Maybe I jumped to conclusion but ... why would the airline employee have contacted Derives. I suspect it was at Joran's request.
Something is not right. Devries is suppose to be Natalee Holloway's advocate.
Janet
I agree something isn't right. But then again Janet we usually agree.
I will say this. There is a plan in place. I just don't know what the plan is yet but it will eventually click. I will just watch this ridiculous game being played out.
This game started the day Joran threw the wine in Peter Devies face.
San ... it is weird how our mind our in sync regarding issue encompassing the Natalee Holloway case.
I was not suspicious of the wine throwing incident until the phone interview with Joran which took place one day prior to the airing of the Devries video recording.
Something did not set right. When you consider Joran's anger issues why was he not furious at the betrayal of his friend? Why was Joran not furious at Peter Devries?
Then when his words implying that everything he said could be proven to be lies. I had a gut feeling at that moment that Joran knew he was being taped.
Joran has no concerned regarding the impending airing of the video recording.
Then when Joran's father talking to Hans Mos about security for him. Han's Mos is the prosecutor ... he is Natalee's advocate. Since when does the prosecutor provide protection for the suspect. Then lo and behold ... the prosector's office gives a press release in defence of Joran in regards to all the attention being focused on him and ... emphatically states that Joran would be provided protection if necessary. I find this very strange coming from the prosecutor's office and ... not from the ALE.
Who in the Aruban investigation is speaking on behalf of Natalee Holloway ... obvious not those within the prosecutor's office?
Janet
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Joran Van der Sloot
Pauw & Witteman
(Phone Interview/Grandma's house)
February 4, 2008Question: How did this all happen, with this so called confession.
Joran: Yes, I did say something to someone I should not have said, it's a story to someone I have know for a while.
Question: How long have you known him?
Joran: about 6 months.
Question: What did you tell him:
Joran:
Yes, well everyone will see it this Sunday, ha ha ha , but I can easily proof that what I said is not true, it's a whole lot about nothing, and it's kinda sad that they brought the mother over here and that they told her, but we'll see it all.
Question: Is it now not right to say right now what you said, and why it is that what you said is not true.
Joran: I talked to my parents and my lawyer and they told me how it is, and they said also , just don't say anything.
Question: The news said tonight that it's about the news that after you made out with Natalee that you , that she got sick, and became lifeless, and that you called a friend and he came with a boat and that you went on the boat with her and that you threw her in the water , you glide her in the water.
Joran, Yes, that's what I said.
Question: Is that not very dumb of you to say that?
Joran: Yes it is very dumb, but what I'm trying to say is that I have build up a relationship with someone for 6 months, and yes, that person, it's very difficult to explain, but that person did very brave (?), and I told him what he wanted to hear.
Question: How did you know what he wanted to hear?
Joran: Well I had my suspicion a little bit, because he talked to other friends of mine, I did not have a super good feeling towards him,
Question: but then, Joran it is unbelievable dumb to just say this, if it's not true.
Joran: It's so dumb, it's so dumb, it's so dumb, it's really dumb.
Question: Do you think you will be arrested again?
JJoran: No, I don't think so. Maybe it could be, they have arrested me before for less than this, but I have been tricked.
Question:
Have you talked more to this friend who got this story from you? Joran:
I just had a conversation with him, for about 20 minutes. Question:
and did you (uitgekafferd) **** (lol) on him? Joran:
No, I still talk with him normal. Question:
But he betrayed you, or not? Joran:
Yes, but he does not want to talk, he says, what is coming is coming on sunday. Question: but we've heard that he received money from peter van de vries, to get a confession from you.
Joran: Yes, I don't know, I think he has more than enough money himself, but, we'll see.
Question: what kind of boy is he?
Joran: You see, I don't know what they are going to show this sunday, but this is a boy, he's an older man, I met him, and we've met a lot, I found him to be fascinating, I was very interested in him, and I, ha ha ha, just told him what he wanted to hear,
Question: but how did you not know then that he was not honest, that you told him just what he wanted to hear?
Joran: Yes well, he did a lot of thing you should not do, things that I would never do myself, some of these things he did do,
Question: example?
Joran: I don't want to give an example, I don't want to talk someone down, but it now shows that he used me. (loose translation)
Question: yes with a hidden microphone and a hidden camera, you never noticed that, it would seem.
Joran: These days these things are so little, but it's just been unbelievable dumb, really really, not normal dumb, and I hope that will become more peaceful because it seems that all hell is breaking loose.
Question: Have you had contact with the boy that might have moved the body of Natalee?
Joran: Yes, no, that's just a boy I met on Aruba, just now, when I was there,
Question: Did you speak to him?
Joran: But now I just met him.
Question: Does the police have contact with this boy now?
Joran: Yes, well I don't know, I don't know it all. I have talked to my parents and my lawyer, and I just don't know what's happening now.
I don't know what the OM is thinking. I think they are going to investigate it all, and it will show that it is not that way. Question:
you have contact with your dad, does your dad have contact with the OM?Joran:
I don't know, I think he had a conversation with Mr. Mos, but it's only about security. Question: Oh so it was not about an new investigation?
Joran: No
Question: Because, Mr Mos has said, this is the missing part, your confession.
Joran: Yes, it's very (vervelend) nasty
but what I said was not true, and they can found out if it's true or not. Question: So you did not go with Natalee in a boat into the water and put her in the water?
Joran: No of course not.
Question: That did not happen for sure?
Joran: No,
Question: And how can we find out that that is not true, as you say?
Joran: Yes, I don't know, it has to do with that person, that after two and a half years with that person, that's not possible. (Joran talks in half sentences here) No, I, it's just been very stupid.
Question:
do you blame de Vries? Joran :
NO, he does his job, I think that sunday night will bring very good tv night , but it's too bad that with this there are a lot of feelings for a lot of people involved here, and they will be hurt, and that's not a good tv program, but that's the way it is.
Question: Joran, but now for all the people that are now thinking, Joran vd Sloot has lied from the beginning , and we talked around this table with Peter de Vries, and now it seems like again he lied again to someone else, why should we believe Joran vd Sloot?
Joran: Yes, I ask myself the same thing, there is no reason to believe me.
Question: are you going to watch sunday evening?
Joran: I think I will watch sunday evening ...
Question: will you consider to come to our program the next day to give your reaction?
Joran: I don't know, I think for myself I don't want to react, I'm pretty sober about it, but we'll see.
We'll call on monday again.
Thank you very much.
Translation - Marco@RU
Joran Van der Sloot
Pauw & Witteman
(Phone Interview/Grandma's house)
February 4, 2008http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0QWaD27y+++++++++++++
AMIGOE
February 9, 2008<snipped>
The OM has called on the media in a press release not to launch a witch hunt around the Holloway-case and to abstain from investigations of their own. “The interest for this case seems to degenerate into a witch hunt, whereby several people are being menaced in an intimidated manner”, is the opinion of justice. To the OM, these practices are ‘unacceptable’. People are being marked as suspects without any confirmation and menaced as such with all its consequences. Besides, other than causing big unrest, journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice. “Without wanting to harm the value of free press coverage, justice would like the media to be reserved, exactly for the above reasons.”
“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel. “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”
If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der SlootThe OM is also of the opinion that yesterday’s words of Justice-minister Rudy Croes were premature. Croes wants to declare Joran van der Sloot persona non grate.
“The boy is not convicted yet; besides, there are a whole lot of judicial hurdles ahead, before he can be refused admission to Aruba. He is legally admitted anyway”, was the reaction of the OM
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http://www.amigoe.com/english/ why isn't jvds pissed off at patrick? jvds is a sociopathic pathological liar, and a totally corrupt excuse for a human being. he's also cowardly, but not totally stupid. think of the background patrick had jvds believing. think about the way patrick carries himself. patrick is not someone that jvds would want to piss off. he's well aware of who the loser would be.
