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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24/08 - 5/02/08  (Read 154310 times)
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2008, 10:58:44 AM »

That smirk of Joran's makes my blood boil!  Mad

I'm familiar with the sensation. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2008, 10:58:50 AM »

her job is :
 sociaal pedagogisch hulpverlener in de psychiatrie

  social educational counsellor in psychiatry

Ah, so she didn't take the picture, LOL    Does she work at Den Dolder?

ha ha klaas i have to go back to den dolder this evening !!
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2008, 10:59:29 AM »

I fixed it



Rob - ROFLMAO 
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2008, 11:01:00 AM »

in my new outfit !
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2008, 11:02:05 AM »

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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2008, 11:03:02 AM »

her job is :
 sociaal pedagogisch hulpverlener in de psychiatrie

  social educational counsellor in psychiatry

Ah, so she didn't take the picture, LOL    Does she work at Den Dolder?

ha ha klaas i have to go back to den dolder this evening !!

I'll give you 100 dollars if you check yourself in for the night. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2008, 11:04:17 AM »

That smirk of Joran's makes my blood boil!  Mad

I'm familiar with the sensation. 

Hi Peaches, I'm very happy to see you are doing so well and feeling better.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2008, 11:06:56 AM »

According to the following chat ... Mart and Joran have never met.  Who is the blond man in the image taken in Thailand?

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Quote from: GBMW on April 23, 2008, 07:44:30 AM

Here are the chats we got on camera (the interview doesn't give extra info except the fact it seems Joran has another debt in a casino (Hong Kong)...)….the translations are loose because Joran uses slang a bit so I’ve interpreted the meaning sometimes because otherwise, with a literal translation, it wouldn’t make sense.

??? mean I couldn’t read it so words / sentences are missing

Joran:
Hey man how’s it going?
I will pay you back, next month, I promise

Another:
Yeah look, what I’ve done is not ok but I had no other choice and by putting it online you’ve put me in danger.
Are you on several blogs? Because I’ve heard it from several people. So you don’t keep things between us a secret. And I believed you.

Martin:

I’m really sorry & I won’t do it again. Whatever happens. You told me I was your only FRIEND and I would like to keep it that way. I want to stay your friend….that we can fix things between us…you and me.

Nooo man, I only posted a message on your Hyves..certainly not on the internet / blogs or whatever. I’ve never talked to anyone about anything. I have no….???

Joran:

I hope so man
I would like to stay friends, really, but I do have stories my friend
They were in my room with guns and everything
I felt awful
Now everybody is finally gone…I’m 100% safe now
And I’ve got my passport back

Martin:
I hope Joran, that we can stay friends….I never judged you or asked you questions about Natalee…???? I hope our problems can be solved and we can start over just like in the beginning. The whole world is angry with you and I won’t partipate in that…You know that buddy!

Joran:

Yes I know, and I believed you….I can understand you were angry with me but you’ve said some nasty things about me.

Martin:

I know and I’m really sorry. I wasn’t myself and I’m really sorry. Can you forgive me? I’m really sorry.

Joran:
Of course I can forgive you.
Can you forgive me?


Chatsession 20-04-2008

Joran:
Hey dude

Martin:
Hello

Joran:
How’s it going?

Martin:
Well, not that good, swa

Joran:
Tell me, what’s wrong

Yeah, sorry man, but had no choice…had to pay those people off otherwise I was screwed…I will pay you back as soon as I’ve got the money

Martin:
I feel used. I thought I had a good friend who I could trust for a 100%.

Really Joran? You will pay back everything? A promise made from one friend to another?

Joran:
Yes, I still look at you as a friend.

There was a gun pointed at me so I didn’t think ???

I would still like to meet you if that’s possible.
But I will understand if you don’t want to.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg376393#msg376393

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2008, 11:09:57 AM »

Wreck 

Ned Beatty:



Mart:



I love Ned Beatty!!!   That other guy isn't nearly as good looking as Ned.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2008, 11:10:30 AM »

this is hilde :



she took that pic  1 1/2 week ago and  now she is  back in Holland

she call me back in about 2 hours
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2008, 11:12:17 AM »

this is hilde :



she took that pic  1 1/2 week ago and  now she is  back in Holland

she call me back in about 2 hours

Excellent!  Thanks Johan!
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2008, 11:13:59 AM »

So if Hilde took that photo about a week and 1/2 ago it could have been taken on the weekend of April 12-13.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2008, 11:16:58 AM »

Observation:

Orange is a very difficult color to wear and look good in, Hilde is an exception.   
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2008, 11:17:34 AM »

her job is :
 sociaal pedagogisch hulpverlener in de psychiatrie

  social educational counsellor in psychiatry

Ah, so she didn't take the picture, LOL    Does she work at Den Dolder?

ha ha klaas i have to go back to den dolder this evening !!

Please remind me who that other handsome fellow is in those pictures?  Thank you.
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2008, 11:17:50 AM »

is she martin's daughter ?

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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2008, 11:19:59 AM »

Observation:

Orange is a very difficult color to wear and look good in, Hilde is an exception.   

because she is dutch maybe   
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2008, 11:23:59 AM »

is this guy 20 ?
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2008, 11:24:08 AM »

Observation:

Orange is a very difficult color to wear and look good in, Hilde is an exception.   

because she is dutch maybe   

Maybe, but more likely due to her skin coloring.  Put the same color on Julia Renfro (American) or Mart (Dutch) and the result would be different 

Of course IMO nothing can help Renfro's appearance since she's become ugly from the inside out.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2008, 11:34:40 AM »

Peaches - did you ever see this website?   

http://www.spankjoran.com/
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2008, 11:50:12 AM »

Peaches - did you ever see this website?   

http://www.spankjoran.com/

I thought I remembered one where you actually got to spank him.  Maybe it's the pain pills.
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