July 14, 2003. The where 8 workers. The business location is in Van der Hoopweg on this industry terrain Turfkade A. At this place yesterday was no one to be fond. But Pirtek was reachable via telephone from a central Alarm service operator. The operator of this central Alarm service did not have any information of the Business owner.But what was convey is that the friendship between Van Eem and Van der Sloot for a long time existed. About van Eem Self there was no information available.
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« Reply #1548 on: May 09, 2008, 02:25:28 AM »

For those that are still in doubt. Research from holland.


http://www.crimesite.nl/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6615

PATRICK: Ja,..maar kijk,.. aangezien ik hem al zoveel jaren ken, kon ik het niet opbrengen om met mezelf te leven, terwijl ik wist dat hij hierin betrokken was en gewoon het gevoel had dat ik iets moest doen. Snap je? Hij had gewoon behoefte om zijn stem te laten horen en daar heb ik gebruik van gemaakt. Zeven maanden lang.

PATRICK: Yes,..but look....since I know him for a long time, I could not live with my self, Meanwhile knowing that he was involved, I got the feeling that I had to do something. Do you understand? He needed his voice to be heart and I took this as an opportunity for seven months.

Van der Eem zou Joran van der Sloot dus ‘zoveel jaren kennen’. Dat is in tegenspraak met zijn verhaal dat hij Joran voor het eerst ontmoette in het casino in Nijmegen. De operatie nam volgens Van der Eem zeven maanden in beslag. Bij Pauw en Witteman stelde Van der Eem dat voordat hij zich bij Peter R. de Vries meldde (eind oktober 2007) hij anderhalve maand met Joran in de weer was geweest. In het programma Jensen! dat gisteravond werd uitgezonden had Van der Eem het ook over zeven maanden.

Van der Eem "know Joran for a long time". This is against the story that he says that he first met with Joran for the first time in the casino in Nijmegen. The operation according to Van der Eem took 7 months time. On the Pauw and Witteman Patrick is saying that before he approche Peter R. de Vries (end October 2007) he and Joran hang out for more that one and half month. In the program Jensen! that was transmitted yesterday, He had said again now that it is zeven months.


Now who do you believe. ????
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« Reply #1549 on: May 09, 2008, 02:43:05 AM »

Hey CAPS, when you stop in again......

There was an interesting post on the front page about Tim Miller and TES going to Aruba to search for Jose Tromp.  #27 Guajiri writes:

There is a possible connection here, and I am surprised you guys haven’ noticed it yet.
On Nov 21 Joran gets arrested in Holland,
on Nov 24 he is flown to Aruba and
transported to KIA. He is released on Dec 7
Tromp who is perfectly fit and healthy goes missing on Nov 27.
He worked in KIA.
Is there a link here ?

CAPS, do you know anything about Jose Tromp working at KIA?  Do you think there is a possible connection here?

TIA, Helen


Know the man for 18 months, spent some times talking to him. but this should be in it own tread... has notting to do with the Natalee case. some times if a member do not pay the debt, they will collect in other form. he vanish from the radar. this is the work of the Bifrons.
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« Reply #1550 on: May 09, 2008, 08:12:25 AM »

Hi Caps, hey I have a question.

Didn't Patrick's brother own a watersports business? I have a bunch of info on a guy named Charles Dasher, who owned a watersports business on Palm Beach.... could there be any connection here? I don't want to post stuff that is totally irrelevant.

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« Reply #1551 on: May 09, 2008, 10:39:59 AM »

Hey CAPS, when you stop in again......

There was an interesting post on the front page about Tim Miller and TES going to Aruba to search for Jose Tromp.  #27 Guajiri writes:

There is a possible connection here, and I am surprised you guys haven’ noticed it yet.
On Nov 21 Joran gets arrested in Holland,
on Nov 24 he is flown to Aruba and
transported to KIA. He is released on Dec 7
Tromp who is perfectly fit and healthy goes missing on Nov 27.
He worked in KIA.
Is there a link here ?

CAPS, do you know anything about Jose Tromp working at KIA?  Do you think there is a possible connection here?

TIA, Helen


Know the man for 18 months, spent some times talking to him. but this should be in it own tread... has notting to do with the Natalee case. some times if a member do not pay the debt, they will collect in other form. he vanish from the radar. this is the work of the Bifrons.

Thanks, CAPS.

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« Reply #1552 on: May 09, 2008, 01:07:53 PM »

For those that are still in doubt. Research from holland.


http://www.crimesite.nl/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6615

PATRICK: Ja,..maar kijk,.. aangezien ik hem al zoveel jaren ken, kon ik het niet opbrengen om met mezelf te leven, terwijl ik wist dat hij hierin betrokken was en gewoon het gevoel had dat ik iets moest doen. Snap je? Hij had gewoon behoefte om zijn stem te laten horen en daar heb ik gebruik van gemaakt. Zeven maanden lang.

PATRICK: Yes,..but look....since I know him for a long time, I could not live with my self, Meanwhile knowing that he was involved, I got the feeling that I had to do something. Do you understand? He needed his voice to be heart and I took this as an opportunity for seven months.

Van der Eem zou Joran van der Sloot dus ‘zoveel jaren kennen’. Dat is in tegenspraak met zijn verhaal dat hij Joran voor het eerst ontmoette in het casino in Nijmegen. De operatie nam volgens Van der Eem zeven maanden in beslag. Bij Pauw en Witteman stelde Van der Eem dat voordat hij zich bij Peter R. de Vries meldde (eind oktober 2007) hij anderhalve maand met Joran in de weer was geweest. In het programma Jensen! dat gisteravond werd uitgezonden had Van der Eem het ook over zeven maanden.

Van der Eem "know Joran for a long time". This is against the story that he says that he first met with Joran for the first time in the casino in Nijmegen. The operation according to Van der Eem took 7 months time. On the Pauw and Witteman Patrick is saying that before he approche Peter R. de Vries (end October 2007) he and Joran hang out for more that one and half month. In the program Jensen! that was transmitted yesterday, He had said again now that it is zeven months.


Now who do you believe. ????


Hang in there CAPS

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« Reply #1553 on: May 09, 2008, 02:30:57 PM »

I am confused. 
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« Reply #1554 on: May 09, 2008, 02:36:37 PM »

Hi Caps, hey I have a question.

Didn't Patrick's brother own a watersports business? I have a bunch of info on a guy named Charles Dasher, who owned a watersports business on Palm Beach.... could there be any connection here? I don't want to post stuff that is totally irrelevant.

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INNES WATERSPORTS 
 
Business address PALM BEACH 394, NOORD 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  INNES WATERSPORTS 
Date of commencement  1 FEBRUARY 2002 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 4 JULY 2007   
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
VAN DER EEM, PERRY INNES;  
Residing in  PALM BEACH 394, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 20 JULY 1971 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  17 OCTOBER 2002 
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« Reply #1555 on: May 09, 2008, 03:10:23 PM »

Hi Caps, hey I have a question.

Didn't Patrick's brother own a watersports business? I have a bunch of info on a guy named Charles Dasher, who owned a watersports business on Palm Beach.... could there be any connection here? I don't want to post stuff that is totally irrelevant.

Thanks

INNES WATERSPORTS 
 
Business address PALM BEACH 394, NOORD 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  INNES WATERSPORTS 
Date of commencement  1 FEBRUARY 2002 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 4 JULY 2007   
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
VAN DER EEM, PERRY INNES;  
Residing in  PALM BEACH 394, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 20 JULY 1971 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  17 OCTOBER 2002 
Authority  FULL 
   


I don't see Charles Dasher in any of that information.
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« Reply #1556 on: May 09, 2008, 05:37:20 PM »

update info to all who think patrick is a ........

Look at the address and look at the Government MAP. Patric and the Kalpoes where neighbours and not living 2 housed down.

van der Eem   Patrick P      4/1/1973   Curacao      Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem   Perry I      7/20/1971Curacao      Seroe Pita 7A

Kalpoe   Bodjhperkash S         5/2/1964   Distr. Wanica   Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad   Santakoemarie   10/28/1968   Distr.Saramacca   Seroe Patrishi 14C

In 2001 Patric was already register in aruba living in Seroe Patrishi 14F while his brother Parry lived in Seroe Pita 7A. Perry live in the District of Paradera

Patric, on the other hand lived in Seroe Patrishi and was the neighbour of the Kalpoes in 2001 already. He must known these kids when they were in there teens and must have spend time with them. 

in 2003 he moved to holland and established a business which suppose to have 8 workers but no one is working the business.

in 2007 he goes after Joran to get some more out of him or was trying to make a fool of the Americans and at the same time make some money or book deal.

To much of coincidence of SCAREFACE or SACREFICE  and his name of the company PirTek = PaTrec same type of changing letter to confuse.

SACREFICE
SCAREFACE

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« Reply #1557 on: May 09, 2008, 06:37:54 PM »

How old is Patrick Van der em (sp?)?????? 
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« Reply #1558 on: May 09, 2008, 06:52:02 PM »

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http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/story?id=4236425&page=1

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Article dated: Feb. 4, 2008

In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Patrick van der Eem, 34, described in detail how he painstakingly gained the young Dutch suspect's trust, took his suspicions to Holland's leading investigative reporter and began a sting operation that led to van der Sloot's caught-on-camera admissions that he panicked when Holloway had what he describes as a seizure during a sexual encounter and called a friend who came and took the body out to sea.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1559 on: May 09, 2008, 06:53:10 PM »

How old is Patrick Van der em (sp?)?????? 

Is 4/1/1973 his birthdate?  I was confusing it with a date of residence, I think.

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