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« Reply #1560 on: May 09, 2008, 06:58:00 PM »

How old is Patrick Van der em (sp?)?????? 

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/story?id=4236425&page=1

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In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Patrick van der Eem, 34, described in detail how he painstakingly gained the young Dutch suspect's trust, took his suspicions to Holland's leading investigative reporter and began a sting operation that led to van der Sloot's caught-on-camera admissions that he panicked when Holloway had what he describes as a seizure during a sexual encounter and called a friend who came and took the body out to sea.



Thanks, texasmom....this is what I was remembering.   I read the date as refering to residence at first and thought 'he was an infant then'....

If this is all true, 14 C & 14 F.....close enough to see the car being cleaned, imo. 
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« Reply #1561 on: May 09, 2008, 07:04:43 PM »

Didn't Deepak get to Aruba in about 2002? I thought Nadira said that Deepak came first (he was there for three years) and then Satish 18 months later. Nadira probably said that Satish needed "special" schooling... and look where that got him. LOL . . . is he still in school?

And Caps, don't you have listings there for Curacao for other Kalpoes? That's not the right family I think...or do I have this wrong?

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« Reply #1562 on: May 09, 2008, 07:36:36 PM »



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« Reply #1563 on: May 09, 2008, 07:56:55 PM »

update info to all who think patrick is a ........

Look at the address and look at the Government MAP. Patric and the Kalpoes where neighbours and not living 2 housed down.

van der Eem   Patrick P      4/1/1973   Curacao      Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem   Perry I      7/20/1971Curacao      Seroe Pita 7A

Kalpoe   Bodjhperkash S         5/2/1964   Distr. Wanica   Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad   Santakoemarie   10/28/1968   Distr.Saramacca   Seroe Patrishi 14C

In 2001 Patric was already register in aruba living in Seroe Patrishi 14F while his brother Parry lived in Seroe Pita 7A. Perry live in the District of Paradera

Patric, on the other hand lived in Seroe Patrishi and was the neighbour of the Kalpoes in 2001 already. He must known these kids when they were in there teens and must have spend time with them. 

in 2003 he moved to holland and established a business which suppose to have 8 workers but no one is working the business.

in 2007 he goes after Joran to get some more out of him or was trying to make a fool of the Americans and at the same time make some money or book deal.

To much of coincidence of SCAREFACE or SACREFICE  and his name of the company PirTek = PaTrec same type of changing letter to confuse.

SACREFICE
SCAREFACE

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Caps,

Is there a way to verify how this Kalpoe family is related to Deepak and Satish? My understanding is that their father is an airport employee in Suriname.

I don't think Patrick had anything to do with the name, Pirtek. He only owns a franchise, right?

http://www.pirtek.com/
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« Reply #1564 on: May 09, 2008, 08:00:00 PM »

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« Reply #1565 on: May 09, 2008, 08:06:23 PM »

Well!  I guess I am stupid as one of our other posters claims...all this time I thought the Kalpoes address began with the number 91B....boy, I missed that address.  I really need to slink back into my corner now. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #1566 on: May 09, 2008, 08:21:37 PM »

How old is Patrick Van der em (sp?)?????? 

Is 4/1/1973 his birthdate?  I was confusing it with a date of residence, I think.



I wish you guy are in Aruba and see thing for your self. I do not make things up and I am not here to debate with everyone who have some sort of info and want to defent it.

The data come from the Official registry of Aruba and the MAP is the official kadastral planning of aruba. all building are on it with address.

Now if you are getting right datas and are compring it to what they have told everyone who posted here then I can say this, just choose what best that fits your investigation. I use official data and not from what people tell me. If I got a tibit of info, I will research it, using official maps and official data from the Aruba registry. Not AzV, nor Elmar, Nor KVK.

Also thet address in Seroe Patrishi has a history with Patrick. (the lost young souls) 

Back to work.
 
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« Reply #1567 on: May 09, 2008, 08:26:27 PM »

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« Reply #1568 on: May 09, 2008, 08:29:04 PM »

update info to all who think patrick is a ........

Look at the address and look at the Government MAP. Patric and the Kalpoes where neighbours and not living 2 housed down.

van der Eem   Patrick P      4/1/1973   Curacao      Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem   Perry I      7/20/1971Curacao      Seroe Pita 7A

Kalpoe   Bodjhperkash S         5/2/1964   Distr. Wanica   Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad   Santakoemarie   10/28/1968   Distr.Saramacca   Seroe Patrishi 14C

In 2001 Patric was already register in aruba living in Seroe Patrishi 14F while his brother Parry lived in Seroe Pita 7A. Perry live in the District of Paradera

Patric, on the other hand lived in Seroe Patrishi and was the neighbour of the Kalpoes in 2001 already. He must known these kids when they were in there teens and must have spend time with them. 

in 2003 he moved to holland and established a business which suppose to have 8 workers but no one is working the business.

in 2007 he goes after Joran to get some more out of him or was trying to make a fool of the Americans and at the same time make some money or book deal.

To much of coincidence of SCAREFACE or SACREFICE  and his name of the company PirTek = PaTrec same type of changing letter to confuse.

SACREFICE
SCAREFACE

More to come....



Caps,

Is there a way to verify how this Kalpoe family is related to Deepak and Satish? My understanding is that their father is an airport employee in Suriname.

I don't think Patrick had anything to do with the name, Pirtek. He only owns a franchise, right?

http://www.pirtek.com/


Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.
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« Reply #1569 on: May 09, 2008, 08:44:09 PM »



Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.

He must be busy with his bestseller.  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #1570 on: May 09, 2008, 08:54:18 PM »



Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.

He must be busy with his bestseller.  Rolling Eyes

From inside OM, he can not publish anything....OM put a zip on his mount. and so is Poentje Catro. they can't talk no more... He can talk NO more. He played a card and Lost.
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« Reply #1571 on: May 09, 2008, 08:57:02 PM »



Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.

He must be busy with his bestseller.  Rolling Eyes

From inside OM, he can not publish anything....OM put a zip on his mount. and so is Poentje Catro. they can't talk no more... He can talk NO more. He played a card and Lost.


He is already taking pre-orders for his book which comes out June 25th. It's on sale for $23 U.S 

http://patrickvandereem.nl/
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« Reply #1572 on: May 09, 2008, 08:59:13 PM »

Didn't Deepak get to Aruba in about 2002? I thought Nadira said that Deepak came first (he was there for three years) and then Satish 18 months later. Nadira probably said that Satish needed "special" schooling... and look where that got him. LOL . . . is he still in school?

And Caps, don't you have listings there for Curacao for other Kalpoes? That's not the right family I think...or do I have this wrong?

TIA



What is the date of birth of Nadira.. or her last name... there is a Nadira R at Seroe Patrishi 42. not to far from the Kalpoes
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« Reply #1573 on: May 09, 2008, 09:05:01 PM »



Is Marisol there? She is number two ya know.

And Briesen being there tells you who pulls the strings.
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« Reply #1574 on: May 09, 2008, 09:07:07 PM »

Didn't Deepak get to Aruba in about 2002? I thought Nadira said that Deepak came first (he was there for three years) and then Satish 18 months later. Nadira probably said that Satish needed "special" schooling... and look where that got him. LOL . . . is he still in school?

And Caps, don't you have listings there for Curacao for other Kalpoes? That's not the right family I think...or do I have this wrong?

TIA



What is the date of birth of Nadira.. or her last name... there is a Nadira R at Seroe Patrishi 42. not to far from the Kalpoes

Louis Ramirez is the Kalpoe brothers stepfather.
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« Reply #1575 on: May 09, 2008, 09:07:11 PM »

Didn't Deepak get to Aruba in about 2002? I thought Nadira said that Deepak came first (he was there for three years) and then Satish 18 months later. Nadira probably said that Satish needed "special" schooling... and look where that got him. LOL . . . is he still in school?

And Caps, don't you have listings there for Curacao for other Kalpoes? That's not the right family I think...or do I have this wrong?

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What is the date of birth of Nadira.. or her last name... there is a Nadira R at Seroe Patrishi 42. not to far from the Kalpoes

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« Reply #1576 on: May 09, 2008, 09:08:27 PM »

******* please transfer that post and delete this one. I did it again. 

I have no idea why when I sign back in it sends me to another thread.... maybe cause I have so many open??? 

Thanks again..
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Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.

He must be busy with his bestseller.  Rolling Eyes

From inside OM, he can not publish anything....OM put a zip on his mount. and so is Poentje Catro. they can't talk no more... He can talk NO more. He played a card and Lost.


He is already taking pre-orders for his book which comes out June 25th. It's on sale for $23 U.S 

http://patrickvandereem.nl/
it is not true either, there is not a water where Paules used to live. The forgot a thing, Joran was pickup at Mcdonald and here are withness.

He will sell his book but it is also not the true story. I know the people for a long time over in Montana and there is no well.   Talk to the old people the semeleers that live in the area before the kalpoes came to live in that area.

No well. There is a well that they could have used but it is not in the area., but than Joran did not need to walk to Mcdonalds passing infornt of the withness house that night where the dogs where barking because he was cover all in mud.

Why write a book telling a lie... Make you look a fool.


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« Reply #1578 on: May 09, 2008, 09:15:39 PM »



Yes, but it is not in operation. had friends in holland checked it out.

He must be busy with his bestseller.  Rolling Eyes

From inside OM, he can not publish anything....OM put a zip on his mount. and so is Poentje Catro. they can't talk no more... He can talk NO more. He played a card and Lost.


He is already taking pre-orders for his book which comes out June 25th. It's on sale for $23 U.S 

http://patrickvandereem.nl/
it is not true either, there is not a water well where Paules used to live. They forgot a thing, Joran was pickup at Mcdonald and here are withness.

He will sell his book but it is also not the true story. I know the people for a long time over in Montana and there is no well.   Talk to the old people the Semeleers that live in the area before the Sloots came to live in that area.

No well. There is a well that they could have used but it is not in the area., but than Joran did not need to walk to Mcdonalds passing infornt of the withness house that night where the dogs where barking because he was cover all in mud.

Why write a book telling a lie... Make you look a fool.



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« Reply #1579 on: May 09, 2008, 09:24:40 PM »

Didn't Deepak get to Aruba in about 2002? I thought Nadira said that Deepak came first (he was there for three years) and then Satish 18 months later. Nadira probably said that Satish needed "special" schooling... and look where that got him. LOL . . . is he still in school?

And Caps, don't you have listings there for Curacao for other Kalpoes? That's not the right family I think...or do I have this wrong?

TIA



What is the date of birth of Nadira.. or her last name... there is a Nadira R at Seroe Patrishi 42. not to far from the Kalpoes

Luis & (Nadira) Khentwattie Rujkumar Ramirez
Hooiberg 91-B



This is who lived at the Address

Bouwman   Martin R   11/22/1950   Soerabaja   Hooiberg 91B   this is a Surienam
Ramirez   Luis A   5/2/1960                Aruba            Hooiberg 91B

The onlt problem with this is No Nadira


Search was done based on the Hooiberg 91-B
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