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« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2008, 05:29:26 PM »

in my opinion, you need to find a male escort service and locale. That will connect to the young pimps and the newspaper.

That takes me back to Ronchi again.

someone associated with the Chemalys is also associated with pimping young boys.

Who?
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« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2008, 05:31:53 PM »

Lalas are you here? Can you tell me shangos verse about the "star"? or wi8th the word star in it? I am not able to access my shango stuff at this time.

Considering it was Merian, I think it was the line from The Misfits...

LOL!!   Simian=Merian=Simian.

Thanks for the light bulb moment.  Rolling Eyes

Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse.  Simian and Merian have long been considered to be one and the same as I understand it.
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« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2008, 05:34:56 PM »

in my opinion, you need to find a male escort service and locale. That will connect to the young pimps and the newspaper.

That takes me back to Ronchi again.

someone associated with the Chemalys is also associated with pimping young boys.

Who?

I'm probably wrong but the first name that came to mind was Renfro.
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« Reply #83 on: April 15, 2008, 05:36:38 PM »

in my opinion, you need to find a male escort service and locale. That will connect to the young pimps and the newspaper.

That takes me back to Ronchi again.

someone associated with the Chemalys is also associated with pimping young boys.

Who?

I'm probably wrong but the first name that came to mind was Renfro.


LOL!!  I was thinking "fluffah".
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« Reply #84 on: April 15, 2008, 06:05:24 PM »

C-Jam Hair Studio
Jucuri # 66, Santa Cruz

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My first thought on this was Joran asking Satish to remember to come over to cut his hair.  Maybe Satish worked part time for this Hair place.


Isn't Eduardo Croes the Top95 guy that Gielen had on the video saying something about he was crying...etc....He was one of her staunch supporters. IIRC
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« Reply #85 on: April 15, 2008, 06:07:08 PM »

One more thing.  I believe Granny Toad has a background in Anthropology.  She looked at the Venez. bone and felt it was from that monkey/primate that begins with an M... I trust GrannyToad.
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« Reply #86 on: April 15, 2008, 06:11:22 PM »

Lalas are you here? Can you tell me shangos verse about the "star"? or wi8th the word star in it? I am not able to access my shango stuff at this time.


Not Shango...Merian Ernest:

Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: Just head for that big star
straight on.
See how the dead-ends meet? Like the Simian said. There is little to fear as the
Babylonians are swinging the scepter still.


White House Apartments with "star" on roof.




Looks kinda like gold bricks.......
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« Reply #87 on: April 15, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »

http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=mini&page=4

Dominico  Leest lives near Joran, I think
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« Reply #88 on: April 15, 2008, 07:23:55 PM »

OK are we saying Natalee was not taken to the Lion's Den at 15 Noord?
 
She may have been taken  to one of the other places listed?
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« Reply #89 on: April 15, 2008, 07:27:08 PM »

Lalas are you here? Can you tell me shangos verse about the "star"? or wi8th the word star in it? I am not able to access my shango stuff at this time.


Not Shango...Merian Ernest:

Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: Just head for that big star
straight on.
See how the dead-ends meet? Like the Simian said. There is little to fear as the
Babylonians are swinging the scepter still.


White House Apartments with "star" on roof.




Looks kinda like gold bricks.......

This is the Whitehouse Cocktail Lounge,

The Apartments are behind a a large yellow door where one enter with a the car inside the Apartment garage.

THe cocktalk is at the side of the Apartments.

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« Reply #90 on: April 15, 2008, 07:46:12 PM »

on he they in question, Rudy Croes was on Aruba. this is confirmd. Ella Yarzagarai was in Holland.

Rudy even went to visit the so call site where nataly was droped. It is documented and he was even on TV.




Caps...this would have been after the 29/30th. of May.

If Evelyn is married to a Wever and she has a son...he would be a Croes and a Wever, correct?...Sorry still looking at "G"..

Yes Correct he was here in Aruba, it is confirmed.

and yes croes wever.

Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord



Let me try this again...are you saying you know for certain that Natalee was killed in this place...the Lekker 3 apartment?  This girl that worked in this business told you where this place was or that she knew what happened there?  Please explain this to me. Thanks!
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« Reply #91 on: April 15, 2008, 08:05:34 PM »

Which place is the Lions Den?  The Whitehouse, Brickel, Lekker?  I am confused as heck right now.  Need to rest my brain.
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« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2008, 08:07:07 PM »

in my opinion, you need to find a male escort service and locale. That will connect to the young pimps and the newspaper.

That takes me back to Ronchi again.

someone associated with the Chemalys is also associated with pimping young boys.



Rob - On John Chemaly's MySpace he has about nine pages of friends.  Most of them are very suggestive that he is gay.  There are also a lot of photographs of him with a boy who looks much younger than himselves.  Maybe he is the one you are looking for.
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« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2008, 08:16:38 PM »

himself = himselves, sorry for the typo.

Back on the last Shango thread, I had posted some tidbits about Steve Croes.  One of the things that I found was an article saying that Eduardo (Edward) Croes, the main commentator on Top95, was an uncle of Steve Croes.  Caps, does that make him another brother of Hendrick and Rudy?  I think I also posted it around the time that the guy from Top95 burned his family.
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« Reply #94 on: April 15, 2008, 08:17:02 PM »



Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord

This sounds like it could be the place.....  Caps, what is the name of this motel?


Dave Holloway discussed a small type of motel near the VIP Club in his book.  Next door is the Indo Restaurant, located at 17 Noord.   

From Dave's book pgs. 52-53

snipped....

Then they drove me to see the motel next door to the VIP ClubI was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour.  I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.

The motel has a small home like structure at the front.  Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway.  There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day.  We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with sophisticated camera equipment.   There is reason to believe that the Buddhist who met me and my sister next door at the VIP Club may have known the person or persons who were holding Natalee captive in the motel and was trying to make a deal to sell her back to me.   The authorities were supposedly investigating this.  As with most of the leads that we had turned over to police, nothing ever evolved from it.  We also heard that this might be the place where a friend of Joran's, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Abrambatzis, was alleged to have taken lewd pictures of a minor girl.  He has denied the charge, but his lawyer says he admits he was present when photos of the girl in "tempting poses" were taken.


The detectives knew the motel's owner
, so we drove by his home.  We were hoping he would be there so we could talk to him.  We were in an unmarked car with heavily tinted windows and a regular license plate that was rotated out frequently so as not to be recognizable.  He was not at home, but the detectives said they would keep a close watch on him......


I read back through some of the Shango posts I had saved and found an interpretation from September 2005, made by a poster named Spider.  He came up with some very interesting stuff and some of it kinda lines up with CAPS theory.   Anyway, I thought it might be worth a second look. And I do apologize for it being so long.

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SHANGO'S RIDDLE

First it’s important to know who’s who

Babylon=Dutch social structure Arawaks=native Arubans
Fallen Elder=PVDS
The gods=the authorities not on the islands, a combo of both A and B perhaps, think maybe hotel and casino owners, Prime Minister, people who could have a serious affect on all if they came in and had a fit
The dice throwers=The Casino Dealers
Babilonians=Dutch on Aruba
DirtyHand=Van Der Straaten

The fly=NH used later to mean needy girls, cool guys have many flies attracted to them
Shivas=brothers
The Elders=Dutch parents
The music=bad things and rumors of bad things that have occurred
The maze=house where Raves supposedly occur, the house of Rave
The lions=those in the higher clique, those at top of illegal activity, etc on the island, the untouchables
ThreadSurfers =bloggers

One straight path

to the house of Rave,
(the party house)

while of gold bricks

the road is not paved,
(does not appear as rich man’s house)

answers mysterious lie within
(contains the answers alluding everyone)

magical letters which spell sin

XTC DNA
(Here you will find XTC in the DNA)
(X-oTiC Massage and Escort???)

Babalu opened a window looking into babylon
(One of the Scared Monkeys solved a clue to look into Dutch social structure )

DirtyHand is alive
(Van Der Straaten is part of this)

Shango said the key to the Hague did not exist
(the solution to puzzle is not in evidence sent to Holland)

that door to eden remains closed
(the key to what you are looking for remains closed )

until the house with the path,

But not of gold is entered
(until you find and enter the house mentioned above)

DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder
(VDS is accepted in the circles of B and A and has a close relationship with PVDS)

The gods are talking

Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless
(People who have moved to island and identified and socialize with A can mingle with B but are not important enough for their names to be remembered)

DirtyHand can bring down all houses
(VDS is capable of destroying or tainting B’s and A’s as well)

DirtyHand is the key
(but just one of them, other is later)

His reach is long

He walks in all circles

consort to all, except for the gods
(Accepts support from all except the gods)

He knows the sacrifice is not responsible
(VDS knows Joran is not guilty)

Of whom is the young Babylonian afraid?
(Who is J afraid of? )

Why won’t he talk?
(Why is he keeping quiet when he knows what happened)

The dice throwers know
(They know why J won’t talk and why VDS won’t say J’s innocent. Dice throwers also know about … )

the maze of the rave

and the fly that entered the trap
(NH)

DirtyHand is the key
(Knows everything )

He walks in many circles

Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
(Did not play on the beach )

Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
(DID NOT PLAY ON THE BEACH!)

DRAX SCORES
(someone (a blogger?) figured out they weren’t on the beach)

DirtyHand knows this

Children of the Elders play in the maze,

but DirtyHand is afraid to rave

Babylonians and Shivas do not play with sandcastles
(STOP THINKING BEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Follow the music!
(Follow the rumors and the bad things you have heard)

Mary who was not a Virgin entered the maze to discover it’s secrets
(NH knew where she was going, she wanted what she thought was there)

The lamb is scared
(Joran (sacrificial lamb that is not guilty)

The fires are lit
(Action begins)

But now the lamb is a goat
(Now J is brunt of jokes, slurs )

Mary never heard the buoy toll
(NH didn’t notice the sinister change, a warning of bad to come)

ask the men who play dice and "roll"
(they know she was unaware of what was coming)

Follow the music

The DiceMen must be questioned.

They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
(They go to these “parties” )

Mary who was not a virgin entered

The DiceMen ROLLED
(rolled-got high on X)

Mary ROLLED

Mary ROLLED through the Maze
(Maze (capitalized now) becomes the sinister game )

There is more than one house of music
(more than one house where bad things happen. You have to find the correct house of music. Later clue will tell you the lion of that house stays home (maybe doesn’t work?)

the Lamb is a Scapegoat

The Lamb returned to the fold
(Went home )

Mary Rolled

And the lions played

Windows looking onto Babylon are being opened by the ThreadSurfers
(The internet bloggers communicating world wide )

The maze offers many hidden desires
(Small m maze=house )

deflowerings of forbidden fruits
(Girls not normally available to them )

DirtyHand knows.
(Knows all about this)

So does the elder.
(PVDS )

The lamb is a scapegoat.

DirtyHand has walked through the maze
(And next two sentences go together)

He knows of the forbidden fruit

and the gardeners
(metaphor for those who prepare and clean the area, obtain the flower, bring it to the maze )

Why do they leave the Maze open?
(why does this game continue when VDS knows about it? )

Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths.
(Why hasn’t an Aruban looked into what is happening? It’s not hidden and continues to operate.)

Tell the Cowboys!
(Arubans, tell the Americans, etc who have come to the rescue!)

The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.

All know of the music

beckoning lost souls

to enter the seven levels of inferno
(maze has seven levels, could be rooms (or 7 lions), like Dante’s Inferno, each room could be set up differently (S&M, etc), each consecutive a more depraved “desire” than the previous)

who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?
(Who was it that slipped something in her drink…could have been a lion at C&C, not J )

Enter the Maze.
(You are being asked to enter the activities, to picture it)

Babalu opened a window looking onto Babylon
(A threadsurfer )

DirtyHand does not play with the lions
(Next few sentences are the refrain)

but he has entered the maze

the lamb is a scapegoat

DirtyHand knows

So does the Elder

Follow the music

into the maze

the lions know they are being stalked
(stalked…by those with an interest in their activities)

the gamblers and other Rollers talk
(among themselves )

tell the cowboys!
(Small c ..tell the authorities. )

The Arawaks will not enter the maze unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe
(They are not going to tell the cowboys the real story of what happened unless they have to)

Follow the music,
but be careful because

the lions are not tame
(untouchable and not tamed, will turn on you )

DirtyHand knows,

so does the elder

Some windows overlooking Babylon have been opened

but they can’t hear the music.

The Arawaks know
(they do know about the music, the bad things )

(Tone changes starting here, Shango getting angry because he is not being heard )

Stupid Cowboys with Arawak Guides
(Word stupid is out of character with rest, is scathing and condescending as in “how stupid can you be to pick the bottom of supposed “structure” to lead you to its weaknesses” To the A’s, when Cowboys leave, maybe everything will be the same, so not going to stir up a hornets’ nest that might sting them )

Cowboys don’t read smoke signals,
(Veiled hints have been given to them, but they just don’t get it )

they must enter the maze!
(They must be led to and enter the maze, the correct house of course )

Shango needs to feed the messengers. The Gods are talking.

Mary rolled into the maze

to play with lions

but it was not a game

the lamb ran bleating

afraid to walk through the maze

why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions?

The cowboys don’t know.
(They are unaware. )

DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation
(If he chances telling, tourism dies, Arubans lose jobs and turn on him. Attitude is “we’re almost home with this one, the wool’s over their eyes, hang in there, they are trusting and believing every untrue thing we have been saying and with that provided theory, looking in all the wrong places. They will leave soon….there is no body where they can find it.(tells us later where the body is…or perhaps she is still alive there)

The gods are talking

The Simian was incorrect about the package from the Hague
(Perhaps the Simian is a blogger and Shango told him the evidence report from Holland would be negative)

I told the Simian, but the Simian would not listen
(He had no faith in my words, probably on trumped up path the Cowboys are taking. )

The simian is not a simian, but an austrolopithecus

Threadsurfers on other beaches are oblivious to the Maze and the lions
(There are Mazes on other islands, no one is aware)

without exposure, the arawaks will deceive the cowboys
(if someone doesn’t speak up with the truth, the present lie will prevail )

they will leave without loot
(they will go home without NH )

Shango is the god of justice
(Shango is the personification of who the writer feels should make sure justice prevails. At the moment, the writer is imbued with Shango. When all chance for justice is gone, someone else somewhere will become Shango. )

alive in many forms

he who speaks through Oxum through lightning

and himself through thunder

father of the violent dance

diviner of secrets of the seven levels of inferno
(It was Shango who discovered the truth in this case )

bound to truth even as it burns
(And is bound to reveal the truth even if it hurts him (now the writer) personally )

so that justice may be brought.

Only those who cRave music go into the Maze ...
(Double meaning crave=yearn, crave=do drugs and want or do bad things enter the game )

The gods of Babylon have orchested the refrain for the Arawak choir
(The Dutch have decided the story, and the Arubans will repeat it incessently )

the music which holds the answers lies within the maze
(The answers are in the house )

the cowboys will smile sweetly as the chorus sings
(Innocently, trustingly will believe what they hear because they think the Arubans believe this (because they keep repeating the same scenario )

backs turned to the maze
(The Arubans don’t acknowledge the house )

from the poison song
From the story they are repeating

(All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs )

How those innocent young flies enter the trap with honey laden notes
(How these needy girls enter a trap because of the sweet nothings whispered in their ears )

Shango must leave to feed the messengers

Shango the god is sad because he sees history repeating itself, a new set of lions is being created:

The gods are talking

Follow the notes

to the poison house
(Poison because of what it is allowing to be formed )

where the children of the babylonians and the arawak nation meet,
(the school )

under cover of delusion.
(Illusion of equality is given, parents of Aruban children believe it )

In the maze
(Now the school and/or playground )

the lions which play

shall be found.

The gamblers also took note.
(They are watching to see who will emerge as the favorites (lions, of course)

Tell the cowboys!
(Will someone recognize what’s happening and talk to whoever can prevent it!)

Now back to the present situation:

Not all lions leave their den
(Your clue to help you find the correct house. )

That which is hidden shan’t be found in the light
)NH will not be found in the light, you must look in the dark places of the house )


And now a prediction


Babylon is Falling

The Arawak teepees will be crushed

will they sacrifice the Lamb or the Lion

to make the cowboys smile
)Obviously the Arubans are not going to expose truth unless they have to, so will the lamb be accepted or will the Arubans have expose the lions? )

The arawaks must hunt the lions

in the place of darkness

house of secrets

The babylonian and the shivas did not build castles in the sand
(Joran and the Kalpoes did not go to the beach. Can I make this anymore clear? Think!!!)

They lost to the lions
(At the party, the lions took charge of NH, maybe told J to get lost )

dirty hand knows the elder knows and so do the arawaks

the cowboys are far from the house of babylon
(They will cluelessly search the whole island, but not search the corrupt )

the maze shall remain dark

to all but the arawak nation and the elders

The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys
(This is a different simian (Josse?) than the original, wants the situation exposed (in June) but this sentence is not true the end of July. What changed him mind?)

DirtyHand knows Simian knows

The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the Hague

Information the Simian left for 2 days was incorrect

His lordship brought nothing from the Hague the

Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
(Holding J in jail )

There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.

Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too
(But the jail keepers can’t let him confess . )

Many teepees fall. No Wampum.

Cowboys eat Sacrifice. Arawaks eat sacrifice.

Dirty hand stays hidden, but all are well-fed.
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« Reply #95 on: April 15, 2008, 08:30:44 PM »

A couple of things that stood out for me in Spider's post:

1. Not all lions leave their den
(Your clue to help you find the correct house. )

2.That which is hidden shan’t be found in the light
)NH will not be found in the light, you must look in the dark places of the house )

3.The children of the babylonians and the Arawak nation ... being related to school.  Remember the phone video of the rape at the school???

4. Spider's interpretation of the gardners.

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« Reply #96 on: April 15, 2008, 08:40:54 PM »

Here is more of the same conversation about those apartments:

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Caps:

VERENIGING VAN EIGENAREN MONTANA APPARTEMENTEN 
 
Business address MONTANJA 51, NOORD 
Legal form  ASSOCIATION 
Name of the VERENIGING VAN EIGENAREN MONTANA APPARTEMENTEN 
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of 21 JULY 1995 
incorporation/commencement:
     
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE 
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS 
 
VAN DIJK, JOHANNES; 
Residing in  NOORDERPLASSENWEG 38, 1316 US ALMERE, THE NETHERLANDS 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, HAARLEM on 12 JANUARY 1962 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position 
Effective  6 JUNE 2006 
Authority  RESTRICTED 
 
VAN DER LUYT, ALBERTUS; 
Residing in  CATHARINADAL 9, 5235 BJ DEN BOSCH, THE NETHERLANDS 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NOORDWIJK on 28 OCTOBER 1959 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  TREASURER 
Effective  1 NOVEMBER 2006 
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BARNAS, PETRONELLA GEERTRUIDA; 
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #1631 on: February 01, 2008, 10:26:49 PM »
   
Yes

lala

the one with the gold paint and the road is paved

The question is in which room?


In my report I choose the White one but my road is not paved

The Montana Park Apartment is where all started..The Sex etc....

so look for the owners

In their website there is a Holland phone: I wonder who will answer..

Pauls brother or Anitas Mother...

LOL




A while back CAPS had us looking for an apartment that someone involved in the case owned, but I thought it was near the Raquet Club.  Is this near the Raquet club?  If Anita's mother or Paul's brother answer the phone, then they must live here or own the place.  Wasn't Anita visiting her mother in Holland?  This place must be Paul's little nest where he parties and takes advantage of young girls.  If the diceman (Guido Wever) knows the place, as Shango says, then does Guido live here or have a connection, too?  Is Guido related to the Sloots through Paul's brother or one of Anita's siblings? If Steve Croes is the one who invites everyone to the parties, then he must somehow be attached to this place, also?  Oh CAPS, my head is spinning.  When we get to the end of the riddle you really must write it all down for us so that we can remember everything that we found.     I see some more genealogy coming.  A few days ago CAPS told us to find a Croes who isn't called Croes.  Rudy Croes is Godfather to the youngest Sloot so the families must be pretty close.
Am I rambling???
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« Reply #97 on: April 15, 2008, 09:38:00 PM »

I think Caps code key is slightly different from the accepted one so many of us have used in the past:

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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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Now Natalee was killed in the HOUSe of SEX NEAR the LEKKER RESTAURANT. Jus beside it is this place. I had to ask this girl that work in this bussiness.

There are 7 operatin escort in Aruba.
All are in The News in the evening section
if a tourist want they will stat in the hotel room

There are only 3 places used

The brickel is 1
The Whitehouse is 2
Apartment near LEkkER 3

most popular is no. 3

now I need to find the escord

This sounds like it could be the place.....  Caps, what is the name of this motel?


Dave Holloway discussed a small type of motel near the VIP Club in his book.  Next door is the Indo Restaurant, located at 17 Noord.   

From Dave's book pgs. 52-53

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Then they drove me to see the motel next door to the VIP Club.  I was told it was a whorehouse where you pay by the hour.  I did not know if that meant you bring your own girl or they furnish one.

The motel has a small home like structure at the front.  Then, there are six or seven rooms that stretch down the roadway.  There were no vehicles there during daylight, but we heard that some young girls were escorted in and out of the rooms that day.  We had also heard that someone had arrived that day with sophisticated camera equipment.   There is reason to believe that the Buddhist who met me and my sister next door at the VIP Club may have known the person or persons who were holding Natalee captive in the motel and was trying to make a deal to sell her back to me.   The authorities were supposedly investigating this.  As with most of the leads that we had turned over to police, nothing ever evolved from it.  We also heard that this might be the place where a friend of Joran's, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Abrambatzis, was alleged to have taken lewd pictures of a minor girl.  He has denied the charge, but his lawyer says he admits he was present when photos of the girl in "tempting poses" were taken.


The detectives knew the motel's owner, so we drove by his home.  We were hoping he would be there so we could talk to him.  We were in an unmarked car with heavily tinted windows and a regular license plate that was rotated out frequently so as not to be recognizable.  He was not at home, but the detectives said they would keep a close watch on him......


I read back through some of the Shango posts I had saved and found an interpretation from September 2005, made by a poster named Spider.  He came up with some very interesting stuff and some of it kinda lines up with CAPS theory.   Anyway, I thought it might be worth a second look. And I do apologize for it being so long.

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject:
 
SHANGO'S RIDDLE

First it’s important to know who’s who

Babylon=Dutch social structure Arawaks=native Arubans (Caps says that this is a myriad or different people...from reporters to LAW depending on what part of the story you are talking about)
Fallen Elder=PVDS
The gods=the authorities not on the islands, a combo of both A and B perhaps, think maybe hotel and casino owners, Prime Minister, people who could have a serious affect on all if they came in and had a fit
The dice throwers=The Casino Dealers
Babilonians=Dutch on Aruba(Again, a different person depending on the story)
DirtyHand=Van Der Straaten ( Caps says that Duetekom is DH as wells as Trudy Hassell)

The fly=NH used later to mean needy girls, cool guys have many flies attracted to them
Shivas=brothers (I am sure Caps told me that this would be the hired hitmen and not the Kalpoes, if that is what is meant by "brothers")
The Elders=Dutch parents
The music=bad things and rumors of bad things that have occurred
The maze=house where Raves supposedly occur, the house of Rave
The lions=those in the higher clique, those at top of illegal activity, etc on the island, the untouchables
ThreadSurfers =bloggers

Just a few things that are different...which leads to more varied interpretations of Shango...which to me is even more confusing...but I await the final draft of the truth here with bated breath.



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« Reply #98 on: April 15, 2008, 09:52:26 PM »

Betico, Hendrick and Rudy Croes…Brothers!!!!

Will not waste time looking anymore, as far as I am concerned the 3 are brothers! Took me forever last time to find a DOB for Rudy and not going there again…I am convinced!…LOL…also see SS’s posts and my earlier post today, from arubagirl, on this.

Hendrick - January 8th. 1942

http://www.lawyersaruba.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=10


http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/473

(70) Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betico_Croes


Gilberto François "Betico" Croes (b. 1938 d. 1986) was an Aruban political activist who was a proponent of Aruba's separation from the rest of the Netherlands Antilles. This eventually occurred, but Croes lapsed into a coma after an accident on 31 December 1985 (the night of status aparte) and was never conscious to see his accomplishment. He's called the father of the Aruban nation.
He also was responsible for major projects for the people of Aruba like F.C.C.A., Arubus, Sasaki Plan (he envisioned the area destined for hotels) and many many more.
Aruba's official Holiday to remember him has been marked on January 25, his birth date.
Caya G. F. Betico Croes is named for him and is the main shopping street in Oranjestad, Aruba.
Has 2 sons, Glenbert & Junior Croes.


Gold Coast Aruba
Says Rudy and Frito…pic didn’t show up, so I’m not sure what it is!
http://www.goldcoastaruba.com/newsDtls.aspx?id=21




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« Reply #99 on: April 15, 2008, 10:07:30 PM »

But, is Steve really Hendrick, Jr?  Would someone please shake that tree again? 

BTW, Sorry that I messed up that quote above Chata...my fault...I really should be more careful. Please forgive me.
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