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« Reply #200 on: April 16, 2008, 04:41:32 PM »

now - the racquet club villas


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« Reply #201 on: April 16, 2008, 04:43:03 PM »

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« Reply #202 on: April 16, 2008, 04:50:34 PM »

Mum and Rob,

I saw you discussing the jewelry store connection this morning and I couldn't reply because I wasn't on my computer.  The recent jewelry connection that we had discussed was the mother of Daury Rodriguez.  When she was arrested, Ramona Tejada-Rodrigues said that she worked in jewelry sales. 
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« Reply #205 on: April 16, 2008, 05:59:40 PM »

CAPs,

more connections:

sometimes we would rent a hotel room. I happened that three guys were in the same room having sex with girls. I was given a blow job on a balcony once by an American girl while Deepak was in the bathroom with a girl and Freddy was in the room proper with a girl too. But we did never share a girl or did threesomes. That was going way too far for me. We did however make topless pictures of a girl in a hotel room once.
(source: Joran's book Page 4 & 5 (only a bit to page 5, the last page of this chapter):



Deepak had put on a DVD with music video's. One of them was Benny Benassi's video for Satisfaction. It was an x-rated version and had explicit sex-scenes in it. (Joran's book: Chapter 8 continued:page 11 + 12)



I took the camera to Freddy’s house.
We delivered the camera to Freddy,
and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja.
Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement June 24, 2005.



MARTINA, Karen Theresa Paulina   – Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy.  Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.  Was named by JQK as a date rape victim of Joran, but Tacopina claims she has said it was consensual








MORE CONNECTIONS ABOUT JEWELRY

HELEN BONGERS WORKS WITH JULIA RENFRO AT ISLAND TEMPTAIONS.
Heleen Bongers came to live on Aruba in 1977. After having taught English at La Salle College for a few years, she started working at Amigoe, Algemeen Dagblad and The News. Nowadays, she is a freelancer, writing articles for magazines and for charity projects. She travels a lot to
buy the latest jewelry for her five stores (Beauty and the Beast).

 
Heleen Bongers is secretary of the Clown Doctors of Aruba and the Sports for Life Foundation. She is married to Evert Bongers, a retired French teacher at Colegio Arubano
http://biblioteca.arubahost.com/index.php3?h=434







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« Reply #206 on: April 16, 2008, 06:25:40 PM »

It's April.  The hat and sweater were getting a little warm.  May I please have some patriotic accessories? 
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« Reply #207 on: April 16, 2008, 06:25:50 PM »

For what it is worth...I, for one, believe Caps is the real deal.

Is he/she possibly shango or simian?  Only Caps knows for sure.

What I do know is that the info is too specific and to close to what we know to be just speculation...

Look at his moniker on his avatar and the then look at where he/she is saying Natalee may have been placed...

I believe caps knows far more than is posted here...including...the truth...

maybe caps is the dea agent?  who knows, only caps...but he seems to know things that only someone who is well placed would know...

My suggestion?   listen to caps and try to figure his own riddles... nothing to lose...maybe even entertaining...but if caps really knows then he will lead us to Natalee and the entire riddle may be solved...

and...is caps any relation so the other guy?  the one who like Devries?  also with a c spelling? 

I really feel that the crap should end and someone should step forward who has the answers...this has gone on long enough...

the fact is, and we all dance around it trying to be careful...the mob and the drug cartel are behind all of this...and everyone in between are just patsies... The Noriega Doctrine needs to apply here and send Rudy and company to the states for prosecution, right?

Silverfox,

This is what I have believed from the beginning.  Joran did indicate that higher powers were involved.  I do not think he was refering to Oduber, Rudy Croes or any of the Aruban officials.  IMO only.

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« Reply #208 on: April 16, 2008, 06:35:25 PM »

For what it is worth...I, for one, believe Caps is the real deal.

Is he/she possibly shango or simian?  Only Caps knows for sure.

What I do know is that the info is too specific and to close to what we know to be just speculation...

Look at his moniker on his avatar and the then look at where he/she is saying Natalee may have been placed...

I believe caps knows far more than is posted here...including...the truth...

maybe caps is the dea agent?  who knows, only caps...but he seems to know things that only someone who is well placed would know...

My suggestion?   listen to caps and try to figure his own riddles... nothing to lose...maybe even entertaining...but if caps really knows then he will lead us to Natalee and the entire riddle may be solved...

and...is caps any relation so the other guy?  the one who like Devries?  also with a c spelling? 

I really feel that the crap should end and someone should step forward who has the answers...this has gone on long enough...

the fact is, and we all dance around it trying to be careful...the mob and the drug cartel are behind all of this...and everyone in between are just patsies... The Noriega Doctrine needs to apply here and send Rudy and company to the states for prosecution, right?

Silverfox,

This is what I have believed from the beginning.  Joran did indicate that higher powers were involved.  I do not think he was refering to Oduber, Rudy Croes or any of the Aruban officials.  IMO only.

CHATA

We know it couldn't be one former member though, he is a pillar of the community now.  Rolling Eyes Laughing

Seriously though, I agree. It makes sense to me too...
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« Reply #209 on: April 16, 2008, 06:41:13 PM »

Kermit,

Thanks for the info, especially the map with Monserat....it jogged my memory.
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« Reply #210 on: April 16, 2008, 06:46:48 PM »

Ringo did not go to Aruba with BestBuddy.

I have contacted BB. She can come here and post the truth if she wishes.

Thanks for clearing that up...so Bestbuddy did meet with Anita while there.  Wonder how that went?  I bet that was interesting. Do any of you know if she met Paulus?  I just wonder how much he really sweats in person.

I think it would be more reasonable to say that Bestbuddy encountered
Anita and Paulus at the jail and spoke briefly with them.  Bestbuddy did not meet with Anita as in a MedleyRelay sort of way.
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« Reply #211 on: April 16, 2008, 06:52:22 PM »

now - the racquet club villas





I remember the real estate records posted at another forum by someone
in Aruba and Paulus Van der Sloot was listed as owner of record on either
5 or 7 of the Raquet Club Villas.  I can't remember which number.
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« Reply #212 on: April 16, 2008, 07:00:26 PM »

Ringo did not go to Aruba with BestBuddy.

I have contacted BB. She can come here and post the truth if she wishes.

Thanks for clearing that up...so Bestbuddy did meet with Anita while there.  Wonder how that went?  I bet that was interesting. Do any of you know if she met Paulus?  I just wonder how much he really sweats in person.

I think it would be more reasonable to say that Bestbuddy encountered
Anita and Paulus at the jail and spoke briefly with them.  Bestbuddy did not meet with Anita as in a MedleyRelay sort of way.

 I agree with you.
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« Reply #213 on: April 16, 2008, 07:30:55 PM »

See Glenda's (Renfro) response below.  She's claiming Sidney Ponson owes her $80,000???
Posted at RU when asked how you got involved in the case and found RU:
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I blame all my many friends who have traveled to the island AND Sidney Ponson for getting me interested in this case when I heard the name Aruba mentioned.
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Sidney pulled Resigned into this case to do what... I get nothing but critisism from Resigned.... Is is because his Friend Sidney owes Glenda $80,000 ? Hey Pat... Tell Sid to F.Off. And his buddy too that got into gambling debts that was going to be killed if he didn't get the money right away.... Damn Pitchers...
OG, pay attention.
Shall we venture a guess as to how Glenda Julia has $80,000 to give someone for a gambling debt???  Or a guess as to if actual cash money was paid to have the debt forgiven or perhaps some other "favor" equal to $80,000.  We all know there's nothing that she can do that's worth that........maybe some other money making venture.....
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05063/466292.stm

Baseball Notebook: Ponson's assault case is postponed
Friday, March 04, 2005

By The Associated Press
The assault case against Baltimore Orioles pitcher Sidney Ponson was postponed yesterday in Oranjestad, Aruba, and a judge gave both sides until May 10 to reach an out-of-court agreement.
Ponson, 28, is accused of committing violence alone or in the company of others in public, kicking a person in the head and battering a person by hitting him in the face with his fist. If convicted, Ponson faces a maximum sentence of four years in jail, a fine and community service.
Judge Bob Wit, flown in from the nearby Dutch Caribbean island of Curacao to give the case a sense of impartiality, said he took the pitcher's career into consideration in postponing the case.
Wit said that Ponson's livelihood could be jeopardized if he has a criminal record because his U.S. work visa could be taken away. Ponson was born in Aruba, a semiautonomous Dutch Caribbean territory.
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Texasmom...could you please explain if this has anything to do with Natalee's case, other than Judge Wit, or Shango?  TIA
Mum,
Whether or not this has anything to do with Natalee's case is just what I would like to know also.  I have a lot of questions about Julia, and Sidney Ponson for that matter that I would like answers to.  I think I hinted at some of them in my post.  I don't expect anyone here to answer them, I will research those questions and come to my own conclusions.  My thoughts when I made the post were if Sidney Ponson had gambling debts to the extent of his life being threatened and Julia was the person he went to for help. Why would that be?  The March 2005 post indicates that he was still in trouble with the law and not in a position to be making any money in Major League Baseball.
http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/content/printer_friendly/bal/y2005/m03/d07/c959494.jsp
Visa issue sidelines Ponson
03/07/2005 5:57 PM ET
Since the charges are not settled, Ponson was told by his agent, Barry Praver, on Sunday night that he would be unable to pitch in any game that charged admission because he would be generating money, and Ponson has yet to obtain his work visa.
Ponson from everything I've read has had many problems including drinking and driving since he's been involved in MLB.  The following comment was made regarding his off season activities:
http://www.aruba-zone.com/content/view/154/1/lang,en/
Sidney Ponson stated that this off season he stayed away from his biggest problem, Aruba. What he meant is that in Aruba he knows many people and the lifestyle he lives by in Aruba is not the best for a Major League pitcher trying to revive his career.
Considering Ponson's age, his reputation, and his choices in friends and activities; I don't think it's a jump to believe that he could be involved with some key figures in the case.  The timing of the resolution of the criminal case he was suspect in also indicates to me that he could have possibly been on the island in the time frame of Natalee's disappearance.  The case against Ponson is suspicious from the beginning to me, I have a lot of questions about it. 
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« Reply #214 on: April 16, 2008, 07:32:38 PM »

Ringo did not go to Aruba with BestBuddy.

I have contacted BB. She can come here and post the truth if she wishes.

Thanks for clearing that up...so Bestbuddy did meet with Anita while there.  Wonder how that went?  I bet that was interesting. Do any of you know if she met Paulus?  I just wonder how much he really sweats in person.

I think it would be more reasonable to say that Bestbuddy encountered
Anita and Paulus at the jail and spoke briefly with them.  Bestbuddy did not meet with Anita as in a MedleyRelay sort of way.

I agree with you.

FWIW/IMO/etc:

Paulus/Anita/Renfro/Merryweather/etc
were waiting for the opportunity to use BB/her hubby:
as justification for Joran being allowed to return to NL
immediately following his release from KIA

BB had created a thread asking for suggestions
re places the monkeys would like her/hubby to visit in aruba

their trip was announced in advance
and they were followed everywhere from the beginning

IMO Paulus/Anita/Merryweather knew what they looked like
and that's why the Sloots struck up a conversation w/ them at KIA
and Merryweather had ALE search BB's backpack

they were laying the groundwork for that night ...
when bondia/Julia Renfro breathlessly posted in the LCD
that an american mercenary was attempting to "hit" Joran

bondia/Julia posted that this mercenary had sent threatening emails
and he was recognizable from his US military tattoos

went so far as to say that the suspected "hit"
might involve a nearby second story window overlooking KIA
and that this mercenary was also seen in front of Sloot home

Anita inviting BB/hubby to Sloot home for press conference
was icing on the cake:
provided a second sighting of mercenary "stalking" Joran

that night, I sent BB a PM or email/can't remember which ...
telling her what bondia was posting

BB came to the LCD and blasted bondia w/ both barrels
but the mission was already accomplished:
Joran was "understandably" being whisked off to NL
to keep him "safe" from the american mercenary



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« Reply #215 on: April 16, 2008, 07:41:58 PM »

Thank You Finngirl, that IS what I remember.
I thought I was loosing it for a few hours
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« Reply #216 on: April 16, 2008, 07:43:43 PM »

Ringo did not go to Aruba with BestBuddy.

I have contacted BB. She can come here and post the truth if she wishes.

Thanks for clearing that up...so Bestbuddy did meet with Anita while there.  Wonder how that went?  I bet that was interesting. Do any of you know if she met Paulus?  I just wonder how much he really sweats in person.

I think it would be more reasonable to say that Bestbuddy encountered
Anita and Paulus at the jail and spoke briefly with them.  Bestbuddy did not meet with Anita as in a MedleyRelay sort of way.

I agree with you.

FWIW/IMO/etc:

Paulus/Anita/Renfro/Merryweather/etc
were waiting for the opportunity to use BB/her hubby:
as justification for Joran being allowed to return to NL
immediately following his release from KIA

BB had created a thread asking for suggestions
re places the monkeys would like her/hubby to visit in aruba

their trip was announced in advance
and they were followed everywhere from the beginning

IMO Paulus/Anita/Merryweather knew what they looked like
and that's why the Sloots struck up a conversation w/ them at KIA
and Merryweather had ALE search BB's backpack

they were laying the groundwork for that night ...
when bondia/Julia Renfro breathlessly posted in the LCD
that an american mercenary was attempting to "hit" Joran

bondia/Julia posted that this mercenary had sent threatening emails
and he was recognizable from his US military tattoos

went so far as to say that the suspected "hit"
might involve a nearby second story window overlooking KIA
and that this mercenary was also seen in front of Sloot home

Anita inviting BB/hubby to Sloot home for press conference
was icing on the cake:
provided a second sighting of mercenary "stalking" Joran

that night, I sent BB a PM or email/can't remember which ...
telling her what bondia was posting

BB came to the LCD and blasted bondia w/ both barrels
but the mission was already accomplished:
Joran was "understandably" being whisked off to NL
to keep him "safe" from the american mercenary





Except we now know it was Cohen and not Merryweather...
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« Reply #217 on: April 16, 2008, 07:48:59 PM »

That's what I recall vms. At first we thought it was Merryweather and it turned out to be Steve Cohen.
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« Reply #218 on: April 16, 2008, 07:49:37 PM »






If you noticed the picture Kermit posted was taken by the Clauson Investigation Agency. This is who Best Buddy was in Aruba with. She posted lots of pictures for us. Told how they were followed . She met Anita and Paulus at the prison the day Joran was released. To bad our archives do not go forward to September 2005.  Also to bad the link for Clauson no longer exists because she also had it all posted on there as well. I always enjoyed her post. JMHO
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« Reply #219 on: April 16, 2008, 07:53:11 PM »

BestBuddy went to Aruba with our Hotshot on her second trip in early 2006..Also you can see a few pictures and some of the Clausen research on this blog near the bottom..

http://nataleehollowaywhatweknowsofar.blogspot.com/

BTW: I think you guys are really getting close to the truth on some of these posts! Excellent work and I can barely keep up on this thread! 
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