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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2008, 11:14:22 AM »



I have found 2 other one

Fantasy Escort Service & Massage

Heaven Massage & Escort

we need the one that is connected to Guido Wever and also connected to the NEWS, Julia Renfro.

 

Would the one connected to Guido not be a male escort service?  I have read it somewhere...connected to that modeling agency that Guido and GVC and Hiram are involved in...darn it...I can't remember the name right now.

Ronchi de Cuba?

http://www.dailytrendz.com/dtlaunch.html
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2008, 11:15:07 AM »

Lala's...LOL...not many Zedans...huge company .sa - not South America - Saudi Arabia...LOL...have followed Freddy around the globe this past weekend.

Caps...which apartments are you talking about...the Dilk(sp) or Dijkoff ones, or another, it's hard to go back and find stuff in the threads...and I have an index!!


There are 3 of these apartment.

one is called the Whitehouse or MOKO 30
the other 2 check.

it is 1 of the 3 places they must have used if they use an escort service to hide the plan

some of these escort services uses a cell phone.

but this one uses the The News phone number to get in.

BRB will get a paper

Don't forget...follow the star!  That would be the Whitehouse apartments.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2008, 11:16:11 AM »



I have found 2 other one

Fantasy Escort Service & Massage

Heaven Massage & Escort

we need the one that is connected to Guido Wever and also connected to the NEWS, Julia Renfro.

 

Would the one connected to Guido not be a male escort service?  I have read it somewhere...connected to that modeling agency that Guido and GVC and Hiram are involved in...darn it...I can't remember the name right now.

Ronchi de Cuba?

http://www.dailytrendz.com/dtlaunch.html

Thanks Klaas!  I could see the strange looking man/girl/whatever, but I couldn't remember the name.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2008, 11:45:27 AM »

here is the link to the apartments in the old, old thread...confused...2 have a star, one has a pool, not all are Dutch...I'm following Mirian!...Freddy knows!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.1620
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2008, 12:05:28 PM »

Caps…Mentioned this on the last thread and it has me thinking….What about Geoffrey Wever, from Wever Croes and Tchong? It appears he is Hendrik’s son. From the website he was at University in Holland and it is very probable he was home for the summer.

There has been much posted about a Dutch guy, “G” over from Amsterdam for the summer, had his own apartment and worked in the casino. Leiden University is right by Amsterdam. (My regal orange visage!)

We know that Guido did not go to the Netherlands as early as June 1st. or 2nd. as we have statements from him.  We have heard that Guido was an intern at the casino and at the Racquet Club, Racquet Club makes more sense for Guido.

Frumpy Guido just doesn't seem to fit here!

Is there a chance that Guido and Geoffrey have become intertwined?
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2008, 12:25:53 PM »

Sorry it was Hendrik at Leiden. (Does that make him His Lordship?)... Geoffrey at the University of Amsterdam.

Fits with the age of 24 we were given for Guido and guess what….a December birthday!

Link to Geoffrey Wever!

http://www.lawyersaruba.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=21

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2008, 12:50:10 PM »



I have found 2 other one

Fantasy Escort Service & Massage

Heaven Massage & Escort

we need the one that is connected to Guido Wever and also connected to the NEWS, Julia Renfro.

 

Would the one connected to Guido not be a male escort service?  I have read it somewhere...connected to that modeling agency that Guido and GVC and Hiram are involved in...darn it...I can't remember the name right now.

Ronchi de Cuba?

http://www.dailytrendz.com/dtlaunch.html

Hiram was associated in the past with Guia Fashion.  His birthday pics were posted at this site but have since been taken down.

http://www.guiafashion.com/
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »

Caps…Mentioned this on the last thread and it has me thinking….What about Geoffrey Wever, from Wever Croes and Tchong? It appears he is Hendrik’s son. From the website he was at University in Holland and it is very probable he was home for the summer.

There has been much posted about a Dutch guy, “G” over from Amsterdam for the summer, had his own apartment and worked in the casino. Leiden University is right by Amsterdam. (My regal orange visage!)

We know that Guido did not go to the Netherlands as early as June 1st. or 2nd. as we have statements from him.  We have heard that Guido was an intern at the casino and at the Racquet Club, Racquet Club makes more sense for Guido.

Frumpy Guido just doesn't seem to fit here!

Is there a chance that Guido and Geoffrey have become intertwined?


It is defenetly in the Croes Famaly that this case has originated.

All the writing show to protect the Elder.

Now for what I do understand is the "The Boy" is the killer and not Joran.

The Father (?????) loves the boy to Much and he sing. He told a story to protect him self and his lineage (The Croes Name)

The sloot kid was is the scapegoat. maybe there is a look a like of this Boy

The movie session are there...from some whisper they fall under the category "Drunken Girls haven Sex." "Drunken Teens"

Now "the House of Rave" is not music but SEX

Also cRave= SEX

This escort service plans in advanced for these movies. Now The girls will get drunk and them a movie is produced. Sold in europe.

They loor and sweet talk these girls and then find what they like and then use the information to impress them and so these girls falls prey in the game.

The diceman had sex and was filmed in these movies.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 01:14:39 PM »

Caps…Mentioned this on the last thread and it has me thinking….What about Geoffrey Wever, from Wever Croes and Tchong? It appears he is Hendrik’s son. From the website he was at University in Holland and it is very probable he was home for the summer.

There has been much posted about a Dutch guy, “G” over from Amsterdam for the summer, had his own apartment and worked in the casino. Leiden University is right by Amsterdam. (My regal orange visage!)

We know that Guido did not go to the Netherlands as early as June 1st. or 2nd. as we have statements from him.  We have heard that Guido was an intern at the casino and at the Racquet Club, Racquet Club makes more sense for Guido.

Frumpy Guido just doesn't seem to fit here!

Is there a chance that Guido and Geoffrey have become intertwined?


It is defenetly in the Croes Famaly that this case has originated.

All the writing show to protect the Elder.

Now for what I do understand is the "The Boy" is the killer and not Joran.

The Father (?????) loves the boy to Much and he sing. He told a story to protect him self and his lineage (The Croes Name)

The sloot kid was is the scapegoat. maybe there is a look a like of this Boy

The movie session are there...from some whisper they fall under the category "Drunken Girls haven Sex." "Drunken Teens"

Now "the House of Rave" is not music but SEX

Also cRave= SEX

This escort service plans in advanced for these movies. Now The girls will get drunk and them a movie is produced. Sold in europe.

They loor and sweet talk these girls and then find what they like and then use the information to impress them and so these girls falls prey in the game.

The diceman had sex and was filmed in these movies.



From what I remember of that Real estate site, GoldCoastaruba... all the Croes 'boys', either Hendrik or Rudy's did not seem to be a fit in this. Hard to tell, I guess, but I have always had a window open on some-one else going to the Netherlands before Guido.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2008, 01:20:10 PM »

I have seen two different things posted on Rudy's whereabouts...one he was in the Netherlands and returned June 3rd. Caesu checked this out and could not find anything. The other, Buckeye posted: that Gabe Leo posted on the FP that he was in Columbia for a wedding.

Either way, he does not want to be placed in Aruba that night!
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2008, 01:29:47 PM »

Caps...Who are Evelyn's sons? She is Croes-Wever and listed at thar same law firm.

Is Rudy sometimes called Edward/ Eduardo?

And who is Mito Croes? Is he related to Rudy, Hendrick and Evelyn?...TIA
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2008, 01:32:26 PM »

OK...after reading Caps last post, I was thinking of Geraldo's reporting from Aruba about tape (s) as rumored on the street (or to his brother..don't remember exactly), but I believe at that time it was presumed that the Dutch guy was Joran & early in the case.  I just tried to find a transcript, but was not able to find it.  Later, the Freddy arrest came up.....

Was just wondering if the tape story also took on a new life via the rumor mill...new playahs, so to speak....but all involved by association.

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2008, 01:54:52 PM »

OK...after reading Caps last post, I was thinking of Geraldo's reporting from Aruba about tape (s) as rumored on the street (or to his brother..don't remember exactly), but I believe at that time it was presumed that the Dutch guy was Joran & early in the case.  I just tried to find a transcript, but was not able to find it.  Later, the Freddy arrest came up.....

Was just wondering if the tape story also took on a new life via the rumor mill...new playahs, so to speak....but all involved by association.

Yes, I know I may be off the beaten path, unpaved and without gold bricks. 


Hi 2NJSons...Geraldo first mentioned the 'movies' on 6/14 and dropped it like a hot potato, and it didn't surface again until the August arrest of the Kalpoes and Freddy.

I read about the 6/14 one from posts, but I think it was Harry Tho who did a piece saying he never thought he would give credance to Geraldo, that was when the August arrests happened. Couldn't believe that Geraldo was right in what he reported on June 14th.

Not sure that there will be anything out there from June, posters were commenting on what happened to what was reported the previous night, and no follow up!
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 02:02:20 PM »

Caps...Who are Evelyn's sons? She is Croes-Wever and listed at thar same law firm.

Is Rudy sometimes called Edward/ Eduardo?

And who is Mito Croes? Is he related to Rudy, Hendrick and Evelyn?...TIA



Hendrick Croes is married to Mitch Garido

From this marrage came: Edwardo - Evelyn - and another son

My 70 year old friend is telling me that Mitch Garido had another son before. he could not remember this son name.

Now Evelyn married to Wever.


Betico Croes is the father of Rudy Croes, Glambert Croes,

Betico Croes is the one that give Aruba his Status aparte and The Croes's are proud of it. 

Now Hendrick Croes and Betico Croes are Brothers

I will check the whole famaly tree to be exact.

If uncle Hendrick need to protect the Lineage of the The Croes... Imaging a Croes killer or a Croes Economy Destroyer or a Croes Beast. This can not happend.

So Unlce Hendrick Croes need to protect this Kid and so the plan was put in motion.

If it was not related to them, they would be already sitting in prison for 2.5 year allready serving a 20 year sentance.

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2008, 02:08:28 PM »

OK...after reading Caps last post, I was thinking of Geraldo's reporting from Aruba about tape (s) as rumored on the street (or to his brother..don't remember exactly), but I believe at that time it was presumed that the Dutch guy was Joran & early in the case.  I just tried to find a transcript, but was not able to find it.  Later, the Freddy arrest came up.....

Was just wondering if the tape story also took on a new life via the rumor mill...new playahs, so to speak....but all involved by association.

Yes, I know I may be off the beaten path, unpaved and without gold bricks. 


Hi 2NJSons...Geraldo first mentioned the 'movies' on 6/14 and dropped it like a hot potato, and it didn't surface again until the August arrest of the Kalpoes and Freddy.

I read about the 6/14 one from posts, but I think it was Harry Tho who did a piece saying he never thought he would give credance to Geraldo, that was when the August arrests happened. Couldn't believe that Geraldo was right in what he reported on June 14th.

Not sure that there will be anything out there from June, posters were commenting on what happened to what was reported the previous night, and no follow up!

Well, I actually saw the report on TV, but did not record or save anything (my family chuckled at me flipping from one news report to the other)....I read here from the beginning ...also Riehl's (sp)....it just struck me that it was a big scoop then, and yes, it dropped like a hot potato....but made me go 'mmmm' this morning.   It's all nothing really new, but alternate players are now in discussion. 
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2008, 02:22:41 PM »

Caps...Who are Evelyn's sons? She is Croes-Wever and listed at thar same law firm.

Is Rudy sometimes called Edward/ Eduardo?

And who is Mito Croes? Is he related to Rudy, Hendrick and Evelyn?...TIA



Hendrick Croes is married to Mitch Garido

From this marrage came: Edwardo - Evelyn - and another son

My 70 year old friend is telling me that Mitch Garido had another son before. he could not remember this son name.

Now Evelyn married to Wever.


Betico Croes is the father of Rudy Croes, Glambert Croes,

Betico Croes is the one that give Aruba his Status aparte and The Croes's are proud of it. 

Now Hendrick Croes and Betico Croes are Brothers

I will check the whole famaly tree to be exact.

If uncle Hendrick need to protect the Lineage of the The Croes... Imaging a Croes killer or a Croes Economy Destroyer or a Croes Beast. This can not happend.

So Unlce Hendrick Croes need to protect this Kid and so the plan was put in motion.

If it was not related to them, they would be already sitting in prison for 2.5 year allready serving a 20 year sentance.

CAPS


Caps... I have been round and round and up the path many times on this. I believe SS confirmed what I thought I finally had straight!

Betico, Hendrick and Rudy all brothers! I thought I rechecked after the discussions a few weeks back as I kept seeing posts that said Rudy was the nephew and others that he was the brother. I believe I even checked the birth years and was sure that Rudy and Hendrick were brothers!

This needs to be documented to avoid any more confusion! Can't keep going around in circles...LOL
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2008, 02:23:56 PM »

I know I am a bit OT (as usual  ) but it is this site/link on which the pics of Amy Bradley were found. I know in the past I have been able to find information through this link to Adult Only Vacations located at the Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba. That would be a convenient and scary venue for such things.

http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/index.htm
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 02:27:26 PM »

OK...after reading Caps last post, I was thinking of Geraldo's reporting from Aruba about tape (s) as rumored on the street (or to his brother..don't remember exactly), but I believe at that time it was presumed that the Dutch guy was Joran & early in the case.  I just tried to find a transcript, but was not able to find it.  Later, the Freddy arrest came up.....

Was just wondering if the tape story also took on a new life via the rumor mill...new playahs, so to speak....but all involved by association.

Yes, I know I may be off the beaten path, unpaved and without gold bricks. 


Hi 2NJSons...Geraldo first mentioned the 'movies' on 6/14 and dropped it like a hot potato, and it didn't surface again until the August arrest of the Kalpoes and Freddy.

I read about the 6/14 one from posts, but I think it was Harry Tho who did a piece saying he never thought he would give credance to Geraldo, that was when the August arrests happened. Couldn't believe that Geraldo was right in what he reported on June 14th.

Not sure that there will be anything out there from June, posters were commenting on what happened to what was reported the previous night, and no follow up!

Well, I actually saw the report on TV, but did not record or save anything (my family chuckled at me flipping from one news report to the other)....I read here from the beginning ...also Riehl's (sp)....it just struck me that it was a big scoop then, and yes, it dropped like a hot potato....but made me go 'mmmm' this morning.   It's all nothing really new, but alternate players are now in discussion. 

In 2002-2004 there was a big fenomena about filming Drunken teens and having sex. It was a big trend in europe (Budapest, Bukarest, Pragg, Germany. mostly eastern europe and it funnel via the internet as a wave into holland. Now the XTC pill manufacture in europe was the blame for this fenomena.

In the states at that time was Girls gone Wild. Teens gone Wild etc.

My research show that this methos of filming teens was a big money busness in europe. the underwold will pay top dollar for these movies especialy in eastern europe.

Now we have a group of drunken teens for 2 weeks in aruba, some of these Dutch traveled that read the news and are in the youth stream must have seen this oportunity to make some movie.

Now just think how much money this movie will fetch on the collectionist/underground market.

Back to looking for this place.. will call the Escorts and ask for direction and where they will bring me.

it is the only way ....
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2008, 02:28:52 PM »

Caps...Who are Evelyn's sons? She is Croes-Wever and listed at thar same law firm.

Is Rudy sometimes called Edward/ Eduardo?

And who is Mito Croes? Is he related to Rudy, Hendrick and Evelyn?...TIA

Evelyn Wever-Croes
http://www.wesharefoundation.org/ez.lt.2003.02.1a.htm
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2008, 02:31:57 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!
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