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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2008, 02:32:19 PM »

OK...after reading Caps last post, I was thinking of Geraldo's reporting from Aruba about tape (s) as rumored on the street (or to his brother..don't remember exactly), but I believe at that time it was presumed that the Dutch guy was Joran & early in the case.  I just tried to find a transcript, but was not able to find it.  Later, the Freddy arrest came up.....

Was just wondering if the tape story also took on a new life via the rumor mill...new playahs, so to speak....but all involved by association.

Yes, I know I may be off the beaten path, unpaved and without gold bricks. 


Hi 2NJSons...Geraldo first mentioned the 'movies' on 6/14 and dropped it like a hot potato, and it didn't surface again until the August arrest of the Kalpoes and Freddy.

I read about the 6/14 one from posts, but I think it was Harry Tho who did a piece saying he never thought he would give credance to Geraldo, that was when the August arrests happened. Couldn't believe that Geraldo was right in what he reported on June 14th.

Not sure that there will be anything out there from June, posters were commenting on what happened to what was reported the previous night, and no follow up!

Well, I actually saw the report on TV, but did not record or save anything (my family chuckled at me flipping from one news report to the other)....I read here from the beginning ...also Riehl's (sp)....it just struck me that it was a big scoop then, and yes, it dropped like a hot potato....but made me go 'mmmm' this morning.   It's all nothing really new, but alternate players are now in discussion. 


LOL..this will not surprise you, but I am wondering why all Freddy's statements are there except for the August arrest dates!

I am now sure that there is a Freddy Zedan, just a little curious about the August arrest and why he was released quietly out a back door!
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2008, 02:41:09 PM »

From Arubagirl...though this not where I checked from before...I really searched then! I am led to belive she knows her stuff!


http://arubagirl.typepad.com/lost_in_smallness/2005/10/index.html


There was an election. Mep won the absolute majority (11 seats in parliament).

So, forming a cabinet would be a piece of cake, right?

Wrong.

More than a month has passed and we still haven't gotten any firm decision on who is getting what ministry. I suppose that splitting the loot is a complicated process.

First of all, the big problem is Rudy Croes, since apparently the Netherlands has been making noises that they do not approve of him as Minister of Justice. Big drama among Rudy's supporters, with the words "meddling in autonomous affairs" being heard the most often. See, the problem with that sentiment is that the Netherlands does still give us money. So they do appropriate a right to have some say in who is going to actually spend the money. Unless we manage to be completely on our own (yeah, right), we're just going to have to grin down and bear it.

Rudy, magnanimous guy that he is, has let it be known that he is willing to settle for the Ministry of Tourism, on the condition that his brother, Hendrik Croes, becomes Minister of Justice.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2008, 02:51:50 PM »

on he they in question, Rudy Croes was on Aruba. this is confirmd. Ella Yarzagarai was in Holland.

Rudy even went to visit the so call site where nataly was droped. It is documented and he was even on TV.

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2008, 03:04:25 PM »

I know I am a bit OT (as usual  ) but it is this site/link on which the pics of Amy Bradley were found. I know in the past I have been able to find information through this link to Adult Only Vacations located at the Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba. That would be a convenient and scary venue for such things.

http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/index.htm


BB..Will take your word on this...

vms...I can't open the link to Evelyn!  Goldcoastaruba seems to be a Croes family affair...there was a news piece at their site a while ago of I think 2 Croes at a table and they were Hendrik or Rudy's sons...the bank man is de Veer from Metacorp and the Renaissance. It was discussed on the NAH thread.

http://www.goldcoastaruba.com/CompanyProfile.aspx

Caps...go for it...LOL




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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2008, 03:09:50 PM »

on he they in question, Rudy Croes was on Aruba. this is confirmd. Ella Yarzagarai was in Holland.

Rudy even went to visit the so call site where nataly was droped. It is documented and he was even on TV.




Caps...this would have been after the 29/30th. of May.

If Evelyn is married to a Wever and she has a son...he would be a Croes and a Wever, correct?...Sorry still looking at "G"..
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2008, 03:20:25 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!


Sorry vms...I got busy....I think I searched Gold Coast Aruba + news more recently and found the pic of them at the table. Not sure whose sons they were, Rudy or Hendrick, it was from the first new house finished.
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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2008, 03:21:08 PM »

on he they in question, Rudy Croes was on Aruba. this is confirmd. Ella Yarzagarai was in Holland.

Rudy even went to visit the so call site where nataly was droped. It is documented and he was even on TV.




Caps...this would have been after the 29/30th. of May.

If Evelyn is married to a Wever and she has a son...he would be a Croes and a Wever, correct?...Sorry still looking at "G"..

Yes Correct he was here in Aruba, it is confirmed.

and yes croes wever.

Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord

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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2008, 03:23:28 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!




Sorry vms...I got busy....I think I searched Gold Coast Aruba + news more recently and found the pic of them at the table. Not sure whose sons they were, Rudy or Hendrick, it was from the first new house finished.

Like to see Picture
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2008, 03:25:51 PM »

I know I am a bit OT (as usual  ) but it is this site/link on which the pics of Amy Bradley were found. I know in the past I have been able to find information through this link to Adult Only Vacations located at the Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba. That would be a convenient and scary venue for such things.

http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/index.htm


BB..Will take your word on this...

vms...I can't open the link to Evelyn!  Goldcoastaruba seems to be a Croes family affair...there was a news piece at their site a while ago of I think 2 Croes at a table and they were Hendrik or Rudy's sons...the bank man is de Veer from Metacorp and the Renaissance. It was discussed on the NAH thread.

http://www.goldcoastaruba.com/CompanyProfile.aspx

Caps...go for it...LOL






Sorry about the link, Mum. I dunno why it won't open for you. It isn't a good pic and I don't really know if she is the same Evelyn...
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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2008, 03:28:19 PM »

Looking for an escort service that provide forbidden fruit pleasure.

from the seven, the one that is linked to the Diceman (Guido Wever)
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2008, 03:35:02 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!


Sorry vms...I got busy....I think I searched Gold Coast Aruba + news more recently and found the pic of them at the table. Not sure whose sons they were, Rudy or Hendrick, it was from the first new house finished.

Thanks, Mum. I saw that pic. I guess I missed how they were connected to the government Croes - Rudy and Hendrik...
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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2008, 03:36:54 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!




Sorry vms...I got busy....I think I searched Gold Coast Aruba + news more recently and found the pic of them at the table. Not sure whose sons they were, Rudy or Hendrick, it was from the first new house finished.

Like to see Picture


Caps...I will look again and see if I can find it...and will post the link if I do. I recall that at first it was thought it was Rudy's company, not sure why now! Maybe one of them was called Rudy, I'm sorry I really don't remember anymore....except that it was a pretty big development. Was that the one with the turtles, or was that the Terra del Soleil one? Could even be confusing the two, the way my brain is right now!...Will see what I can find later as I have some things to do...Don't multitask very well...LOL

Caps...Did you check on Rudy and Hendrick?
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« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2008, 03:40:45 PM »

Mum,

How are the Croes of Gold Coast Villas related to Rudy, Hendrik, etc.?


Caps,

Be careful!


Sorry vms...I got busy....I think I searched Gold Coast Aruba + news more recently and found the pic of them at the table. Not sure whose sons they were, Rudy or Hendrick, it was from the first new house finished.

Thanks, Mum. I saw that pic. I guess I missed how they were connected to the government Croes - Rudy and Hendrik...


Thanks...I was beginning to think I had lost my mind...DH and DD have me down for 5 years or less, after I forgot my PIN the other night...LOL
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« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2008, 03:42:30 PM »

C-Jam Hair Studio Productions is associated with C-Jam Hair Studio, X-otic Massage and Escort Service, SUV Limo Service Aruba and Last Man Standing (martial arts competitions.)


http://www.c-jamproductions.com/index.html


C. JAM HAIR STUDIO & PRODUCTION 
 
Business address JUCURI 66, SANTA CRUZ 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  C. JAM HAIR STUDIO & PRODUCTION 
Date of commencement  31 JANUARY 1996 
     
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
MARDENBOROUGH, CLARENS EMANUEL;  
Residing in  JUCURI 66, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 20 OCTOBER 1970 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  18 DECEMBER 1995 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
1. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN KAP-, MASSAGE- EN SCHOONHEIDSSALON, TEVENS HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN KAPPERSBEDRIJF MET DE WAGEN.

2. HET VERKOPEN VAN STERK-, ZWAK- EN NIET-ALCOHOLISCHE DRANKEN EN HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN INTERNET-CAFE TEVENS DE KLEINHANDEL IN SNACKS, SANDWICHES, ANDERE EETGERECHTEN EN MAALTIJDEN.

3. HET ORGANISEREN, VERZORGEN EN BEGELEIDEN VAN FEESTEN, VOORSTELLINGEN, MUZIKALE PRODUKTIES EN VERMAAK EVENEMENTEN;

4. HET ORGANISEREN, BEGELEIDEN, PROMOTEN, GEVEN EN DOEN GEVEN VAN VOORSTELLINGEN, ZOALS MUZIKALE OPTREDENS EN SPORTEVENEMENTEN (DE ZOGENAAMDE "MIX MARTIAL ARTS COMPETITIONS"). 
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« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2008, 03:56:42 PM »



Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord



Lekker Bar and Restaurant is located at 39 Noord according to the Aruba phone book.   So we are looking for an apartment/escort close to this address.
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« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2008, 04:03:09 PM »

A few more from phone listings:

A & E Exclusive Exciting Massage & Escort Service   
Tanki Leendert 145 I
 
All For You    
Pampoenastraat 13 E

Gingerelas Relax
Wayaca 28 A
     
Pure & Sensual Escort Service   
 
WHITE DIAMONDS ESCORT & MASSAGE   
 Seroe Pita 23 A Paradera
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« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2008, 04:16:05 PM »



Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord



Lekker Bar and Restaurant is located at 39 Noord according to the Aruba phone book.   So we are looking for an apartment/escort close to this address.

Are any of these apartments located near 39 Noord?

Aruba Blue Village 
Cunucu Abao 37, Noord

Perle D'Or
Noord 108-R, Noord

Boardwalk Vacation Retreat
Bakval 20, Noord

Aruba Sunflower
Salinja Cerca 25E, Noord
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« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2008, 04:20:35 PM »



Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord



Lekker Bar and Restaurant is located at 39 Noord according to the Aruba phone book.   So we are looking for an apartment/escort close to this address.

Most escort service do not have an office and is on cash bases only. No credit card.

They operate form their cell phone.

The owners of Brickel, White house, Near Lekker (will find the name) are letting these business escort to use their apartment for pleasure.

The Whitehouse is a pleasure complex.
the Brickel is a hotel.
This House of rave to gice it a name is also an Apartment complex.

I will tried to get some picture of the place. Lekker we have already
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2008, 04:26:47 PM »

on he they in question, Rudy Croes was on Aruba. this is confirmd. Ella Yarzagarai was in Holland.

Rudy even went to visit the so call site where nataly was droped. It is documented and he was even on TV.




Dropped?  As in taken to this apartment complex?  Or dropped as in a body drop? Was Rudy on TV concerning this place?  Was this a local station in your area?  Can you provide the name of the TV station? That would help us o prove this is true.


BTW, let me get this straight...you are saying the reference to "elder" in the Shango riddle is referring to a Croes and not Paulus?  The protecting by the elder is a Croes protecting his son?  Please correct this if I am wrong.  TIA
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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 04:28:17 PM »



Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord



Lekker Bar and Restaurant is located at 39 Noord according to the Aruba phone book.   So we are looking for an apartment/escort close to this address.

Most escort service do not have an office and is on cash bases only. No credit card.

They operate form their cell phone.

The owners of Brickel, White house, Near Lekker (will find the name) are letting these business escort to use their apartment for pleasure.

The Whitehouse is a pleasure complex.
the Brickel is a hotel.
This House of rave to gice it a name is also an Apartment complex.

I will tried to get some picture of the place. Lekker we have already

IIRC, there have been pictures of the White House and Brickel posted.  We just need one of the House of Rave apartment complex!
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