Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 - 5/8/08

[Tamikosmom]

Where is that Beautiful photo of Natalee...the lighter one...and what format(s) should we send it in....should it already have the quote Janet will provide, embedded at the bottom...details...pesky details....also...IDSTLOU...do you think the Family should have final approval?....

TIA...Destiny

ALSO...I can't be the tip/fax line....what do we do about that?
Help....Mr. Wizard......

What about DANA being the tip/fax line....

I'll be so happy after this letter is published in a few weeks...then...I can go back to just making phone calls...LOL...

I say ... a tip line provided by Beth Holloway and ... the FBI tip line.

Janet

Janet...I agree 100%...but...I don't know how to do that....arrrrghhhh!!!!!!....I know how to TALK......pulling my waist length hair out.....maybe I'll look good bald.....

I believe a tip line for both sources already exists.

I will see what I can find.

Janet

[always 1]

to 2NJSonsmom, thank you for understanding

[Destiny]

Where is that Beautiful photo of Natalee...the lighter one...and what format(s) should we send it in....should it already have the quote Janet will provide, embedded at the bottom...details...pesky details....also...IDSTLOU...do you think the Family should have final approval?....

TIA...Destiny

ALSO...I can't be the tip/fax line....what do we do about that?
Help....Mr. Wizard......

What about DANA being the tip/fax line....

I'll be so happy after this letter is published in a few weeks...then...I can go back to just making phone calls...LOL...

I say ... a tip line provided by Beth Holloway and ... the FBI tip line.

Janet

Janet...I agree 100%...but...I don't know how to do that....arrrrghhhh!!!!!!....I know how to TALK......pulling my waist length hair out.....maybe I'll look good bald.....

I believe a tip line for both sources already exists.

I will see what I can find.

Janet

Thank You Janet!....you just saved me from going bald....

[always 1]

Hi Klassend, how are you feeling?

[Destiny]

OK Monkeys....just got off the phone with Aruba....for translation into Pap and Dutch...they need finished article by *early* next week...Jossy is going to go ver what has been sent so far...lwt us know what we need to do ...if anything....but he also has final option to add whatever he wants.....Janet....he might get political...where we didn't...wouldn't that be nice

[Peaches]

OK Monkeys....just got off the phone with Aruba....for translation into Pap and Dutch...they need finished article by *early* next week...Jossy is going to go ver what has been sent so far...lwt us know what we need to do ...if anything....but he also has final option to add whatever he wants.....Janet....he might get political...where we didn't...wouldn't that be nice

I think it's going well.  Give them a couple variations and let them pick.  That's what's going to happen anyway, Jossy is the editor, he is the last call.  I think we should give him an opportunity to provide us some feedback. 

As for assuming Arubans are unfamiliar with MLK, that's kinda presumptuous, isn't it?  I had heard of Betico Croes prior to this case.  Just means I paid attention in school.  It seems a leap to assume these folks are unaware of the rest of the world.  I don't know that I would want to aggravate them about their global awareness of the heros of other nations.

[klaasend]

Hi Klassend, how are you feeling?

Feeling better, thanks for asking.  I just gave you a temporary avatar until you find something you really like..hope that's OK 

[klaasend]

OK Monkeys....just got off the phone with Aruba....for translation into Pap and Dutch...they need finished article by *early* next week...Jossy is going to go ver what has been sent so far...lwt us know what we need to do ...if anything....but he also has final option to add whatever he wants.....Janet....he might get political...where we didn't...wouldn't that be nice

Great job Destiny!  Let us know how we can chip in for the costs.  I'd like to help.

[always 1]

Guys, something is wrong...when I type in Natalee Holloway Scared Monkeys...I get the front page news dated that day, underneath that is older post, until today....when I pull the site up I get the site that starts Teacher Union Chairman dated May 7.....the site named Texas Equasearch ..........dated May 8 that everyone else besides me is posting on, does not appear on my computer at all......Is it me??????

[klaasend]

O/T

My husband just made me go to Home Depot with him, lol    I had to use one of their scooters, no way was I ready to treck around a Home Depot! 

[klaasend]

Guys, something is wrong...when I type in Natalee Holloway Scared Monkeys...I get the front page news dated that day, underneath that is older post, until today....when I pull the site up I get the site that starts Teacher Union Chairman dated May 7.....the site named Texas Equasearch ..........dated May 8 that everyone else besides me is posting on, does not appear on my computer at all......Is it me??????

Why don't you just go directly to the front page of SM.

www.scaredmonkeys.com

Sometimes you have to scroll down to the post you want to comment on but the most currect posts/topics on the SM.com blog will be on top.

The address for this forum is:

www.scaredmonkeys.net

If you bookmark them both it would make it easier for you 

[klaasend]

[Destiny]

OK Monkeys....just got off the phone with Aruba....for translation into Pap and Dutch...they need finished article by *early* next week...Jossy is going to go ver what has been sent so far...lwt us know what we need to do ...if anything....but he also has final option to add whatever he wants.....Janet....he might get political...where we didn't...wouldn't that be nice

Great job Destiny!  Let us know how we can chip in for the costs.  I'd like to help.

Klaas....so good to hear you are feeling better!

I was told..if they liked the article...there would be *no charge*...

Today, on the third call I made there...I was told the article is directed to the Good People of Aruba in a *very good way*...so, we'll see

[Peaches]

I agree with AZSunny about overworking the phrase "good people of Aruba".

[Destiny]

This is the *version* that Mr. Mansur will review...edit..or not...and respond to let us know what else they want...if anything...


Open Letter to the Good People of Aruba. One Brave Heart is needed.



Dear Friends of Aruba.  Difficult times are  hurting you, and your families.  You work so very hard to earn a decent wage, to house, clothe, and feed your families, and it must be difficult to watch the economy of Aruba sink lower than the evening tide...while those in power make more money, and you make less. You take to the streets to make your voices heard, and we share (deeply feel?) your Anger and Pain.

Our hearts go out to you, the Good People of Aruba, you sensitive and caring Arubans who were there for us during our loss.  You Good People are still there. We thank those of you who have grieved and hoped for Justice with us, knowing our loss will never fade.

We now grieve and hope for you; we grieve that a few wealthy, powerful people have put their own wants and needs ahead of the needs of a whole island of good hard working people who have made Aruba their home and country, who have given Aruba their life blood and made it the Jewel of the Carribean. It was a truly wonderful island, and people from all over the world wanted to spend time there. Unfortunately the Jewel is tarnished, tarnished by a few corrupt and greedy people.  These corrupt people would rather Arubans live in fear, fear of being hungry, homeless and without choices, afraid of speaking against what they know is wrong.

Aruba is seeing some very hard times due to the Natalee Holloway case. These three years have been devastating. Many tourists do not wish to spend their money on a vacation to a country that does not see to their safety and does not afford all members of society equal justice. It is the weakest and smallest, the vulnerable that need protection.  They are most often the victims of crimes and lack of Justice.

We hope that only one person, a Hero with a good heart and pure soul, can end this injustice brought on so many, by the greed and fear of so few.

 A peace-loving, courageous American, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., once said Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.  Dr. King's life and words live on as the following words remind us, Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.  Injustice by a powerful few, no matter where in this world it exists, is a threat to us all and we cannot remain silent.


Please, we pray, Let us join hands and hearts and bring justice to all.  This boycott is held in place by a few corrupt and greedy people in Aruba It only takes one Brave Voice, one Brave Heart to make things right for all Arubans and the sad friends and family of Natalee.

One Hero can make a difference and help this child and her family find peace. It is your voices that need to be heard. Over the last three years, Natalee's cause for Justice has been a very high priority for many.  They now call on you to do likewise. For Natalee and for your own freedoms it is time to rise up and demand that victims and the voices of their friends and families be heard by the judicial system.  Rapists and killers should not walk the streets where they may strike at you or your children.  Make sure Aruba is a just society free from racial discrimination, sexism, nepotism, cronyism and corruption. Aruba needs a Hero. One single voice will make Aruba the shining Jewel she once was.

It will be an Aruban society that welcomes all members, and those members are free to achieve their dreams. It is not a society of connections, corruption and greed. In this society no one is above the law.

We appeal to the Good People of Aruba to rise up and make your voices heard and to demand, insist on equality in the judicial system.  Ensure that justice be served. Ensure that All receive the bare minimum that Justice provides.

Only you, the Good People of Aruba, can make our voices heard and help deliver Justice to Natalee and her loving Family. May those voices sing in unison and rise above the petty bickering that has divided Aruba from the rest of the world. Speak up for the vulnerable and weak, and for those with no voice.  Make your voices heard in the next election and use your vote to end Injustice for Arubans and for Natalee.


Lord hear our prayer that the Good People of Aruba see better times.
We Pray that Natalee comes home to her grieving Family so she may be buried in the town where she was born and lived.
We Pray for an Aruban Hero.

Your safety is our first concern.  A secure phone and fax line in the USA has been set up.  If You are that Brave Hero...we promise to sing your praises in the House of God.  For You will be the Saviour of Aruba, and the healer of grieving hearts of the Family and Friends of Natalee.

Please Good People of Aruba. Help us bring Natalee home.

Bless You in your hard times. One Brave Heart is all that is needed.

[Tamikosmom]

Good Moning Karma!

CAPS is the one who filled us in on Patrick knowing the van der Sloots and living across the street from the Kalpoe family.  He gave us a newspaper article that was written in Ducth and it is posted back on I think, the Shango thread.  It says that Joran and Patrick took part in water sports classes together at a water sports park that is/was owned by Patrick's brother.  The classes were about seven years ago.  Maybe Klaas or someone can find it and repost it.  Patrick has not denied that he did know Joran before their supposed in the Dutch casino last fall.  After I sent this email, he commented to a later poster (Jinx, I think) that the Kalpoes must have been in nappies when he lived across the street, but he didn't mention knowing Joran previously.  It seems that Castro also knew this information about Patrick knowing Joran and there are suppose to be comments on the camera and tape that was left on after Patrick's interview in Aruba.

POENTJE CASTRO

http://patrickvandereem.nl/uncategorized/the-ongoing-boycot-aruba-saga/

Patrick van der Eem
Monday, April 14th, 2008
The ongoing boycot Aruba saga

April 19th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Jorik said:

Hi Patrick,

I just noticed Justice for Natlee claims you’ve known the van der Sloots for 7 years and lived near the Kalpoes….and you didn’t respond to that…is that true? I doubt it but since you didn’t comment on it at all…..a bit weird.

Greetings,
Jorik


PATRICK’S RESPONSE
Total nonsense. Probably coming from this Casto tape. Funny how they believe that stuff, coz he is known as one of their biggest enemies if they really would care for Natalee. I start to doubt more and more the other information these people spread around. As far as the Kalpoe brothers go, they must have been in their nappies when I left Aruba.

+++++++++++++++

http://patrickvandereem.nl/stories/message-for-my-american-readers/

Friday, March 14th, 2008
Message for my American readers

Poentje Castro, a television reporter in Aruba, made a sneak recording of a private conversation with Patrick van der Eem, the insider in the Natalee Holloway case who recorded the confession of Joran van der Sloot during an undercover camera operation.  The temptation to slyly record a private conversation with the man who is now famous in Holland and the USA for recording a criminal confession must have been just too much to resist.

<snipped>

In another fragment that made headlines as hard news, Van der Eem is reported to have said: “because I already know him (Joran) for so many years”. However, at the end of the same sentence, he states that he knows Joran in flesh and blood only “for seven months” for the duration of the undercover operation plus aftermath. What he in fact says in the first part is that “he had already heard of him (Joran) for so many years”, as have so many of us since Natalee’s disappearance.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2745.msg368490;topicseen#msg368490

[always 1]

thank you Klassend, for the info and the monkey face

[Tamikosmom]

O/T

My husband just made me go to Home Depot with him, lol    I had to use one of their scooters, no way was I ready to treck around a Home Depot! 

Klaas ... that's great.  It is another step back to "normal".  However ... do not overdo it.

It is sooo good to have you back!!

 

******* and San must be thankful ... Tamikosmom is too much for them to handle on their own.

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

thank you Klassend, for the info and the monkey face

The big question still remains.  Did Klaas dress you or are you still running around the cage naked?

 

Janet

[Peaches]

OT/I'm sorry but how many times can you turn on Oprah and see Cher (age 61) and Tina Turner who's 68, shaking what they've got?

They are inspirational.  So pardon me for not paying attention.