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« Reply #1860 on: May 21, 2008, 07:55:38 AM »


Thanks 2NJSons…jogged my memory on a few things.

Gabe was probably here on a student visa and some-one sponsored him so he could stay.

I recall when Freddy was detained that there was a post about a cousin in the US. So Ernesto may have come on a visitor’s visa and then applied for permanent status.

IIRC, you are not allowed to work on a visitor’s visa and would have needed a return ticket. Pretty sure with a Student visa that a one way ticket would be allowed. Not sure of the employment restrictions.

Sharon…Last week I found a Mynt Ultralounge in Columbus, Ohio. Didn’t find Ernesto, but really didn’t search very much. Maybe I should take a look at the Columbus newspapers…LOL

Would be really weird if Ernesto has moved from your backyard to close to mine!

Buckeye   

Thanks everyone...had forgotten about the domestic violence case.


Good morning Mum 

I think it would be awesome if Ernie went to Ohio to open another Mynt lounge 

To add to the 'visa' discussion -- I have had employees 'sponsored' by the company I was working at in the past. Several times. From different countries. It takes a very very very long time. Usually several years.

But there are other types of work Visa's. And student visa's. Some are much faster. Also -- some countries garner more attention than others.

Dealt with this a lot when I worked with the cruise lines.

If I were to 'guess' who was sponsoring Gabe -- my first choice would be AHATA just down the block from his house 



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« Reply #1861 on: May 21, 2008, 08:33:43 AM »


Thanks 2NJSons…jogged my memory on a few things.

Gabe was probably here on a student visa and some-one sponsored him so he could stay.

I recall when Freddy was detained that there was a post about a cousin in the US. So Ernesto may have come on a visitor’s visa and then applied for permanent status.

IIRC, you are not allowed to work on a visitor’s visa and would have needed a return ticket. Pretty sure with a Student visa that a one way ticket would be allowed. Not sure of the employment restrictions.

Sharon…Last week I found a Mynt Ultralounge in Columbus, Ohio. Didn’t find Ernesto, but really didn’t search very much. Maybe I should take a look at the Columbus newspapers…LOL

Would be really weird if Ernesto has moved from your backyard to close to mine!

Buckeye   

Thanks everyone...had forgotten about the domestic violence case.


Good morning Mum 

I think it would be awesome if Ernie went to Ohio to open another Mynt lounge 

To add to the 'visa' discussion -- I have had employees 'sponsored' by the company I was working at in the past. Several times. From different countries. It takes a very very very long time. Usually several years.

But there are other types of work Visa's. And student visa's. Some are much faster. Also -- some countries garner more attention than others.

Dealt with this a lot when I worked with the cruise lines.

If I were to 'guess' who was sponsoring Gabe -- my first choice would be AHATA just down the block from his house 






Sharon…May have to go down to the next Art Walk on High Street!

I bet you are right on Gabe…Are both AHATA and ATA there?

You are right that some visas go through a lot quicker. Marrying an American is a lot quicker process, or so I am told, still a lot of red tape and much quicker with an Immigration lawyer. IIRC this is another instance when a one way ticket is allowed.

At the other end, Aruba, it appears that the likes of Rick Zeolla would apply for a one year work permit and then could apply for a three year one. This would go through Rudy, DINA. I wonder about Charles Croes. Did he ever marry an Aruban or Dutch woman? Not sure if he is married at all! I think Rosalee did, Captain Jethro. What about Angela, Julia?

Pretty powerful stick that our friend Rudy holds…


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« Reply #1862 on: May 21, 2008, 08:37:23 AM »


Thanks 2NJSons…jogged my memory on a few things.

Gabe was probably here on a student visa and some-one sponsored him so he could stay.

I recall when Freddy was detained that there was a post about a cousin in the US. So Ernesto may have come on a visitor’s visa and then applied for permanent status.

IIRC, you are not allowed to work on a visitor’s visa and would have needed a return ticket. Pretty sure with a Student visa that a one way ticket would be allowed. Not sure of the employment restrictions.

Sharon…Last week I found a Mynt Ultralounge in Columbus, Ohio. Didn’t find Ernesto, but really didn’t search very much. Maybe I should take a look at the Columbus newspapers…LOL

Would be really weird if Ernesto has moved from your backyard to close to mine!

Buckeye   

Thanks everyone...had forgotten about the domestic violence case.


Good morning Mum 

I think it would be awesome if Ernie went to Ohio to open another Mynt lounge 

To add to the 'visa' discussion -- I have had employees 'sponsored' by the company I was working at in the past. Several times. From different countries. It takes a very very very long time. Usually several years.

But there are other types of work Visa's. And student visa's. Some are much faster. Also -- some countries garner more attention than others.

Dealt with this a lot when I worked with the cruise lines.

If I were to 'guess' who was sponsoring Gabe -- my first choice would be AHATA just down the block from his house 






Sharon…May have to go down to the next Art Walk on High Street!

I bet you are right on Gabe…Are both AHATA and ATA there?

You are right that some visas go through a lot quicker. Marrying an American is a lot quicker process, or so I am told, still a lot of red tape and much quicker with an Immigration lawyer. IIRC this is another instance when a one way ticket is allowed.

At the other end, Aruba, it appears that the likes of Rick Zeolla would apply for a one year work permit and then could apply for a three year one. This would go through Rudy, DINA. I wonder about Charles Croes. Did he ever marry an Aruban or Dutch woman? Not sure if he is married at all! I think Rosalee did, Captain Jethro. What about Angela, Julia?

Pretty powerful stick that our friend Rudy holds…


Ya mean like Ernesto did? 
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« Reply #1863 on: May 21, 2008, 08:50:49 AM »

Rob...had a quick look to see if there was UA at North Perry, didn't find one. Did find some interesting reading under Universal Weather and Aviation though. 

Lala's...from a few pages back...'a bone to pick' jmo

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I found a Universal Air, but it's for helicopters.

I think the Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport is the one Oduber uses. So, I'm not sure how the North Perry fits into anything yet.... any ideas?


Sorry Rob...I meant to reply yesterday! It may be just that is where Gabe lives. North Perry, I mean.

If we are looking at Oduber and private jets we may need to take a look at Fort Lauderdale Executive and I think there is a Fort Lauderdale International.

Sharon...for that conference in June 2005 in Fort Lauderdale, which both Oduber and Condi Rice attended, do you think that Condi would have flown into Miami International?
TIA

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Sorry Rob...I meant to reply yesterday! It may be just that is where Gabe lives. North Perry, I mean.

If we are looking at Oduber and private jets we may need to take a look at Fort Lauderdale Executive and I think there is a Fort Lauderdale International.

Sharon...for that conference in June 2005 in Fort Lauderdale, which both Oduber and Condi Rice attended, do you think that Condi would have flown into Miami International?
TIA

YEP Sharon   ...do you recall the date he was married?


http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/cfndetails.asp?pcfn_year=2007&pcfn_seq=98246&grp=1&page=1

Divorce was finalized 01/07. I know I have the marriage date somewhere. Will need to look.


Depending on where Condi was flying from -- my bet is still MIA (Miami Int'l). It's the best place to be able to provide security (ha ha -- as an 86 year old man crashed thru the chain link fence to the airport a few weeks ago)

I have been caught several times with the 'motorcades' for an official take off or landing  And the 'escort' motorcades -- like to the debates at U of M.

We are sometimes, but not usually, informed in advance - due to road closures and traffic detours -- and it's usually shown on TV.

That would be for Condi. Or Bush. I doubt for Oduber 

I'll have to pay attention -- all 3 candidates are in Florida this week (Hillary, McCain and Hussein -- I mean Obama  ) didn't hear that they came in MIA, though.
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« Reply #1865 on: May 21, 2008, 02:47:20 PM »



Sorry Rob...I meant to reply yesterday! It may be just that is where Gabe lives. North Perry, I mean.

If we are looking at Oduber and private jets we may need to take a look at Fort Lauderdale Executive and I think there is a Fort Lauderdale International.

Sharon...for that conference in June 2005 in Fort Lauderdale, which both Oduber and Condi Rice attended, do you think that Condi would have flown into Miami International?
TIA

YEP Sharon   ...do you recall the date he was married?


http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/cfndetails.asp?pcfn_year=2007&pcfn_seq=98246&grp=1&page=1

Divorce was finalized 01/07. I know I have the marriage date somewhere. Will need to look.


Depending on where Condi was flying from -- my bet is still MIA (Miami Int'l). It's the best place to be able to provide security (ha ha -- as an 86 year old man crashed thru the chain link fence to the airport a few weeks ago)

I have been caught several times with the 'motorcades' for an official take off or landing  And the 'escort' motorcades -- like to the debates at U of M.

We are sometimes, but not usually, informed in advance - due to road closures and traffic detours -- and it's usually shown on TV.

That would be for Condi. Or Bush. I doubt for Oduber 

I'll have to pay attention -- all 3 candidates are in Florida this week (Hillary, McCain and Hussein -- I mean Obama  ) didn't hear that they came in MIA, though.

Obama sounds a bit too close to Osama to suite many people.  That took some gall to run for president and make out like he has  a black man's soul. I would have voted for General Powell, but not no muzzy making out like he is a real black man to get black votes.  General Powell had too much sense to get in that pit of vipers making out like they have this country's best interest in mind.  The Dems and Repubs are all out of the same cut of cloth.  They just take up different issues so that one of them will get elected and they can still cohort and divide up the "pie" the real Americans have bought and paid for with their blood, sweat and tears.
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Sorry Rob...I meant to reply yesterday! It may be just that is where Gabe lives. North Perry, I mean.

If we are looking at Oduber and private jets we may need to take a look at Fort Lauderdale Executive and I think there is a Fort Lauderdale International.

Sharon...for that conference in June 2005 in Fort Lauderdale, which both Oduber and Condi Rice attended, do you think that Condi would have flown into Miami International?
TIA

YEP Sharon   ...do you recall the date he was married?


http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/cfndetails.asp?pcfn_year=2007&pcfn_seq=98246&grp=1&page=1

Divorce was finalized 01/07. I know I have the marriage date somewhere. Will need to look.


Depending on where Condi was flying from -- my bet is still MIA (Miami Int'l). It's the best place to be able to provide security (ha ha -- as an 86 year old man crashed thru the chain link fence to the airport a few weeks ago)

I have been caught several times with the 'motorcades' for an official take off or landing  And the 'escort' motorcades -- like to the debates at U of M.

We are sometimes, but not usually, informed in advance - due to road closures and traffic detours -- and it's usually shown on TV.

That would be for Condi. Or Bush. I doubt for Oduber 

I'll have to pay attention -- all 3 candidates are in Florida this week (Hillary, McCain and Hussein -- I mean Obama  ) didn't hear that they came in MIA, though.
Sharon

Good Morning and Thanks...I was in the main thread getting steamed about ISA...needed a laugh...

Just in case you missed this posted by Hotping last week...

Ernesto Arambatzis DOB 8/18/77 3470 East Coast Ave Apt#504 Miami Fl Issued 1/30/2006...original issue date 12/12/95..there are also two other addresses....7934 W Drive Loft Apt 1001 and 7934 West Drive, North Bay Village Fl...

From what I could find it appears the building was built in 2007...I got that from all the Realtor's sites.

Scuba said that Freddy's family had a big reunion that weekend...something to the effect that he had an airtight alibi...I can find the post if you want.

I am pretty sure Ernesto was in Aruba that weekend.




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Is that the only pose those boys know?  It seems Dompig had a pose like this.  Same agency.
That little GVC snit was a model too.  Wonder if they got one of him and his blanket?  jackb
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« Reply #1867 on: May 21, 2008, 06:18:49 PM »


Hello, hello. Ernesto Arambatzis demonstrating
the uses of a cell phone at RUMI.


Thursday Night: Ready for a new party at a new location? Try visiting Sabor (formerly Breeze below Billboardlive) for a new party brought to you by some of your favorite promoters (including Jose Oritz and Ernesto Arambatzis). (This is where the Hilton Sisters threw a New Year’s Recovery party.)

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« Reply #1868 on: May 21, 2008, 06:25:32 PM »




Think Erenesto is the one in the back.
http://tinyurl.com/6a86us

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« Reply #1869 on: May 21, 2008, 06:35:38 PM »



  Ernesto's Details
Status:   Single
Orientation:   Gay
Zodiac Sign:   Leo
Education:   College graduate

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=105566154
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« Reply #1870 on: May 21, 2008, 07:05:44 PM »

I wonder why Freddy told people not to call him Arambatzis but just Zedan.
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« Reply #1871 on: May 21, 2008, 07:18:01 PM »

Not really clear how the family name thing works.
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« Reply #1872 on: May 22, 2008, 07:08:53 AM »

I wonder why Freddy told people not to call him Arambatzis but just Zedan.


Hi *******…I think he said that around the time he was arrested in August. I don’t think there ever were any charges. Maybe he didn’t want to be confused with Freddy Arends, or maybe Ernesto didn’t like the bad press associated with the name Arambatzis…LOL

BB…I never did work out the names either…wonder what went along with Ernesto Arambatzis…

This is the pic of Ernesto that I think looks like the ‘evil’ pic of Freddy.

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« Reply #1873 on: May 22, 2008, 07:14:18 AM »


For Lala’s…….A Jackie Croes at the ACB...not sure who is at ATA...Any idea anyone?

http://www.arubaconventionbureau.com/
http://dutch.aruba.com/pages/contact.htm

Ft. LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA, VS

Aruba Tourism Authority
One Financial Plaza, Suite 2508
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33394   Phone: (954) 767-6477Fax: (954) 767-0432   ata.florida@aruba.com

Aruba Convention Bureau
One Financial Plaza, Suite 2508
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33394   Phone: (954) 767-3395Fax: (954) 767-0714   ata.acb@aruba.com

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« Reply #1874 on: May 22, 2008, 11:37:33 AM »

Rob....I knew the University of Aruba had a Hospitality Course and found that tied to the University of Central Florida. This has FIU listed as one of the colleges that credits will transfer to.

Hospitality & Tourism

http://epiaruba.com/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=53
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« Reply #1875 on: May 22, 2008, 02:14:24 PM »

NEW UPDATED MAP

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« Reply #1876 on: May 22, 2008, 02:23:48 PM »

Rob....I knew the University of Aruba had a Hospitality Course and found that tied to the University of Central Florida. This has FIU listed as one of the colleges that credits will transfer to.

Hospitality & Tourism

http://epiaruba.com/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=53



Thanks Mum... now we have a definite link to Aruba. Now I need a link to a specific person. And this area could be solved. We're getting closer.
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« Reply #1877 on: May 22, 2008, 02:28:04 PM »

just found this link between the ATA and the Brickell

Juan Keyter
Sales & Marketing Manager
Brickell Bay Beach Resort
Palm Beach, Aruba
Dutch Caribbean
Tel: +297 586-0900
Fax: 297 586-4957

sales@brickellbayaruba.cm

http://forum.aruba.com/member.php?u=263

not sure this is anything more than a link from the ATA to Posner.
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« Reply #1878 on: May 22, 2008, 02:33:58 PM »


For Lala’s…….A Jackie Croes at the ACB...not sure who is at ATA...Any idea anyone?

jo.croes
ATA representative

http://forum.aruba.com/member.php?u=17
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« Reply #1879 on: May 22, 2008, 02:38:45 PM »

I think I posted this one before. 

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