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Topic: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3 (Read 799752 times)
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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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May 03, 2008, 09:37:05 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 03, 2008, 08:48:18 AM
Good morning...
LOL at COLUMBO!
Can anyone correct me if I am wrong on any of this…TIA
Rosalie Klein…ex-husband is Captain Jethro Gesterkamp(Octopus)
Works with Julia, Dilma arends, Angela and Chemaly at Bon Dia
Two kids…one Analisa…other a boy – 18 to 20...hmmm...
Wasn’t Margaret Wever also tied to The News?(Maybe there is two of Margaret)
By Rosali Klein,
The News Aruba
publications Tuesday, March 1, 2005
Passover in Aruba
by Rosalie Klein
I usually report about the Passover Seder and most events for
The News
, I am always
assigned the holidays, as they know I will be there anyway. This year I took two pictures that each
said a thousand words.
Edit...Analisa worked with Julia, I think!
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I was told she is scubajab
I'm not sure if this is her,
http://www.caribbeanfireworks.com/media__fire.htm
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That could be her sister I had this picture saved as her.
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Has CAPS bailed out on us?
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Quote from: SS on May 03, 2008, 11:25:54 AM
Has CAPS bailed out on us?
I don't think so, saw him here night before last. He is probably busy researching and just hasn't had anything to say lately.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 03, 2008, 08:48:18 AM
Good morning...
LOL at COLUMBO!
Can anyone correct me if I am wrong on any of this…TIA
Rosalie Klein…ex-husband is Captain Jethro Gesterkamp(Octopus)
Works with Julia, Dilma arends, Angela and Chemaly at Bon Dia
Two kids…one Analisa…other a boy – 18 to 20...hmmm...
Wasn’t Margaret Wever also tied to The News?
(Maybe there is two of Margaret)
By Rosali Klein,
The News Aruba
publications Tuesday, March 1, 2005
Passover in Aruba
by Rosalie Klein
I usually report about the Passover Seder and most events for
The News
, I am always
assigned the holidays, as they know I will be there anyway. This year I took two pictures that each
said a thousand words.
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/favorite-free-aruba-newspaper-27300/#post92619
06-05-2007, 10:32 AM post #11 (permalink)
margaret wever
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Posts: 157 Hi everyone!
FYI: I am not voting on this one, as proud as I am of our paper and as confident as I am in our product, I still believe it would not be ethical and very unfair for me to participate at voting on this survey.
I am taking the opportunity to say Masha Masha Danki to all who enjoy THE NEWS and have expressed it here and also to say thank you for your observations which will only benefit the product and its content that we proudly offer you while you are on the island.
And what made me really answer on this post: I am writing - after seeing the many remarks - to say that we aim to have a website running sometime in the very very near future.
And as sincere as I am: I should tell you that I too enjoy most reading up on "Aruba" in English online on Amigoe.com when I am off-island.
Sunny regards, Margaret
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/welcome-back-margaret-28961/
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Images: 9 Welcome Back Margaret!
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I know I for one have missed your expertise!
Any updates on your plans for getting "THE NEWS" online? A lot of people are really frustrated by the manner in which Aruba Today has switched over their online version, poor format and last but not least, lack of timely updates. We need a breath of fresh "NEWS".
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Does anyone remember who Caps finally settled on as Dirty Hand? I have too many names and none of them fit....
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 03, 2008, 01:06:09 PM
Does anyone remember who Caps finally settled on as Dirty Hand? I have too many names and none of them fit....
Lala's, in my opinion there is more than one DH in this case. Caps discussed what he considers a "super" DH at the following link. Hope it helps!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg377317#msg377317
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 03, 2008, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 03, 2008, 08:48:18 AM
Good morning...
LOL at COLUMBO!
Can anyone correct me if I am wrong on any of this…TIA
Rosalie Klein…ex-husband is Captain Jethro Gesterkamp(Octopus)
Works with Julia, Dilma arends, Angela and Chemaly at Bon Dia
Two kids…one Analisa…other a boy – 18 to 20...hmmm...
Wasn’t Margaret Wever also tied to The News?(Maybe there is two of Margaret)
By Rosali Klein,
The News Aruba
publications Tuesday, March 1, 2005
Passover in Aruba
by Rosalie Klein
I usually report about the Passover Seder and most events for
The News
, I am always
assigned the holidays, as they know I will be there anyway. This year I took two pictures that each
said a thousand words.
Edit...Analisa worked with Julia, I think!
There is a Margaret Weaver (spelling?) who is a very well known writer, who works (ed?) for the Associated Press and has written and has been published for years. I have wondered about this connection as well. jackb
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Thanks TM.
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 03, 2008, 02:03:12 PM
Thanks TM.
You're welcome, LM.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Rosalie Klein on the right:
Julia, Dilma, Tito, Annalisa, & Angela all in this photo:
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I wonder if The Muffin Man is related to Scubajap?...page 14
http://www.colegioarubano.aw/colarin/print/oktober2005.pdf
Lala's...
did you see that Rosalie is Jewish...Follow that Star...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/syncarib.html
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May 04, 2008, 10:13:19 AM »
Lots of dots…I believe this may be the right path!...Thanks vms for posting the Freddy info!
Vms posted this pic of Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis aka Arends a little while back. Below is Caps translation..followed by a Ghislaine I found…
« Reply #1925 on: April 14, 2008, 01:11:33 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.1920
« Reply #1932 on: April 14, 2008, 02:31:41 PM » Caps translation
Today, this sweet sweet guy made another year of his easy live. No other than FREDDY ZEDAM. He receives bunch of Hugss and Kisses from all his fammaly Much more kisses from all his admirers who at this moment are too much to mention.HaHaHaHa what did you think, did you think you where not going to be in the news papers?
Well as you know my treasure, enjoy your day and don't do any thing too much, TQM=Te Quiero Mucho = I love you very much,
your little sister Ghis.
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Vc8kvePbQrUJ:www.arruwac.com/docs/beticomemorial2008_5krunwalk.pdf+Randy+Habibe+and+Jossy+Arends&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us
839 ARENDS GHISLAINE
Posted again by vms a while back…
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.1920
« Reply #1929 on: April 14, 2008, 01:50:48 PM »
Note Freddy is from Maracaibo, his brother Ernesto said he is from Porlamar?
Re: Arends Family in Aruba
Jun 17, 2006 ... ALBERT MAXIMILIAAN (MOKKI) ARENDS -- Mokki Arends was born in the early 1950's and I believe in Aruba or Maracaibo, Venezuela. ...genforum.genealogy.com/arends/messages/159.html
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Since we spend an inordinate amount of time arguing what initials stand for in this thread, I thought I would continue to muddy the waters even more....
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively agent first class and sergeant at the Korps police force Aruba and at the section district II, state the following:
On 18 June 2005, the S.G.C.J Croes faced suspect around 17:35, a closed meeting with the suspect Joran was faced.
The suspected S.G.C.J Croes stated:
- That he does not know the suspect J.A.P.van der Sloot
- That he had never seen the suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot ever before in his life.
The suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot stated
- That he did not know S.G.C.J. Croes
- That suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot had never seen the suspect S.G.C.J. Croes ever before in his life.
Of this we, ERASMUS and KELLY, on our oath as officers made this statement, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 18, 2005.
Signed,
J.M. ERASMUS S.B. KELLY
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 04, 2008, 10:27:12 AM
Since we spend an inordinate amount of time arguing what initials stand for in this thread, I thought I would continue to muddy the waters even more....
PROCES - VERBAAL
We, Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, respectively agent first class and sergeant at the Korps police force Aruba and at the section district II, state the following:
On 18 June 2005, the S.G.C.J Croes faced suspect around 17:35, a closed meeting with the suspect Joran was faced.
The suspected S.G.C.J Croes stated:
- That he does not know the suspect J.A.P.van der Sloot
- That he had never seen the suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot ever before in his life.
The suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot stated
- That he did not know S.G.C.J. Croes
- That suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot had never seen the suspect S.G.C.J. Croes ever before in his life.
Of this we, ERASMUS and KELLY, on our oath as officers made this statement, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 18, 2005.
Signed,
J.M. ERASMUS S.B. KELLY
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg371803#msg371803
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.1920
reply #1939
Posted on SM Front Page
UPDATE: Initials S.C. born 21 -07-1978 –> Has only one hit in national health system: Steve Gregg C. J. Croes
http://scaredmonkeys.com/index.php?s=seroe
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: Kermit on April 23, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
CROES-RIDDERSTAAT, JERNEY JULISSA, MONTANJA #13 NOORD
ARENDS , RAYMOND MAXIMILIAN, MONTANJA #10 NOORD
Accross the street from Joran:
WU , QIAOMEI, MONTANJA #18 NOORD
Also lots of Tromp's in the area as well.
Max’s parents…Raymond and Vanessa…Montanja #10
Arends-Werleman Elaine Deborah..same address per phone book…also on Chamber list
Any idea who this would be?… TIA
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Reply #1297 on:
May 04, 2008, 01:32:47 PM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 04, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 23, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
CROES-RIDDERSTAAT, JERNEY JULISSA, MONTANJA #13 NOORD
ARENDS , RAYMOND MAXIMILIAN, MONTANJA #10 NOORD
Accross the street from Joran:
WU , QIAOMEI, MONTANJA #18 NOORD
Also lots of Tromp's in the area as well.
Max’s parents…Raymond and Vanessa…Montanja #10
Arends-Werleman Elaine Deborah..same address per phone book…also on Chamber list
Any idea who this would be?… TIA
IIRC one of the maids for the VDS was named Werleman, I'll check.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Reply #1298 on:
May 04, 2008, 01:36:37 PM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 04, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 23, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
CROES-RIDDERSTAAT, JERNEY JULISSA, MONTANJA #13 NOORD
ARENDS , RAYMOND MAXIMILIAN, MONTANJA #10 NOORD
Accross the street from Joran:
WU , QIAOMEI, MONTANJA #18 NOORD
Also lots of Tromp's in the area as well.
Max’s parents…Raymond and Vanessa…Montanja #10
Arends-Werleman Elaine Deborah..same address per phone book…also on Chamber list
Any idea who this would be?… TIA
Mum,
The problem with that is Max's father's name is
Maximiliano
F. Arends.
ARENDS MAXIMILIANO FRANCISCO PALMITASTRAAT 1
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm
http://www.acs-aec.org/Disasters/NatDisas/English/PF%20DN%2008092004%20Updated.xls
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
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Reply #1299 on:
May 04, 2008, 01:43:54 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on May 04, 2008, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 04, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 23, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
CROES-RIDDERSTAAT, JERNEY JULISSA, MONTANJA #13 NOORD
ARENDS , RAYMOND MAXIMILIAN, MONTANJA #10 NOORD
Accross the street from Joran:
WU , QIAOMEI, MONTANJA #18 NOORD
Also lots of Tromp's in the area as well.
Max’s parents…Raymond and Vanessa…Montanja #10
Arends-Werleman Elaine Deborah..same address per phone book…also on Chamber list
Any idea who this would be?… TIA
IIRC one of the maids for the VDS was named Werleman, I'll check.
Nope, wrong one....and there are lots of Werleman's in Aruba too!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
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===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
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