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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 - 5/8/08 (Read 303190 times)
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:08:29 PM »
DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
Gerold Dompigs official position within the Natalee Holloway case implies his words in the following quotes were derived from a foundation of knowledge.
Janet
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Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
October 12, 2005
So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 2, 2005
COSBY: Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell. Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?
DOMPIG: Yes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 8, 2005
DOMPIG: I still believe that these boys have been lying, they're still lying, and everybody knows that by now. So there's no doubt in my mind that they know something, they're guilty of something.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/
Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
November 12, 2005
DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators. So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:09:17 PM »
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on May 04, 2008, 03:01:07 PM
Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 02:49:37 PM
@Karmaroundup,
I thougt you asked this:
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If you are going to take words(from what happened to Natalee on aruba)then also add:murder,kidnapping,coverup and injustice.
These statements above are made by deepak and satish right?
Didn't deepak also say in a statement that the night after Natalee disappeared,joran called him on the phone and they met at the casino then went to joran's house?
Wasn't there also 2 guys who saw deepak's car at the van der sloots house BEFORE Beth arrived there that same night?
So was deepak with joran or not(the night after Natalee's disappearance)?
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We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
At approximately 02:40, we arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume of the music down, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes. After about 10 minutes Joran phoned Satish. Joran verified with Satish if he remembered the story correctly. Joran talked to Satish about 3 minutes.
Kalpoe told this story long before Beth told this.
So that part looks to be true.
But listen, I am getting tired of this. I stop for a while. Just think about it. I dont want to argue about it.
I only try to say there is a change that the brothers are innocent, that's all.
You'll go on with your search, I'll read for a while.
Briany,all we are doing is discussing the case but if you want to stop that's cool.I'm not used to anyone responding to me anyway
Thanks again for the statement above,that was only one statement by deepak.I can't find the one I was pertaining to(with deepak stating that joran called him and said the American's were at his home and could deepak pick him up)because I had problems with my old puter and can't get into my files saved on it.I may be remembering this statement all wrong too.
Have a good day.
Your right. If you go for the truth, go for illusions like Shango and Simian and ignore the facts.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Let us not forget that it was Deepak who escorted a drugged Natalee out of the bar to he car. We can differ on opinion,but this is what Beth & Dave believe also and it's backed up by 3 witnesses. He went back and grabbed her like a Hyena grabbing his tranquilized prey and the bartender witness saw it and did nothing.. Why would Deepak do that if this was all for Joran? Rest assured,he is equally as guilty as Joran in the premeditated events. Joran drugged her and Deepak snagged her after the bar cleared out and the rape drug took affect.
It makes me want to puke seeing the Dutch program and De Vries portraying Natalee as a drunk horny teen creating her own demise from being careless. Making out with Joran,saying Beth was hitlers sister,K2 were slaves..etc Its all 100% BS told only by the main suspects who have lied about everything,but yet the Dutch TV portrays it as real,never once revealing there true motives as predators..It's not even close to what happened,she was drugged,abducted and kidnapped. I will bet it all. Not only did they use Joran's lies as facts but they even had a dark skin actor play him to protect him and tried to say Natalee drugged herself with cocaine
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:11:57 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 04, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 10:31:27 AM
It obviously does not suit some people when it would appear that the Kalpoe brothers have nothing to do with the "rape" of Natalee.
DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
I can only assume along with two Aruban attorneys ... there was a foundation that Karen Janssen derived from which warranted the rearrest of Deepak and Satish in August, 2005..
Janet
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AUGUST, 2005
Deepak Kalpoe
- Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately,
raping somebody
and new suspicions.
Satish Kalpoe
- Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately,
raping somebody
and new suspicions.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118769/
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/26/aruba.arrests/index.html
Helen Lejez
NANCE GRACE
August 26, 2005
HELEN LEJUEZ, TWITTY FAMILY ATTORNEY: I don`t think this has to do with a lot of wiretapping. I do believe it has to do with bringing forth the new evidence. It has to do with the case approaching the 60 days and that
they are adding new evidence so they can have the case going.
GRACE:
OK, what new evidence, Helen?
LEJUEZ:
The rape case.
GRACE:
OK. You said new evidence. What "new evidence" regarding Natalee Holloway do you think prosecutors have?
LEJUEZ:
Right now, they`re talking about a gang rape. So when we talk about a gang rape, we talk about a gang. The gang consisted of three of them. Right?
GRACE: Right.
LEJUEZ: Even though -- even though maybe it`s not out that the other suspect that`s in jail right now will be added to the gang, he is part of the gang.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html
Arlene Ellis-Schipper
On the Record w/ Greta
August 30, 2006
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, I think it's a big moment, Greta. You know, the prosecution and the investigation is moving very carefully. They don't want to make more mistakes, and they are very careful.
So they must have had some real, real evidence and new facts that they felt confident enough to haul them back in.
<snipped>
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, it means that the investigation is moving forward and there's hope that we might go towards a trial because, at first, I was doubting whether we were even facing a trial.
It shows that the police have done some good work and apparently gathered evidence, new evidence enough for to bring them back in custody.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167372,00.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:21:02 PM »
DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
Then there is the jogger who collaborates the gardener's testimony. Why did he not come forward? I do believe that in August, 2005 on Hannity & Colmes ... Dave Holloway answered my question.
Janet
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THE JOGGER
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
August 23, 2005
ANASTASIYA BOLTON, WBMA-TV: ... Also, the jogger, the latest witness that police are talking about -- this is supposedly the man who called police from a public phone several days after Natalee Holloway disappeared, saying that he saw the car with the Kalpoe brothers and Joran by the racquet club the night that she disappeared. Police are still looking for him. They`re not able to find him because the man, again, called from a public phone and did not leave his name -- Nancy.
GRACE: You know, that was a question we had last night, Jossy, as to why the Aruban police could not trace that phone call from a jogger, a jogger escaping the heat on the island of Aruba the night Natalee went missing. That`s the apparent explanation of why he was out jogging at that time of the night. Jossy, if this is true and he called from a public phone, true, police cannot trace who he is, but it would also give credence. Was that public phone near where Natalee Holloway disappeared?
JOSSY MANSUR, MANAGING EDITOR, "DIARIO": That`s what I understand, that this jogger also saw the same car parked at the same spot by the racquet club. However, he did call from a public telephone, and I don`t know whether the police can trace it or not. But according to information I have, they cannot.
GRACE: Well, they already know it`s from a public phone. They know where it was. Take a listen to this.
<snipped>
... Jossy, I want to get everything I can from you that you know about this jogger. Could you just tell me, what night is it the jogger calls police about what he saw?
MANSUR:
I think it was two or three nights after Natalee disappeared. I don`t know. I don`t have any of the answers to that. I don`t know any of the facts involved. I know that the police have put out a call for him. They`ve requested us to publish it, where we did publish a request for this man to come forward. And they`ve been on the radio and everywhere else, asking for this jogger to show up, to give his testimony.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/23/ng.01.html
Midnight Jogger Bulletin
DIARIO Aruba
8/22/2005
Police got an anonymous tip from a person who regularly jogs very early in the morning hours, in the area of Rooi Santo and the Aruba Racquet Club.
This person is male and now his information is considered very valuable to Police.
The Police requests that the jogger get in contact with the Police spokesperson, Papito Comencia by telephone at 583-3483 or 582-4000
As of yesterday, this person has not reacted to the request. DIARIO doesn't know if there was someone there to answer the phone. An American journalist tried calling live, but one of the numbers was a fax machine and the other, no one answered.
It is known that this person (witness) possibly saw a very suspicionsly parked vehicle in the early morning hours. This would corroborate the other witness who said that he saw this vehicle, with the suspects Deepak, Satish and Joran.
[translated by Getagrip]
Posted by Getagrip at 8/22/2005 10:08:00 AM
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_08_21_archive.html
Dave Holloway
Hannity & Colmes
August 10, 2005
COLMES: The question is cover up or incompetence? Is the person working with you getting to the bottom of it?
HOLLOWAY: I spoke to him today, he is as perplexed about all of this as we are. Seems like every time someone speaks out or comes forward. Just like the gardener, he is supposed to appear in court Thursday then be immediately deported. That is the work of the defense of course.
Some witnesses may be scared to come forward for fear of repercussions
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:21:36 PM »
Quote from: ******* on May 04, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
Let us not forget that it was Deepak who escorted a drugged Natalee out of the bar to he car. We can differ on opinion,but this is what Beth & Dave believe also and it's backed up by 3 witnesses. He went back and grabbed her like a Hyena grabbing his tranquilized prey and the bartender witness saw it and did nothing.. Why would Deepak do that if this was all for Joran? Rest assured,he is equally as guilty as Joran in the premeditated events. Joran drugged her and Deepak snagged her after the bar cleared out and the rape drug took affect.
It makes me want to puke seeing the Dutch program and De Vries portraying Natalee as a drunk horny teen creating her own demise from being careless. Making out with Joran,saying Beth was hitlers sister,K2 were slaves..etc Its all 100% BS told only by the main suspects who have lied about everything but yet the Dutch TV portrays it as real,never once revealing there true motives as predators..It's not even close to what happened,she was drugged,abducted and kidnapped. I will bet it all. Not only did they use Joran's lies as facts but they even had a dark skin actor play him to protect him and tried to say Natalee drugged herself with cocaine
You have to consider this is an old tape. Peter says there was a witness. Peter can make mistakes.
Your not able to solve things yourselves and blame people who are trying to find the truth.
The only thing you hope is that there is a big huge complot. Well it is a bit silly to think drugspeople are interested in the disappearance of one girl.
Goodbye, sort it out for yourselves. I don't come back.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:26:00 PM »
DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
Nadira's claim that Deepak and Satish returned home on the morning of May 30, 2005 at approximately 3:00 AM makes sense when you consider that the gardener's court testimony states that he witnessed Joran and Deepak sitting in Deepak's parked vehicle across the street from the Marriot Beach at 2:30 AM.
Janet
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Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 11, 2005
Joran got out first and then the girl. He said: Fine, I will see you tomorrow. I asked him how he would get home. He said that he would find a way to get home. I said, and the girl. He answered, I will drop her off at the “Holiday Inn Hotel”, we will walk along the beach and it is very close by. I had asked him, sure. He answered yes, I will see you tomorrow. I do remember that I saw them walking off hand in hand. I drove out of the street to get back onto the road and proceeded driving into the direction of my house ...
To your question as to how late we got home, I can say the following.
We arrived home approximately 02.20 hours.
Satish Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 11, 2005
At Joran's request my brother turned right and drove into the street just north of the Marriot Hotel. My brother continued driving up the street until Joran said that he should stop the car. My brother then brought the car to a full stop. My brother asked Joran how he was going to get home. Joran answered that he would find a way to get home. My brother asked Joran if he was sure he would find another way to get home. Joran said that he was sure that he would find a way to get home.
At that moment it was approximately 01.45 hours on May 30th 2005.
The girl and Joran then got out of the car. Joran and the girl walked towards the beach. Joran and the girl had put their arms around each other while they walked. To your question whether the girl had been drunk and how the girl was walking I can say the following. The girl was at that time well with it and was walking fine too. After we had driven out of this street I asked my brother to slow down and I had thrown the "Yard' cup out of the car on the right side of the road. After that we drove towards our house.
Nadira Ramirez
Dr. Phil Show
September 15, 2005
Natalee Holloway was last seen on May 30th with three young men, Joran van der Sloot and two brothers, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Two of Dr. Phil's investigators, Harold Copus and John Weeks sat down for an exclusive interview with Deepak and Satish's mother, Nadira. She requested that her face not be revealed and after the interview made several attempts to keep what she'd said from being aired on Dr. Phil.
<snipped>
"What time do you think they got in?"
"I assess that it was not four in the morning,” she says.
"It's, like, before three or maybe three o'clock.
How I know they were home? Because I leave my room door always open when they step out, so when they come they just close my door. And that's the sign that they are home."
http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2732/?id=2732&isTip=&slide=1&null=null
http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2732/?id=2732&slide=2&null=null
Gardener - Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
Court Testimony
August 15, 2005
I looked and saw that on my watch it was at 02:30.
For 03.00 I was at my work. I’m not sure exactly how precise it is. When I encountered the car in question, it was on that dirt road. I had slowed down to drive past there. The lights of my car "from" shining on that car. The person beside the driver, kept its hand for its head and face. I saw that the driver slid a bit to the back.
Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 26, 2005
MANSUR: Because they were trying to hide their faces at that the hour, because we have to remember that the two Kalpoe brothers and Joran held on to the statement that they dropped Joran off at the beach and then went home.
But here we have someone that says categorically that they did not go home, they were in the car with Joran. Joran was sitting in the driver`s seat.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/26/ng.01.html
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on May 04, 2008, 03:01:07 PM
Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 02:49:37 PM
@Karmaroundup,
I thougt you asked this:
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If you are going to take words(from what happened to Natalee on aruba)then also add:murder,kidnapping,coverup and injustice.
These statements above are made by deepak and satish right?
Didn't deepak also say in a statement that the night after Natalee disappeared,joran called him on the phone and they met at the casino then went to joran's house?
Wasn't there also 2 guys who saw deepak's car at the van der sloots house BEFORE Beth arrived there that same night?
So was deepak with joran or not(the night after Natalee's disappearance)?
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We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
At approximately 02:40, we arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume of the music down, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes. After about 10 minutes Joran phoned Satish. Joran verified with Satish if he remembered the story correctly. Joran talked to Satish about 3 minutes.
Kalpoe told this story long before Beth told this.
So that part looks to be true.
But listen, I am getting tired of this. I stop for a while. Just think about it. I dont want to argue about it.
I only try to say there is a change that the brothers are innocent, that's all.
You'll go on with your search, I'll read for a while.
Briany,all we are doing is discussing the case but if you want to stop that's cool.I'm not used to anyone responding to me anyway
Thanks again for the statement above,that was only one statement by deepak.I can't find the one I was pertaining to(with deepak stating that joran called him and said the American's were at his home and could deepak pick him up)because I had problems with my old puter and can't get into my files saved on it.I may be remembering this statement all wrong too.
Have a good day.
Your right. If you go for the truth, go for illusions like Shango and Simian and ignore the facts.
How do any of us know that S&S are illusions?They may have been speaking some truths.Yeah,IF they were speaking truths and had knowledge about this case that was/is lousy of them not to come forward with it straight out.They also could have been another smoke screen/distraction.Actually I know very little facts in this case but my opinion is that joran and his father paulus have much more to coverup than the kalpoe's BUT,also IMO,the kalpoe's are far from innocent.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 -
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May 04, 2008, 03:32:00 PM »
Quote from: Spock on May 04, 2008, 02:28:08 AM
Does anyone really still think Mos is going to do anything?
The forum seems to be going around in circles on old facts and old quotes. IMO Mos CLOSED the criminal case against J2K FOUR months ago and then released the three as suspects. The Judge agreed they were no longer suspects and forbid the prosecution to investigate or question them any further without substantial new evidence. As a matter of fact the Judge said they could never be suspects again without new evidence and a rearrest.
You may wish to disagree with me, but the Dutch have closed the case. No suspects, no body, no case, and no prosecution.
I agree that no one will be presecuted and I also believe Natalee's remains will never be found...especially if they never go back to check the targets.
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DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
Beth Twitty
CNN LARRY KING LIVE
February 23, 2007
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I know one thing that Deepak Kalpoe did in August was, when the gardener came before the judge of instruction to give sworn testimony of witnessing those three suspects together in the Kalpoe brothers' car that night at the pond, across the street from the Marriott, it was in front of the prosecutor, in front of the defense, the judge of instruction, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, Joran Van Der Sloot.
Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony.
That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html
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Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: ******* on May 04, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
Let us not forget that it was Deepak who escorted a drugged Natalee out of the bar to he car. We can differ on opinion,but this is what Beth & Dave believe also and it's backed up by 3 witnesses. He went back and grabbed her like a Hyena grabbing his tranquilized prey and the bartender witness saw it and did nothing.. Why would Deepak do that if this was all for Joran? Rest assured,he is equally as guilty as Joran in the premeditated events. Joran drugged her and Deepak snagged her after the bar cleared out and the rape drug took affect.
It makes me want to puke seeing the Dutch program and De Vries portraying Natalee as a drunk horny teen creating her own demise from being careless. Making out with Joran,saying Beth was hitlers sister,K2 were slaves..etc Its all 100% BS told only by the main suspects who have lied about everything but yet the Dutch TV portrays it as real,never once revealing there true motives as predators..It's not even close to what happened,she was drugged,abducted and kidnapped. I will bet it all. Not only did they use Joran's lies as facts but they even had a dark skin actor play him to protect him and tried to say Natalee drugged herself with cocaine
You have to consider this is an old tape. Peter says there was a witness. Peter can make mistakes.
Your not able to solve things yourselves and
blame people who are trying to find the truth
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The only thing you hope is that there is a big huge complot. Well it is a bit silly to think drugspeople are interested in the disappearance of one girl.
Goodbye, sort it out for yourselves. I don't come back.
OK,what the heck?I thought we were discussing????
Briany,do you think we are blaming the kalpoe's for no reason,no facts?Do you think the kalpoe's are trying to find the truth?IF so then they will comply with doc Phil's atty's and the court to turn over those documents requested of them,right?
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DEEPAK AND SATISH'S INVOLVEMENT
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Further, the gardener’s testimony stands as valid and concrete to this day. He confirmed this in front of a judge. He passed a lie detector test successfully! Nothing of what he has said has been contradicted with solid proof to this day.
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2006_04_30_archive.html
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Quote from: San on May 04, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: San on May 04, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
I will have to look for this link. Dompig either said it on Rita Crosby or another show.
Hopefully Tamikosmom sees this and provides the link because she is a great resource for providing quotes and links.
It is Deepak on the Skeeters tape. Are you trying to say it wasn't Deepak and Jaime Skeeters interviewed the wrong person.
I do not try to say it is not Deepak. I do not know. I do not recognize him.
If you can give a direct link to the Skeeters tape so we can all see Deepak on the Skeeters tape.
Is that such a strange question? Someone gave a link but I only saw half a face. So if there is a proper version I missed, maybe someone knows exactly were we can find the tape so we can have a look.
Jaime Skeeters would not play a game and interview the wrong man.
If it was not Deepak he would be jumping for joy. In fact if it were not Deepak he would hand deliver all the documents to Dr. Phil himself and then say thank you Dr. Phil you are going to make me a rich man. But he has not done that yet and the reason being is because he is guilty.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MQ8Dcxdc97A&feature=related
I thougt Deepak was a Hindostan/Surinam skinny man. Why is his head half on the video?
I've had enough of this. You know it's Deepak and I'm not going to play this game anymore.
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Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: ******* on May 04, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
Let us not forget that it was Deepak who escorted a drugged Natalee out of the bar to he car. We can differ on opinion,but this is what Beth & Dave believe also and it's backed up by 3 witnesses. He went back and grabbed her like a Hyena grabbing his tranquilized prey and the bartender witness saw it and did nothing.. Why would Deepak do that if this was all for Joran? Rest assured,he is equally as guilty as Joran in the premeditated events. Joran drugged her and Deepak snagged her after the bar cleared out and the rape drug took affect.
It makes me want to puke seeing the Dutch program and De Vries portraying Natalee as a drunk horny teen creating her own demise from being careless. Making out with Joran,saying Beth was hitlers sister,K2 were slaves..etc Its all 100% BS told only by the main suspects who have lied about everything but yet the Dutch TV portrays it as real,never once revealing there true motives as predators..It's not even close to what happened,she was drugged,abducted and kidnapped. I will bet it all. Not only did they use Joran's lies as facts but they even had a dark skin actor play him to protect him and tried to say Natalee drugged herself with cocaine
You have to consider this is an old tape. Peter says there was a witness. Peter can make mistakes.
Your not able to solve things yourselves and blame people who are trying to find the truth.
The only thing you hope is that there is a big huge complot. Well it is a bit silly to think drugspeople are interested in the disappearance of one girl.
Goodbye, sort it out for yourselves. I don't come back.
I am trying to tell you the facts as we know them Briany. I could care less who is involved,I just want justice and answer's. Not sure what you mean by drugspeople as I am talking about Joran and his pimp friends. They didn't call themselves pimps for nothing. Is that bad for Aruba's tourism if they told the truth what JK2 were really doing that night? Apparently it is and it's a shame that not even once publicly they can show who really is the victim and who is the predator and what there real motives were for that night. Instead it was a drunk,horny Natalee who caused her own demise from being stupid and careless
This is all a healthy debate with people that have read everything for 3 years now,I do not understand why you would leave now after a good debate and fact gathering. No one here is a conspiracy theorist with agenda's to blame the Kalpoes because they are creeps,the truth is the evidence points directly right at them. No one said either Kalpoe violently murdered Natalee,the evidence says they knew Natalee was drugged,they were involved in the abduction and they know a lot more including something bad happened.
If they see the girl they will see the shit! If they find that girl Joran you will get 15 years and that scholarship of yours you can say goodbye.
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Steve Cohen did not retract his claim that two of the suspects had sex with Natalee ... he just clarified that there was not an official record.
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THE KALPOES' INVOLVEMENT
Steve Cohen
ARUBA TRUTH
December 7, 2005
A coalition of groups announced Friday the appointment of Steve Cohen to act as spokesperson to North American media, in regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance case.
AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June.
He has a full knowledge of the case
and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design Group that has served in an advisory capacity to both ATA and AHATA.
The goal of this action is to coordinate the responses of the private and public sectors to North American media.
Steve Cohen
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January 28, 2006
Aruba stays afloat through Natalie Holloway's investigation
By Hazel Heyer
"Anything DNA that is identified to be of Natalee's will allow us to bring a strong case forward against the three boys. We are also getting to finally talk to some of the Alabama teens who left on that plane and did not wait around for interrogation," said Cohen.
Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance.
"Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her.
Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice."
said Cohen.
Steve Cohen
ARUBA TRUTH
January 29, 2006
There are concerns about the statements regarding the investigations view of whether or not any of the suspects had consensual sex with Natalee Holloway.
It was not my intention to suggest that they had admitted any such actions on the official record
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Quote from: ******* on May 04, 2008, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: briany on May 04, 2008, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: ******* on May 04, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
Let us not forget that it was Deepak who escorted a drugged Natalee out of the bar to he car. We can differ on opinion,but this is what Beth & Dave believe also and it's backed up by 3 witnesses. He went back and grabbed her like a Hyena grabbing his tranquilized prey and the bartender witness saw it and did nothing.. Why would Deepak do that if this was all for Joran? Rest assured,he is equally as guilty as Joran in the premeditated events. Joran drugged her and Deepak snagged her after the bar cleared out and the rape drug took affect.
It makes me want to puke seeing the Dutch program and De Vries portraying Natalee as a drunk horny teen creating her own demise from being careless. Making out with Joran,saying Beth was hitlers sister,K2 were slaves..etc Its all 100% BS told only by the main suspects who have lied about everything but yet the Dutch TV portrays it as real,never once revealing there true motives as predators..It's not even close to what happened,she was drugged,abducted and kidnapped. I will bet it all. Not only did they use Joran's lies as facts but they even had a dark skin actor play him to protect him and tried to say Natalee drugged herself with cocaine
You have to consider this is an old tape. Peter says there was a witness. Peter can make mistakes.
Your not able to solve things yourselves and blame people who are trying to find the truth.
The only thing you hope is that there is a big huge complot. Well it is a bit silly to think drugspeople are interested in the disappearance of one girl.
Goodbye, sort it out for yourselves. I don't come back.
I am trying to tell you the facts as we know them Briany. I could care less who is involved,I just want justice and answer's. Not sure what you mean by drugspeople as I am talking about Joran and his pimp friends. They didn't call themselves pimps for nothing. Is that bad for Aruba's tourism if they told the truth what JK2 were really doing that night? Apparently it is and it's a shame that not even once publicly they can show who really is the victim and who is the predator and what there real motives were for that night. Instead it was a drunk,horny Natalee who caused her own demise from being stupid and careless
This is all a healthy debate with people that have read everything for 3 years now,I do not understand why you would leave now after a good debate and fact gathering. No one here is a conspiracy theorist with agenda's to blame the Kalpoes because they are creeps,the truth is the evidence points directly right at them. No one said either Kalpoe violently murdered Natalee,the evidence says they knew Natalee was drugged,they were involved in the abduction and they know a lot more including something bad happened.
If they see the girl they will see the shit! If they find that girl Joran you will get 15 years and that scholarship of yours you can say goodbye.
Thank you *******.There it is in deepak's own words.I sure don't know what truths and facts Briany is looking for.
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