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« Reply #660 on: April 23, 2008, 12:52:49 AM »

One thing for sure when SGC was arrested they said he was the son of a prominent Aruban businessman..Where they talking about LVR or him? I am still confused if his father was a musician or if that was all false?

I was reading back in the archives a few days ago and it was stated that Steve was the "adopted son" of Rufo, and lived with Rufo's son next door to Rufo.  Both parents were said to live in Curacao.  That was different than most of the recent discussions concerning him, so I found that interesting.

I read everything I could on the events of the 16th-18th and I believe the prominent business man is Paul Van Rijn and they were confusing his info with LVR. I believe Steve's Family lives in Curacao and is in the bottle water business like he personally told a friend of mine.

I am not sure what to make of the rumors of his father being in a band and being involved in Amy Bradleys dissapearance as that one PI stated. I haven't seen anything to back that up nor has that PI said anything since.
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« Reply #661 on: April 23, 2008, 01:09:12 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.


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« Reply #662 on: April 23, 2008, 01:11:35 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.



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« Reply #663 on: April 23, 2008, 01:23:00 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.



From the Aruba White pages:

Solognier Filomena Maria     
Macuarima 90 A

Solognier Servando     
Macuarima 38 F-Trai



 
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« Reply #664 on: April 23, 2008, 01:30:31 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.



From the Aruba White pages:

Solognier Filomena Maria     
Macuarima 90 A

Solognier Servando     
Macuarima 38 F-Trai



 


The address of Solognier Servado is wrong. the the of filomena is rght but that is not the wife of Rufo according to the Obit.

Garcia   Hugo M                           10/12/1980   Gorinchem   Macuarina 38F
Garcia, geb. Maduro   Maria L   1/9/1944                     Aruba   Macuarina 38F


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« Reply #665 on: April 23, 2008, 01:37:34 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.



From the Aruba White pages:

Solognier Filomena Maria     
Macuarima 90 A

Solognier Servando     
Macuarima 38 F-Trai



 


The address of Solognier Servado is wrong. the the of filomena is rght but that is not the wife of Rufo according to the Obit.

Garcia   Hugo M                           10/12/1980   Gorinchem   Macuarina 38F
Garcia, geb. Maduro   Maria L   1/9/1944                     Aruba   Macuarina 38F



Could Filomena be the daughter in law of Rufo?  I'm not sure these addresses would even be considered next door, big difference in numbers.  Caps, Do you have any idea how far apart 165 would be from 90 or 38F?
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #666 on: April 23, 2008, 01:44:27 AM »

Berndina

Posted by MF on FOB and almost instantly removed:


Posted: Wed Mar 8th, 2006 12:53 am

Bernadina, someone is leaking.

Net na e persona robez, esun cu ta kere cu e ta Dios.


"Just as this person stole, he believed that God was with him."  (translation by whytgirl)

Soko Soko, what are your kids doing?


I have no idea the Soko, Soko part....Caps??

The Translation above is wrong the correct translation is below

Bernadina, someone is leaking

Just to the wrong person, The one that think that he is God.
Stupid Stupid, What are you kids doing?

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« Reply #667 on: April 23, 2008, 02:00:08 AM »

Guess what Monkey

Solognier   Rachelle JM               4/26/1982   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rafael R                              7/8/1943   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Rodney R                            4/18/1970   Curacao   Macuarina 165
Solognier   Ruzette JM                1/23/1978   Aruba   Macuarina 165
Solognier, geb. Croes   Rose M   3/27/1945   Aruba   Macuarina 165

These are the the people that live at the adresss above.

Well from the Obit, Rufo is married to Rose Mary which is Solognier Rafael R. they have been born in the same year.

the one from Curacao must be the the father if her mother is from Curacao. I can be wrong.



From the Aruba White pages:

Solognier Filomena Maria     
Macuarima 90 A

Solognier Servando     
Macuarima 38 F-Trai



 


The address of Solognier Servado is wrong. the the of filomena is rght but that is not the wife of Rufo according to the Obit.

Garcia   Hugo M                           10/12/1980   Gorinchem   Macuarina 38F
Garcia, geb. Maduro   Maria L   1/9/1944                     Aruba   Macuarina 38F



Could Filomena be the daughter in law of Rufo?  I'm not sure these addresses would even be considered next door, big difference in numbers.  Caps, Do you have any idea how far apart 165 would be from 90 or 38F?
Nevermind, previous information shows that Filomena was born in 1943, probably not daughter in law.
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« Reply #668 on: April 23, 2008, 02:17:47 AM »


Gives me the impression that he thinks the arrest is funny or that he knows he will not be charged and prosecuted.  Like he is untouchable.  jackb

My impression was he thought of himself like a hero..


Thanks for the Picture. Like I said before, The Law says clearly that any perp that commits a crime or is a suspect of a crime, the HAND are in the back and with HANDCUFFS. Not in the Front. that is a No NO in Dutch Law.

Now if you look to Joran and Steve and Kalpoes, there are in handcusff but for show... they know that they are going home abd are innocent. those that bound them walking with them also knows.

Now look to all aruba real perps issues, are all hand in the back and in handcuffs

it is so funny to see al those violation of the law in these pictures.

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« Reply #669 on: April 23, 2008, 02:23:20 AM »

One thing for sure when SGC was arrested they said he was the son of a prominent Aruban businessman..Where they talking about LVR or him? I am still confused if his father was a musician or if that was all false?

From what I understand his father and Palus are both musicians.  They have played together in some home grown band.  This has been out for well over two years.  Jackb


Anyone has the real Initials that Merian the spoke person for the OM when she said that SCGJ was arrested. I tought I saw a "J" in the name.


Caps,
I have seen an article where he was listed only with the initials S. C. G. J.
I can't find it now!  I've tried!  I think it may have been a local paper if I remember correctly.  I had not seen it listed that way until recently when I came across that article.  I'll find it when I'm looking for something else.
 
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« Reply #670 on: April 23, 2008, 02:24:42 AM »

Correction, that should have been S. G. C. J.; that's how I believe it was.
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« Reply #671 on: April 23, 2008, 02:34:48 AM »

I am so impressed with the progress.   
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« Reply #672 on: April 23, 2008, 02:40:08 AM »

Correction, that should have been S. G. C. J.; that's how I believe it was.

There is a Solognier with those initials
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« Reply #673 on: April 23, 2008, 02:42:57 AM »

Correction, that should have been S. G. C. J.; that's how I believe it was.

There is a Solognier with those initials

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I think it may have been in Amigoe, but I'm not having any luck searching.  Maybe you can try.  I'm sure what I read was a translated version if that's the paper it was in.  But it was something online.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #674 on: April 23, 2008, 03:29:58 AM »

I KNOW that I've read those initials in reference to Steve in a news report also, can't find that but I did find this:

 

Rough translation

PROCES - VERBAAL


We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively agent first class and sergeant at the Korps police force Aruba and at the section district II, explains the following:

On 18 June 2005, the S.G.C.J Croes faced suspect around 17:35, a closed meeting with the suspect Joran was faced.

The suspected S.G.C.J Croes explained:

-   That he does not know the suspected J.A.P.van der Sloot

-   That he had never seen the suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot ever before in his life.

The suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot explained

-   That he did not know S.G.C.J. Croes

-   That suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot had never seen the suspect S.G.C.J. Croes ever before in his life.
Of what our, ERASMUS and KELLY on oath of office made up warrant, and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 18, 2005 and has been closed.

Signed,


J.M. ERASMUS       
 
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« Reply #675 on: April 23, 2008, 03:36:35 AM »

Correction, that should have been S. G. C. J.; that's how I believe it was.

There is a Solognier with those initials





Solognier, Glenda M. - Madon 23A
Solognier, Gregory P. - Cura Cabai 61A
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« Reply #676 on: April 23, 2008, 04:16:05 AM »

I'm starting to get confused with our list of people involved.  Who were the actual party-goers that we have identified as being at the Matty Apartments?
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« Reply #677 on: April 23, 2008, 04:34:53 AM »

I'm starting to get confused with our list of people involved.  Who were the actual party-goers that we have identified as being at the Matty Apartments?

Good Morning SS...You are not the only one who is confused - I think I have googled half the population of aruba?
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« Reply #678 on: April 23, 2008, 04:44:26 AM »

We had a bunch of people who were supposed to be at the Brickell Bay and then the location changed to the Matty Apartments and now I have no idea who was there that night.  Could we have a new head count?    CAPS, please help us out with this.
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« Reply #679 on: April 23, 2008, 05:08:10 AM »

We had a bunch of people who were supposed to be at the Brickell Bay and then the location changed to the Matty Apartments and now I have no idea who was there that night.  Could we have a new head count?    CAPS, please help us out with this.

Julia was one...not sure, but Paulus may have been there?
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