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« Reply #1640 on: May 12, 2008, 06:39:54 PM »

Very hard to read this eloquent account of what sounds like Arubian injustice to me....and not wonder loudly if the disappearance of one Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp, age 30, is not somehow connected.

Disappear a relative and shutup one :Carlos Severino Tromp? Does anyone know if these 2 men are related?

Not a bad question.  When did he die?
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« Reply #1641 on: May 12, 2008, 06:41:10 PM »

Very hard to read this eloquent account of what sounds like Arubian injustice to me....and not wonder loudly if the disappearance of one Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp, age 30, is not somehow connected.

Disappear a relative and shutup one :Carlos Severino Tromp? Does anyone know if these 2 men are related?

Not a bad question.  When did he die?

Been missing since november 27, 2007.
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« Reply #1642 on: May 12, 2008, 06:41:19 PM »

Very hard to read this eloquent account of what sounds like Arubian injustice to me....and not wonder loudly if the disappearance of one Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp, age 30, is not somehow connected.

Disappear a relative and shutup one :Carlos Severino Tromp? Does anyone know if these 2 men are related?

Not a bad question.  When did he die?

Nevermind.  I see that he has been missing and TES is trying to help find him.
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« Reply #1643 on: May 12, 2008, 06:48:39 PM »

Very hard to read this eloquent account of what sounds like Arubian injustice to me....and not wonder loudly if the disappearance of one Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp, age 30, is not somehow connected.

Disappear a relative and shutup one :Carlos Severino Tromp? Does anyone know if these 2 men are related?

Not a bad question.  When did he die?

Nevermind.  I see that he has been missing and TES is trying to help find him.

Yes exactly.
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« Reply #1644 on: May 12, 2008, 06:54:44 PM »

Do you remember this?

This is the 05/31/2005 murder reported in the RU post.

05/31/2005 – Rastaman “C.E.M.” fatally stabbed another man (victim Juni Tromp) on the beach.
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« Reply #1645 on: May 12, 2008, 06:58:13 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.
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« Reply #1646 on: May 12, 2008, 06:58:51 PM »

Do you remember this?

This is the 05/31/2005 murder reported in the RU post.

05/31/2005 – Rastaman “C.E.M.” fatally stabbed another man (victim Juni Tromp) on the beach.
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Posted 8/19/2006 at M&C by Sharon; credit to dkpen & BLEACHEDBLACK. Also by Appeals 8/29

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of course I remember... happened the same night.
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« Reply #1647 on: May 12, 2008, 07:07:42 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

PROCES-VERBAAL

Signee, Julio Cesar SAMBO, under-inspector first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, also operational commander and assigned to District II, declares the following.

On June 9th 2005 at approximately 05.45 hours, at the location of Montanja number 19, was arrested the man:

---------Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT----------

Born in the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, student and living at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX on Aruba.

There also was a search of the appartement of J.A.P. van der SLOOT performed and goods were impounded in the interest of further investigations.

During the interviews with the suspect van der SLOOT and his fellow suspects there were contradictory statements about among others the dropping off of the girl, this has raised suspicions that the missing girl “Natalee” very likely could have been at/near the apartment of van der SLOOT.

Because of this (suspicion) there are grounds to further search/investigate the appartement and to forensically process the car's of the parents.

Of this I have made this proces-verbaal closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 13th 2005.

the reporting officer

J.C. SAMBO

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« Reply #1648 on: May 12, 2008, 07:11:48 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

PROCES-VERBAAL

Signee, Julio Cesar SAMBO, under-inspector first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, also operational commander and assigned to District II, declares the following.

On June 9th 2005 at approximately 05.45 hours, at the location of Montanja number 19, was arrested the man:

---------Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT----------

Born in the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, student and living at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX on Aruba.

There also was a search of the appartement of J.A.P. van der SLOOT performed and goods were impounded in the interest of further investigations.

During the interviews with the suspect van der SLOOT and his fellow suspects there were contradictory statements about among others the dropping off of the girl, this has raised suspicions that the missing girl “Natalee” very likely could have been at/near the apartment of van der SLOOT.

Because of this (suspicion) there are grounds to further search/investigate the appartement and to forensically process the car's of the parents.

Of this I have made this proces-verbaal closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 13th 2005.

the reporting officer

J.C. SAMBO

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http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/jv0609-1.jpg

 
 


Police and volunteer land searches continued Wednesday with no results, while water searches, also unsuccessful, had been suspended “at this time,” police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said. “We’re getting tips,” he said, adding nothing has panned out yet.

The two men were arrested Sunday on suspicion of first- and second-degree murder and capital kidnapping, the latter of which is invoked when a kidnapping victim is killed, according to court-appointed defense attorneys Noraina Pietersz and Chris Lejuez.

Judge J.S. Kuiperdal will review the case June 15 and every eight days after that if needed, officials said. Authorities may hold the suspects for 116 days without filing formal charges.

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Police Assistant Inspector Jules Sambo. (No Picture Available.)

"We don't have any indication as to if she is alive," Sambo said. "The whole population is aware that she is missing. The police are doing everything to find her."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158384,00.html

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« Reply #1649 on: May 12, 2008, 07:19:53 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

I think I have a photo of Sambo.

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« Reply #1650 on: May 12, 2008, 07:21:50 PM »

Do you remember this?

This is the 05/31/2005 murder reported in the RU post.

05/31/2005 – Rastaman “C.E.M.” fatally stabbed another man (victim Juni Tromp) on the beach.
Diario
Posted 8/19/2006 at M&C by Sharon; credit to dkpen & BLEACHEDBLACK. Also by Appeals 8/29

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of course I remember... happened the same night.

Well, One Happy Island 'lost' a tourist and had a murder on the beach within 48 hours.  While the name Tromp initially piqued my curiosity, I had not seen this post before and it seemed odd to me.  At that very moment, when that guy was stabbed to death, Aruba spokespeople were drumming up the "We don't have murders on Aruba" banter that they touted on our news shows for weeks and months after Natalee went missing.

Does anyone know if the the outcome of the 'invetigation' into this guy's murder?
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« Reply #1651 on: May 12, 2008, 07:23:17 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

Max DeVries?  Well, Mr. Sambo is very busy...and very low-profile.
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« Reply #1652 on: May 12, 2008, 07:23:48 PM »

What is most interesting is the context of the article in which this cop is ID'd. Let me also say that his ID was confirmed by
a resident of Aruba. I tend to believe her and think her credible.

http://www.ikeepadiary.com/diary/2004/01_22_aruba_vacation/frame_index.html
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« Reply #1653 on: May 12, 2008, 07:26:59 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

I think I have a photo of Sambo.



BB  the guy on the left?
 I have had that picture for three years with no name exept ALE on it

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« Reply #1655 on: May 12, 2008, 07:30:55 PM »

This guy is involved in Max and Natalee's case.

Junior inspector J.C. Sambo.

there are no known photos of him.

I think I have a photo of Sambo.



BB  the guy on the left?
 I have had that picture for three years with no name exept ALE on it

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« Reply #1656 on: May 12, 2008, 07:34:27 PM »

Do you remember this?

This is the 05/31/2005 murder reported in the RU post.

05/31/2005 – Rastaman “C.E.M.” fatally stabbed another man (victim Juni Tromp) on the beach.
Diario
Posted 8/19/2006 at M&C by Sharon; credit to dkpen & BLEACHEDBLACK. Also by Appeals 8/29

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of course I remember... happened the same night.

Well, One Happy Island 'lost' a tourist and had a murder on the beach within 48 hours.  While the name Tromp initially piqued my curiosity, I had not seen this post before and it seemed odd to me.  At that very moment, when that guy was stabbed to death, Aruba spokespeople were drumming up the "We don't have murders on Aruba" banter that they touted on our news shows for weeks and months after Natalee went missing.

Does anyone know if the the outcome of the 'invetigation' into this guy's murder?

Hi ya TS -
Actually it would have been the same night right? because Natalee didn't leave CnC til after 1 am and Tromp got stab that evening IIRC..maybe I have it wrong and it was with in 24 hours then and only.

BB - I have seen that pic.. is it Sambo with the guy that's friend almost got homosexually assaulted?
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Does anyone know if the the outcome of the 'invetigation' into this guy's murder?

oh, there was a trail and he was convicted IIRC and I think I do in this case.
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« Reply #1658 on: May 12, 2008, 07:39:14 PM »

Yes Rob that's the guy. At the time this "article/diary" was posted, the person who ID'd Sambo said she was surprised to see him, that he didn't like his picture taken. I think at the time she said referred to him as a police captain.
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« Reply #1659 on: May 12, 2008, 07:44:00 PM »

Yes Rob that's the guy. At the time this "article/diary" was posted, the person who ID'd Sambo said she was surprised to see him, that he didn't like his picture taken. I think at the time she said referred to him as a police captain.

Thanks BB... one small glitch with Tromp.. Juni = Junior... do we have his real name??? I don't believe I have or I have forgotten it.

Sambo was a 1st class inspector when Natalee went missing. I have also noticed that everyone tells the tourists they are the polis captain, seems to be an epidemic down there. LOL

That is the only known photo of Sambo, so I believe he does not like to have his picture taken.

I can verify it in a sec. Give me a few minutes.
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