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« Reply #580 on: April 22, 2008, 03:16:12 PM »

Armin called Ronnie Bernadina is his uncle. Said he was a fair man but stern.


Ronnie - FBI trained...Do you think he is clean Rob?
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« Reply #581 on: April 22, 2008, 03:18:41 PM »

Thanks, Rob. Still don't think that is a pic of Rufo...but anyway. 

Ok, so Papito and Ronnie. Hmmm. Still wonder about the Philadelphia connections > Rizzo and Cohen too...
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« Reply #582 on: April 22, 2008, 03:30:56 PM »

Armin called Ronnie Bernadina is his uncle. Said he was a fair man but stern.


Ronnie - FBI trained...Do you think he is clean Rob?

just my opinion Mum, but I don't think any of these cops should be wearing badges
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« Reply #583 on: April 22, 2008, 03:32:15 PM »

My error she is not rodriguez nor rodigues.


The god (PROSECUTOR TERESA DIANA CROES FERNANDES PEDRA ) with the misspelled name has led many astray.

I have seen people mispell PEDRA to PETRA and FERNADES to FERNANDEZ

Her real name is in RED

also

I think we have it wrong, In Aruba when the Prosecuter office issue a name to the new paper or radio, they will give first the INITIALS and the initials are alwway in the form of LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME and MIDDLENAME. That format is allways used till today.

BUT SCGJ <=> STEVE CROES xxxx xxxx but Solognier Cesar Gomez

I can be wrong but this is what I have .. I will check with KIA on the name.

Also there was a Solognier that was this saterday driving under the influence and was arrested for DWI,

The driver name is Hubert Solognier. trouble maker.

Will check database on this finding from VMS
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« Reply #584 on: April 22, 2008, 03:36:21 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy
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« Reply #585 on: April 22, 2008, 04:01:42 PM »

Gordo Enmisión and Merian both referred to the god with the misspelled name.
IMO, it meant Shango.

You are correct...I think the original spelling was CHANGO in mythology or whatever the origins of this story was.
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« Reply #586 on: April 22, 2008, 04:08:45 PM »

Sorry to bother everyone...but does anyone remember on Armin's myspace site where he has a friend that spells his last name as Croeze?  He is also there playing with a band and on his site somewhere...he calls Armin  "cuz".  That would fit into the obit I saw posted earlier.  I can't find the link to that myspace right now...sorry.
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« Reply #587 on: April 22, 2008, 04:13:51 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 
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« Reply #588 on: April 22, 2008, 04:18:04 PM »

Lala's...this one?

http://www.myspace.com/arminsolognier
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« Reply #589 on: April 22, 2008, 04:19:02 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 


Can you look up Armin or Armindo Solognier, please?
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« Reply #590 on: April 22, 2008, 04:22:07 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 

Marine Croes is supposed to be kin to one of the suspects, I believe it was Guido or GVC.  I keep thinking Guido. Dompig is supposed to be kin to the Kalpoes some way.   Jack b


Can you look up Armin or Armindo Solognier, please?
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« Reply #591 on: April 22, 2008, 04:23:48 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 
Now llok at the Political Implication,

These people are from the AVP party and not the Oduber Cabinet. and thats why both parties are talking with fork tongs. That means that there is someone from the MEP party involved.

There are two Casique of Macuarima:
the old man that Died in 2007 from the AVP party
and the new one is Robert Maduro from the MEP party.

Both are in corruption in some form. Both claim to be working on the Status Aparte. Seeing this, I can be certain that when they procecuted the Henny Eman ex prime minister, for fraudulent charges in his cabinet it looks like a slap on the hand that they got.

The Whispers that was calling from Holland = Mito Croes

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« Reply #592 on: April 22, 2008, 04:26:01 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 




Can you look up Armin or Armindo Solognier, please?

Marine Croes is supposed to be kin to one of the suspects, I believe it was Guido or GVC.  I keep thinking Guido. Dompig is supposed to be kin to the Kalpoes some way.   Since Steve Croes and Geoffrey Van Cromvroit are such good friends, perhaps Marianne is kin to Steve Croes  on one side and Cores is kin to GVC through one or the other parents.   So young people sometimes claim a "cuz" when it is somehow related by mirrage.   Jack b
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« Reply #593 on: April 22, 2008, 04:28:02 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 
Now llok at the Political Implication,

These people are from the AVP party and not the Oduber Cabinet. and thats why both parties are talking with fork tongs. That means that there is someone from the MEP party involved.

There are two Casique of Macuarima:
the old man that Died in 2007 from the AVP party
and the new one is Robert Maduro from the MEP party.

Both are in corruption in some form. Both claim to be working on the Status Aparte. Seeing this, I can be certain that when they procecuted the Henny Eman ex prime minister, for fraudulent charges in his cabinet it looks like a slap on the hand that they got.

The Whispers that was calling from Holland = Mito Croes




LOL...I asked 10 days ago who Mito Croes was!
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« Reply #594 on: April 22, 2008, 04:31:08 PM »


Now that we have narrowed Armin down to being Simian...would that make Merian Armin also?  If you read Merian...he supports the Simian in his verses...same email...so I am thinking they are the same person.  Armin does not appear to be female as some have thought...we can strike that one too, I guess.

This is pretty much what the monkeys have thought all along...it was someone closely connected to ALE...being fed info...now thinking on that line...when Simian comes out with the "package from the Hague" story and Shango calls him on it...that tell me that ALE knew there was a leak and was trying to find it...wonder what took them so long?

Who is Shango now?  He is known by Armin...I mean Simian...so would that take us back to Gabe?  Remember allyinmiami was friends with Simian and Checkme...this even makes sense when Checkme (which now tells me is and ALE insider for sure) asks Simian ..."are you working tonight?"  He meant in the band most likely.  BTW is that the only job this guy has? 


Caps??  Where does Armin Solognier work?  Surely, one of you contacts would know this.  Help me out here. Does he just play in the band?

Now, back to the 5th suspect...if it is Paulus and Merian is the same person as Simian (we have established that they certainly knew each other if not the same person) why does Merian implicate Freddy?  Merian tells us a few things that Simian did not.


Merian Ernest Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: This yellowhammer has flown her own course
The Babylonians' hands are tied. The owners of the hammer and the block will come down hard. The hours in the glass are 72.

The girl was carried by the Carib on a trip to the Canal. She was swept away on her own.
So they seem to think.

The Picaros are too busy to pull off such a job. It is beyond there scope.

The one crowned with laurels has been turned inside and out. He even asked for forgiveness.

This yellowhammer has flown her own course.


This Merian verse is saying to us that Natalee is gone out to sea...Merian certainly was aware of the Picaro story (drug runners taking her, mafia, etc.) Merian knew they had not done that...we know the seizure story was out there and given Armin's relation to ALE, he had heard this as well. Hmmmm. As I have said he too wishes to distance Joran and the Kalpoes from this crime. I am wondering if anyone has told him the monkeys now know the truth.

It would be nice if he would just tell us who the 5th is and why he wanted Freddy in the picture and why his cousin Steve was so stupid...or if he was paid for that alibi? Yes, Rufo was feeding him info...wonder who was feeding Rufo?  LOL!!!!

I am so happy that so many things we have thought about Simian are turning out to be correct.  This is a big step.


Oh what a tangled web we weave....
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« Reply #595 on: April 22, 2008, 04:35:15 PM »


Yes, thanks!  The guy is Jose Croeze...I was looking around at some other band sites and some photos...lots and lots of photos...and I saw him there in several of them.  Why can't these people spell these names all the same?  I had not seen the Croeze spelling that often.
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« Reply #596 on: April 22, 2008, 04:41:12 PM »

I have a Boolean headache just trying to read all of this.  CAPS and Finbar, who is #5???
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« Reply #597 on: April 22, 2008, 04:41:27 PM »

BTW....Kermit pointed at Ronny Bernadina as Dirty Hand once. 

Simian knew there was evidence...he says that Paulus was confronted with the evidence...now that we know this is true...going on the assumption that Armin is the elusive Simian...what was this evidence??  He says he doesn't know if it was from the cars or the house...what was it?

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
The father was confronted with evidence. Can’t confirm if it’s from the cars of the house. They needed this to make him talk.



Hey, have any of you guys listened to Armin's music?  Not too shabby.
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« Reply #598 on: April 22, 2008, 04:42:31 PM »

Already established that Armin works for the Caribbean Mercantile Bank unless there is another Armin Solognier. It appears to be the same guy, IMO.
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« Reply #599 on: April 22, 2008, 04:44:33 PM »

Thank you, Caps.  Very Happy

VMS:

The killer imust be an offspring of the following



Solognier   Francisco R                 9/20/1929   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Old man
Croes   Juan E                              8/8/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  Died in 2007 Grand PAPA
Croes, geb. Solognier   Elsa   10/29/1938   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  old man WIFE
Croes   Dionisio E                           12/12/1966   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  SON
Croes   Rosangela E               6/29/1979   Aruba   Seroe Pita 16A  DUAGHTER

Now from the SON or DUGHTER the primate must be. the primate is a cousin


 
Now llok at the Political Implication,

These people are from the AVP party and not the Oduber Cabinet. and thats why both parties are talking with fork tongs. That means that there is someone from the MEP party involved.

There are two Casique of Macuarima:
the old man that Died in 2007 from the AVP party
and the new one is Robert Maduro from the MEP party.

Both are in corruption in some form. Both claim to be working on the Status Aparte. Seeing this, I can be certain that when they procecuted the Henny Eman ex prime minister, for fraudulent charges in his cabinet it looks like a slap on the hand that they got.

The Whispers that was calling from Holland = Mito Croes




LOL...I asked 10 days ago who Mito Croes was!

Yes you did. Now, we find out it is the whisperer....this one I am assuming...

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 11:09 pm
The whisperer is on the line. The Babylonians know what happened, but their hands are tied. They do not own the hammer nor the block.
The owner of the hammer and the block will never carry the package from the Hague. The trias works infallibly.
The party-go-ers need to be pinched, but no one wants to be the cafone. Including the boy. Too much is at stake and he is no Ajax. He is biting his tongue so he won’t be able to speak. So afraid he is.
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