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GBMW
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 02:55:07 PM »
The Thailand rumour I posted a while ago has been confirmed by Peter R. de Vries.
It was mentioned on RTL Boulevard this evening:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3851774/_Joran_steelt_geld_van_vriend__.html
I haven't seen the show so haven't seen the segment on RTL Boulevard myself.
I will translate the article and post it.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:03:04 PM »
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 02:55:07 PM
The Thailand rumour I posted a while ago has been confirmed by Peter R. de Vries.
It was mentioned on RTL Boulevard this evening:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3851774/_Joran_steelt_geld_van_vriend__.html
I haven't seen the show so haven't seen the segment on RTL Boulevard myself.
I will translate the article and post it.
GBMW...Thanks!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:12:11 PM »
di 22 apr 2008, 19:04
"Joran steals money from friend"
AMSTERDAM - Joran is not in a psychiatric institution, but Celebrating in Thailand. From there, he would have the Dutchman Martin Bakx off.
Bakx gave even the log of his bank account to which Joran in trouble because he would sit in Thailand was caught with drugs. He begged for money to be internetvriend 'decade to prevent cell, "said Bakx Blulevard at RTL.
Everyone was in the assumption that Joran Saturday in a psychiatric institution. 'That is all well ingetrapt "said Joran against Bakx who had contacted him on the Internet.
Initially created Mart euros in 1000, but later plunderde Joran the account of the goeddoener. Eventually disappeared 6000 euro, as the gedupeerde claims.
"He's very naive and knullig been," says Peter R de Vries that the case made public. According to the crime reporter about Joran partying all evening in Hong Kong and Thailand and is apparently in debt affected.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:23:56 PM »
This message ( that he is in thailand )can be misinfo!!!!!
The mother of Joran told 1 hour ago that Joran is in the Netherlands.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:28:07 PM »
Quote from: johan555 on April 22, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 11:19:07 AM
Johan.... have you seen the first Peter R. de Vries special? Do you know what's up with the de Wit / de Witte? judge vs police commissioner?
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I checked the segment on the Peter R. de Vries Show: Karin Janssen confirmed in a letter (a reply to the long letter that Peter R. de Vries sent her since the ALE wouldn't answer questions on camera) that de Wit changed the search warrant.
You do mean the Judge Wit, and not the police commissioner, deWit...correct?
Hi Buckeye...checked it...but it's about police commissioner de Wit (head of the investigation at the time) who limited the warrant.
I have to go, but deWitte wasn't the head of the team until Jan 2007...only the coast guard...plus...Judge wit already gave a response about the search. Just wondering what "the letter" said.
I'm really confused now .
They do say de Wit and not de Witte....to add some more confusion
They show the letter but you can't read it; it's in a graphic. Peter sent 6 pages with questions and she sent a response. It's also mentioned that Peter asked 5 questions about Ben King being there and none of those questions were answered.
gmbw
The Honourable Mr. Justice Jacob Wit (
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And there are rumours that he is in trouble !
i will find that out
lol, tell us more about what kind of trouble he's in, please. and thanks for being here.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:32:37 PM »
LOOSE TRANSLATION!!!!
"Joran steals money from friend"
AMSTERDAM - Joran is not in a psychiatric institution, but is celebrating in Thailand. From there, he supposedly tricked the Dutchman Martin Bakx.
Bakx even gave the log in information from his bank account to Joran who got into trouble in Thailand because he was caught with drugs. He begged for money from his internetfriend to prevent going to jail for 10 years.
Everyone assumed he was in a psychiatric institution. "I fooled everyone" said Joran who had contacted him on the Internet.
Initially Mart transferred 1000 Euros but eventually 6000 Euros disappeared out of his account.
"He's very naive and knullig (clumsy...not the accurate word)," says Peter R de Vries that this public. According to the crime reporter Joran has been partying all over in Hong Kong and Thailand and is apparently gotten into some financial problems.
Here is a linke where you could watch the video (it's the first one):
http://www.rtl.nl/actueel/rtlboulevard/search/index.xml?q=joran&zoek.x=0&zoek.y=0&t=article&t=video
What is mentioned in the video / show:
* they met through the internetsite Hyves (a Dutch version of a site like Myspace); 2 years ago
* he called on a monday saying he was busted with drugs and needed to pay 4000 Euros to a cop before that thursday. Bakx gave him that money as a loan.
* Joran said later on he wanted to live with him for 6 months. He would pay back the money he lent...but he needed money for a planeticket. Bakx gave him his log in codes & Joran got money from his account....and wasn't heard from since then.
* Martin Bakx sent a letter to Paulus & Anita
There were a couple fragments of the moneytransfers shown...not a lot and very quickly...but it does state both their names.
He did seem a bit like a lonely man, even had a photo album with internetpictures of Joran & Jorans picture on the wall.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:35:11 PM »
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 02:55:07 PM
The Thailand rumour I posted a while ago has been confirmed by Peter R. de Vries.
It was mentioned on RTL Boulevard this evening:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3851774/_Joran_steelt_geld_van_vriend__.html
I haven't seen the show so haven't seen the segment on RTL Boulevard myself.
I will translate the article and post it.
"he got into trouble in Thailand because he was caught with drugs.
he begged a friend on internet for money to prevent a 10 year prison term"
very heavy drugs penalties in Thailand. including death penalty.
it doesn't say what kind of drugs or the amount.
but how can you prevent a prison term by paying money?
that's probably the way Joran thinks of law enforcement.
he choose one of the worse countries to get caught with drugs.
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caesu
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:39:12 PM »
Quote from: johan555 on April 22, 2008, 03:23:56 PM
This message ( that he is in thailand )can be misinfo!!!!!
The mother of Joran told 1 hour ago that Joran is in the Netherlands.
mother of Joran is more likely lying.
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caesu
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:51:35 PM »
right, this Martin Bakx guy is somewhat of a sad lonely soul.
Joran took advantage of that with the B.S. story that he was caught with drugs in Thailand.
Martin gave Joran his banking details and Joran took the money.
but Peter R. said he knew already Joran was in HK and Thailand on holiday.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 03:55:19 PM »
why the heck does that clumsy fool have a picture of Joran on his wall?
what's next? a picture of Joseph Mengele?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 04:00:58 PM »
Quote from: Rob on April 22, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
why the heck does that clumsy fool have a picture of Joran on his wall?
what's next? a picture of Joseph Mengele?
and he still couldn't get himself to take the picture of the wall because it reminded him of the nice contact he had with Joran. of course Joran doesn't hesitate to take advantage of such fools.
also GeenStijl says someone from Thailand said Joran is having fun with American tourists and they want to take pictures with him. but this might be made up by Geenstijl.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 03:32:37 PM
LOOSE TRANSLATION!!!!
"Joran steals money from friend"
AMSTERDAM - Joran is not in a psychiatric institution, but is celebrating in Thailand. From there, he supposedly tricked the Dutchman Martin Bakx.
Bakx even gave the log in information from his bank account to Joran who got into trouble in Thailand because he was caught with drugs. He begged for money from his internetfriend to prevent going to jail for 10 years.
Everyone assumed he was in a psychiatric institution. "I fooled everyone" said Joran who had contacted him on the Internet.
Initially Mart transferred 1000 Euros but eventually 6000 Euros disappeared out of his account.
"He's very naive and knullig (clumsy...not the accurate word)," says Peter R de Vries that this public. According to the crime reporter Joran has been partying all over in Hong Kong and Thailand and is apparently gotten into some financial problems.
Here is a linke where you could watch the video (it's the first one):
http://www.rtl.nl/actueel/rtlboulevard/search/index.xml?q=joran&zoek.x=0&zoek.y=0&t=article&t=video
What is mentioned in the video / show:
* they met through the internetsite Hyves (a Dutch version of a site like Myspace); 2 years ago
* he called on a monday saying he was busted with drugs and needed to pay 4000 Euros to a cop before that thursday. Bakx gave him that money as a loan.
* Joran said later on he wanted to live with him for 6 months. He would pay back the money he lent...but he needed money for a planeticket. Bakx gave him his log in codes & Joran got money from his account....and wasn't heard from since then.
* Martin Bakx sent a letter to Paulus & Anita
There were a couple fragments of the moneytransfers shown...not a lot and very quickly...but it does state both their names.
He did seem a bit like a lonely man, even had a photo album with internetpictures of Joran & Jorans picture on the wall.
Thanks for the translations GMBW! This is bizarre. Do I read this right that Joran borrowed money from the Martin guy, promised him six months worth of boodie in return, and then robbed his bank account?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 04:05:53 PM »
Quote from: caesu on April 22, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: johan555 on April 22, 2008, 03:23:56 PM
This message ( that he is in thailand )can be misinfo!!!!!
The mother of Joran told 1 hour ago that Joran is in the Netherlands.
mother of Joran is more likely lying.
Where did you hear this Johan? But it could very well be that Joran is in the Netherlands...he's had the money for the ticket
. Seriously: this played some time ago...he's had enough time from stealing the money - travelling to home sweet home again.
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April 22, 2008, 04:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Dayhiker on April 22, 2008, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 03:32:37 PM
LOOSE TRANSLATION!!!!
"Joran steals money from friend"
AMSTERDAM - Joran is not in a psychiatric institution, but is celebrating in Thailand. From there, he supposedly tricked the Dutchman Martin Bakx.
Bakx even gave the log in information from his bank account to Joran who got into trouble in Thailand because he was caught with drugs. He begged for money from his internetfriend to prevent going to jail for 10 years.
Everyone assumed he was in a psychiatric institution. "I fooled everyone" said Joran who had contacted him on the Internet.
Initially Mart transferred 1000 Euros but eventually 6000 Euros disappeared out of his account.
"He's very naive and knullig (clumsy...not the accurate word)," says Peter R de Vries that this public. According to the crime reporter Joran has been partying all over in Hong Kong and Thailand and is apparently gotten into some financial problems.
Here is a linke where you could watch the video (it's the first one):
http://www.rtl.nl/actueel/rtlboulevard/search/index.xml?q=joran&zoek.x=0&zoek.y=0&t=article&t=video
What is mentioned in the video / show:
* they met through the internetsite Hyves (a Dutch version of a site like Myspace); 2 years ago
* he called on a monday saying he was busted with drugs and needed to pay 4000 Euros to a cop before that thursday. Bakx gave him that money as a loan.
* Joran said later on he wanted to live with him for 6 months. He would pay back the money he lent...but he needed money for a planeticket. Bakx gave him his log in codes & Joran got money from his account....and wasn't heard from since then.
* Martin Bakx sent a letter to Paulus & Anita
There were a couple fragments of the moneytransfers shown...not a lot and very quickly...but it does state both their names.
He did seem a bit like a lonely man, even had a photo album with internetpictures of Joran & Jorans picture on the wall.
Thanks for the translations GMBW! This is bizarre. Do I read this right that Joran borrowed money from the Martin guy, promised him six months worth of boodie in return, and then robbed his bank account?
I don't know what boodie means?...my english isn't perfect...sorry LOL
The man borrowed Joran money....and Joran got a bit more from his account without asking
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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April 22, 2008, 04:10:37 PM »
Quote from: caesu on April 22, 2008, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 02:55:07 PM
The Thailand rumour I posted a while ago has been confirmed by Peter R. de Vries.
It was mentioned on RTL Boulevard this evening:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3851774/_Joran_steelt_geld_van_vriend__.html
I haven't seen the show so haven't seen the segment on RTL Boulevard myself.
I will translate the article and post it.
"he got into trouble in Thailand because he was caught with drugs.
he begged a friend on internet for money to prevent a 10 year prison term"
very heavy drugs penalties in Thailand. including death penalty.
it doesn't say what kind of drugs or the amount.
but how can you prevent a prison term by paying money?
that's probably the way Joran thinks of law enforcement.
he choose one of the worse countries to get caught with drugs.
Thanks Caesu! So Peter D confirms Joran got caught with drugs in HK or Thailand? So much for the insanity plea, he's just a druggie.
Do we know whether he is clear of prosecution for the drug violations? That he paid his way out?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
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Quote from: GBMW on April 22, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on April 22, 2008, 04:05:41 PM
Thanks for the translations GMBW! This is bizarre. Do I read this right that Joran borrowed money from the Martin guy, promised him six months worth of boodie in return, and then robbed his bank account?
I don't know what boodie means?...my english isn't perfect...sorry LOL
The man borrowed Joran money....and Joran got a bit more from his account without asking
That would be sexual favors BBMW.
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Sorry, I meant GMBW!
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Geez, my internet provider shuts down for maintenance for a couple hours and suddenly Joran is in Thailand, LOL
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Quote from: Rob on April 22, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
why the heck does that clumsy fool have a picture of Joran on his wall?
what's next? a picture of Joseph Mengele?
Anybody foolish enough to give Joran their bank account number is three Clydesdales short of a Budweiser commercial. He must be a fool!
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Quote from: klaasend on April 22, 2008, 04:14:35 PM
Geez, my internet provider shuts down for maintenance for a couple hours and suddenly Joran is in Thailand, LOL
Joran has a way of keeping the case in the news, doesn't he?
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=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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