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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 11:29:59 AM »

Rob ... it is a Hugo Chavez issue that I contend is at the root of the United States Administration's reluctance to act on the perception that a corrupt Aruban investigation is denying an American citizen the justice that she is entitled to under both the Dutch and American Justice System.

What do you think?

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2008, 11:35:40 AM »

Rob ... it is a Hugo Chavez issue that I contend is at the root of the United States Administration's reluctance to act on the perception that a corrupt Aruban investigation is denying an American citizen the justice that she is entitled to under both the Dutch and American Justice System.

What do you think?

Janet

Good Morning Janet, actually it does not involve Chavez at this particular time. It could should it lead there, but right now it is not a Chavez issue.

This is internal to the US, but has many tentacles that stretch world wide.... and from what I have already found, it's truly astonishing. I'm not even looking very hard... it's just all coming to me. This seems too easy.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 11:39:09 AM »

Whip it on me Rob  lol
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2008, 11:41:05 AM »

SS, I'm making some progress already and not even looking very hard. It all seems to be right here in front of my face.

I could do this all on my own I think, but it might be better to let everyone have a shot and enjoy where it goes.

Does anyone want to take part? It's always more fun when we do things together anyway. I can get it started with my *theory* and then everyone can jump in and do the research they all love to do?

any takers?


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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2008, 11:42:33 AM »

Whip it on me Rob  lol

Hi Nut, I was wondering about you yesterday and glad to see you this morning...

give me a few minutes to type up my idea and then we can get the ball rolling... I think some may like what I have come up with already.

this idea hit me like a bolt of lighting last night and it was on my mind all night as I slept.
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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2008, 11:48:19 AM »

Oh Klaaaaas....EARTH QUAKE IN ST LOUIS!!!!

You probably wouldn't even consider it a real earth quake!! lol 5.2-5.4...but it woke me up at 4:30 this morning. I though my fridge was going to blow up...loud noise coming from my kitchen. My doggie and I went to check it out...loud noise was every dish rattling in my cupboard. It was wild!!! That was my 2nd!! Had one in Ohio when I was younger.


morning monkeys...long time no see...just doing a quick lookee this am....thought i would jump in! lou...a 5.4 along the new madrid is about equal to a 7.0 in california if my memory serves me! something about the rocky terrain in califronia absorbs the shocks better. the soil along the new madrid magnifies the shocks!
did not wake me up but i am a lot further from the site than you are! i bet it was scary tho!!!

not too bad...I had experienced one in Ohio...once I figured out it wasn't my fridge about to blow...hey it was 4:30am..lol...I guessed it was an earthquake. My little guy slept through the whole thing!!!

My daughter is in Evansville, IN.  She said it was strong there and went on for a long time.  I think the epicenter was about 30 miles from their home. My 3 year old grandson came running into his parents room and told them there was a monster in the house, he could feel him walking!  LOL   She said they just had a strong aftershock at 8:30 or so.
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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 11:50:07 AM »

Rob ... I am anticipating your take.  There has to be something behind the silence and lack of action by the American Administration on the Natalee Holloway case.  It appears on the surface to be an outright betrayal of one's own but ... maybe there is stuff going on behind the scenes.  Could it be that case needs to be "officially" declared a closed case prior to the FBI/Family pursuing legal avenues available that will allow the Aruban investigation to be investigated.

Anyways ... off for the day.  Family gathering from my side at our home on Sunday (celebrating March/April birthdays) ... lots to do.

Janet

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 12:13:47 PM »

SS, I'm making some progress already and not even looking very hard. It all seems to be right here in front of my face.

I could do this all on my own I think, but it might be better to let everyone have a shot and enjoy where it goes.

Does anyone want to take part? It's always more fun when we do things together anyway. I can get it started with my *theory* and then everyone can jump in and do the research they all love to do?

any takers?

Count me in Wink
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 12:30:34 PM »

Last night I was thinking about the BRICKS OF GOLD and it led to some areas I have wondered about in the past. Then I started to connect a few small dots and finally realized that the thoughts that have been on my mind for about two decades were finally coming to light. It was kind of a Eureka moment to quote Archimedes.

It all started in 1921 or 1922. I know, that's a very very long time ago. But this was when the intelligentsia of the world began to formulate their ideals for a one world government. It took some time for the ideas to circumvent the world and for the ideals to be established. No, this is not a one world government conspiracy theory. This is just based on what is commonly known.

This is also not to lay the blame at the feet of anyone administration, because in my view they are all complicit.

On October 24, 1945 the UN was formed to prevent the next Holocaust and to establish Israel as the homeland for the surviving Jews. This was the first step in the formulation of the next chapter of the human condition. I hope you are following me, because I am leaving some areas out to prevent everyone's eyes from glazing over. I'm just hitting some history to get the background established. We can fill in all the dates later.

As time went on the UN began to establish charters for up and coming countries and to help them establish a standard of living and a common overall interest in the human condition and to also elevate some parts of the human condition. In a sense to get everyone on the same page worldwide.

We can all argue whether or not that has been successful, but that's not the point of this exercise.

I am going to skip the 1950's, 60's and 70's to get to the point. We can fill this area in later.

In 1980 Ronald Reagan named George H.W. Bush as his Vice Presidential candidate. Why am I starting here? Because this is the beginning of where it all started in my opinion. We can also discuss whether or not this is the starting point when we establish our facts.

I remembered something that made a light bulb go off in my head. As much as I respect and admire Ronald Reagan, and he is my role model, I remembered that Reagan and Bush had quite the contemptuous campaign. And when the nomination was awarded, it was Reagan who held the nomination. What followed was the turning point in my opinion.

Here is where it all began.

Let's connect.

Reagan said there was no way he would ever have Bush on his ticket. He then reversed course and the following day named Bush as his running mate. Quite starling for a guy that didn't want Bush the day before. Most will remember that G.H.W. Bush was the former head of the CIA. Spook Central and they don't call these folks "Spooks" for nothing. There is a real reason.

G.H.W. Bush pulls the levers and switches for 8 years behind the scenes of the Reagan administration. Reagan runs foreign and domestic policy while Bush runs the clandestine network. G.H.W. Bush's father was Prescott Bush, who was elected a Senator from Connecticut in 1952.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html

G.H.W Bush - one world government  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g

Those are his own words.

-next-

During the 1980's the cocaine wars began. We all know that. And here's where it gets interesting.

The Cocaine had to come from somewhere, and that somewhere South America.

The "spook" network used a variety of agents to get the drugs from SA to America. Those drugs ended up on the streets of California and in the hands of the Bloods and Crips. And then all hell broke lose.

The drugs were imported to Mena Arkansas. Governor at the time was William Jefferson Clinton. Clinton is a One Worlder and a member of the Bilderbergers, and so is his wife. In fact, so is Newt Gingrich. These One Worlders are all over the political spectrum.

One drug runner was a man named Barry Seal. In this scheme, Barry Seal (IIRC) was a commercial pilot that was moving parking meters to South America and when he returned home he had the nose of the jet filled with Cocaine. The company that supplied the parking meters was called Park-on-Meter, or POM Inc. Based in Russellvile, AR.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/snowjob1.htm

I then only had to begin to wonder how Aruba connects to all of this and it was easy. Aruba's fingerprints are all over this cocaine transportation business.

I have already found that drugs and weapons were transported in and out of Aruba and to Mena Arkansas during this period.

I then began to wonder about Vince Foster, who magically committed suicide in Fort Marcy Park and then remembered he had gone to Switzerland with a suitcase full of money multiple times.

I than recalled that the Clinton Admin developed a software program called Carnivore which was then later renamed Project Echelon. This software was sold thru a CIA front company than sold the software to banks in South America. This software had a "back-Door" built in and it allowed the CIA to monitor banking transactions and look for drugs proceeds and transactions. The real purpose appears to see who the CIA's competitors were.

I then remembered that Betico Croes, the father of modern Aruba and the man responsible for Aruba's Separate Status, was killed in a car accident on Christmas eve 1986, coincidentally, Barry Seal was assassinated on February 19, 1986.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Seal

I know that Betico never saw his dream realized, and no wonder who killed Betico, as the killing could never be proven to be a conspriacy even though all events led to that belief.

I have more, but let's just start here, if that's ok...
 


 

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 12:36:57 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2008, 12:37:10 PM »

Klaas, could you place a [/i] after Eureka.. in my above post? that should remove the rest of the italics. TIA
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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2008, 12:41:22 PM »

Klaas...You've got mail 
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2008, 12:53:59 PM »

Does anyone know where Steve Cohen is originally from?

I am finding all kinds of stuff and wondering if he connects to someone I have already discovered with the same last name.
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2008, 12:56:19 PM »

Rob,

While waiting for your post, I guessed FBI and did some searching...found 80s info...here is one link....what I had focused on was FBI/DEA teaming up during that timeframe.  Nothing specific about Aruba, but surmise it's being in the pathways to the US mainland and others...

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/history/1980-1985.html
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2008, 12:58:44 PM »

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Me to!!!!   Peaches....welcome back!!!  You must be on a laptop Wink
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2008, 01:01:16 PM »

Here you can see how the Renee Gielen Camp send misinfo into this world messages:

on the nwo blog
One T previously ( 2 weeks ago )had a link rear of a movie to see what was in a petrol station.
I have seen this movie, and it was not Natalee

 now,today he writes this


Here the piece
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April 18th, 2008 at 13:09
The cassiere of the Valero gas station declared on July 9, 2005 that they Natalee on Tuesday, May 31 has seen. She was accompanied by a lichtgetinte boy appeared with a face, a flat nose and neatly curled dark hair. The boy went in front of the cassiere stand with arms on each other. She does not feel anxious or that she was under duress. The cassiere recognized her from the photo Wednesday, June 1 in the Diario of the missing American girl stood. The incident is not connected to the security camera recorded since the day before had been a brawl and the links were viewed. Unfortunately, it was then forgotten back on the record button.
The cassiere the boy twe a week later with other boys. He spoke fluent Spanish and accentloos. He wore a white shirt with EPI out.
Two weeks later, the boy looked back and the cassiere right in the eyes with a striking smile on his face again and walked away without saying anything.
(Joran van der Sloot The Case Natalee Holloway, pg. 204-205)

Cassiere of the Valero gas station has declared that says ie
Here you have an official document of T?
What can say that T stories up!

And writes ie behind to
   
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The cassiere was the second time that the Spanish-speaking boy they saw a nervous and confused impression because they had not thought the boy again to be seen. Hence likely that the boy two weeks later another demonstrative langskwam and immediately disappeared again ..
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2008, 01:05:17 PM »

Does anyone know where Steve Cohen is originally from?

I am finding all kinds of stuff and wondering if he connects to someone I have already discovered with the same last name.

http://www.dickrussell.org/articles/spookwar.htm
Spook Wars in Cyberspace
Is the FBI Railroading Charles Hayes?
High Times, June, 1997
by Dick Russell
Why does the international dope trade just keep flourishing, even while major traffickers and their government protectors keep getting exposed and imprisoned? Well, it could just possibly be that the ones going to jail aren't using the right computer software. Here's another murky peek into the legendary PROMIS conspiracy.

This is a story straight from a Tom Clancy novel, or maybe Mission: Impossible. Shortly before last November's election, Kentucky surplus- computer dealer, who claims to be a longtime CIA contract agent, gets arrested by an FBI SWAT team and is charged with hiring an undercover agent- to murder his own son.

At his trial in January, 61-year- old Charles Hayes testifies that he's been set up by the federal government. And why? Because he's part of a team of retired intelligence types calling themselves the "Fifth Column," who've been using a supercomputer to hack into certain secret foreign bank accounts used by numerous US politicians to stash illegal funds garnered mainly from drug and arms dealers.

The prosecution's key witness against Hayes, at the trial in London, KY, turns out to be a right-wing California journalist who occasionally informs for the FBI, a fugitive with a history of mental institutionalization. For the defense, a former senior editor at Forbes magazine vouches for Hayes' credibility. After the jury hears tapes of Hayes discussing a $5,000 payoff for a prospective hit on his estranged son, the defendant responds that he'd known all along he was talking to an FBI undercover, but had been stringing the Bureau along so he could develop evidence against them. When the CIA introduces affidavits disavowing any relationship with Hayes, he takes the stand to provide his cover name, "Charles Lawson," and an ID number.

Following three hours of deliberation, the jury finds Hayes guilty, to the astonishment of nearly 100 supporters present. He says from his jail cell afterwards, while his attorney moves for a new trial, that he anticipates "assistance" from higher powers.

Hayes Gets Around

Is Charles Hayes for real, or merely a con man looking for a get-out- of-jail-free card? For months prior to his arrest last year, revelations about Hayes and his postulated Fifth Column had been circulating on the Internet and in Media Bypass, a colorful "patriot" publication out of Evansville, IN. Not only was this Fifth Column said to have downloaded financial records on government officials from up to 3,000 hidden overseas accounts, but they also allegedly wire-transferred about $4 billion clear out of those accounts into "escrow holding funds" at Federal Reserve banks.

Then, according to Hayes, these alleged Robin Hoods of cyberspace began quietly announcing their findings to certain congress people and foreign governments; which is why, so the yet- undocumented saga brags, a record number of 60-some US senators and representatives announced their retirements just before the 1996 elections. And that also is supposedly how the Mexican federales got turned on to the drug-laundered millions salted away in Switzerland by the family of ex- President Carlos Salinas de Gortari.

On the face of it, these assertions might appear preposterous. But a HIGH TIMES investigation into Hayes' background reveals a tantalizing trail of evidence indicating, at the least, considerable insider knowledge about computers and smuggling.

In 1985, Charles Hayes was a key government witness in a Kentucky trial involving the largest gemstone seizure ever by US Customs-millions of dollars' worth that had been smuggled out of Brazil

In 1991, the telephone records of doomed journalist Danny Casolaro showed numerous phone calls to Hayes in the month before Casolaro was found dead in a West Virginia hotel room. Casolaro had spent the past several years investigating a tangled web of government corruption he called "the Octopus." One of Casolaro's focuses was the Inslaw case, in which the Justice Department stands accused of having stolen the company's PROMIS computer software, which was capable of tracking complicated financial transactions.

In 1992, Hayes testified about the Inslaw matter before a Chicago grand jury. In April '96, he was subpoenaed and gave a lengthy deposition about Inslaw to a Justice Department attorney, who quizzed him about his computer expertise. FBI Special Agent David Keller testified at Hayes' January trial that he knew of him from a previous FBI investigation into the Inslaw matter.

In July 1995, Rep. Jim Leach, chairman of the House Banking Committee, wrote to the director of the National Security Agency, seeking "your agency's help in verifying or laying to rest various allegations of money- laundering in Arkansas in the late 1980s." Among other matters, Rep. Leach asked about Inslaw's PROMIS software- and Charlie Hayes.

Several of Hayes' associates back up his contention that he's being framed, in an attempt to put the Fifth Column out of business. One well-placed source, who requested anonymity, affirms that Hayes was a CIA asset, adding, "I think Hayes has been set up to the nth degree to discredit him."

Mena and the Octopus

Hayes launched the five-member Fifth Column himself, he maintains to HIGH TIMES, primarily to follow the money-laundering of the international drug cartels. It's a personal crusade, according to one of his associates in Kentucky, triggered by the way Hayes' 37-year-old son, John-the alleged murder-for-hire target-supposedly "cooked his mind on drugs." Mark Swaney, whose Arkansas Committee was responsible for much of the early publicity surrounding the notorious CIA drugs-and-arms operation out of Mena, AK, (HighWitness News, Jan. 95) spoke with Hayes on a number of occasions between 1992 and '95: "A lot of what he told me about Mena turned out to be true," says Swaney.

Swaney's notes from a July '92 interview with Hayes contain charges that both the federal government and the Arkansas State Police were involved in distributing cocaine out of Mena. Asked if then-Governor Bill Clinton was aware of the Mena operation, Hayes responded, "No, but his associates were involved." He elaborated that some of the money was laundered through two powerful Arkansas companies with ties to Clinton.

In a five-hour jailhouse interview not long before his trial, Hayes, a former Air Force pilot, described a CIA assignment he'd once undertaken to fly a weapons shipment from Mena to Aruba in the Caribbean. On discovering that the cargo was actually cocaine, Hayes told me, he dumped it on the runway and ended up in a shoot-out that killed several people.

This is one of many stories, such as Hayes' claimed friendships with Fidel Castro and Sen. Edward Kennedy, that prove impossible to verify. But William Hamilton of St. Louis, the president of Inslaw, tells of encounters with Hayes which add credence to the existence of the Fifth Column. Hamilton first became aware of Hayes in 1990, in the midst of Inslaw's legal battle to prove that the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, NSA and other federal agencies had illegally appropriated their PROMIS database- management software for their own purposes.

As recounted in a heavily redacted House Judiciary Committee report, The Inslaw Affair (September 1992): "Mr. Hayes is a surplus computer dealer with alleged ties to both United States and foreign intelligence communities. Mr. Hayes first came to the attention of the Committee during August 1990, following assertions that excess Haris- Lanier word-processing equipment he had purchased from the US Attorney's office for the Eastem District of Kentucky, located in Lexington, contained the PROMIS software." The Justice Department had subsequently seized the equipment back from Hayes, preventing its use as evidence in the Inslaw case. (The computer gear had also allegedly contained sensitive classified material, such as the identities of narcotics informants.)

Hamilton therefore contacted Hayes, who told him the military owed Inslaw plenty of money, because it had secretly distributed his PROMIS software. When Hamilton subsequently learned from a CIA contact that PROMIS had indeed been used aboard US submarines, he visited Hayes in Kentucky in January '91. PROMIS was "in the CIA, DEA, FBI, everywhere," Hayes told him. Checking him out with other sources, Hamilton was told that Hayes and a partner both code- named "Running Fox" had belonged to an elite intelligence unit which "had to be able to take apart and put back together, without any diagrams, the Cray supercomputer."

According to Hayes, this elite spy unit was known as "Squad D." First mentioned in Bob Woodward's book Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA, 1981-1987, Squad D was established by William Casey, Ronald Reagan's CIA director. Part of its mission was computer hacking. "There was penetration of the international banking system," Woodward wrote, "allowing a steady flow of data from the real, secret sets of books kept by many foreign banks that showed some hidden investing by the Soviet Union."

And not just by the USSR. PROMIS- short for "Prosecutors' Management Information System"-had originally been designed to track complicated illegal currency transactions through intricate systems of laundering and wire- transfers; it could readily be "enhanced" to track transactions by banks and dummy corporations used by terrorists and dope dealers. Hamilton's Inslaw had sold PROMIS to the early Reagan Justice Department, which promptly reneged on a $6 million payment due, asserting that a portion of the contract was not fulfilled. Inslaw went bankrupt, and its ongoing lawsuit against the Feds is still in the US Court of Claims.

Promis Them Anything

Inslaw's attorneys, who include former Attorney General Elliott Richardson, present evidence that a covert intelligence operation in fact transformed PROMIS into an unprecedented high-tech spying tool. It seems a brilliant young CIA contract agent out of Seattle named Michael Riconosciuto, reputedly a past master at clandestine drug chemistry and computer hacking, not only "enhanced" the PROMIS package to implement its use in tracking international currency transfers, but fitted it with a secret "trap-door" access port that enabled US espionage agencies to electronically monitor its use by anyone who bought it.

According to Richardson, PROMIS was peddled to as many as 88 foreign governments by "cut-out" front men working for the Department of Justice, the NSA and CIA. It was also purchased by numerous international banks in Switzerland and elsewhere, which were interested in standardizing their wire- transfer data. None of these buyers knew about Riconosciuto's trap-door application that not only allowed Uncle Sam to monitor their money-laundering in progress, but, whenever desired, to invisibly modify it.

One of the "cut-out" peddlers of this stolen, hyped-up and poisoned money-tracking software took it to Brazil in the mid-'80s, according to Charles Hayes, who was there at the time, as a CIA contract agent, in the matter of the stolen gemstones. Dr. Earl Brian (convicted last year in Los Angeles of multimillion-dollar international financial fraud) had been California Secretary of Health during Reagan's govenorship in the '70s. Michael Riconosciuto has alleged that some time after 1979, Brian was given the PROMIS software to peddle around the world to line his personal pockets. It was during a sales trip to Brazil in 1985 that Dr. Brian allegedly told Hayes about PROMIS.

Shortly after this Brazil adventure, Hayes moved back to his hometown of Nancy, KY, and, as his CIA cover, set up a salvage company specializing in computer parts-and also began working with Riconosciuto. The Fifth Column's Cray Model 3B supercomputer was primarily constructed, it is said, through purchases at Department of Defense auctions.

Initially, Hayes' Fifth Column's work had been done under government sponsorship. Veteran investigative journalist James Norman has written that besides penetrating the international banking system, the Column had initially succeeded in downloading information from over 50 intelligence services around the globe, including the Soviet KGB and the Israeli Mossad.

Then Riconosciuto got busted for running a methamphetamine lab in 1992, and wound up in the federal penitentiary, where he currently resides. Around the same time, Hayes' team discovered that the codes in the PROMIS software featured not just one, but two trap-door ports, suggesting that Riconosciuto had planned to use one of these himself, possibly to raid accounts in banks using PROMIS.

Hayes says the Column shut down Riconosciuto's port and created their own multiple setup, by which through a modem they could dial into a computer's security systems and circumvent them with a few keystrokes. Then Hayes further customized the software to sort through vast amounts of data; using a Cray, the Column could handle astounding data rates, which could be quickly downloaded and analyzed off- line in search of money flows and other connections. (In the virtual-reality realm, "money" is merely stored information; with the proper authorization codes, computers can electronically launch volumes of digitized currency from one bank account to another.)

Charging that the CIA "didn't hold up their end" of some unspecified bargain, Hayes says that he and the other four Fifth Columnists decided to go rogue. Having sole access to their own software modifications, they were now essentially creating their own private currency tracking enterprise.

Plundering The Pirates

Secret "numbered" accounts in Swiss banks, according to Hayes, are not actually numbered but lettered, with codes which appear on the lower right-hand side of their documents; using tracking software and a sufficiently powerful computer, they are not difficult to penetrate. Hayes says the Column uncovered a $1.5 million bribe paid by the Cali cartel to a witness against former Panama dictator Manuel Noriega who was subsequently convicted in Florida of narcotics crimes the cartel may actually have committed. Then after the Column in 1994 examined the secret accounts of the Salinas family in Europe, he says they passed the incriminating data to the DEA-which promptly alerted the Mexican government.

"On an official basis," says former Wharton School finance professor and money-laundering expert Orlin Grabbe, a friend of Hayes, "people associated with the Fifth Column had tried to take their evidence to the appropriate legislative committees and the Justice Department-and ran into a sea of corruption. So they decided to show them, 'We'll do our job anyway, even if it's in a different form.' "

Others are more skeptical. One well-placed HIGH TIMES source who requested anonymity says he believes Hayes and his associates may indeed have accessed foreign accounts, but may also have kept considerable sums for themselves rather than just transferring money to Federal Reserve accounts.

The Fifth Column first surfaced publicly in 1995, after James Norman, then a senior editor at Forbes, was alerted by Inslaw's Bill Hamilton to Hayes. Having broken a cover story on Iraqi arms-money laundering through oil markets, Norman was tipped by Hamilton to the PROMIS case: "Hamilton said that, as crazy as the things Hayes said seemed to be, they invariably had a way of proving true six months later," Norman recalls.

So Norman, who describes himself as a Liberal Democrat, visited Hayes at the Beckett Hotel in Nancy, where they spent an evening comparing notes. Hayes was interested in connections Norman had already discovered involving the PROMIS software, the NSA and a Little Rock bank-data-processing company then called Systematics (since absorbed by Alltell Information Services). Controlled by Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens, Systematics, according to Norman's sources, shuffled money for covert CIA and NSA spying operations, and was also involved in a massive bank-spying effort called "Follow The Money."

Sources also alleged a link to Vincent Foster, the White House deputy counsel whose death on July 20, 1993 was officially labeled a suicide. Foster was said to be a behind-the- scenes overseer for Systematics on behalf of the NSA, even while he was a partner with Hillary Clinton at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. (Alltell's chairman, Joe Ford, has denied any connection between Systematics and Vincent Foster.)

"Along about midnight," Norman remembers, "Hayes dropped this bombshel1 on me: 'You know, Vince was under investigation when he died.' I said, 'What investigation?' And Hayes, in his inimitable way, took a long drag on his cigarette, leaned back in his swivel chair, and said, 'Well, it's es- pie-oh-nage.' "

Hayes was only the first of more than a dozen sources that Norman eventually uncovered in reporting his "Fostergate" story-for Media Bypass, after Forbes backed away from publishing it. Initially Hayes did not tell Norman about the Fifth Column, which he learned of from another source. But the article was the first published reference to the Column, which had been monitoring Foster's Swiss bank account.

"They had located it," Norman wrote, "by tracking money flows from various Israeli government accounts, after finding Foster's name while secretly snooping through the electronic files of Israel's Mossad."

Foster, who was said to have had access to highly sensitive US code- encryption and data-security information, allegedly was peddling some of it to the Israelis. Norman continued: "Foster's first indication of trouble came when he inquired about his coded bank account at Banca Della Svizzera Italiana in Chiasso, Switzerland, and found the account empty. Foster was shocked to learn from the bank that someone using his secret authorization code had withdrawn all $2.75 million he had stashed there, and had moved it to, of all places, the US Treasury."

In April 1995, Norman sent a letter to White House press secretary Michael McCurry concerning his article, then slated to appear in that May's issue of Forbes. Among the allegations it spelled out were Foster's having learned from Hillary Clinton, shortly before his death, that he was under investigation by the CIA; that the President's wife was also a beneficiary of funds from Foster's Swiss account; that documents relating to the Systematics company had been removed from his office after his death, and that Systematics was also involved in laundering funds from covert operations, "including drug and arms sales related to activities in and around Mena."

A week later, the White House responded that these allegations were "outrageous" and "baseless." Forbes, at the last minute, killed Norman's story, and so it appeared in the August 1995 issue of Media Bypass. Norman was keeping in touch with Hayes, digging up new information and consulting him for leads.

From another source, months earlier, Norman had acquired some account numbers that had been found among the personal effects of Barry Seal , a cocaine-smuggling CIA asset who'd worked out of the Mena airport, and was murdered by Colombian hitmen in Baton Rouge in 1986. (See HighWitness News, Jun. '86). "In a suitcase in the trunk of Seal's car was a scrap of paper," says Norman, "with a curious string of ten letters. One source who'd been involved in money-laundering in the past was quite confident it was a Swiss bank-account number in encrypted form." Norman passed it-KPFBMMBODB along to Charles Hayes.

It was not long thereafter that Norman was informed that his "Fostergate" story was being abruptly spiked, on orders from the very top: Forbes publisher emeritus Caspar Weinberger, Secretary of Defense under Reagan. Weinberger's motivation was a mystery to Norman until he subsequently learned, from Hayes, that the encrypted number from Barry Seal's effects had led to the Union Bank of Switzerland, and to none other than Caspar Weinberger. The Fifth Column had supposedly raided $2.3 million from that very account, and then left a note in Weinberger's drop- box in Bar Harbor, ME, listing the number and a message: "You have been had."

In August 1995, Norman sent Forbes editor Jim Michaels a memo with further corroboration for his Fostergate piece, including evidence emerging from credit- card and airline frequent flier records indicating that Foster had made periodic one-day trips to Switzerland. Then Norman dropped his bomb on Forbes: "If you have any doubts about the ability of the CIA's Fifth Column to raid foreign bank accounts and withdraw funds, just ask Caspar Weinberger." Enclosing a copy of documents found in Seal's trunk, he added: "The clear implication is that Caspar Weinberger, while Secretary of Defense, was taking kickbacks on drug and arms sales. A cosignatory on this account appears to be connected with [a relative of] Howard Metzenbaum, the retired senator from Ohio. We are talking about bipartisan payola. Which helps explain why Congress is so squeamish about investigating this stuff."

After sending his internal memo, Norman was told to go on indefinite unpaid leave or to resign. As Fortune noted in an article about its rival's imbroglio that fall, "The embarrassing memo was particularly ill-timed. Malcolm S. 'Steve' Forbes Jr., the magazine's 48-year-old editor-in chief, is readying a campaign to run for President on the GOP ticket." Fortune's photo of Norman was captioned: "Ex- reporter Norman's startling sleuthing proved a little too gutsy."

Putting A Stop To It

Days later, the now-unemployed Norman met with Hayes in Pittsburgh, along with Orlin Grabbe of Reno, NV, who had started examining the Foster saga in a lengthy series on his World Wide Web page (http://www.aci.net/kalliste). "Hayes made some astounding predictions," Norman recalls about pending unprecedented departures of members of Congress and the Senate. I pooh-poohed the whole thing as ridiculous. He said, 'Wait and see.' " The Fifth Column, Hayes claimed, was sending plain brown envelopes to politicians containing copies of their illicit accounts in Switzerland and offshore banks in places like the Cayman Islands. By early 1996, Hayes' outlandish prognostications indeed seemed to becoming true, as dozens of prominent senators and representatives announced their retirements.

Norman says, "He would make allusions to some geographical area or other way of describing people other than by name, who invariably would announce they weren't going to run again. It became almost like pin-the- tail-on-the-donkey." As his findings continued to appear in Media Bypass, Norman began getting calls from other mysterious sources, who he now believes were government disinformation artists "looking for stuff on Hayes."

Both Norman and Grabbe speak of repeated attempts being made on Hayes' life, including the sabotage of his car's brakes on an occasion when all three were riding in it near Pittsburgh. Grabbe's Web page alleges that one hit plot emanated from Arkansas, farmed out through a New Orleans crime syndicate which contracted with a pair of ex-CIA assassins.

There would certainly appear to be plenty of people with reason to want Hayes and the Fifth Column put into permanent dry-dock. Hayes delights in telling a story in which the Column wire-transferred millions of dollars into the US Treasury out of secret Swiss accounts held by Nancy Reagan, Henry Kissinger and Oliver North , and then proceeded to play them off against one another. This happened, Hayes says, back when North was the front-runner in the polls for a Senate seat from Virginia, which he lost after Nancy got an anonymous call telling her North "had given out her unlisted account number and they got hers and Henry's money." (North's use of secret Swiss accounts in the Iran- Contra affair is notorious.)

Hayes maintains that the Fifth Column has been a leading source for Whitewater investigator Kenneth Starr, having even downloaded "the entire White House database"-with plenty of ammunition that's yet to surface concerning FBI files provided to the Clinton Administration and contributions to Democratic campaigns.

In June last year, just as the Column's purported activities emerged, then-CIA director John Deutsch announced plans to create a "cyberwar center" to protect the nation against the growing security threat posed by computer hackers. Attacks on international wire transfers, he told the Senate, were of special concern. (As to why the banks don't just change their PROMIS software, Hayes says it's not that easy to do. Besides, he claims, the banks have been informed that if they try to do that, their competitors will receive a printout listing all their illicit moneys.)

Then last September, some 16 FBI and Secret Service agents in four cars showed up in Nancy, asking questions about Hayes.Some say they were also searching for the Column's Cray supercomputer, said to have been installed in the back of a 48-foot tractor-trailer complete with backup power supply.

And on October 22, just before a meeting Hayes had arranged with some oil-company executives in the Mellon Bank case, the FBI busted him at his residence on the murder-for-hire charge. It was no secret that Hayes and his son, John Anthony, were involved in an $800,000 court property fight over Hayes' mother's will. But after Charles' arrest, John Anthony Hayes assured a local newspaper that if his dad had really wanted him out of the way, he'd have handled it himself.

Denied bond in federal court nevertheless, Hayes was remanded to the Laurel County Detention Center to await trial. Also denied the right to act as his own counsel, he hired charismatic Lexington attorney Gatewood Galbraith.

The January trial was, to say the least, bizarre. The star prosecution witness, Lawrence W. Myers, had interviewed Hayes for a magazine article last August, and then called the FBI office in Birmingham, AL, to report that Hayes was looking to have someone killed. FBI agent Don Yarborough, posing as a would-be hit man, contacted Hayes, who spoke with him about the prospective murder over an open phone line, and used his own return address on a packet of documents he sent to this make-believe assassin. The phone tapes revealed Hayes offering to provide $5,000, seven days after his son's proposed murder, at "the best place to meet-a funeral office." In his testimony, Hayes said he "figured the government was getting ready to set up something, so I thought it would be a good time to reverse it on 'em... I figured I would be able to get them caught in a trap."

Hayes had been on CIA contract since age 19, he stated under oath. The Fifth Column had "split off" from Bill Casey's Squad D to "champion a lot of peoples' rights." Asked by Galbraith to name names of politicians forced to resign because of the Column's findings, Hayes singled out former Maine senator William Cohen (recently named Secretary of Defense) and Colorado senator Pat Schroeder. (No direct evidence has been produced concerning either of Hayes' courtroom allegations.) When he began describing how Vince Foster "had been relieved of a bank account in Bern, Switzerland," the judge ruled that such detail "must be shown to be necessary" to the defense; Foster's name was not mentioned again.

At the end of the trial's fourth day, new information surfaced concerning Lawrence Myers' background. In 1985, he had been charged with extortion and spent a year in a psychiatric facility; a felony warrant for him remained active in California. It also came out that he had been sharing information on several cases with the FBI, which had doctored "rap sheets" to hide his background.

The judge granted a two-week continuance, but after the trial resumed on January 27, refused to allow most of the damaging information about Myers into evidence. [Kennetta] Williamson, an investigator for the Tennessee attorney general's office, described him in testimony as "a professional and pathological liar." Reporter Norman testified that his investigation confirmed that Hayes "had a long relationship with the CIA as a contract agent"-which was denied in three CIA affidavits later introduced by the prosecution. That was when Hayes took the stand to reveal his alias and contract number.

But the jury believed the tapes incriminated Hayes. "The main thing I can't understand," said one juror after the guilty verdict, "is how he thought he could entrap the government."

Marvin Miller, a prominent Washington criminal-defense attorney with years of experience in espionage cases, is drafting a motion for a new trial. "We believe there are significant errors that occurred at the trial," he says. "The jury simply was not allowed to hear a number of things that could have reasonably changed their decision."

Awaiting his May sentencing, Hayes says from his cell: "Hey, I love my government. They trained me well. And the Fifth Column ain't out of business yet."

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Klaas...You've got mail 

Not at my hotmail acct.  I'm going to be running out for a bit so I may not get to it for a couple hours.
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2008, 01:09:00 PM »

Rob,

While waiting for your post, I guessed FBI and did some searching...found 80s info...here is one link....what I had focused on was FBI/DEA teaming up during that timeframe.  Nothing specific about Aruba, but surmise it's being in the pathways to the US mainland and others...

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/history/1980-1985.html

Hi Ya 2NJ, that's the point, they do know all of this because it is commonly know to them... I am trying to show why there is no interdiction on the part of the US government. And why the MEP possibly has been able to hold them at bay.

If the US gets too deeply involved, the MEP could blow the lid of the drug and weapons operations. That's the motive.
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mark on February 18th, 2008 6:25 am

Would you want to friends with Clintons?

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill & Hillary Clinton’s:

James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement, shortly after medical check. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide, bullet never found, car was clean.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a 45 caliber gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser - Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancée.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Stabbed 113 times in Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

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Nov 12,  2007
by Daniel Hopsicker

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The EU investigation reportedly logged 794 flights by the Gulfstream between November 17, 2001 and December 25, 2005.   It flew in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Italy, France, Czech Republic, Iceland and Ireland, the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Barbados, Jamaica, Virgin Islands, Guadeloupe Islands and St. Kitts and Nevis, Barbados, Aruba, Santo Tomás, the Bahamas, Santa Lucia, Hawaii, Bermuda and Cancún.

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In coming days the MadCowMorningNews will release the results of our investigation into the people responsible for these two drug smuggling American-registered aircraft, who are members of a network which we will trace all the way back to Barry Seal, in an unbroken succession of officially-sanctioned American Drug Lords, who snort with derision at the concept of Equal Justice Under Law.

In all modesty, some of what we've discovered should have long been obvious to even the meanest of intelligences.

Lucky for us, we've got a mean intelligence.
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