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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 - 5/8/08 (Read 303154 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Reply #840 on:
May 08, 2008, 05:32:16 AM »
Quote from: ******* on May 07, 2008, 09:29:36 PM
This was a excellent post by J4N if you haven't read it yet. I guess we all had a chance at one post except his dutch friend at Patrick's site. In return he threw insults and showed his true colors and hidden agenda. A true Aruban Patriot.
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April 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Justice for Natalee Holloway said:
Patrick, Like so many posters from Aruba you are very quick to point out that the US has crime. You are absolutely correct, Patrick, the US has a lot of crime, but this is not about the US. It’s about Aruba. This is a diversion tactic that you and your fellow Arubans put forth in an attempt to change the focus from the Natalee crime to general crime in the US. It simply isn’t about us this time, it’s all about Aruba. Aruba is responsible for the corruption and the coverup that followed the horrific disappearance of a promising young American woman who chose to celebrate a significant event in her life on your island. The way in which her disappearance has been handled is deplorable. After three years, we continue to learn of the depth of the corruption and coverup. It would most assuredly be a valuable learning experience for you to read the many hours of research and documentation of corruption and a coverup that exists at the scared monkey site. I am confident though, that you are already aware of this and you have probably personally experienced much of what we have put forth about corruption and coverups.
Contrary to the implications that you have made, we are not ignorant enough to believe that we hold every man. woman, and child on Happy Island directly responsible for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. It’s insulting that you would even suggest this. We do know that those who are directly responsible have been protected. We have no way to break through this web of protection with only our voices and requests. Our boycott of Aruba is intended to force the citizens of Aruba to demand what they already know should be the right actions from their government. Three years of pleas for justice have been to no avail. Perhaps by affecting the personal bank accounts of the Aruban citizens, we will finally see the culmination of our demands for justice. The Aruban people have certainly been quite vocal of late in demanding salary and overtime increases. Perhaps they will eventually also demand justice and right actions. Our basic requests are not at all outrageous. We are asking for honor and truth. These are two human rights that should be afforded to everyone on your island whether they are Aurban or foreign tourists.
We are appreciative of your efforts to expose Joran van der Sloot. We were supportive of you when you met with resistance on your recent trip to Aruba. You have most certainly been effective in keeping this crime and Joran, himself, in the media. We celebrate that your actions have most assuredly brought a great deal of stress and discomfort to the perpetrators. We also accept that as an Aruban it is most likely painful for you to witness any financial loss to your island. However, you must also be cognizant of the fact that we did not create the Natalee Holloway incident. Aruban/Dutch people created this problem and it is Aruba who must step forward with the correct resolution. Until this happens, we will continue to boycott your Happy Island for what was done to Natalee Holloway, for what was done to her parents, and for what has been done to other American tourists who have ventured onto your island.
We want justice, Patrick, and we will not stop until it is delivered by the government and people of Aruba. We will continue to boycott your island and I have no doubt that you would do the same if this had happened to a Dutch or Aruban girl on the streets of the US. Your pompous statements will only serve to fuel our anger and our resolve. I am sincerely disappointed to learn that you have known the van der Sloots for seven years, lived across the street from the Kalpoes, and staged the entire video with your friend Joran. You should be ashamed of yourself. I, for one, will not be purchasing your volume of fiction and I have no intention of stopping my boycott of Aruba.
RESPONSE PATRICK
Dear Mr or Mrs. Smith
I don’t see any new point of view in this that has not already been discussed. But you had not posted yet, so I give you some space. I notice again that you are also one of these scared monkeys who have consipracy on the top of their minds. It is not a diversion tactic and I don’t have fellow Arubans I even spoke with this about. Of course it is important to realize that a kid - just as example - lives in a far more dangerous world in the USA as far as crime goes, than in France, or Germany… or Aruba. In the sense of a call for a boycott that says all. Cover-ups, corruption and bad actions of dirty authorities also happen in the States. Let me say it very simple, if Natalee would have been black for instance the media would have not paid that much - if any - attention. Also that happens in your own country many times. Focus on your own faults, I have already focused on the one that happened 3 years ago in Aruba and I’m still working on it.
For the rest, see Soph, she all summed it up correctly.
Greetings
*******,
I don't know quite what to say. This post didn't come from J4N. It is the email that I sent to Patrick after he sent us the email against the Aruba Boycott.
Patrick's response was to insult me and SM. He didn't deny that he had known Joran, as we later learned that Joran and Patrick had spent time together, years before, at a water sports company owned by Patrick's brother.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Reply #841 on:
May 08, 2008, 05:37:31 AM »
Quote from: SS on May 08, 2008, 05:32:16 AM
Quote from: ******* on May 07, 2008, 09:29:36 PM
This was a excellent post by J4N if you haven't read it yet. I guess we all had a chance at one post except his dutch friend at Patrick's site. In return he threw insults and showed his true colors and hidden agenda. A true Aruban Patriot.
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April 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Justice for Natalee Holloway said:
Patrick, Like so many posters from Aruba you are very quick to point out that the US has crime. You are absolutely correct, Patrick, the US has a lot of crime, but this is not about the US. It’s about Aruba. This is a diversion tactic that you and your fellow Arubans put forth in an attempt to change the focus from the Natalee crime to general crime in the US. It simply isn’t about us this time, it’s all about Aruba. Aruba is responsible for the corruption and the coverup that followed the horrific disappearance of a promising young American woman who chose to celebrate a significant event in her life on your island. The way in which her disappearance has been handled is deplorable. After three years, we continue to learn of the depth of the corruption and coverup. It would most assuredly be a valuable learning experience for you to read the many hours of research and documentation of corruption and a coverup that exists at the scared monkey site. I am confident though, that you are already aware of this and you have probably personally experienced much of what we have put forth about corruption and coverups.
Contrary to the implications that you have made, we are not ignorant enough to believe that we hold every man. woman, and child on Happy Island directly responsible for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. It’s insulting that you would even suggest this. We do know that those who are directly responsible have been protected. We have no way to break through this web of protection with only our voices and requests. Our boycott of Aruba is intended to force the citizens of Aruba to demand what they already know should be the right actions from their government. Three years of pleas for justice have been to no avail. Perhaps by affecting the personal bank accounts of the Aruban citizens, we will finally see the culmination of our demands for justice. The Aruban people have certainly been quite vocal of late in demanding salary and overtime increases. Perhaps they will eventually also demand justice and right actions. Our basic requests are not at all outrageous. We are asking for honor and truth. These are two human rights that should be afforded to everyone on your island whether they are Aurban or foreign tourists.
We are appreciative of your efforts to expose Joran van der Sloot. We were supportive of you when you met with resistance on your recent trip to Aruba. You have most certainly been effective in keeping this crime and Joran, himself, in the media. We celebrate that your actions have most assuredly brought a great deal of stress and discomfort to the perpetrators. We also accept that as an Aruban it is most likely painful for you to witness any financial loss to your island. However, you must also be cognizant of the fact that we did not create the Natalee Holloway incident. Aruban/Dutch people created this problem and it is Aruba who must step forward with the correct resolution. Until this happens, we will continue to boycott your Happy Island for what was done to Natalee Holloway, for what was done to her parents, and for what has been done to other American tourists who have ventured onto your island.
We want justice, Patrick, and we will not stop until it is delivered by the government and people of Aruba. We will continue to boycott your island and I have no doubt that you would do the same if this had happened to a Dutch or Aruban girl on the streets of the US. Your pompous statements will only serve to fuel our anger and our resolve. I am sincerely disappointed to learn that you have known the van der Sloots for seven years, lived across the street from the Kalpoes, and staged the entire video with your friend Joran. You should be ashamed of yourself. I, for one, will not be purchasing your volume of fiction and I have no intention of stopping my boycott of Aruba.
RESPONSE PATRICK
Dear Mr or Mrs. Smith
I don’t see any new point of view in this that has not already been discussed. But you had not posted yet, so I give you some space. I notice again that you are also one of these scared monkeys who have consipracy on the top of their minds. It is not a diversion tactic and I don’t have fellow Arubans I even spoke with this about. Of course it is important to realize that a kid - just as example - lives in a far more dangerous world in the USA as far as crime goes, than in France, or Germany… or Aruba. In the sense of a call for a boycott that says all. Cover-ups, corruption and bad actions of dirty authorities also happen in the States. Let me say it very simple, if Natalee would have been black for instance the media would have not paid that much - if any - attention. Also that happens in your own country many times. Focus on your own faults, I have already focused on the one that happened 3 years ago in Aruba and I’m still working on it.
For the rest, see Soph, she all summed it up correctly.
Greetings
*******,
I don't know quite what to say. This post didn't come from J4N. It is the email that I sent to Patrick after he sent us the email against the Aruba Boycott.
Patrick's response was to insult me and SM. He didn't deny that he had known Joran,
as we later learned that Joran and Patrick had spent time together, years before, at a water sports company owned by Patrick's brother.
Good morning SS.Please can you point me to where you learned that Patrick knew joran for 7 years?I thought a article(in Dutch?)was misunderstood,that the article said Patrick knew OF joran for 7 years?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 08, 2008, 05:54:39 AM »
Good Moning Karma!
CAPS is the one who filled us in on Patrick knowing the van der Sloots and living across the street from the Kalpoe family. He gave us a newspaper article that was written in Ducth and it is posted back on I think, the Shango thread. It says that Joran and Patrick took part in water sports classes together at a water sports park that is/was owned by Patrick's brother. The classes were about seven years ago. Maybe Klaas or someone can find it and repost it. Patrick has not denied that he did know Joran before their supposed in the Dutch casino last fall. After I sent this email, he commented to a later poster (Jinx, I think) that the Kalpoes must have been in nappies when he lived across the street, but he didn't mention knowing Joran previously. It seems that Castro also knew this information about Patrick knowing Joran and there are suppose to be comments on the camera and tape that was left on after Patrick's interview in Aruba.
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*******,
Thanks for the compliment about the post. If I recall, I was quite fired up that day when I responded to Patrick's boycott email.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/204780/index.html
article about the Antilles speaker of parliament wanting to set rules for talks with the Dutch delegation.
he wants to forbid Hero Brinkman from speaking about the corruption.
(the pages on SM are not loading very well)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: klaasend on May 08, 2008, 01:31:56 AM
Quote from: Peaches on May 08, 2008, 01:05:19 AM
Quote from: AZSunny on May 07, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: always 1 on May 07, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
*******, I have gone back and read the last 39 posts and I cannot find where you all are talking about a new investigation in Aruba....Is there one, and who initiated it? Also Klassend, I see someone suggested Wellbutrin to you....You seem like a person who would do research on anything you would take....I gained 30 lbs taking this drug....
and you can't have a glass of wine!
Apparently I did not understand the directions correctly. It never occurred to me to not chase it with a glass of vino. I don't recall putting on weight either. It was the possible seizure thing I just couldn't get into.
Hi Peaches - fling any monkeys lately, lol
I'm working on my aim........ and my feint. First one hubby shot hit me right in the face........dangerous little primates, those monkeys..
I'm so glad to see you back.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: friend of monkeys on May 07, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
I am trying to imagine...lol....
all the drug sniffing dogs chasing after the police officers and hotel security staff.....
Now there is a U tube moment.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: AZSunny on May 07, 2008, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: Destiny on May 07, 2008, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on May 07, 2008, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: Destiny on May 07, 2008, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on May 07, 2008, 05:27:26 PM
Destiny,
I don't write well, but there are many here that do.
I think most are excited about your efforts.
Why not start a thread and write it just like you would
talk it, then others can make suggestions? JMO
I can't...I've been sendint them inside info...that they are currently investigating....I hope you understand....it's a quid pro quo situation...to get what we want....not good to post on a public forum...ya know what I mean?
Then my suggestion would be to keep it short. People lose interest
after a few sentences. Maybe you and Richard and do it by e-mail.
Does that sound dirty?
How does one lose interest....does this mean...if I just don't follow the current thread.....all my work is *out of sight...out of mind*?
No offence to you Dear.......Hugs to You...Des...
Destiny, I am jumping in here and maybe someone already address this. But what i think Magnolia meant is do not put a page full of veribage in the ad. People will read so much and then tune out. Keep some white space and ad more pictures. It is an old ad writing trick really, get their attention with the key facts, support with pictures, and let the white space draw their attention to what you really want them to read.
and by the way Magnolia..that was funny! (the dirty part)
That is what I thought Magnolia meant, also. I think she had a great idea.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Here is what I've got so far...include words from other Monkeys too...group effort so far...ok..let's slice n' dice....Destiny...
Open Letter to the Good People of Aruba. We are looking for one Brave Heart.
Dear Friends of Aruba. We see how difficult times are hurting you, and your Families. We see how you work so very hard to earn a decent wage, to house, clothe, and feed your Families. We see how hard it is for you to watch the economy of Aruba sink lower than the evening tide...while those in power make more money, and you make less. We see how you take to the streets to make your voices heard. We hear your anger and Pain.
Our Hearts go out to you, the Good People of Aruba. The Good People that were there for us during our loss. The Good People that are still there. Our Loss of Natalee will never fade. And we Thank those of You who have grieved, and hoped for Justice with us.
We now grieve and hope for You, the Good People of Aruba. We grieve that a few wealthy, powerful people have put their own wants and needs, before a whole Island of Good hard working people. The Good People of Aruba, who have made Aruba their Home and Country. The Good People who have given Aruba the Life Blood, that made it the Jewel of the Carribean...but now that Jewel is tarnished for the whole world to see. Tarnished by a few corrupt and greedy people. Corrupt people who would rather see the Good People of Aruba live in fear. Fear of not being able to put food on the table. Fear of not being able to get their visas and the RIGHT TO STAY IN THE HOMES THEY BUILT on Aruba. Fear of speaking out against what they know is wrong.
We hope that only one person, with a good heart and pure soul, can end this injustice brought on so many, by the greed and fear of so few.
Please, we pray, Let us join hands and hearts and bring justice to all. This boycott is held in place by a few corrupt and greedy people in Aruba....NOT the Good People of Aruba. It only takes one Brave Voice, one Brave Heart to make things right for the Good People of Aruba, and the sad friends and Family of Natalee.
You, the good people of Aruba, can make a difference and help this child and her family find peace.. It is Your voices that need to be heard. We have, Over the last three years, made justice for Natalee's cause for Justice has been a very high priority for many. and now call on you, the Good People of Aruba, to do likewise. To rise up and Demand that victims and the voices of their friends and families are heard by the judicial system. rapists and killers do not walk the streets where they make strike at you next. To make sure that Aruba is a just society free from racial discrimination, sexism, nepotism, cronyism and corruption. Aruba needs a Hero. One single voice could end the boycott, and make Aruba the shining Jewel she once was.
Aruba has the opportunity to return Natalee to her family. Aruba should be a society where all members are welcome and are free to achieve their dreams and wishes. It should not be a society where those with the connections use those connection to further their own greed and corruption. Are some above the law? Have mistakes been made? It only takes One Good, Brave People of Aruba to answer those questions. One Heart can break this boycott. The Good People of Aruba do not deserve this Boycott. The Good People of Aruba are paying for the sins of the corrupt few.
Presently Aruba has seen some very hard times due to the Natalee Holloway case. Tourists do not wish to spend their hard earned dollars on a vacation that does not afford all members of society equal justice. It is the weakest and smallest, the vulnerable that need protection. More than all others. They are often the victims of crimes and find themselves victimized all over again when Justice is denied.
I appeal to the Good People of Aruba to rise up and make your voices heard and to demand Insist on equality in the judicial system. Ensure that justice be served, to ensure that All receive the bare minimum that Justice provides. is available to everyone. I appeal to the Good People of Aruba to ensure your own peace and prosperity that the tourist's dollars delivers.
Only you, the Good People of Aruba, can make our voices heard and help to deliver Justice to Natalee and her loving Family. We appeal to you, to make those voices sing in unison and rise above the petty bickering that has divided Aruba from the rest of the world. We appeal to you to make your voices heard in the next election and to use your vote to end Injustice for Natalee.
I appeal to the people of Aruba to speak out for the vulnerable and weak, and for those that do not have a voice. If crime should knock on your door, who will speak for you?
We Pray that The Good People of Aruba see better times. We Pray that Natalee comes home to her grieving Family. We Pray for her Family to have the right to bury her in her home town where she was born, and lived her very short life. We Pray for a HERO FROM ARUBA.
Your safety is our first concern. We have set up a secure phone and fax line in the USA. If You are that Brave Hero...we promise to sing your praises in the House of God. For You will be the Saviour of Aruba, and the healer of grieving hearts of the Family and Frinds of Natalee.
Please Good People of Aruba. Help us bring Natalee home.
Bless You in your hard times. One Brave Heart is all that is needed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Right on Destiny !
sounds like it would be a winner to me my only comment would be maybe it is too long will the average aruban read that much ? don't know just asking
Heck and all I wanted was Jorans, Paulis's and the Kalpos heads on sticks on the beach .
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: Jerry from Ohio on May 08, 2008, 10:21:00 AM
Right on Destiny !
sounds like it would be a winner to me my only comment would be maybe it is too long will the average aruban read that much ? don't know just asking
Heck and all I wanted was Jorans, Paulis's and the Kalpos heads on sticks on the beach .
Hands Jerry the sticks...LOL
No, I don't think it is too long...I think they will read it because it *sympathizes* with them...they, hopefully will *feel* the need for this sympathy...they are hurting pretty bad right now....and angry too...they are looking for a way to...how should I put this...*get even*...Plus, in the same issue...Diario will be running a re-cap of the case on the anniversary of Natalees' disappearance...they will be covering the hard facts aspects in their article....we'll be reaching out to the *heart* of the people...not bashing them...double edged sword...
Destiny....Thanks to all who helped with this version of the letter....anymore feedback...please????
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Janet....would you be so kind as to find the *perfect* quote from Beth/Loving Natalee...to put under Natalees' photo for the article....Thank You!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: Destiny on May 08, 2008, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: Jerry from Ohio on May 08, 2008, 10:21:00 AM
Right on Destiny !
sounds like it would be a winner to me my only comment would be maybe it is too long will the average aruban read that much ? don't know just asking
Heck and all I wanted was Jorans, Paulis's and the Kalpos heads on sticks on the beach .
Hands Jerry the sticks...LOL
No, I don't think it is too long...I think they will read it because it *sympathizes* with them...they, hopefully will *feel* the need for this sympathy...they are hurting pretty bad right now....and angry too...they are looking for a way to...how should I put this...*get even*...Plus, in the same issue...Diario will be running a re-cap of the case on the anniversary of Natalees' disappearance...they will be covering the hard facts aspects in their article....we'll be reaching out to the *heart* of the people...not bashing them...double edged sword...
Destiny....Thanks to all who helped with this version of the letter....anymore feedback...please????
Just my thought....but there may be a few to many "good people of Aruba" perhaps if we cut about half the good people lines, and call them citizens, caring people, etc. Also, should there be a mention of the reward? Great words though!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: AZSunny on May 08, 2008, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: Destiny on May 08, 2008, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: Jerry from Ohio on May 08, 2008, 10:21:00 AM
Right on Destiny !
sounds like it would be a winner to me my only comment would be maybe it is too long will the average aruban read that much ? don't know just asking
Heck and all I wanted was Jorans, Paulis's and the Kalpos heads on sticks on the beach .
Hands Jerry the sticks...LOL
No, I don't think it is too long...I think they will read it because it *sympathizes* with them...they, hopefully will *feel* the need for this sympathy...they are hurting pretty bad right now....and angry too...they are looking for a way to...how should I put this...*get even*...Plus, in the same issue...Diario will be running a re-cap of the case on the anniversary of Natalees' disappearance...they will be covering the hard facts aspects in their article....we'll be reaching out to the *heart* of the people...not bashing them...double edged sword...
Destiny....Thanks to all who helped with this version of the letter....anymore feedback...please????
Just my thought....but there may be a few to many "good people of Aruba" perhaps if we cut about half the good people lines, and call them citizens, caring people, etc. Also, should there be a mention of the reward? Great words though!!
Thanks AZ...good point! As far as the reward goes...even mention of that...would be up to the Family....I wouldn't do it on my own...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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SS ... it was revealed by caesu that CAPS' translation of the source he thought implied that there was a long time relationship between Patrick and the VDS' was incorrect.
Also ... CAPS' implication that Patrick live across the street from the Kalpoes' was a misunderstanding which was acknowledge by Klaas. It was actually another Kalpoe family.
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PATRICK'S LONGTIME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VDS'?
http://patrickvandereem.nl/uncategorized/the-ongoing-boycot-aruba-saga/
Patrick van der Eem
Monday, April 14th, 2008
The ongoing boycot Aruba saga
April 19th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Jorik said:
Hi Patrick,
I just noticed Justice for Natlee claims you’ve known the van der Sloots for 7 years and lived near the Kalpoes….and you didn’t respond to that…is that true? I doubt it but since you didn’t comment on it at all…..a bit weird.
Greetings,
Jorik
PATRICK’S RESPONSE
Total nonsense. Probably coming from this Casto tape. Funny how they believe that stuff, coz he is known as one of their biggest enemies if they really would care for Natalee. I start to doubt more and more the other information these people spread around. As far as the Kalpoe brothers go, they must have been in their nappies when I left Aruba
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PATRICK'S LONGTIME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VDS'?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375280#msg375280
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 19, 2008, 06:31:47 PM
Here is your proof that where Patric lived in holland, he was only 15 minutes drive from the Sloot famaly and they know each other since 2003 according to this article.
check it out, it is in Dutch.
http://www.tctubantia.nl/algemeen/binnenland/2579829/Almelose-zakenman-ontfutselt-bekentenis.ece
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Quote from: caesu on April 19, 2008, 06:51:59 PM
it doesn't say that in that article.
it says he lives in a bungalow in Lathum - Zevenaar, 15 minutes from Arnhem.
and in 2003 he started his hydraulic hoses company in Almelo
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Tamikosmom
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
« Reply #283 on: April 19, 2008, 07:23:44 PM »
caesu ... thank you.
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PATRICK WAS THE SATISH AND DEEPAK'S NEIGHBOUR?
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on April 10, 2008, 05:41:04 AM
Hi monkeys,
My research is going well,
Kalpoe Bodjhperkash S 5/2/1964 Distr. Wanica Seroe Patrishi 14C
Kalpoe, geb. Debipersad Santakoemarie 10/28/1968 Distr.Saramacca Seroe Patrishi 14C
The Above names are the Father and Mother Kalpoe and their address is Seroe Patrishi 41C
Ospina Martha B 11/20/1950 Barranquilla Seroe Patrishi 14F
van der Eem Patrick P 4/1/1973 Curacao Seroe Patrishi 14F
Now in 2005 Patrick was register as living in Aruba. His Address is just 1 house down across the street from the Kalpoe's
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg372608#msg372608
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 19, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
I feel like I am in a twilight zone.
Could somebody please clarify.
Thank you.
Janet
1. Kalpoes' Mother - Nadira Ramirez
2. Kalpoes; Stepfather - Ramirez Luiz Antonio
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375343;topicseen#msg375343
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VMS
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
« Reply #326 on: April 19, 2008, 10:33:19 PM »
Hi Janet,
I don't understand it either. The Debipersad Kalpoe name was thrown around back in the beginning of the case because it is listed in the phone book. I've never seen anything to verify a connection to Deepak and Satish though. Maybe Caps will explain how he made the connection ...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375343;topicseen#msg375343
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Klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #748 4/17 -
« Reply #325 on: April 19, 2008, 10:28:11 PM »
Janet - Hopefully Capslock will verify but I believe he may be wrong. There must be another Kalpoe family (possibly related) that he's mixing up with the K2's mom and stepdad.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2793.msg375343;topicseen#msg375343
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Janet....would you be so kind as to find the *perfect* quote from Beth/Loving Natalee...to put under Natalees' photo for the article....Thank You!
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 08, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Quote from: Destiny on May 08, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
Janet....would you be so kind as to find the *perfect* quote from Beth/Loving Natalee...to put under Natalees' photo for the article....Thank You!
Des
I would be honored.
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Just got off phone with Aruba....in the/our Article...not an add anymore...they are now calling it an article...they will include the photo of Natalee...and some of their photos of the Good People of Aruba during the searches for Natalee....They have to have our *finished Article* by the 24th. of this month....they will then do the layout with some of their photos too...send it back to us for approval....both articles will come out in the issue of the 29th...I think she said...will confirm *exact* date....whew!
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I agree there are too many "Good People of Aruba" . Maybe you can change it earlier to Hero, so that is repeated more often. Also, do a spell and grammar check for what appears in English (if it's being put in English).
When does this have to be submitted?
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I agree with Maggie, also I would play down the poverty level a little bit since we are the catalyst of the problem, but thats just me...
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