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Topic: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3 (Read 799754 times)
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vms
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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April 23, 2008, 02:30:26 PM »
Quote from: Rob on April 23, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
vms your above post really seems to seal it. Armin does appear to be Simian and Merian. and WOW, looks like you blew the doors off the master - Grande.
The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt.
vms - right
Grande - wrong - there is a first time for everything.
good work vms, you really did do a good job connecting the dots.
TYVM, Rob.
I loved working with Grande!
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Quote from: vms on April 23, 2008, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 23, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
Vms...Do you recall offhand the last date you saw any activity on his sites, myspace etc. TIA...Just wondering as that last one you posted said last active Oct. 2007!
Myspace:
Last Login: 4/8/2008
YouTube:
Added: 2 weeks ago
Thank You...So he is still around....
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Awesome work being done around here! I think all of you have been instrumental in uncovering the identiy of Simian/Merian. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: vms on April 23, 2008, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: Rob on April 23, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
vms your above post really seems to seal it. Armin does appear to be Simian and Merian. and WOW, looks like you blew the doors off the master - Grande.
The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt.
vms - right
Grande - wrong - there is a first time for everything.
good work vms, you really did do a good job connecting the dots.
TYVM, Rob.
I loved working with Grande!
Reading Merian Post, It seem more like a Political Agenda. Mito Croes Solution was to give the MEP party this pill and knowingly that an election will be in 4 years, then they will play the Hidden card to destroy MEP and Rudy Croes.
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I think he played both sides, But the primate is not him. The killer is one in the the telephone List.
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 04:29:20 PM
I think he played both sides, But the primate is not him. The killer is one in the the telephone List.
I do not understand what you are saying, Caps.
The primate is not who?
What phone list?
TIA
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Quote from: vms on April 23, 2008, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 04:29:20 PM
I think he played both sides, But the primate is not him. The killer is one in the the telephone List.
I do not understand what you are saying, Caps.
The primate is not who?
What phone list?
TIA
I can say this, or maybe I am Wrong but IP Spoofing is easy in Aruba,
Now for this in Aruba we do not have dedicated IP's like the in the States.
All the ADLS boxes in Aruba defualt gate way is 192.168.1.1 and connect to a server for authentication.
at that point the IP is SET and when exit or turnoff, the IP is recyccled again.
Some time you will get a 209.xx.xx.xx IP or a 199.xx.xx.xx
but the Ip that I have yesterday is not the same IP but the luky is that most of the time you will get this group IP
that are there when the system is almost full in use.
The only way he will get the same IP if he is using a Static lease line from setar
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vms
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April 23, 2008, 05:16:22 PM »
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: vms on April 23, 2008, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 04:29:20 PM
I think he played both sides, But the primate is not him. The killer is one in the the telephone List.
I do not understand what you are saying, Caps.
The primate is not who?
What phone list?
TIA
I can say this, or maybe I am Wrong but IP Spoofing is easy in Aruba,
Now for this in Aruba we do not have dedicated IP's like the in the States.
All the ADLS boxes in Aruba defualt gate way is 192.168.1.1 and connect to a server for authentication.
at that point the IP is SET and when exit or turnoff, the IP is recyccled again.
Some time you will get a 209.xx.xx.xx IP or a 199.xx.xx.xx
but the Ip that I have yesterday is not the same IP but the luky is that most of the time you will get this group IP
that are there when the system is almost full in use.
The only way he will get the same IP if he is using a Static lease line from setar
Ok, I understand what you are saying about static versus dynamic IP but who are we tracing by IP?
Merian's IP is not available so it cannot be matched to Simian's.
Per Klaas, Simian and Merian used the same email address to post so that's all we have to go on...
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April 23, 2008, 05:30:01 PM »
One thing that come out of the Merian post is the he talks about the Simian like he is an evil thing and why would he talk about himself.
do not make sense.
Merian post is political pill that help save the MEP. but I wonder why they did it. unless there is another agenda at steak here.
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April 23, 2008, 05:47:59 PM »
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
One thing that come out of the Merian post is the he talks about the Simian like he is an evil thing and why would he talk about himself.
do not make sense.
Merian post is political pill that help save the MEP. but I wonder why they did it. unless there is another agenda at steak here.
yesterday I asked you if you know of a man named Luis that works in Aruba's financial area and in the government, possible as the treasurer or in the treasurer dept. When we know his last name we will then know a possible motive for Merian. Luis and Armin are best friends.
Is there a Luis Oduber working there?
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VMS and Rob -
Great work!!!
I am really impressed with what you have uncovered.
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I think we need to establish which political party the Sloots belong to. I would imagine it is the MEP and after everything they did for them it looks pretty apparent, but I don't want to assume. I want to know the facts. When the Security Guards were being framed, it was murder, when it's the Sloots Natalee becomes a missing person again. That could only have happened when Nel Oduber returned from Florida.
I think we need to know the political affiliation and we will have a key to why the players / poster did what they did.
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Quote from: SS on April 23, 2008, 06:01:45 PM
VMS and Rob -
Great work!!!
I am really impressed with what you have uncovered.
vms did it all... He was right under my nose for three years and I didn't get it...
Good to see you SS
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I don't want to spoil the celebration, but... if Giovanni C J Solognier is the killer then he must also be the 5th. Where does Steve Croes fit into all of this? Was he just arrested for giving the false alibi, or were there two people at the party with initials SGCJ? I'm a little confused with this point. Talk to me like a three year old - I've had a long day!!!
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"The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt."
Rob the fact that they used the same email address just means that they know each other.
If it was the same IP then that would just mean they live in the same house.
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Quote from: Rob on April 23, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 23, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
One thing that come out of the Merian post is the he talks about the Simian like he is an evil thing and why would he talk about himself.
do not make sense.
Merian post is political pill that help save the MEP. but I wonder why they did it. unless there is another agenda at steak here.
yesterday I asked you if you know of a man named Luis that works in Aruba's financial area and in the government, possible as the treasurer or in the treasurer dept. When we know his last name we will then know a possible motive for Merian. Luis and Armin are best friends.
Is there a Luis Oduber working there?
I skipped me to check that
I will check right now and see the Directie Finance
I know a Luis Odeuber that used to own a Criyoy Restaurant in Aruba.
Now I will check with source on Directie Finance employee List.
lets make sure.
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Quote from: Blonde on April 23, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
"The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt."
Rob the fact that they used the same email address just means that they know each other.
If it was the same IP then that would just mean they live in the same house.
Edit to add exept Aruba hey have many IP's this is just one poster from Aruba look at all the IP's
201.xxx.28.# (Setarnet)
66.xxx.203.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA
199.x.84.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
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April 23, 2008, 06:42:53 PM »
Quote from: Blonde on April 23, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
"The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt."
Rob the fact that they used the same email address just means that they know each other.
If it was the same IP then that would just mean they live in the same house.
Hi Blonde, I didn't say
no doubt
, just very little.
I doubt that they were IP spoofing. But who knows.
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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April 23, 2008, 06:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Blonde on April 23, 2008, 06:28:08 PM
Quote from: Blonde on April 23, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
"The fact that both used the same email address leaves very little doubt."
Rob the fact that they used the same email address just means that they know each other.
If it was the same IP then that would just mean they live in the same house.
Edit to add exept Aruba hey have many IP's this is just one poster from Aruba look at all the IP's
201.xxx.28.# (Setarnet)
66.xxx.203.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA
199.x.84.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
an IP is like your personal phone number, and imagine if your phone number changed everyday. That would be terrible. But with an IP you do not need to have the number known as the central office does all the switching. So, it's like a phone number that you do not need to know the number to reach you - it happens automatically... (short version.)
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Quote from: SS on April 23, 2008, 06:16:13 PM
I don't want to spoil the celebration, but... if Giovanni C J Solognier is the killer then he must also be the 5th. Where does Steve Croes fit into all of this? Was he just arrested for giving the false alibi, or were there two people at the party with initials SGCJ? I'm a little confused with this point. Talk to me like a three year old - I've had a long day!!!
Hi SS..
left you a post in NAH…long, hard day here too…
My money is still on Freddy…with a window open on Lorenzo.
Armin’s parties at ‘a’ Lorenzo’s has me thinking!
Not sure how Caps came up with Giovanni…
Or how he is convinced Armin’s dad died in Columbia, need an obit!
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