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« Reply #1600 on: May 10, 2008, 08:02:48 AM »

Anybody remember anything about this?  Is this Steve Croes' uncle?

Name: Socorro Bermudez, Solagnier
Date: 13 July 2005
Pages: 4 (attached: Car accident report)
Writer/Initiator: Johny Erasmus, Zoraida. De Cuba
Description: witness statement
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« Reply #1601 on: May 10, 2008, 10:29:42 AM »

Maybe Nadira is a nic name.

Did you look for previous addresses for:

Name: Khemwattie Rajkumar Ramirez
Date: 02 June 2005118:15
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator Dennis Jacobs & Angelo Anthony
Description: witness statement by the Kalpoe's mother



Excellent...thanks for bringing this forward.
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« Reply #1602 on: May 10, 2008, 10:33:18 AM »

I have questioned many times why Nadira and Luis were interviewed on June2nd. And why Luis was questioned again on June 28th. – the same day as Freddy and Lorenzo.

 We need to find out where Luis worked in May 2005. He is not on the 2004/2005 Chamber list. I can’t find where I saw he worked at a casino/hotel. May be important.

After I posted last night there was a flurry of activity on my computer! Can’t be the Judge’s list. I’ve posted about that 20 times before. Must have been the rest of the paragraph!

But I don’t think you have much to worry about Caps, ALE has orchestrated and maintained this cover-up for almost 3 years now. From personal experience, it appears fairly simple for a geek to track and infiltrate a computer. If they want to find you, they can.

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Need to read back. Who were the Gods, again?

And what the heck does Dilbert have to do with all this?



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« Reply #1603 on: May 11, 2008, 09:18:33 PM »

With the recent discussions here regarding Patrick van Der Eem's relationship with Joran and family prior to Devries, I thought I would bring over *******'s post from the NH thread:

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Lorenzo Van Rijn on hyves..I see he used his arrest picture and has Patrick on his friends list

http://lorenzovanrijn666.hyves.nl/friends/

Nuff said.



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« Reply #1604 on: May 11, 2008, 09:27:34 PM »

With the recent discussions here regarding Patrick van Der Eem's relationship with Joran and family prior to Devries, I thought I would bring over *******'s post from the NH thread:

******* wrote:

Lorenzo Van Rijn on hyves..I see he used his arrest picture and has Patrick on his friends list

http://lorenzovanrijn666.hyves.nl/friends/

Nuff said.





IMO somebody has been very creative in creating Lorenzo's site.
That somebody is not Lorenzo.
 
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« Reply #1605 on: May 11, 2008, 09:28:33 PM »


 

BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Anjali     Rotterdam     4-11-1983     P-0039
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Kawisch    Rotterdam    2-6-1990    P-0041
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Kawita    Rotterdam    5-1-1985    P-0040
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« Reply #1606 on: May 11, 2008, 09:41:06 PM »

Here ya go Caps..A picture of Kuiperdal ..Early in the case we learned of a man that said he helped bury Natalee with two others but was committed to a Mental Institution. I wonder if he is this same Fransisco questioned on June 10th and if this Kuiperdal had anything to do with that.

Name: Elgen Fransisco Kock
Date: 10 June 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Fleur Tromp
Description: witness statement



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The Misier Car rental business in Aruba

http://www.american-car-rental.com/american/home.do
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« Reply #1607 on: May 11, 2008, 10:09:01 PM »

Interesting reading at this link

http://arubagirl.typepad.com/lost_in_smallness/2005/10/there_was_an_el.html
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« Reply #1608 on: May 11, 2008, 10:25:00 PM »

This letter is from the above link

My open letter to mrs Beth Twitty, duped because of Aruba

The Hague, The Netherlands, 25th of April 2008

Dear mrs Elizabeth (Beth) Twitty,

I, Carlos Severino Tromp, am the builder, owner, and writer of the Dutch website
www. koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com and I want to apologise to you through this letter via the website YOU TUBE for the injustice the ministry of Aruba has done to you, because injustice is injustice. I understand your pain and meekness as a human being and mother of Nathalee Holloway, and I also want to express my support for you, because you have lost the battle, but not the war! There is, alas, no justice in my country of birth Aruba, because the government of Nelson Orlando Oduber Prime Minister is corrupt, the eleven puppet members of parliament, and their president, mrs Marvin Wyatt-Ras, are nothing more than puppets who protect corruption. The Public Prosecuting Agency of Aruba (OM) Havenstraat #2, Oranjestad, Aruba, is a political Organisation and together with the communal Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba they have degenerated into a house of worship of Satan.

Also the very corrupt crown civil servants, the violators of human rights: the Public Prosecutors General, Mr. Drs. Teresa Diana Croes Fernandez Pedra and the monster Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo who on a daily basis violates justice and human rights,

(it is namely not for nothing that the now former commissary of police and inspector,
Gerold Dompig, has thoroughly beaten her up. What is piquaint, however, is that he
was not prosecuted for this severe maltreatment and even this incident was covered up
by the local authorities of Aruba and that the motherland the Netherlands has, as usual,
again closed her eyes to this serious fact) mrs Teresa Diana Croes and Elivia Lugo
together with her colleagues; whom have perfected and legalised corruption there with
the blessing of the corrupt Hyancintho Rudolfo Croes (Rudygate), minister of justice,
for whom the motherland the Netherlands takes a bow!
They are not to be trusted, falsify documents, commit forgery, manipulate the law, commit great injustice, so that justice there in fact has degenerated into justice metered out by tyrants and a lot more devious things against humanity and human rights, with the cooperation of many corrupt Dutch and Aruba lawyers, whom have all done such under the auspices of the kingdom of the Netherlands, which has therefore degenerated into a
lowlife banana republic.
KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS (Do no wrong in your judging: give thought to the position of the poor, do not only honor the position of the great; but be a judge to your neighbor in righteousness. Leviticus 19:15)

This is the reason that Nathalee Holloway has become missing and Joran van der Sloot is untouchable within that banana republic, the kingdom of the netherlands.

Joran van der Sloot would now have become a persona non grata. I have to laugh at this, because that is only a sly joke and a smoke curtain coming from the henchman of Satan with the nickname “Rudygate” sitting on the post of the secretary of justice of the very corrupt STATUS APARTE of Aruba, entitled as a den of thieves: the insular territory Aruba, being a part of the dutch banana republic. It is further totally irrelevant whether there is or is not a governor of Aruba, because this current governor is blind, deaf and mute concerning the crimes of his former political party MEP that is in power.

A part of the populace is tainted with corruption. Just ask the former E.U. member of Parliament mr. Frits Bolkestein and the dutch Second Chamber member mr. Hero Brinkman; they are witnesses, because they have called Aruba a litter of robbers and a den of thieves.

But do not think that I am surprised, because of the fact that the International Transparency rapports of Berlin have also entitled the motherland the Netherlands as being number seven on the list of all the corrupt countries in the world! Bad trees do not give good fruits!!

The dutch government closes its eyes to the crimes taking place on Aruba against humanity and human rights in name of the head of state, the Queen, Mrs Beatrix. And the dutch Prime Minister Mr Drs Jan Peter Balkenende believes in his half truths and is helping the corrupt government of Aruba Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber to fool the people and the world with a crooked rapport of the IMF into believing that the economy of Aruba is sound. Jan Peter Balkenende appears not to have feelings or be ashamed of his lies, or else he must be totally incompetent! Because how is it then possible that Aruba has only 120.000 inhabitants but a national debt of more than one billion guilders, while 80% of the populace has fallen into poverty? This has only been possible with the very corrupt cartel of Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber, Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes (alias Rudygate), Marisol Lopez-Tromp (queen of corruption), Nilo Swaen who is manipulating figures on the ministry of finance, Ramon (the sex maniac) Lee, Eddie Briezen Namdar, Booshi (Mr false diploma) Wever and cronies.
But it is understandable that dirty hands cannot clean anything what is dirty and IF Satan rises against Satan, he is fighting against himself and destroys his own kingdom; thus states the Holy Bible!

I advise you to start a legal procedure against the insular territory of Aruba, the Dutch state or the Kingdom of the Netherlands, because the government of Aruba is lying to the world under the auspices of the kingdom of the netherlands, that lowlife banana republic, that Aruba is a safe and secure island for tourism; even for the people there is no justice, while there exists no security of law, no justice on that little island, neither that so called democracy!
Because corruption is in power on Aruba and the government under the Cabinet of Nelson Orlando Oduber has changed the insular territory of Aruba into a den of thieves!
I cordially welcome you to the website written in the Dutch and in English languages www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com & www.dutchkingdomclassjustice.info ,
so that you can get an impression of the total injustice that has manifested itself on Aruba.
Probably on the 25th of April 2008 or in the near future a new website will appear in the English language called www.arubainjustice.info You are of course welcome to check it out.



“DAME CLASS JUSTICE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS” Do not Err; God is not made sport of: for whatever seed a man puts in, he will get back as grain. Galatians 6-7


DAME ? JUSTICE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS; JUSTICE NOW OR NEVER !!”

You are absolutely invited to pass on this letter to the press, television any media.


Yours Sincerely,


C.S. Tromp


Posted by: Carlos Severino Tromp | April 25, 2008 at 06:11 PM

I, Carlos Severino Tromp, born in Aruba, and having the Dutch nationality, one of the victims of and also one of the duped persons of the head of state of the Netherlands, do hereby address an open letter to the head of state, Beatrix
Wilhelmina Armguard, queen of the Netherlands,



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« Reply #1609 on: May 11, 2008, 10:32:47 PM »


Yes, I should say there is.  I wonder the last time Arubagirl checked her website?  Wow, just wow.
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« Reply #1610 on: May 11, 2008, 10:40:26 PM »


Yes, I should say there is.  I wonder the last time Arubagirl checked her website?  Wow, just wow.

Yup,mental torture and human rights violations,lying witnesses,missing statements,false evidence,manipulating the law,forgery,covering up crimes,threatening to kill him and 100% corruption. The same evil group does it to everyone that challenges them as the Holloways and Mr.Matthews are not the only victims.
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« Reply #1611 on: May 11, 2008, 11:12:01 PM »

Here ya go Caps..A picture of the feared super dirty hands..Early in the case we learned of a man that said he helped bury Natalee with two others but was committed to a Mental Institution. I wonder if he is this same Fransisco questioned on June 10th and if this Kuiperdal had anything to do with that.

Name: Elgen Fransisco Kock
Date: 10 June 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Fleur Tromp
Description: witness statement



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The Misier Car rental business in Aruba

http://www.american-car-rental.com/american/home.do

The Misier's own several car rental companies on the island.  Here's another....Janira also owns the V.I.P. Club.

QUALITY CAR RENTAL, TOURS AND BOAT SERVICES N.V. 
 
Business address NOORD 17, NOORD 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  QUALITY CAR RENTAL, TOURS AND BOAT SERVICES N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  18 FEBRUARY 1999 
Last amendment in the articles  5 MAY 2000 
         
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
BAIDJNATH MISIER-KELKBOOM, JANIRA FRANCINA; 
Residing in  ALTO VISTA 76-B, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 30 JUNE 1971 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  25 FEBRUARY 1999 
Authority  RESTRICTED 
   
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« Reply #1612 on: May 11, 2008, 11:27:02 PM »

With the recent discussions here regarding Patrick van Der Eem's relationship with Joran and family prior to Devries, I thought I would bring over *******'s post from the NH thread:

******* wrote:

Lorenzo Van Rijn on hyves..I see he used his arrest picture and has Patrick on his friends list

http://lorenzovanrijn666.hyves.nl/friends/

Nuff said.





IMO somebody has been very creative in creating Lorenzo's site.
That somebody is not Lorenzo.
 

Thanks, Magnolia.  Very neat package, eh?  I hardly ever use my mugshot for my myspace page.

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« Reply #1613 on: May 12, 2008, 02:00:35 AM »

With the recent discussions here regarding Patrick van Der Eem's relationship with Joran and family prior to Devries, I thought I would bring over *******'s post from the NH thread:

******* wrote:

Lorenzo Van Rijn on hyves..I see he used his arrest picture and has Patrick on his friends list

http://lorenzovanrijn666.hyves.nl/friends/

Nuff said.





IMO somebody has been very creative in creating Lorenzo's site.
That somebody is not Lorenzo.
 

Thanks, Magnolia.  Very neat package, eh?  I hardly ever use my mugshot for my myspace page.


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« Reply #1614 on: May 12, 2008, 02:02:29 AM »


Yes, I should say there is.  I wonder the last time Arubagirl checked her website?  Wow, just wow.
I Agree AZSunny...WOW!  You think She knows?
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Yes, I should say there is.  I wonder the last time Arubagirl checked her website?  Wow, just wow.
I Agree AZSunny...WOW!  You think She knows?


Blimey...Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! It is a small world after all! 

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« Reply #1616 on: May 12, 2008, 10:00:41 AM »


Yes, I should say there is.  I wonder the last time Arubagirl checked her website?  Wow, just wow.
I Agree AZSunny...WOW!  You think She knows?

No,  I don't think she does.  What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1617 on: May 12, 2008, 11:01:48 AM »

This letter is from the above link

My open letter to mrs Beth Twitty, duped because of Aruba

The Hague, The Netherlands, 25th of April 2008

Dear mrs Elizabeth (Beth) Twitty,

I, Carlos Severino Tromp, am the builder, owner, and writer of the Dutch website
www. koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com and I want to apologise to you through this letter via the website YOU TUBE for the injustice the ministry of Aruba has done to you, because injustice is injustice. I understand your pain and meekness as a human being and mother of Nathalee Holloway, and I also want to express my support for you, because you have lost the battle, but not the war! There is, alas, no justice in my country of birth Aruba, because the government of Nelson Orlando Oduber Prime Minister is corrupt, the eleven puppet members of parliament, and their president, mrs Marvin Wyatt-Ras, are nothing more than puppets who protect corruption. The Public Prosecuting Agency of Aruba (OM) Havenstraat #2, Oranjestad, Aruba, is a political Organisation and together with the communal Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba they have degenerated into a house of worship of Satan.

Also the very corrupt crown civil servants, the violators of human rights: the Public Prosecutors General, Mr. Drs. Teresa Diana Croes Fernandez Pedra and the monster Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo who on a daily basis violates justice and human rights,

(it is namely not for nothing that the now former commissary of police and inspector,
Gerold Dompig, has thoroughly beaten her up. What is piquaint, however, is that he
was not prosecuted for this severe maltreatment and even this incident was covered up
by the local authorities of Aruba and that the motherland the Netherlands has, as usual,
again closed her eyes to this serious fact) mrs Teresa Diana Croes and Elivia Lugo
together with her colleagues; whom have perfected and legalised corruption there with
the blessing of the corrupt Hyancintho Rudolfo Croes (Rudygate), minister of justice,
for whom the motherland the Netherlands takes a bow!
They are not to be trusted, falsify documents, commit forgery, manipulate the law, commit great injustice, so that justice there in fact has degenerated into justice metered out by tyrants and a lot more devious things against humanity and human rights, with the cooperation of many corrupt Dutch and Aruba lawyers, whom have all done such under the auspices of the kingdom of the Netherlands, which has therefore degenerated into a
lowlife banana republic.
KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS (Do no wrong in your judging: give thought to the position of the poor, do not only honor the position of the great; but be a judge to your neighbor in righteousness. Leviticus 19:15)

This is the reason that Nathalee Holloway has become missing and Joran van der Sloot is untouchable within that banana republic, the kingdom of the netherlands.

Joran van der Sloot would now have become a persona non grata. I have to laugh at this, because that is only a sly joke and a smoke curtain coming from the henchman of Satan with the nickname “Rudygate” sitting on the post of the secretary of justice of the very corrupt STATUS APARTE of Aruba, entitled as a den of thieves: the insular territory Aruba, being a part of the dutch banana republic. It is further totally irrelevant whether there is or is not a governor of Aruba, because this current governor is blind, deaf and mute concerning the crimes of his former political party MEP that is in power.

A part of the populace is tainted with corruption. Just ask the former E.U. member of Parliament mr. Frits Bolkestein and the dutch Second Chamber member mr. Hero Brinkman; they are witnesses, because they have called Aruba a litter of robbers and a den of thieves.

But do not think that I am surprised, because of the fact that the International Transparency rapports of Berlin have also entitled the motherland the Netherlands as being number seven on the list of all the corrupt countries in the world! Bad trees do not give good fruits!!

The dutch government closes its eyes to the crimes taking place on Aruba against humanity and human rights in name of the head of state, the Queen, Mrs Beatrix. And the dutch Prime Minister Mr Drs Jan Peter Balkenende believes in his half truths and is helping the corrupt government of Aruba Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber to fool the people and the world with a crooked rapport of the IMF into believing that the economy of Aruba is sound. Jan Peter Balkenende appears not to have feelings or be ashamed of his lies, or else he must be totally incompetent! Because how is it then possible that Aruba has only 120.000 inhabitants but a national debt of more than one billion guilders, while 80% of the populace has fallen into poverty? This has only been possible with the very corrupt cartel of Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber, Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes (alias Rudygate), Marisol Lopez-Tromp (queen of corruption), Nilo Swaen who is manipulating figures on the ministry of finance, Ramon (the sex maniac) Lee, Eddie Briezen Namdar, Booshi (Mr false diploma) Wever and cronies.
But it is understandable that dirty hands cannot clean anything what is dirty and IF Satan rises against Satan, he is fighting against himself and destroys his own kingdom; thus states the Holy Bible!

I advise you to start a legal procedure against the insular territory of Aruba, the Dutch state or the Kingdom of the Netherlands, because the government of Aruba is lying to the world under the auspices of the kingdom of the netherlands, that lowlife banana republic, that Aruba is a safe and secure island for tourism; even for the people there is no justice, while there exists no security of law, no justice on that little island, neither that so called democracy!
Because corruption is in power on Aruba and the government under the Cabinet of Nelson Orlando Oduber has changed the insular territory of Aruba into a den of thieves!
I cordially welcome you to the website written in the Dutch and in English languages www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com & www.dutchkingdomclassjustice.info ,
so that you can get an impression of the total injustice that has manifested itself on Aruba.
Probably on the 25th of April 2008 or in the near future a new website will appear in the English language called www.arubainjustice.info You are of course welcome to check it out.



“DAME CLASS JUSTICE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS” Do not Err; God is not made sport of: for whatever seed a man puts in, he will get back as grain. Galatians 6-7


DAME ? JUSTICE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS; JUSTICE NOW OR NEVER !!”

You are absolutely invited to pass on this letter to the press, television any media.


Yours Sincerely,


C.S. Tromp


Posted by: Carlos Severino Tromp | April 25, 2008 at 06:11 PM

I, Carlos Severino Tromp, born in Aruba, and having the Dutch nationality, one of the victims of and also one of the duped persons of the head of state of the Netherlands, do hereby address an open letter to the head of state, Beatrix
Wilhelmina Armguard, queen of the Netherlands,





This dude has an interesting rhythm.  While this may have been posted at AG's sight (once considered to have been Simian or Shango) I think it is appropriate that it now shows up on a post in the SHANGO/SIMIAN: Who are they and what did they know thread.

I think this guy may have been Shango.
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« Reply #1618 on: May 12, 2008, 11:24:51 AM »

Seems Carlos has been posting on the SM Front Page.  On 03/17/08 he made a post on an old thread that had not had a post since 07/14/07 :

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/07/aruban-ethics-former-minister-tico-croes-violated-the-budget-law/

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« Reply #1619 on: May 12, 2008, 11:26:15 AM »

Truthseeker...Interesting thought! One or two things jumped out at me as well...Jogged my memory! 

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