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« Reply #900 on: April 25, 2008, 08:27:35 AM »

Is this what You needed Mum?

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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 17, 2008, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: vms on February 17, 2008, 07:51:35 PM
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Picture taken before Joran went to give his DNA




A larger version here: http://media3.comcast.net/data/news/photoshow/html/int_news/182889.html





Wel in this picture you can clearly see that they do not want to arrest him.

He is in handcuffs but with hand in the front, meanwhile the LAW says that during transportation hands must be handcuffs but in the back position till entering the building where they bring him in a seperate interogation room than handcuff release.

I bet you he jjust wals in ask for coffee and a hamburger.

This is just to show that how they treat one of there own..




Caps,
There has been much discussion on the other thread regarding the man on the left with the blue shirt, Ben King.  I have been trying to determine if he is a lawyer all day, have come to the conclusion that he MUST be considering the jobs he's held.  Please check out all of the posts regarding him.  If not the driver you're looking for, most definately one of the DIRTYHANDS!  In my opinion anyway.....



Thanks Hotping!...That could be it...I will have to go back and find where the discussions first came up with JE...I am NOT good with pics, but think it is him. I recall the discussions from that night when JE found the link and posted about it. Maybe Lala's can remember, not sure who else was posting that night. BBL



Yesterday  we had this discussion on the real Ben Vocking. You can see by my response to Hotping that I was not sure by looking at the photo she linked to if I was sure this was Ben Vocking. Vms posted the link to the previous discussions and I read back.

BINGO!..Then I was positive we had the right Ben Vocking! I had without knowing explained ‘in context’. JMO, but the posts have to be read this way – in context!


 

So was the picture I posted the wrong guy?


Sorry Blonde...I meant to leave you a post....the guy with the red sweater you posted yesterday is some-one else. Ovserver has posted the correct pics of Ben Vocking in the Aruban Who's Who in the Important Documents. I just checked and it is fixed...this time.

Have a great day...may be back if it rains soon!
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« Reply #901 on: April 25, 2008, 10:01:25 AM »

Yellowhammer - Alabama State Bird = Natalee

Jet ski boy - Max DeVries

Sabana Basora case - Rene van Heyningen

Parentless one - Lil' Orphan, a poster here at SM

The Tracy - TJ Ward



Too many doppelgangers. What's in a name? - Why he changed his name from Simian to Merian.


Don't fear parentless one. "Only the gray ape would behave as they do."
Merian is opting for a more human form to avoid doppelgangers.
- Speaking to Lil' Orphan and ticked at us because he was being questioned about being Simian.


Who dares to suggest the Simian knows the whereabouts of the Yellowbird? - Posters were saying if he knew where she was he should tell and quit playing code games.
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« Reply #902 on: April 25, 2008, 10:04:47 AM »

Oops!
The above was to Caps in reference to Merian...
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« Reply #903 on: April 25, 2008, 11:23:34 AM »



Aleen Sirgany, of CBS, refers to him as Van der Sloot's attorney....speaks of his young client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=704330n
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« Reply #904 on: April 25, 2008, 01:18:35 PM »



Aleen Sirgany, of CBS, refers to him as Van der Sloot's attorney....speaks of his young client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=704330n


Hi vms...I haven't been able to get it to load completely...will have to wait until early in the morning...are you saying that the video says that guy we think is Vocking is, according to CBS, his lawyer? TIA

Looks like I'll be doing more reading back!
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« Reply #905 on: April 25, 2008, 01:26:38 PM »




The media would always crop it:




Question for CAPS
Are you saying this photo that has been used so many times is actually a photo shopped photo and Joran was never in the photo?   Are you saying the three; Freddy, Satish, Deepak are the ones that are responsible for what happened to Natalee?    Just what are you trying to tell us about that photo?

I thought you had said Freddy was not there or not his real name or something like that.  I would like to know about that photo, please!!!
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« Reply #906 on: April 25, 2008, 01:36:39 PM »

After my last post it appears that some reading back may be in order! And maybe Caps can explain how he has posted previously on Ben Vocking, see my last post and there are more, but yesterday he didn't have a clue who he was!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.760


« Reply #763 on: April 24, 2008, 03:41:57 AM » Caps   
 
It 3:30 exactly. After reading the boek The Return of Dr. Nikola, I have these 2 question?

The motive. this was a crime to prove something, and it has to do with the new ICC in Holland. It is a gamble to break the US constitution. Some one had to die that night. it got to do with this court.

Now the next person  is the key Mr Vonk or what ever his name was. It was his Plan.

VMS: Will check in the morning on Luis Oduber. Have received answer but all are asking me the question "The one that use to own a restaurant".

Source will check with Directie Finance in the Morning.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.780


« Reply #768 on: April 24, 2008, 04:11:02 AM » Caps   
 
I need all Info about the KING becasue he is the man


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.800

« Reply #800 on: April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM » MumInOhio   
 
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

« Reply #818 on: April 24, 2008, 02:30:09 PM » Caps   
 
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps

I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

« Reply #819 on: April 24, 2008, 02:36:57 PM » 2NJSons

Did you try 'Vocking'???

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.820

   
 « Reply #820 on: April 24, 2008, 02:39:56 PM » Caps   
 
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps
I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

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Caps...I am not sure what you are saying...sorry! I thought we were talking about Ben Vocking who changed his name to Ben King! He was at KIA and I think now has another government job, possibly OM's office, but I honestly don't recall. Is this who you are asking about? TIA




« Reply #823 on: April 24, 2008, 03:03:34 PM » Caps   
 
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 24, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 24, 2008, 02:30:09 PM
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Caps...are you saying that this guy is Voking????

Mum
From what was posted a couple of months ago, I don't think so! But I really can't go and find it right now as it is in the large thread and I am popping in and out this morning! I recall alot of discussion on it and comments about how we had the wrong guy's pic all this time!

Caps
I don't think that his name is not Voking but maybe Vo King and he change is name for Ben King or Benking

It is strange no data on this man but lives in Aruba.

Must be protected data. not in Dbase

Did you try 'Vocking'???

Mum
Thanks...2NJSons...it was posted originally this morning as Vocking and in my post I missed the 'c'...maybe that is where Caps is confused...I know I am!

Caps
ok
now we are talking

Vocking   Bernardus FC               1/14/1948   Nijmegen   De La Sallestraat 14
Vocking, geb. de Droog   Anna MJ   6/3/1959             Amsterdam   De La Sallestraat 14

The man and the wife.












Well, I will say that I know the FACE of the man since 2002-2004 where he was driving arround in his small VW in the area where they are selling prostitution. I my research on The Man came from a person that know The Man very well and when I was posting the info's, he provided me with all the Info add that time from the Pictures I have showed to Him.

Now at 3:30 am I said What I said because my eyes and my brain was very tired but he came to mind the more I read the riddle. Now The Man had many diffrent name and one of it is Jaguar = Hunter, Benny, Benancio, King, The Man, etc. and for that reason I said "what ever his name is" becuase the more you search about this man one will find all kinds of stories and which part of these volumes of stories do we need.

VMS:

Also about the Yellowhammer vs Merian and not to confuse with the poster name Merian Ernest.

The Yellowhammer = Virginia and Merian = Natalee

The Yellowhammer flow Away and Merian DNA will be washed away with the Horacain Emily

Now for the YellowHammer to be Natalee, the it would be Natalee that flow Away, and Virginia'S DNA that is in the pond.

Question?
where is Virginia Page?


Also the introduction to the Kiwanis info came from some one that deal with this man in KIA. He worked for him and he confirm also that The Man stinks like onion. Poor Hygene.

So where is Jaguar
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« Reply #907 on: April 25, 2008, 01:37:49 PM »



Aleen Sirgany, of CBS, refers to him as Van der Sloot's attorney....speaks of his young client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=704330n


Hi vms...I haven't been able to get it to load completely...will have to wait until early in the morning...are you saying that the video says that guy we think is Vocking is, according to CBS, his lawyer? TIA

Looks like I'll be doing more reading back!

Aleen Sirgany says, "At court on Sunday, Van der Sloot's attorney said his young client was still holding up well."

Then he starts talking.

Maybe she got it wrong, Mum, but he was speaking on camera. 

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« Reply #908 on: April 25, 2008, 01:49:23 PM »

Caps,

We'll agree to disagree because I believe Merian was referring to himself as the poster, Merian, not Natalee.
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« Reply #909 on: April 25, 2008, 01:50:15 PM »

Virginia Page is in college last I heard and had nightmares about what could have happened to Natalee. IIRC she did not speak on the record for more than two years after the fact.

Virginia Page was very very distraught about Natalee and cried every nite for a long time.
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« Reply #910 on: April 25, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »



Aleen Sirgany, of CBS, refers to him as Van der Sloot's attorney....speaks of his young client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=704330n


Hi vms...I haven't been able to get it to load completely...will have to wait until early in the morning...are you saying that the video says that guy we think is Vocking is, according to CBS, his lawyer? TIA

Looks like I'll be doing more reading back!

Aleen Sirgany says, "At court on Sunday, Van der Sloot's attorney said his young client was still holding up well."

Then he starts talking.

Maybe she got it wrong, Mum, but he was speaking on camera. 




Thanks vms...wouldn't be the first time reporters got things wrong...LOL...I think there was some discussion as to Vocking being a lawyer, or at least the question was asked. Will see what I can find.

Caps...I had been up for 36 hours with maybe 2 hours of sleep when the posts were made yesterday and I clearly remembered that you had posted on Vocking on more than one occasion. Actually in two separate consecutive posts you posted MR VONK and KING!

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« Reply #911 on: April 25, 2008, 02:05:42 PM »

So do we have a correct photo of Ben Vocking or not?   Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #912 on: April 25, 2008, 02:07:11 PM »

Virginia Page is in college last I heard and had nightmares about what could have happened to Natalee. IIRC she did not speak on the record for more than two years after the fact.

Virginia Page was very very distraught about Natalee and cried every nite for a long time.

She is in college and will be a senior this fall.
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« Reply #913 on: April 25, 2008, 02:13:12 PM »

So do we have a correct photo of Ben Vocking or not?   Rolling Eyes

I have no idea? I will go back and revisit the discussions from February and see what I can find, also if there is anything on him being a lawyer. He was apparently working in the Prosecutors office, I think?

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« Reply #914 on: April 25, 2008, 02:18:17 PM »




The media would always crop it:




Question for CAPS
Are you saying this photo that has been used so many times is actually a photo shopped photo and Joran was never in the photo?   Are you saying the three; Freddy, Satish, Deepak are the ones that are responsible for what happened to Natalee?    Just what are you trying to tell us about that photo?

I thought you had said Freddy was not there or not his real name or something like that.  I would like to know about that photo, please!!!

What I said was before knowing about the lost of never seen Post of Merian, Reading them, it show and says clearly that there was a swith.

Now to make the swith, the picture should match on both sides of the photos.

Here is what I mean when I say Parallellism in photo art.

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« Reply #915 on: April 25, 2008, 02:21:32 PM »

Virginia Page is in college last I heard and had nightmares about what could have happened to Natalee. IIRC she did not speak on the record for more than two years after the fact.

Virginia Page was very very distraught about Natalee and cried every nite for a long time.

She is in college and will be a senior this fall.

Hi Lalas, she's a great young lady and I wish her the best in life.
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« Reply #916 on: April 25, 2008, 02:22:31 PM »

Klassend:

could you rezise the picture for me please it looked good on my system but looked to big in the post
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« Reply #917 on: April 25, 2008, 02:25:56 PM »

So do we have a correct photo of Ben Vocking or not?   Rolling Eyes

I have no idea? I will go back and revisit the discussions from February and see what I can find, also if there is anything on him being a lawyer. He was apparently working in the Prosecutors office, I think?





Peter de Vries had to get the "younger" pic from somewhere so I would assume he has correctly identified Vocking...
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« Reply #918 on: April 25, 2008, 02:27:41 PM »

I don't know anything about Parallelism.
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« Reply #919 on: April 25, 2008, 02:28:17 PM »

Klassend:

could you rezise the picture for me please it looked good on my system but looked to big in the post

I copy them and fix it
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