Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 - 4/24/08

[Pita]

Consider that the Kalpoe's stepfather is now owner of the cyber cafe ... maybe Aruba afforded him some other goodies in exchange for cooperation in the Natalee Holloway case.

Caps ... could you please provide the source of this info.  It should be public record.

Janet

Kalpoe's stepdad is no longer the owner of the Cyber Cafe last I checked.  I was of the belief that it was Kawish Misers's uncle that owned the Indo and VIP.  For Caps to be correct then Kawish's uncle would be the K2's real father.  Possible, but I need more info before I believe it.

Cancelled 3/9/2007

Thanks Klaas.  However ... I am referring to Caps contention that Deepak's stepfather is owner of the Lions Den and the Indo ...

There must be similar records to the above for confirmation.

Janet

From a prior conversation with Kawish Misier, he admits Janira, who owns the VIP, is his aunt.





http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=475.160

Thank you Pita.  Who is Janira?  Deepak and Satish's mother is named Nadira.

Janet

Kawish told me, Karam, the spiritual healer Dave met with his sister at the VIP, is his uncle and Janira is his wife.

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that. 

[Tamikosmom]

I find the date that the Kalpoe's stepfather took possession of the Internet Cafe very suspicion.

However ... when it is considered the Deepak was assistant manager ... maybe the Ramirez would have already had a vested interest.

Janet

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CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ

Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Date of commencement 29 AUGUST 2005

OWNERS/PARTNERS
RAMIREZ, LUIS ANTONIO;
Residing in HOOIBERG 91-B, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 2 MAY 1960
Nationality DUTCH
Position OWNER
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

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http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/archive/b/carnivorous_conservative/2005/10/aruba_research.html

It is suspicious.  We had the records from before Deepak's stepfather....some Dutch guy S....?  I always thought it would be interesting to know why he got out of the business..

CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ 
Date of commencement  15 DECEMBER 2004 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 29 AUGUST 2005 
  
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
HICKINSON, LLOYD SELWYN; 
Residing in  SEROE BLANCO 75, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 14 FEBRUARY 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  15 DECEMBER 2004 
Authority  FULL 
  
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
Effective  15 DECEMBER 2004 
Authority  FULL 

Now there is some mistake here.

Check the date of Commencement. How can the date be diffrent

is this fake or what?

Caps ... I could be wrong but ... I believe the implication of the above is that Angelian Ponson-Reppas and Lloyd Selwyn Hickinson took possession of the Internet Cafe on December 15, 2004 and ... then relingished owner ship to Luis Antonio Ramirez (Kalpoe's stepfather) on August 29, 2005.

Commencement implies "beginning".

Janet

[Pita]

Caps ... I could be wrong but ... I believe the implication of the above is that Angelian Ponson-Reppas and Lloyd Selwyn Hickinson took possession of the Internet Cafe on December 15, 2004 and ... then relingished owner ship to Luis Antonio Ramirez (Kalpoe's stepfather) on August 29, 2005.

Commencement implies "beginning".

Janet

Janet, that's the way I read it too.

[Lala'sMom]

Is Bouwman a common name there, Caps?


Birmingham News

Police arrested a teen Thursday who spent time with Natalee Holloway during her visit here and may have been one of the last people to see her before she disappeared.

Police detained Joren van der Sloot, 17, after a 6 a.m. raid of his home in the town of Montana. They also arrested two brothers, Depak, 17, and Datish Kalpoe, 18, in the town of Hooiberg.

Attorney General Karin Janssen would not specify what charges the three could face.

…

Deputy Police Chief Jan van der Straten said Holloway met van der Sloot in the casino attached to her hotel two days before she disappeared. Family friends say Holloway knew that van der Sloot had spent much of the week playing cards in the casino with a group of boys from the trip.

Employees at the Holiday Inn casino said van der Sloot and the Kalpoes were part of a group of young regulars at the poker tables. They also said teens from the Mountain Brook group visited often during their five-day trip, playing cards with the local boys and drinking heavily, sometimes before noon.

Brenda Bouwman, marketing manager for the casino, said everybody who worked there knew the Mountain Brook teenagers “because they were partying and they were loud.” She said Holloway was seen with a group at the blackjack tables on Sunday, May 29, although she did not think the girl was gambling.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/index.php?s=bounch

wow!  Seeing this made me have one of those ah hah! type moments...need to think on this more..but gives me pause about Shango...hmmmmm. Thanks.

[CapsLockWizard]

I find the date that the Kalpoe's stepfather took possession of the Internet Cafe very suspicion.

However ... when it is considered the Deepak was assistant manager ... maybe the Ramirez would have already had a vested interest.

Janet

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CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ

Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Date of commencement 29 AUGUST 2005

OWNERS/PARTNERS
RAMIREZ, LUIS ANTONIO;
Residing in HOOIBERG 91-B, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 2 MAY 1960
Nationality DUTCH
Position OWNER
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

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http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/archive/b/carnivorous_conservative/2005/10/aruba_research.html

It is suspicious.  We had the records from before Deepak's stepfather....some Dutch guy S....?  I always thought it would be interesting to know why he got out of the business..

CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ 
Date of commencement  15 DECEMBER 2004 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 29 AUGUST 2005 
  
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
HICKINSON, LLOYD SELWYN; 
Residing in  SEROE BLANCO 75, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 14 FEBRUARY 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  15 DECEMBER 2004 
Authority  FULL 
  
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
Effective  15 DECEMBER 2004 
Authority  FULL 

Now there is some mistake here.

Check the date of Commencement. How can the date be diffrent

is this fake or what?

Caps ... I could be wrong but ... I believe the implication of the above is that Angelian Ponson-Reppas and Lloyd Selwyn Hickinson took possession of the Internet Cafe on December 15, 2004 and ... then relingished owner ship to Luis Antonio Ramirez (Kalpoe's stepfather) on August 29, 2005.

Commencement implies "beginning".

Janet

anyone can check INEX N.V , These was the business of Giovanny Ponson and when Angelina come in to the Picture, things started to change.

Anyone could also check the Van Straten son..

we are starting to climb the walls now.

[MumInOhio]

Because it is what I do….I googled!

First address from Caps list…

Beth's book is doomed
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[Tamikosmom]

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that. 
 

My mistake.  It was Lala'sMom.

Janet

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What I really want to know is why didn't any of you super duper intelligent monkeys out there know that the Kalpoes father/step father owned that Indo Restaurant and the Lions Den next door?  How on earth did that get past all of us?  Then again...maybe it is just me that didn't know this until this week. 

HUH?  I thought it was Kawish's uncle that owned them?  I'm behind a bit but where did Caps say the Kalpoe dad/stepdad owned it?  I think Caps may be wrong about that.

[vms]

Brenda Bouwman:

BB ADVERTISING & PROMOTION
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=19384

[Lala'sMom]

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that.
 

My mistake.  It was Lala'sMom.

Janet

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What I really want to know is why didn't any of you super duper intelligent monkeys out there know that the Kalpoes father/step father owned that Indo Restaurant and the Lions Den next door?  How on earth did that get past all of us?  Then again...maybe it is just me that didn't know this until this week. 

HUH?  I thought it was Kawish's uncle that owned them?  I'm behind a bit but where did Caps say the Kalpoe dad/stepdad owned it?  I think Caps may be wrong about that.

No. Caps said that the Indo was owned by the Kalpoes father...I asked if it was the step father...Caps did say that.

[Observer]

Some of the Simian posts sure seem to refer to palaces and black robes/garments.  Also refers to gold. 

[Lala'sMom]

Some of the Simian posts sure seem to refer to palaces and black robes/garments.  Also refers to gold. 

Please!!!  It is not Simian or Shango......

Shango and Simian talk about palaces...Merian about black togas. 

Shango talks about gold bricks....


Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: Ingrown nails and bruised
toes hiding under black togas....
Look for counsels tomorrow getting off on tainted stories and rotten reputations.

Phones hacked by the babylonian hand. 112 pieces of the puzzle that don't fit.

The well is full of technicalities. Do not be surprised. Merian has been right before.

Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: Know the passage...
Read with care. Forked tongues with framed reputations on their walls. Crawling in the
palace looking for trapdoors and cracks in the floor.

Do not be surprised. Only the package from The Hague holds the thin layers of answers.
Never has mail been so late.

[/i]

[CapsLockWizard]

Some of the Simian posts sure seem to refer to palaces and black robes/garments.  Also refers to gold. 

It is true, it is because the big fish is being protected not to tarnish his lenage.. now let look at all the lawyers.. let start who are the defenders. the players can not be outsiders, but insider for the checkmate to fit.

now it must be a layers kid in who can not tarnish his immage and the famaly image.

or a brother of a Layer. that can not tarnish the famaly image.

Still need to check the Van Straaten Kid.

[MumInOhio]

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that.
 

My mistake.  It was Lala'sMom.

Janet

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What I really want to know is why didn't any of you super duper intelligent monkeys out there know that the Kalpoes father/step father owned that Indo Restaurant and the Lions Den next door?  How on earth did that get past all of us?  Then again...maybe it is just me that didn't know this until this week. 

HUH?  I thought it was Kawish's uncle that owned them?  I'm behind a bit but where did Caps say the Kalpoe dad/stepdad owned it?  I think Caps may be wrong about that.

No. Caps said that the Indo was owned by the Kalpoes father...I asked if it was the step father...Caps did say that.

Did I miss it, did Caps clarify? Was it Luis or the father? TIA

[Tamikosmom]

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that.
 

My mistake.  It was Lala'sMom.

Janet

++++++++

What I really want to know is why didn't any of you super duper intelligent monkeys out there know that the Kalpoes father/step father owned that Indo Restaurant and the Lions Den next door?  How on earth did that get past all of us?  Then again...maybe it is just me that didn't know this until this week. 

HUH?  I thought it was Kawish's uncle that owned them?  I'm behind a bit but where did Caps say the Kalpoe dad/stepdad owned it?  I think Caps may be wrong about that.

No. Caps said that the Indo was owned by the Kalpoes father...I asked if it was the step father...Caps did say that.

 

Lala'sMom ... I thought that Caps words were behind your post when I considered Klaas' response.  However ... when Pita said the Caps did not imply that the Lions Den and Indo Restaurant were owned by the Kalpoe's mother and stepfather ... I thought that I must have misunderstood.

Maybe Caps could clear this up.

Janet

[Observer]

From Bon Dia..Another big drug bust and 2 articles about Maiky Farro and Minister Wever.

[Lala'sMom]

Pita ... has any of Kawish's words ever implied that the Kalpoe's mother or stepfather were owners of the Lion's Den or the Indo ...

I believe that this is what Caps implied.  I would appreciate some backup.

Thanks you Pita

Janet

No, his words never implied that.
 

My mistake.  It was Lala'sMom.

Janet

++++++++

What I really want to know is why didn't any of you super duper intelligent monkeys out there know that the Kalpoes father/step father owned that Indo Restaurant and the Lions Den next door?  How on earth did that get past all of us?  Then again...maybe it is just me that didn't know this until this week. 

HUH?  I thought it was Kawish's uncle that owned them?  I'm behind a bit but where did Caps say the Kalpoe dad/stepdad owned it?  I think Caps may be wrong about that.

No. Caps said that the Indo was owned by the Kalpoes father...I asked if it was the step father...Caps did say that.

Did I miss it, did Caps clarify? Was it Luis or the father? TIA

The jury is still out, Mum....sorry.

[Lala'sMom]

Unless I am hallucinating and that could be possible...this is what Caps said about the Indo:


CapsLockWizard

Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
« Reply #269 on: Today at 02:46:54 PM »
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The Father of Kalpoes still today own the VIP and the Indu Restaurant. THe Kalpoes still today are fighting their living and working permit to stay in Aruba.

The operation of Matty Apartments has change from night hours to day hours now. it closes now every night at 11:00 PM at ther the restaurnat and the VIP closes.

Some person in the Escord bussiness like Beto and Nino said that they are not in the bussiness of young teens, They said that there are some that are working from the beach area and advertise in the News but that they not legal as registed at the chamber of commerce. He suggest to find old 2005 News ads. They both have there own girls which are from Latin America.

Those that concentrate on the Americans are in side the Hotels self and promote this from within the Hotel chains.

More on this later

[CapsLockWizard]

let get to the botton of this

in 2004 or it was in 2005 but not shure the exact date.

a Hindu Famaly killed the working maid. it was in the news paper. find that news and we find the mother of kalpoes.

the affair did hit the news.

and there you will find also the father. I do not have this info and library closed with strike and no archive to search.

The killer went to Jail. but was release shortly.

Find this news and we can clarified the who is who.

CAPS

[Lala'sMom]

let get to the botton of this

in 2004 or it was in 2005 but not shure the exact date.

a Hindu Famaly killed the working maid. it was in the news paper. find that news and we find the mother of kalpoes.

the affair did hit the news.

and there you will find also the father. I do not have this info and library closed with strike and no archive to search.

The killer went to Jail. but was release shortly.

Find this news and we can clarified the who is who.

CAPS

Caps are you talking about the step father or the real father of the Kalpoes?  Please explain that to me...I am confused.

[Observer]

I keep hoping one of these so called psychics is right about something. Interesting if nothing else.



Hello, i am a trained psychic, i have focused on the person and my mind tells me she will be located on the northern tip of the island in a white house with a blue roof. The house is mounted on stilts and constructed of wood panels. Try and relate the number 56, proably a house number or street number. You must understand however, that psychic observations may be subject to errors but this is all that i can do to help. May God protect her.

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