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whoa!!! now it's all making sense.
When the judge released Joran from KIA, he was released under
formal suspect status
and only permitted travel in the KINGDOM.
With all this hogwash about Mr BB being a mercenary, it shouldn't be too hard to connect a conversation between the Sloots and the Judge that used the alleged "hit" as a reason to get him off of Aruba.
SS
, thanks for the connection to the heroin shipments and the jewelry stores, but how do we connect them to the Kalpoes? I'm sure there are some Arubans working in those stores, but for the most part the workers all seem to be from Suriname. They are actually quite easy to identify due to their dialect. The speak English with a slight British accent, and indicative of an Indian decent. Mr. Ramierz's home does not look overly outlandish and he seems middle class, to me at least.
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Quote from: Rob on April 17, 2008, 08:42:19 AM
whoa!!! now it's all making sense.
When the judge released Joran from KIA, he was released under
formal suspect status
and only permitted travel in the KINGDOM.
With all this hogwash about Mr BB being a mercenary, it shouldn't be too hard to connect a conversation between the Sloots and the Judge that used the alleged "hit" as a reason to get him off of Aruba.
SS
, thanks for the connection to the heroin shipments and the jewelry stores, but how do we connect them to the Kalpoes? I'm sure there are some Arubans working in those stores, but for the most part the workers all seem to be from Suriname. They are actually quite easy to identify due to their dialect. The speak English with a slight British accent, and indicative of an Indian decent. Mr. Ramierz's home does not look overly outlandish and he seems middle class, to me at least.
Rob…
Will have to find it, but there is something in J’s book about a Judge Williams and Carlo from when he was released. We couldn’t find Judge Williams!!!
Really slow computer and working on some posts, but will find it!…Not sure if it’s the server..No way…only SM!!! Can not load pages to get to anything!!!
Sorry…Good Morning!!!
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Another thing, who wants to bet Mr BB was put on a watch list that would have prevented him from entering Holland?
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Rob…I don’t see much, but maybe some-one else will! Sept. 1st!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1097.0
Page 341
In April 2007 Dave will go together with the search and resque team of non-proffit organisation Texas EquuSearch to look for his daughter one more time.
On August 29 2006 my lawyer Anthony Carlo filed a written request to end the investigation against me because I am living under the threat of prosecution for too long. That would also end the status of suspect. On November 30 2006 is the hearing. On December 7 2006 I receive a short e-mail from my father:
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August 31st 2005
Joran goes to court and speaks with a judge for a very long time. He feels that this goes well until the judge forces a confrontation between him, Deepak and Satish. The Kalpoes maintain that they did not pick up Joran from the beach.
Joran hears that Freddy will be held in custody for another 8 days.
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September 1st 2005
Anthony visits again, has not heard back from the judge, only knows that Joran will be confronted with Deepak and Satish again on Saturday. Anthony leaves but returns ten minutes later and says, "Judge Williams has decided to release you on Saturday at 15:00." Joran jumps for joy.
P237
Paul meets with Joran and tells him that he has found a school for him in Arnhem.
September 2nd 2005
Joran learns that Freddy was released yesterday, the Kalpoes released earlier.
CHAPTER 16
Chapter 16: Back in a rush to the Netherlands
P 240
When Joran is released from KIA on Sept 4 he only has time to say goodbye to Freddy, Jaime, Sander and Koen, which bothers him. He doesn't want to go to the NL becase he has just been released. He wants to study in the US, but that was no longer an option because of all the media attention.
The next day he flies to the NL and enrolls at a school in Arnhem, where classes had already started two weeks before. Joran doesn't think that anyone at the school recognized him.
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For those of you who are asking about money laundering and diamonds...
Diamonds are a "controlled" commodity...
The mark-up is astronomical....thousands of percent
Diamonds, in reality are one of the most "plentiful" crystals on earth...but market control by diamond entrepreneurs is one of the most successful "cartels" in the modern world...
It is a perfect money laundering scheme...think about it... are there any diamond mines on Aruba?
bring in diamonds on the black market for pennies -- sell for thousands of dollars...
Just research it... it is there... There are countries on this planet where you can take a walk and find a big diamond on the walkpath...
but it is an exploited industry...workers in africa are assassinated if it is felt or determined by security guards that they might have even "swallowed" a gemstone...
The labor cost of extracting a diamond is pennies...but the mark-up to U.S. or European Retail is astronomical...
So...the question is...??? Why is there a diamond industry in Aruba, of all places... Unless the mafia is smuggling them in to launder money from???
This case gets more and more interesting as more of the underbelly of the darkside becomes more and more exposed.....right?
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Thanks for the segments Mum.
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Hi Ya Silverfox...
There are no diamond minds on Aruba. The DeBeers corp had a marketing plan for diamonds. I've seen this on the History channel countless times. The guy that owns DeBeers is not a DeBeers at all, but bought them out and conjoined several smaller mines in South Africa into the largest diamond producer on the planet. Diamonds have recently been discovered in Canada and the quality is much better. Fewer inclusions when taken on mass.
You're right, the mark up on diamonds is tremendous. It all started with a little ingenious plan to make a piece of pressurized carbon into a symbol of love and it was ingenious indeed. The carbon itself is not worth much without the marketing plan.
Industrial diamonds are not worth much either, as the quality is very low and only valued for the hardness and cutting ability.
IIRC, when you have a 1 carat diamond, that is twice as rare as a .5 carat diamond. And so on. When you get to the truly titanic size diamonds the rarity is astronomical. A 6 carat diamond would be twice as rare as a 3 carat diamond.
Russia has a vast store house of diamonds and if they released even one tenth of the stock the world price would plummet.
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Quote from: Rob on April 17, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
Thanks for the segments Mum.
You are welcome!
Rob…I thought it was Smid that released him in court, but the book said Carlo did it all in 10 minutes!
Also Freddy was released the 1st. and it had been said that he was to be held another 8 days!
Will have to do more research…I smell a rat!
Thanks for the link…will try it in a bit!
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 17, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: Rob on April 17, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
Thanks for the segments Mum.
You are welcome!
Rob…I thought it was Smid that released him in court, but the book said Carlo did it all in 10 minutes!
Also Freddy was released the 1st. and it had been said that he was to be held another 8 days!
Will have to do more research…I smell a rat!
Thanks for the link…will try it in a bit!
wait a sec... didn't the Freebirds do a piece on this? I seem to recall it was Smid. Carlo is powerless to release a formal suspect. He can file the papers and ask, but he can't make any decisions.
probably not a good idea to place too much credence in Joran's book, in my opinion. I know you know that and were just using it as a reference point. LOL
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Quote from: jackb on April 16, 2008, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 16, 2008, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 16, 2008, 04:41:06 PM
now - the racquet club villas
Louis Manseur owned most of the shares in this property. He pretty recently got ride of 15000 shares is I believe what I read in the Aruba News here while back. Thought that was interesting. This is a newspaper put out by ATAHA and bunch. JB
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On Wednesday, April 16, 2008 19:10 wrote secunda the following:
Those who suggest that there is one behind Steve Cohen is Shango?
Those stories still come from somewhere.
Is Steve Cohen at AHATA someone who has worked or is that just a verzinsel?
AHATA means Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association? On Aruba?
I do not know who said that, but Steve Cohen has indeed AHATA. He was also a member of a kind of "damage control" gang that The Strategic Communications Task Force said. I do not know if they still exist, but in those club were all sorts of notables that Aruba must 'protect' against bad press releases.
I am not sure, but I think he departed in 2006/2007 to America for the principal purpose of some kind of head to a local tourist office.
Yes Steve Cohen helped the damage control a great deal when he announced in front of millions that at least 2 of the boy had sex with Natalee before she dissapeared forever. He is now working for a company in Seattle Washington..
Jackb…
do you have more on the Mansurs and thae property around the Racquet Club? Was it Luis or Eric (the gardener worked for Eric)? TIA
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 17, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: Rob on April 17, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
Thanks for the segments Mum.
You are welcome!
Rob…I thought it was Smid that released him in court, but the book said Carlo did it all in 10 minutes!
Also Freddy was released the 1st. and it had been said that he was to be held another 8 days!
Will have to do more research…I smell a rat!
Thanks for the link…will try it in a bit!
wait a sec... didn't the Freebirds do a piece on this? I seem to recall it was Smid. Carlo is powerless to release a formal suspect. He can file the papers and ask, but he can't make any decisions.
probably not a good idea to place too much credence in Joran's book, in my opinion. I know you know that and were just using it as a reference point. LOL
LOL...more like a contradiction point. It was the Williams that has caught my attention! There is no Judge Williams, I've looked it up a couple of times on Kermit's judge list...we know another Williams...LOL
So who did Carlo talk to and come back 10 minutes later and tell Joran he was going to be released? Could be fiction, will do some checking! Need to recheck and see if the Kalpoe face to face happened, or if there was two!
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Texasmom…
Thanks for the response….Hmmm…..????
Sir Sidney Ponson
5/27/2005 against Detroit.
http://www.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20050527&content_id=1065147&vkey=wrapup2004&fext=.jsp&c_id=bal
6/01/2005 against Boston
http://www.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20050601&content_id=1071630&vkey=wrapup2004&fext=.jsp&c_id=bal
Texasmom,
I found this last night, it shows that Sidney did not pitch the days we are looking at.
Need to look at some Simian posts.
Is he related to the Racquet Club Ponsons? TIA
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MUM
I'm pretty sure the face to face with Joran and the Kalpoes happened. In fact, it happened twice.
Once they sat them down in a room at one of the police stations (probably Noord, but I'm not sure if it was Noord or Bubali) and they were blaming each other, and the second time was in the police van / car.
I recall this because most of us were questioning the tactic used by the police. It didn't seem to make any sense to any of us at the time.
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MUM
I'm pretty sure the face to face with Joran and the Kalpoes happened. In fact, it happened twice.
Once they sat them down in a room at one of the police stations (probably Noord, but I'm not sure if it was Noord or Bubali) and they were blaming each other, and the second time was in the police van / car.
I recall this because most of us were questioning the tactic used by the police. It didn't seem to make any sense to any of us at the time.
one other item, wasn't it Steve Cohen that claimed to have open the cell door and released Joran? I seem to recall that also.
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Quote from: Rob on April 17, 2008, 10:28:16 AM
MUM
I'm pretty sure the face to face with Joran and the Kalpoes happened. In fact, it happened twice.
Once they sat them down in a room at one of the police stations (probably Noord, but I'm not sure if it was Noord or Bubali) and they were blaming each other, and the second time was in the police van / car.
I recall this because most of us were questioning the tactic used by the police. It didn't seem to make any sense to any of us at the time.
one other item, wasn't it Steve Cohen that claimed to have open the cell door and released Joran? I seem to recall that also.
Yes...I'm sure it was!
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Bringing this over from the NAH thrad so as we have things together.« Reply #869 on:
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Quote from: johan555 on Today at 05:24:37 AM
on Fok :
On Wednesday, April 16, 2008 19:10 wrote secunda the following: Those who suggest that there is one behind Steve Cohen is Shango? Those stories still come from somewhere.
Is Steve Cohen at AHATA someone who has worked or is that just a verzinsel? AHATA means Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association? On Aruba?
I do not know who said that, but Steve Cohen has indeed AHATA. He was also a member of a kind of "damage control" gang that The Strategic Communications Task Force said. I do not know if they still exist, but in those club were all sorts of notables that Aruba must 'protect' against bad press releases.
I am not sure, but I think he departed in 2006/2007 to America for the principal purpose of some kind of head to a local tourist office.
from *******...
Yes Steve Cohen helped the damage control a great deal when he announced in front of millions that at least 2 of the boy had sex with Natalee before she dissapeared forever. He is now working for a company in Seattle Washington..
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 17, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
Kermit…Ribbitt…Ribbitt…Thank you once again
Are those villas the Surfside villas? The road does not appear to be paved in some pics!
Anyone know which ‘Star’ that Best Buddy is speaking of here? TIA
Back to the Racquet Club for me!
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Wow, BestBuddy! Great shots!
Any idea what kind of tip brought them there to investigate?
Were they back today...Sunday? Any resolution?
"Follow the Star"....The Racquet Club?
The sneaker?
Hi There,
Poster, "Walnut" posted about the tip yesterday on "Where would you look on Aruba"
The pictures were taken today, Sunday. I could not find anyone there digging yesterday.
The Raquet Club is right in the star's path also.
Good point!
The sneaker? I have lost my flip flops several times. There is very soft mud around the Fishermen Huts area.
the road that the Gardner took and around the Racquet Club are not paved.
This is the back of the Racquet Club
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Quote from: MumInOhio on April 17, 2008, 11:06:07 AM
Bringing this over from the NAH thrad so as we have things together.« Reply #869 on:
Today at 08:48:46 AM » *******
Quote from: johan555 on Today at 05:24:37 AM
on Fok :
On Wednesday, April 16, 2008 19:10 wrote secunda the following: Those who suggest that there is one behind Steve Cohen is Shango? Those stories still come from somewhere.
Is Steve Cohen at AHATA someone who has worked or is that just a verzinsel? AHATA means Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association? On Aruba?
I do not know who said that, but Steve Cohen has indeed AHATA. He was also a member of a kind of "damage control" gang that The Strategic Communications Task Force said. I do not know if they still exist, but in those club were all sorts of notables that Aruba must 'protect' against bad press releases.
I am not sure, but I think he departed in 2006/2007 to America for the principal purpose of some kind of head to a local tourist office.
from *******...
Yes Steve Cohen helped the damage control a great deal when he announced in front of millions that at least 2 of the boy had sex with Natalee before she dissapeared forever. He is now working for a company in Seattle Washington..
Dr Phil is unschooled as a journalist or as an investigator. He bought , hook line and sinker the claims of BHT that a boycott of Aruba.
If he has evidence that Natalee is alive he should immediately bring it to the FBI or authorities.
He is a blowhard who is using the case to build up his already inflated ego.
Esteban Croes
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Stephen Cohen
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2817 Cardiff Ave
Los Angeles CA 90034 USA
310.922.1378
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www.iacvb.org/images/resource_center/S102_Surviving.pdf
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Vms...Good Morning
...Thanks, I posted the link for Johann to come and read, on the 'Dutch' thread.
Kermit...Ribbitt again!...LOL...the gold bricks!
I am wondering if the Star could be the Grandfather of Aruban tennis? A Venezeulan, not Aruban! Something Hose, will have to check his name...I checked on him a while back.
Does anyone know if the girls played tennis at the Holiday Inn? The Sanchez fellow from the Racquet Club is/was their tennis pro! Thanks in Advance!
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=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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