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« Reply #960 on: April 25, 2008, 04:29:59 PM »

So is that picture photo shopped or not?  I think we need to know...it goes back to Merian's verses and I want to know what is what...I don't like leaving things hanging like we have done lately. One of my peeves.
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« Reply #961 on: April 25, 2008, 04:31:26 PM »

Hi ya Chata... long time no see... good to see you posting and not lurking LOL

Thanks for the reply, I think you have it right by George. So, Freddy was chopped... that makes more sense.
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« Reply #962 on: April 25, 2008, 04:33:49 PM »

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I thought that Deutkohm guy was a judge? Is that the same as OM?  I didn't think it was, but I may be wrong.  How do you spell that name anyway?


I think he is a bigwig in the OM or Prosecutor's office? He was not on Kermit's judge's list? So I assumed he was not a judge, maybe Caps can tell us?

DEUTEKOM....LOL... I think!
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« Reply #963 on: April 25, 2008, 04:35:06 PM »

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He is the one we cal the behavior specialist.

is there a video? I'll capture the guy and post him.

Rob, it was on www.telearuba.aw and on the night that they arrested Hendrick Croes, I think it was on a sunday. I do  not remember the dates. at the end of MOS speech, he and MOS walk in the Police station.

Yes, there is 5 stories in Shango and thats why it is 50 pages now. The Ritz, Natalee, Drug, Money laudring,The corruption
all mixed in one big story.


thanks Caps, can you please provide me with the video archive? I don't see it listed. I'll go through the archive and get the video.
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« Reply #964 on: April 25, 2008, 04:35:52 PM »

funny (NOT) how Vocking didn't care one iota about Mathews' condition in jail which was 1000% more deplorable that Joran's. No cell phone smuggled in by daddy, no soccer, no nothing. Just two plus years of solitary confinement. 

I would say Vocking walked in all houses. He's a very likely candidate.

One of our monkeys...Ferljepper...thought King qualified as dirty hand also.  He walked with the elder...he knows who provided the escort..he walks in all houses...he was at the Sloots when they came to search. 

it does look very obvious.

VocKing is a dirty hand but he is not the top dirty hand.

The Top Dirtyhand is in the public prosecuter office. seek a list of these and you will not find him there. I know, The AircoMan knows. On the day that Hendrick was in trouble, he let his face seen for 5 min on the news behind MOS, where MOS was giving the speach in front of the police station. He was on TV and many people have asked who he is but most do not know him. He is the one we cal the behavior specialist. Still waiting on a photo of him. hard to get becuase where he is no cell or camara allowed. THE OM OFFICE.





Are you referring to the guy whose name I can't spell correctly...Duektohm...Duektohm...oh I give up...but is it this person?

Yes, Frans Duetekom, mistery man in the OM pulling the King string. Now he work with MOS and I do think they are watching how far the monkeys can get on finding the killers and for them to come with an other story. I know he is there, becuase Isaw him on TV. Some said that he was not in Aruba, but on the night of Hendrick croes, there he was. For Hendrick to be checking out of kia that night, is the work of Duetekom. BTW there is also rumors that Vonking was a Judge before a scandal that got him off the bench. ending up in Aruba but need to be checked this out.


Merian sayif there will ever be an end to this story.
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« Reply #965 on: April 25, 2008, 04:48:08 PM »



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« Reply #966 on: April 25, 2008, 04:56:07 PM »

Early notice, huh? 
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« Reply #967 on: April 25, 2008, 04:57:54 PM »

funny (NOT) how Vocking didn't care one iota about Mathews' condition in jail which was 1000% more deplorable that Joran's. No cell phone smuggled in by daddy, no soccer, no nothing. Just two plus years of solitary confinement. 

I would say Vocking walked in all houses. He's a very likely candidate.

One of our monkeys...Ferljepper...thought King qualified as dirty hand also.  He walked with the elder...he knows who provided the escort..he walks in all houses...he was at the Sloots when they came to search. 

it does look very obvious.

VocKing is a dirty hand but he is not the top dirty hand.

The Top Dirtyhand is in the public prosecuter office. seek a list of these and you will not find him there. I know, The AircoMan knows. On the day that Hendrick was in trouble, he let his face seen for 5 min on the news behind MOS, where MOS was giving the speach in front of the police station. He was on TV and many people have asked who he is but most do not know him. He is the one we cal the behavior specialist. Still waiting on a photo of him. hard to get becuase where he is no cell or camara allowed. THE OM OFFICE.





Are you referring to the guy whose name I can't spell correctly...Duektohm...Duektohm...oh I give up...but is it this person?

Yes, Frans Duetekom, mistery man in the OM pulling the King string. Now he work with MOS and I do think they are watching how far the monkeys can get on finding the killers and for them to come with an other story. I know he is there, becuase Isaw him on TV. Some said that he was not in Aruba, but on the night of Hendrick croes, there he was. For Hendrick to be checking out of kia that night, is the work of Duetekom. BTW there is also rumors that Vonking was a Judge before a scandal that got him off the bench. ending up in Aruba but need to be checked this out.


Merian sayif there will ever be an end to this story.


Where does Joran fit into all this?  What about the Kalpoes?  Is Paulus the real killer?
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« Reply #968 on: April 25, 2008, 04:58:32 PM »

O/T Update on Katysmom in lounge.
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« Reply #969 on: April 25, 2008, 05:00:50 PM »

Early notice, huh? 

you've been warned 

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« Reply #970 on: April 25, 2008, 05:03:29 PM »

Does anyone read at RU? We could always have WordsofWisdom examine the picture. She thinks every photo ever released of Natalee was photoshopped.  Rolling Eyes Laughing
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« Reply #971 on: April 25, 2008, 05:06:20 PM »

Hey, would that Tony be our Tony here at Scared Monkeys?  If so, maybe he would tell us if it was photo shopped or where he found it?
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« Reply #972 on: April 25, 2008, 05:12:17 PM »

Does anyone read at RU? We could always have WordsofWisdom examine the picture. She thinks every photo ever released of Natalee was photoshopped.  Rolling Eyes Laughing

what is this RU you speak of Grasshopper? 

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Caps, I can not find the video archive... I don't think they have one at telearuba. There is no search available.
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« Reply #973 on: April 25, 2008, 05:16:19 PM »

quote Caps-
He is the one we cal the behavior specialist.

is there a video? I'll capture the guy and post him.

Rob, it was on www.telearuba.aw and on the night that they arrested Hendrick Croes, I think it was on a sunday. I do  not remember the dates. at the end of MOS speech, he and MOS walk in the Police station.

Yes, there is 5 stories in Shango and thats why it is 50 pages now. The Ritz, Natalee, Drug, Money laudring,The corruption
all mixed in one big story.


thanks Caps, can you please provide me with the video archive? I don't see it listed. I'll go through the archive and get the video.

Frans van Deutekom, public prosecutor in Aruba ... spelled DEUtekom. 

Angelique Peterson, head of the Legal Affairs and Treaties Division, Foreign Relations Department in Aruba
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« Reply #974 on: April 25, 2008, 05:21:14 PM »

So do we have a correct photo of Ben Vocking or not?   Rolling Eyes

I have no idea? I will go back and revisit the discussions from February and see what I can find, also if there is anything on him being a lawyer. He was apparently working in the Prosecutors office, I think?





Peter de Vries had to get the "younger" pic from somewhere so I would assume he has correctly identified Vocking...


Thanks vms...I agree. Would still like to find where I recall the 'lawyer' from. It may have just been asked and no follow-up.
I don't think we could ever find anything defininate about King back in February.  I found this in the archives.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1154.msg165337#msg165337

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Also_Dutch Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:29 am   


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Later I hear from my parents that they searched the house today. Suddenly a horde of police, plain clothes detectives and press stand in front of our door.

Ben King, a good friend of my father's is visiting us with his wife. We know him for 15 years and my mothers is best friends with his wife. I also attended middle school together with their eldest daughter. He took two weeks off from work to avoid work and private to mix up. He works as policy-assistant at the Openbaar Ministerie, but as a non-jurist he is working on completely different cases, than the Holloway case.

 

The above quote is taken from page 165 of Joran's book. This cleares the matter of Judges at the Van der Sloot residence. Ben King is a civil servant and not a lawyer, judge or (A)DA.

I think I don't ahve to explain further



So it seems Ben King took time off his Aruban government ministry job immediately after Natalee disappeared and his sole intent was to derail the case, and was staying at the Van der Sloot house.

It is obvious, Klaas. This was a cover-up assisted by the government.

One more thing. The judge refused to a full search of the Van der Sloot  house FOR A SECOND TIME when PAULUS WAS ARRESTED.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #975 on: April 25, 2008, 05:28:57 PM »

There is only one problem with the parallel lines and photochopping Freddy and Joran. How can anyone not say those are Joran's chewbacca arms? He gets those from Paulus. He has the same gawd-awful hairy arms. Those are Joran's arms.

Maybe Freddy is not in the photo??? and chopped in?

just guessing ovah here!!! LOL



Rob,

I agree that those look like Joran's arms so he probably was not shopped, just used to fix the other (Freddy) in place.  But that is not Freddy's hand. IMO.  It looks like it would belong to Guido or more likely to Max, the photo guy.  Kinda effeminate ... delicate. 

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Max Arends…shopped in with Freddy aka Arends…both rumored to be a sleepover guest.
Nah!!!

Thanks TM…he protests too loudly!




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« Reply #976 on: April 25, 2008, 05:32:03 PM »

Thank you, texasmom!


Mr Miyrobi,

You know that place where the Revolting Unhinged post all kind of nasty stuff about Beth...
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« Reply #977 on: April 25, 2008, 05:32:59 PM »

Ben King, a good friend of my father's is visiting us with his wife. We know him for 15 years and my mothers is best friends with his wife. I also attended middle school together with their eldest daughter. He took two weeks off from work to avoid work and private to mix up. He works as policy-assistant at the Openbaar Ministerie, but as a non-jurist he is working on completely different cases, than the Holloway case.
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this says it all about Ben Voc / King's involvement. If Moses called me up tonight and asked me to take two weeks off of work I would say NO!!! I would never ever ever participate in the delay, stall cover-up tactics of a friend. If that makes me a snitch or a rat...I can live with that. That's probably why I don't have those kind of people calling me..

I'm calling the police PRONTO!!!  This goes to show you how serious this situation was. Ben Voc / King knew it all. He would be the first person I would have deposed if I were Bram Moskovitz. Step right up!!!
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« Reply #978 on: April 25, 2008, 05:35:05 PM »

I *suspicion* that is Ben Voc / King's little gray car seen at the rock area in one of the Aru-Bay videos.
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« Reply #979 on: April 25, 2008, 05:35:53 PM »

Thank you, texasmom!


Mr Miyrobi,

You know that place where the Revolting Unhinged post all kind of nasty stuff about Beth...

on the floor... tooo funnny!!
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