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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2008, 05:31:43 PM »

Quotes from Deepak

10 juni 2005

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To your question as to how often I have been in contact with Joran over the phone over the past two weeks, I can state the following. We had contact over the telephone about three to four times a day.
To your question about what we spoke when we were contact over the telephone, I can state the following. We talked about that what had happened and whether his father had information for us about about the matter.

To your question as to why we talked so much about what had occurred, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, we felt involved in what had occurred, and also because Joran's father was a judge and he knows a lot of laws, and because he thought we could yet be considered suspects and arrested.
To your question as to how Joran's father came to the conclusion I just mentioned, I can state the following. We had told him about the interview, so about the manner we were interviewed.
To your question that if I know that I am innocent, I have nothing to worry about, I can state the following. I am innocent and still I was arrested.
To your question whether we had talked to Joran's father that night, I can state the following. We had spoken to him, because he sat down with us.You are telling me that I made a statement about a Steve yesterday, and now you are asking me who Steve is. Steve is a customer who comes to my place of work to use the Internet.

To your question as to what exactly Steve had told me, I can state the following. I was talking to someone on the phone about what had happened, and when I hung up the phone Steve said to me that I should not worry because he had seen us dropping off the girl at the hotel, he even saw that she had fallen down and that Joran had helped her up.

To your question as to where Steve was to have been able to see to see all of this, I can state the following. I didn't ask him where he was in order to have seen all of this. He also told me that he had not been to work that day.  Instead he had been at "Carlos & Charlies" and because of that he was of two minds about going to the police because he feared losing his job.

To your question as to how I got hold of his mobile phone number, I can state the following. I had asked him for his number and had told him that I would give it to the police if I got in trouble so that they could call him.
To your question as to how it is possible that I state that Steve was not sure whether he should go to the police, because he was afraid to lose his job, but that on the night in question, he did go to a public place like "Carlos & Charlies" and on top of that gave me his phone number so that he now can be sent for to testify, I can state the following. You should ask him.

To your question whether Steve knows Joran, I can state the following. Steve does not know Joran.
To your question whether I have spoken to my brother about Steve, I can state the following. I have spoken to everybody about Steve, with my mother, Satish, Joran and Joran's parents.

To your question whether I gave all of them Steve's mobile phone number, I can state the following. No, I kept the number to myself.
To your question as to why I quickly had an attorney, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, Joran's father said that there would be chance that we were going to be arrested, and that we had to prepare for that eventuality.

To you question as to how we prepared ourselves, I can state the following. By preparing I just meant looking for an attorney.

To your question whether I had spoken to my attorney prior to my arrest, I can state the following. Both families had a meeting with the attorneys. So my parents with me and my brother, and Joran with his parents.

To your question as to when that took place, I can state the following. That took place last Saturday.
In this part one can read that Deepak (at the time this interview took place,) still trusted Joran.
In the other statements you can read that the brothers, when Joran and Natalee started kissing, they thought this was weird because Joran had a nice girlfriend. The boys sound respectful to girls. I find that a very positive point. They do not talk bad about Natalee in the statements.If I read this statement it would not surprise me that the Kalpoe brothers felt intimidated by the VanderSloots. It sounds like: “you’re in trouble”. Not “Joran is in trouble”.
Why would Pa vdS tell the boys that “they were in trouble” if he really believed they dropped Natalee at the HI?

How did Joran's father knew they were going to be arrested?






No,they don't talk bad about Natalee in the statements but Briany,what do you think of deepak kalpoe when he said in the Jamie Skeeter's tape"Natalee dressed like a slut,Natalee acted like a slut"?Do you think that was very respectful of deepak kalpoe?

I do not know whether he sayd that but if he told that, it ways much later. In the meantime we has accused by the Americans and started to hate the fact that he was followed around, while he could not tell more that what he told already. If Deepak is really innocent and really can tell nothing more than that he dropped off Joran and his "girlfriend" in that street, but people insist in telling that he lies and rapes, it is not so strange that he start telling nasty things about Natalee. I myself, do understand Natalee's mother was (and is) very upset and I can understand her reactions, but I was not accused by lots of American people. Their lives were ruined. Maybe he was very angry at Beth Holloway.

Try to imagine how it feels when, after you finally tell the truth and a while later you realise you've been trapped, but people keep accusing you from murder and rape.

If Deepak really told this, it was his opinion but I do not believe this was his real opinion. It is very well possible that he told this because people kept telling he was a rapist and murderer and he wanted so say something back. But still those words do not make him a rapist.

Deepak told there was nothing wrong with Natalee when she left with Joran, Deepak and Satish told they were kissing.
Big deal, two 18 year olds kissing. Or? That does not make Natalee a slut. Come on!

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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2008, 05:35:15 PM »

15.  THE INVOLVEMENT OF DEEPAK AND SATISH

If Kalpoes are so innocent, why this??

If they told the truth, in the June statements, what are they worried about?  I would think they would want the FBI to clear their name and help them.  What were they trying to hide?

Name/Title: Complaint by Satish Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5 August 2005
File #: p-2005/03533
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Aruban Court
Responsive to Request 32

Name/Title: Complaint By Deepak Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5t August 2005
File #: p-2005103532
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator.. Aruban Court (Gerecht In Eerste Aanleg)

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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2008, 06:02:08 PM »

16.  THE INVOLVEMENT OF DEEPAK AND SATISH

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/11/28/deepak-kalpoes-car-being-washed-the-night-natalee-holloway-disappeared/

Deepak Kalpoe’s Car Being Washed the Night Natalee Holloway Disappeared

Kalpoe neighbor states that the Kalpoe car was being washed the night Natalee Holloway went missing. So why hose down a car in the middle of the night?

HOSING DOWN THE KALPOE CAR EARLY IN THE MORNING

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1.  brenda on November 28th, 2007 9:37 am
As I stated in an earlier post, dozens of people at C&Cs saw Natalee in the car with the 3 stooges, so unless there was something else to hide, washing and cleaning out the inside was ludicrous/unnecessary.

6.  Sharon Chicago on November 28th, 2007 10:25 am
Yes, I remember back in 2005 when it was mentioned that the Kalpoes washed their car in the early morning hours.
I think they were running scared. They wanted to erase any contact they had with Natalee, even though others saw her in the Kalpoes car at Don & Charles. They wanted to scrub the inside and outside so no DNA would show up.

9.  Para2legal on November 28th, 2007 10:57 am
Deepak and his brother are in this waist deep. Deepak also stated on the J.S. tape that if he knew where the body (Natalee’s) was he would tell. At that point in time, how would he know she’s dead (not abducted or a run away)unless he was involved? Where are the red flags on that statement??

11.  Pearl on November 28th, 2007 11:49 am
Loving Natalee: 
“Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.” Ecclesiastes 4:12
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12.  molly in houston on November 28th, 2007 12:00 pm
Sigh, I hope that it’s not too little too late. We have known, and talked about, since the beginning that Deepak’s car had DNA and needed to be thoroughly examined. An obvious clue to that necessity is that NO ONE washes their car in the middle of the night. NO ONE. After the night that they all had, J2K, you would think that the Kalpoes would be very tired and wanting to go to sleep. But no, instead, they were washing their car.
I hope that Mr. Mos is really on the up and up. Time for someone to get serious with this case and quit acting like a bumbling idiot.

15.  nurturer on November 28th, 2007 1:17 pm
So why hose down a car in the middle of the night?

18.  ben on November 28th, 2007 1:35 pm
Has any one heard from Beth,i have not heard from her since this story broke .I wonder if she knows something we dont concerning this story.

19. katablog on November 28th, 2007 1:41 pm
For Deepak to be washing his car the early morning of 05/30/2005, he had to have already known “something bad happened” to Natalee. Remember, this is before anyone from Nat’s group knew she was missing, no reports had been made to the police yet - in fact it sounds (if the neighbor’s time is right) that it was within less than 1 hour after the 3 left CNC with Natalee in the car.


NATALEE'S PARENTS KNOW!

Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway
NEW YORK LAWSUIT


Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot.

 
     40.  In the early hours of Monday morning, Deepak methodically and uncharacteristically cleans his silver Nissan.

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp8.html


JOSSY KNOWS!

Jossy Mansur
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
February 16, 2006


COSBY: … In the civil suit, it provided some nuggets of some of the information, and some of this hadn‘t really been highlighted before, Jossy. It said, “In the early hours of Monday morning”—this was when Natalee went missing—“Deepak methodically and uncharacteristically cleaned his silver Nissan car, claiming after the fact that it had bad ants in it.”

Had you heard that before, Jossy? And that, I think, is an interesting nugget.

MANSUR: Yes, ma‘am, we have heard it. We know that that early morning, they went into a total clean-up of the car. Witnesses, neighbors that live close to them testified to that. So the clean-up did take place.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11413381/
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2008, 06:10:44 PM »

I Agree, Janet.

THEY WERE PUTTIN' A WHOLE LOT OF HOPE INTO

THE DEVRIES - EEM JORAN CONFESSION.


Apparently, you see right through it. So do I, I bet a lot of other Monkeys do too.


Yes we do.


Hummm now why would Deepak panic.  I'll tell you why because he is 100% guilty.

In Aruba it is a crime to lie as a witness.  Once a suspect you can lie all you want.  The Gardner was brought before a judge and Deepak crapped his pants because he knew he was telling the truth.

The end.

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Beth Twitty
CNN LARRY KING LIVE
February 23, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I know one thing that Deepak Kalpoe did in August was, when the gardener came before the judge of instruction to give sworn testimony of witnessing those three suspects together in the Kalpoe brothers' car that night at the pond, across the street from the Marriott, it was in front of the prosecutor, in front of the defense, the judge of instruction, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, Joran Van Der Sloot.

Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony. That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html

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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2008, 08:47:45 PM »

 Thanks San and Carp!!  I really mean it.

 

I tell ya ... some have climbed aboart the Devries' video recording bandwagon ... adhered to the Aruban plan:

"Let's distance everybody who participating in the event of that fateful morning when Natalee Holloway went missing as well as ... everybody involved in the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing EXCEPT Joran.  On May 30, 2005 ... this young man was only 17 years old which implies that he can be protected from serious legal consequences.  The measure of closure will silence the family ... media attention will fade and ... the disappearance of an 18 year old American citizen will become a distance memory."

CASE CLOSED!


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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2008, 09:00:12 PM »

Briany you need to stop believing the pathological liar and his lying two friends about what they say happened. Natalee and Joran were never kissing in the car and she didn't let some stranger finger her while other strangers watched,mention slaves or say her mom was hitlers sister or want to have sex with Joran and his friends.. She was not some drunk slut drug addict posessing cocaine that was careless,horny and adventurous,that wanted to cruise around with strange boys she just met in a foreign land all by by herself,in hopes of getting laid before leaving. No one is believing the lies and misinformation and it is dispicable. If someone would have warned these students that date rape drugs happen all the time at C&C and Joran and the pimps did it to others,none of this would have happened. Natalee had no clue what was happening and it's hard to make decisions when you are drugged out of your mind,barely conscious and just want to collapse on the floor and sleep. Even more difficult to make decisions when you are totally unconscious.

All the facts point to her being preyed on,drugged and unconscious in the back of that car. Probably within 15 minutes she was out cold as witnesses and a bartender saw her walking out with Deepak and she could barely walk,he had to hold her by the arm to get her out of the bar and escort her to the car. Every single person said she was fine before Joran gave her that one shot of alcohol and everyone knows it,it's more then obvious what happened and the Kalpoes are definitely involved and know a great deal more.

This is what Natalee's Family and other's believe so you can think what you like,It's all backed up by witnesses,testimony and plenty of previous events,clues and facts that show the Kalpoes are involved and Natalee was preyed on,drugged and abducted. The sexual assaults/events that happened to Natalee was when she was unconscious and that is rape,its no coincidence that she dissapeared forever after being seen with these 3 and no one else after that. The modus operandi was definitely to drug and abduct one of the Mountain Brook students,although it is not clear if Natalee was targeted. If the man in the casino talking to Natalee is PVDS then that may be a clue,if you look at the charges against them in 2005 it said it was premeditated.
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2008, 09:12:22 PM »

Hi *******

Briany is not our only Dutch poster who adheres to the "Joran" only theory.

I cannot figure out what the motives are ... especially when you consider all the backup there is which supports the Kalpoes' involvement.  It is either ignored or ... disregarded.

Are there personal connections to the Kalpoes?  Is an Aruban agenda being supported?  Are these posters comprehending  something we are not?  If this was the case ... I wish credible backup was provided.

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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2008, 09:47:37 PM »

Hiya Monkeys. I know I don't post much but the fact that the Kalpoe's upheld Joran's lies are enough of a reason for me to feel they are guilty & know more about what happened thatn either have said.
I think they "knew the routine" of drugging an unsuspecting girl so some perverted idiot could get his jollies. MOO
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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2008, 10:13:23 PM »

Hiya Monkeys. I know I don't post much but the fact that the Kalpoe's upheld Joran's lies are enough of a reason for me to feel they are guilty & know more about what happened thatn either have said.
I think they "knew the routine" of drugging an unsuspecting girl so some perverted idiot could get his jollies. MOO

I agree.

Deepak Kalpoe - You'd be surprised how simple it was.

He was a pro at drugging girls.
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2008, 10:45:06 PM »

Hiya Monkeys. I know I don't post much but the fact that the Kalpoe's upheld Joran's lies are enough of a reason for me to feel they are guilty & know more about what happened thatn either have said.
I think they "knew the routine" of drugging an unsuspecting girl so some perverted idiot could get his jollies. MOO

I agree.

Deepak Kalpoe - You'd be surprised how simple it was.

He was a pro at drugging girls.

I also agree, they knew the game. 
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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2008, 11:06:06 PM »


The boys sound respectful to girls. I find that a very positive point. They do not talk bad about Natalee in the statements.


Briany ... put yourself in Beth and Dave's place.  Would your definition of Deepak Kalpoe be "respectful" when you consider the following words that came out of his mouth in regards to their daughter..

Then ... there is the Holiday Inn fabrication.  Briany ... anquish parents were desperately attempting to find their daughter and ... Deepak did not hestitate to lie regarding the last time he was in Natalee company.  In my opinion ... this shows a complete lack of conscience.

Janet

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Deepak Kalpoe:

“To tell you quite frankly, dressed like a slut, talked like one, too,” he said. “Would go into a car with three strange guys, and her mother, claiming her to be the goody-two-shoes."

http://scrux.com/natalee/skeetersseg6script.htm


Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 29, 2005


You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation.


Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 10, 2005


To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.

To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.

To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.

To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.


Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 13, 2005


Joran answered to phone and signalled me to turn the volume down of the music. That is what I did. I had also put my car into park. Joran talked a short while with his father. I only heard him say: yes, OK, that's allright. After this Joran closed the phone.

Joran turned to me and said that the police was at his house and that it had been his dad on the phone just now. Joran said that it was about a girl that we went out with last night. Joran looked at me and said: “Shit, that is the same girl we went out with last night”. Then he said at the same time: “what is up with this/wrong with this f***ing bitch”.

After that Joran said to me: “Hey, look. If the police asks about it then we will just say we went away with the girl from Carlos & Charlies, that we did a bit of a road-trip, that he kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car, that we dropped her off at the Holiday Inn, that she had fallen down, that he had helped her up and that she walked off”. I said to Joran that it was OK, it was fine. Joran than said to me, let's go home. We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
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« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2008, 11:21:34 PM »

17.  THE INVOLVMENT OF DEEPAK AND SATISH

The underlying message that is heard loud and clear in the Holiday Inn fabrication is that Joran, Deepak and Satish knew that Natalee Holloway was deceased.  Logic dictates the collaborated fabrication would not allow for the chance that the eighteen years old American citizen would turn up and expose all three as liars who were obstructing an investigation.

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June 13, 2005


Joran answered to phone and signalled me to turn the volume down of the music. That is what I did. I had also put my car into park. Joran talked a short while with his father. I only heard him say: yes, OK, that's allright. After this Joran closed the phone.

Joran turned to me and said that the police was at his house and that it had been his dad on the phone just now. Joran said that it was about a girl that we went out with last night. Joran looked at me and said: “Shit, that is the same girl we went out with last night”. Then he said at the same time: “what is up with this/wrong with this f***ing bitch”.

After that Joran said to me: “Hey, look. If the police asks about it then we will just say we went away with the girl from Carlos & Charlies, that we did a bit of a road-trip, that he kissed and fingered her, that she fell asleep in the car, that we dropped her off at the Holiday Inn, that she had fallen down, that he had helped her up and that she walked off”. I said to Joran that it was OK, it was fine. Joran than said to me, let's go home. We then drove from the Wyndham Hotel to Joran's house.
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« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2008, 11:29:18 PM »

Continued

... Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes.
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« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2008, 02:37:14 AM »

Thanks San and Carp!!  I really mean it.

 

I tell ya ... some have climbed aboart the Devries' video recording bandwagon ... adhered to the Aruban plan:

"Let's distance everybody who participating in the event of that fateful morning when Natalee Holloway went missing as well as ... everybody involved in the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing EXCEPT Joran.  On May 30, 2005 ... this young man was only 17 years old which implies that he can be protected from serious legal consequences.  The measure of closure will silence the family ... media attention will fade and ... the disappearance of an 18 year old American citizen will become a distance memory."

CASE CLOSED!


Janet

Janet,

Since I came to post on this board I have seen the theories about Peter and Patrick. Imo the theories about Peter and Patrick are absurd, but in Holland there are people who write the same kind of things about Peter and Patrick. The writers and journalist who try to claim this are working in cooperation with Renee Gielen and the VanderSloots.

I think it is weird to doubt a complete tape with voice and face from Joran, were you can clearly see that Joran, amongst other things, tells that Natalee does not come back over and over again. Instead of the Joran tape, those people prefer to believe a very dubious tape from Deepak and the story of the Gardener, who showed up weeks later and besides that tells a nearly unbelievable story. The timeline of the Gardener is not very correct and I do not believe someone is able to recognize three faces in the middle of the night in a flash. If that was the case, he would have gone to the police earlier. It is about a disappeared girl. So the reasons the gardener did not go to the police immediately, are unbelievable to me.
Weather Deepak panicked or not I do not know, but I can imagine he did.

Beth believes Deepak was at the house of VanderSloot the first time she arrived there. The statements of Deepak and Dos Santos tell a different story without any conflict in the statements. Beth can also be mistaken. She did not catch any sleep and was very upset.

How is it possible the statements of Dos Santos and Deepak are not in conflict with eachother?

Was Dos Santos also in the complot?

You think I want to separate the Kalpoes and think I have something to do with Aruba. The fact that you start writing things like that about me, give me the impression that you refuse to look into another direction. I do not want to separate the brothers, If they are in this, they are it this.  As I told you before, it would not surprise me if it appearedthey are dragged into this by VanderSloot and his powerfull friends to separate VanderSloot. The statement of a bartender does not mean much to me. Joran is wellknown with the people working in C&C, so that is not a big surprise to be.


Think about it and read the official statements. Hearsay does not help much.

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« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2008, 06:42:16 AM »

Quotes from Deepak

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To your question as to how often I have been in contact with Joran over the phone over the past two weeks, I can state the following. We had contact over the telephone about three to four times a day.
To your question about what we spoke when we were contact over the telephone, I can state the following. We talked about that what had happened and whether his father had information for us about about the matter.

To your question as to why we talked so much about what had occurred, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, we felt involved in what had occurred, and also because Joran's father was a judge and he knows a lot of laws, and because he thought we could yet be considered suspects and arrested.
To your question as to how Joran's father came to the conclusion I just mentioned, I can state the following. We had told him about the interview, so about the manner we were interviewed.
To your question that if I know that I am innocent, I have nothing to worry about, I can state the following. I am innocent and still I was arrested.
To your question whether we had talked to Joran's father that night, I can state the following. We had spoken to him, because he sat down with us.You are telling me that I made a statement about a Steve yesterday, and now you are asking me who Steve is. Steve is a customer who comes to my place of work to use the Internet.

To your question as to what exactly Steve had told me, I can state the following. I was talking to someone on the phone about what had happened, and when I hung up the phone Steve said to me that I should not worry because he had seen us dropping off the girl at the hotel, he even saw that she had fallen down and that Joran had helped her up.

To your question as to where Steve was to have been able to see to see all of this, I can state the following. I didn't ask him where he was in order to have seen all of this. He also told me that he had not been to work that day.  Instead he had been at "Carlos & Charlies" and because of that he was of two minds about going to the police because he feared losing his job.

To your question as to how I got hold of his mobile phone number, I can state the following. I had asked him for his number and had told him that I would give it to the police if I got in trouble so that they could call him.
To your question as to how it is possible that I state that Steve was not sure whether he should go to the police, because he was afraid to lose his job, but that on the night in question, he did go to a public place like "Carlos & Charlies" and on top of that gave me his phone number so that he now can be sent for to testify, I can state the following. You should ask him.

To your question whether Steve knows Joran, I can state the following. Steve does not know Joran.
To your question whether I have spoken to my brother about Steve, I can state the following. I have spoken to everybody about Steve, with my mother, Satish, Joran and Joran's parents.

To your question whether I gave all of them Steve's mobile phone number, I can state the following. No, I kept the number to myself.
To your question as to why I quickly had an attorney, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, Joran's father said that there would be chance that we were going to be arrested, and that we had to prepare for that eventuality.

To you question as to how we prepared ourselves, I can state the following. By preparing I just meant looking for an attorney.

To your question whether I had spoken to my attorney prior to my arrest, I can state the following. Both families had a meeting with the attorneys. So my parents with me and my brother, and Joran with his parents.

To your question as to when that took place, I can state the following. That took place last Saturday.
In this part one can read that Deepak (at the time this interview took place,) still trusted Joran.
In the other statements you can read that the brothers, when Joran and Natalee started kissing, they thought this was weird because Joran had a nice girlfriend. The boys sound respectful to girls. I find that a very positive point. They do not talk bad about Natalee in the statements.If I read this statement it would not surprise me that the Kalpoe brothers felt intimidated by the VanderSloots. It sounds like: “you’re in trouble”. Not “Joran is in trouble”.
Why would Pa vdS tell the boys that “they were in trouble” if he really believed they dropped Natalee at the HI?

How did Joran's father knew they were going to be arrested?






No,they don't talk bad about Natalee in the statements but Briany,what do you think of deepak kalpoe when he said in the Jamie Skeeter's tape"Natalee dressed like a slut,Natalee acted like a slut"?Do you think that was very respectful of deepak kalpoe?

I do not know whether he sayd that but if he told that, it ways much later. In the meantime we has accused by the Americans and started to hate the fact that he was followed around, while he could not tell more that what he told already. If Deepak is really innocent and really can tell nothing more than that he dropped off Joran and his "girlfriend" in that street, but people insist in telling that he lies and rapes, it is not so strange that he start telling nasty things about Natalee. I myself, do understand Natalee's mother was (and is) very upset and I can understand her reactions, but I was not accused by lots of American people. Their lives were ruined. Maybe he was very angry at Beth Holloway.

Really?So because deepak and satish"just happened"to drop joran and his"girlfriend????"off and had nothing to do with what happened to Natalee afterwards,they go on the defensive AND offensive and start talking bad about Natalee....the victim btw.I don't buy that.....why wouldn't either kalpoe brother just tell the truth in the beginning?IF their lives were truly ruined,they ruined it themselves.deepak really did say what I posted,read the Mr Skeeter tape transcripts.

Try to imagine how it feels when, after you finally tell the truth and a while later you realise you've been trapped, but people keep accusing you from murder and rape.

I find it very hard to put myself in the shoes of a criminal,in fact it's almost impossible Briany.Why don't you try and put yourself in Beth and Dave's shoes for a few minutes.Maybe then you will understand better what we all are trying to accomplish here.I have nothing in me that can empathize or sympathize with criminals.The kalpoe's chose to hang out with joran and I'm sure they enjoyed the perks that went along with that.joran got them into the clubs for free,joran got them girls to take advantage of.All the kalpoe's had to do was drive the monster around the island while he set up these"dates".

If Deepak really told this, it was his opinion but I do not believe this was his real opinion. It is very well possible that he told this because people kept telling he was a rapist and murderer and he wanted so say something back. But still those words do not make him a rapist.

So you not only don't believe deepak called Natalee a slut,but you try and justify how he felt IF he did call her a slut and was disrepectful toward Natalee?OK

Deepak told there was nothing wrong with Natalee when she left with Joran, Deepak and Satish told they were kissing.
Big deal, two 18 year olds kissing. Or? That does not make Natalee a slut. Come on!

Briany,are you male or female?Just wondering.
How do YOU know which parts of the kalpoe brothers statements to believe?Why aren't you not believing parts of joran's statements?How do you know if the kalpoe brothers didn't drop joran off at home that night and drove off with Natalee to drop her near her hotel?
As everyone here has already told you,innocent people do not lie especially if they are accused of what joran,paulus,deepak and satish are accused of.


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« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2008, 06:53:31 AM »

Briany you need to stop believing the pathological liar and his lying two friends about what they say happened. Natalee and Joran were never kissing in the car and she didn't let some stranger finger her while other strangers watched,mention slaves or say her mom was hitlers sister or want to have sex with Joran and his friends.. She was not some drunk slut drug addict posessing cocaine that was careless,horny and adventurous,that wanted to cruise around with strange boys she just met in a foreign land all by by herself,in hopes of getting laid before leaving. No one is believing the lies and misinformation and it is dispicable. If someone would have warned these students that date rape drugs happen all the time at C&C and Joran and the pimps did it to others,none of this would have happened. Natalee had no clue what was happening and it's hard to make decisions when you are drugged out of your mind,barely conscious and just want to collapse on the floor and sleep. Even more difficult to make decisions when you are totally unconscious.

All the facts point to her being preyed on,drugged and unconscious in the back of that car. Probably within 15 minutes she was out cold as witnesses and a bartender saw her walking out with Deepak and she could barely walk,he had to hold her by the arm to get her out of the bar and escort her to the car. Every single person said she was fine before Joran gave her that one shot of alcohol and everyone knows it,it's more then obvious what happened and the Kalpoes are definitely involved and know a great deal more.

This is what Natalee's Family and other's believe so you can think what you like,It's all backed up by witnesses,testimony and plenty of previous events,clues and facts that show the Kalpoes are involved and Natalee was preyed on,drugged and abducted. The sexual assaults/events that happened to Natalee was when she was unconscious and that is rape,its no coincidence that she dissapeared forever after being seen with these 3 and no one else after that. The modus operandi was definitely to drug and abduct one of the Mountain Brook students,although it is not clear if Natalee was targeted. If the man in the casino talking to Natalee is PVDS then that may be a clue,if you look at the charges against them in 2005 it said it was premeditated.
Thank you *******,you said that much better than I could have.We can't just pick and choose what we want to believe from the perps and witnesses.I choose to believe Beth and Dave and I totally believe that they know their daughter.
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« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2008, 07:15:26 AM »

Thanks San and Carp!!  I really mean it.

 

I tell ya ... some have climbed aboart the Devries' video recording bandwagon ... adhered to the Aruban plan:

"Let's distance everybody who participating in the event of that fateful morning when Natalee Holloway went missing as well as ... everybody involved in the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing EXCEPT Joran.  On May 30, 2005 ... this young man was only 17 years old which implies that he can be protected from serious legal consequences.  The measure of closure will silence the family ... media attention will fade and ... the disappearance of an 18 year old American citizen will become a distance memory."

CASE CLOSED!


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Janet,

Since I came to post on this board I have seen the theories about Peter and Patrick. Imo the theories about Peter and Patrick are absurd, but in Holland there are people who write the same kind of things about Peter and Patrick. The writers and journalist who try to claim this are working in cooperation with Renee Gielen and the VanderSloots.

I think it is weird to doubt a complete tape with voice and face from Joran, were you can clearly see that Joran, amongst other things, tells that Natalee does not come back over and over again. Instead of the Joran tape, those people prefer to believe a very dubious tape from Deepak and the story of the Gardener, who showed up weeks later and besides that tells a nearly unbelievable story. The timeline of the Gardener is not very correct and I do not believe someone is able to recognize three faces in the middle of the night in a flash. If that was the case, he would have gone to the police earlier. It is about a disappeared girl. So the reasons the gardener did not go to the police immediately, are unbelievable to me.
Weather Deepak panicked or not I do not know, but I can imagine he did.

Briany,the tape of deepak talking to Mr Skeeter's showed deepak himself,on tape,talking about this case.What do you think is dubious about it?
The gardener witness gave a sworn statement before a judge.This witness could only ID joran sitting in the drivers seat(of deepaks car),deepak sitting in the passenger seat(both joran and deepak tried to hide their faces)and one other person trying to hide in the backseat.
I believe there are a few witnesses to what happened that night but they were threatened and feel too scared to come forward.I also believe that's the reason the gardener came forward so late.Even while we were hearing about this witness,we were also hearing that he would be deported from the island.
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Beth believes Deepak was at the house of VanderSloot the first time she arrived there. The statements of Deepak and Dos Santos tell a different story without any conflict in the statements. Beth can also be mistaken. She did not catch any sleep and was very upset.

How is it possible the statements of Dos Santos and Deepak are not in conflict with eachother?

Was Dos Santos also in the complot?

Could you please copy the Dos Santos statements here so we can compare?Briany,just because 2 or 3 statements actually match up,saying the same things,doesn't mean it's the truth.They could have rehearsed these statements and practiced saying them and still it could all be lies.
You think I want to separate the Kalpoes and think I have something to do with Aruba. The fact that you start writing things like that about me, give me the impression that you refuse to look into another direction. I do not want to separate the brothers, If they are in this, they are it this.  As I told you before, it would not surprise me if it appearedthey are dragged into this by VanderSloot and his powerfull friends to separate VanderSloot. The statement of a bartender does not mean much to me. Joran is wellknown with the people working in C&C, so that is not a big surprise to be.


Think about it and read the official statements. Hearsay does not help much.


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« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2008, 07:53:48 AM »

PROCES – VERBAAL

We, Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head agent and agent first class at the Korps Police force Aruba, former classified at the (Atraco team) and last mentioned district 2, explain the following at the section to multi-crime classified.

On June 20 2005, around 17:15,  we interrogated, took a statement, as a witness of this man called:

Andre Montival AOKI Dos SANTOS,

Also known as "Dre", born at Sao Paolo in Brazil, on October 15, 1986, a student at (Mon Plaisier college) and living in Palm Beach number XXX on Aruba.

I, JACOBS, put on record and sounds as follows, statement given in papiamento.

On your question if I know the men " Joran Van Der SLOOT "," Deepak KALPOE and Satish KALPOE”:
I answer you yes.

I’ve known Joran longer than Deepak and Satish. I know Joran already approximately six (6) years. I know Satish already approximately two (2) years and I know Deepak already approximately (1) a year.

On your question if I on Sunday, May 29 2005, met Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:

On Sunday, May 29, 2005, around 16:30, I met Joran in the Excelsior casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. The moment I met Joran I was in the company of my father called "Montival SANTOS". Joran was in the company of father named “Paul” that is when my father and I met them in the “Excelsior Casino”. On that day we played in a "Texas Hold'm poker Tournament". Joran was first to be eliminated from the tournament. I no longer remember at what time Joran lost. I saw that Joran then played "black-Jack" and I continued play poker. After I was eliminated from the poker game I went over to Joran who was still sitting at the black-jack table. I no longer remember what time I left the poker table. When I stood beside Joran, I saw that there was a group of American students who were on holiday in Aruba talking. I saw that Joran helped one of the girls play black-jack. Joran told me that he was busy helping the girl with black-jack because according to Joran she had lost much money. After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group girls who were playing black-Jack with Joran walk by and I heard the girls say he should go to Carlos & Charlies later in the evening hours because they would like to meet him there. Joran answered for them not to worry, he would go. On Sunday, May 29, 2005 in the evening hours, after the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament at the Excelsior casino I ran into “Elvis KELLY ", and his wife "Gladys” and we all got into my fathers pick up and drove away. My father acted as a driver for our two passengers in his green pick-up of the make Ford Ranger, license plate number "A-23793". We drove first to Wendy's Palm Beach to buy food and after we had eaten, my father dropped off Elvis and Gladys at their home. Elvis and Gladys live in the hamlet Noord. I don’t know their address but I can designate to you their house. After we dropped Elvis and wife at their home my father and I went home. I no longer remember what time we got home. I studied first and afterwards slept because I had a "physics" examination to take on Monday, May 30, 2005, from 07.30 till 10.00. I do recall that Joran asked me if I wanted to accompany him to Carlos & Charlies but I answered him that I could not go because I had an examination the next day.

On your question if I on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the night hours, after I went to sleep if anyone woke me or called me:
I will answer you no.

On Monday, May 30 2005, in the morning hours, my mother wakened me because I had to leave to take my examination. I must say that my sister "Alessandra" and my younger brother "Arthur" went with me in my father’s pick-up to school.

On your question if I met Joran, Deepak or Satish on Monday, May 30, 2005, I answer you the following:
According to me, on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the afternoon hours, Joran sent me a message from his cell phone. Setar GSM provided with the number "5xxxxxx" me reported on my mobile telephone. Setar GSM provide with the number "5xxxxxx". According to me Joran me sent me a message with the question if I wanted to go to the Casa Blanco casino at the Wyndham that night. I did not answer Joran because when the message came I was sleeping.

On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 20.00, my father and I went to the casino at the Wyndham hotel to play Texas Hold’m poker. When I arrived I met Elvis KELLY and his spouse there "Gladys" and I greeted them. When we arrived I called Joran from the mobile telephone of my father “Montival”.  My father has the mobile telephone number  "5xxxxxx". I asked Joran if he was on his way to the Wyndham hotel casino to play in the Texas Hold’m tournament.  Joran told me he was on his way there. Around 20.30, Joran walked in to the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel. I can no longer remember how Joran was dressed when he walked into the casino. I do remember that Joran walked in by himself.  I walked up to Joran and I greeted him. I saw that Joran then registered to play Texas Hold’m poker. I must say that it lasted very long before the Tournament stared. I saw that Joran played black-jack during this time. Three Card but I now no longer remember which of the two. When I started Tournament I saw that Joran sat at another table to play poker. Joran did not play long because he was eliminated very early from this poker tournament. I no longer remember what time Joran was eliminated. I saw that Joran walking around in the casino. I saw then that "Guido WEAVER" came into the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel and walked up to Joran. I no longer remember what time Guido WEAVER arrives at the casino. Because Joran and Guido wanted to play a “live game”, they told me they went to Joran’s house to pick up money to gamble with. I no longer remember how Guido was dressed. I saw that Joran and Guido then went outside. When Joran and Guido left I was still in the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament. I estimate that it was approximately 30 or 40 minutes after Joran and Guido left the Casa Blanca casino that I was eliminated from the poker tournament. After I was eliminated, I called Guido and/or Joran on their mobile telephone. Guido has the mobile telephone with the number "5xxxxxx". I asked to Joran and/or Guido where they were they told me they were at the casino at the Radisson hotel and would wait for me there. I told them that I would be there later. Approximately 30 minutes after I had spoken with Joran and/or Guido I left the casino at the Wyndham hotel and walked to the casino at the Radisson hotel. I estimate that the complete route lasted (10) minutes. I found Joran and Guido in the casino of the Radisson hotel and they were in a Texas Hold'm poker "Live-Game". I remained watching them gamble for a very long time. At some time I saw that "Deepak" walk into the casino and came up to us. At some time, I no longer remember the exact time, Guido, Joran and Deepak left the casino and I stayed behind. Approximately (1) one hour later, Guido returned because he had silver-plate US $100 =, chip. I no longer remember if Guido continued to gamble but I am certain that Joran did. After Joran was done at the poker table he had won approximately US $400 = and cashed in the chips immediately. I walked to the bathroom and afterwards Joran also came into the bathroom but we spoke of nothing in particular. Then Joran and Deepak left because they wanted to play black-jack at a casino in Oranjestad.

They did not tell me to which casino they would go. After Deepak and Joran were gone "Guido WEAVER" and I went home (left). On your question if Joran and Deepak spoke of picking up shoes while in the casino of the Radisson hotel, I answer you no. At absolutely no moment did I hear this. I must, however, say that Joran and Deepak did not speak in my presence with each other than when Joran cashed in his chips but I was standing at a distance when they spoke with each other. I no longer remember if Guido was with them at that time.

On your question if I had Tuesday, May 31, 2005 and on Wednesday, June 01, 2005, contact with Joran, Deepak and Satish, I answer you the following:
According to me I had called Joran on of these two days to ask him what he would be doing. You can in my phone records look at when I called Joran or he called me because I no longer remember when. I had no telephone contact with Deepak and Satish.

A day before Joran was apprehended by you, I met Joran around 19.00, at the Aruba Raquet club. I asked Joran how he felt and he told me that he felt calm because the 2 security guards had been apprehended by the police force. Joran me asked what I would do the next day because he wanted to practice basketball and further that I was invited the next evening to his Graduation Night. This was the last time that I spoke with Joran.

On your question if I have an e-mail has address, answer I you yes. My e-mail address is xxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com. Sometimes I use chat name or "A.S." or "Andre" if I am to the chat.

On your question if I know Joran’s friends and if I have contact with them, answer I you the following:

The friends of Joran are Koen GOTTENBOS, Sander GOTTENBOS, Guido WEAVER, "Jaime" and "Freddy". I don’t know the surnames of Jaime and Freddy.

On your question if I know the e-mail chat name of these persons, answer you the following:
I have the e-mail addresses of Koen and Sander in my computer at home. I don’t have the e-mail addresses of Joran, Guido, Jaime and Freddy.

This is my true statement. If you have more questions, I will prepare to answer them.

A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS

After the witness A.M. AOKI dos SANTOS read his declaration, explained he thereby persist and signed them.

Of what our, statement, on oath of office made up this warrant, has been closed and has been signed at Oranjestad on June 20, 2005.

Signed,

DD JACOBS                                  L.A.G. CROES
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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2008, 11:46:50 AM »

Thanks San and Carp!!  I really mean it.

 

I tell ya ... some have climbed aboart the Devries' video recording bandwagon ... adhered to the Aruban plan:

"Let's distance everybody who participating in the event of that fateful morning when Natalee Holloway went missing as well as ... everybody involved in the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing EXCEPT Joran.  On May 30, 2005 ... this young man was only 17 years old which implies that he can be protected from serious legal consequences.  The measure of closure will silence the family ... media attention will fade and ... the disappearance of an 18 year old American citizen will become a distance memory."

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Janet,

Since I came to post on this board I have seen the theories about Peter and Patrick. Imo the theories about Peter and Patrick are absurd, but in Holland there are people who write the same kind of things about Peter and Patrick. The writers and journalist who try to claim this are working in cooperation with Renee Gielen and the VanderSloots.

I think it is weird to doubt a complete tape with voice and face from Joran, were you can clearly see that Joran, amongst other things, tells that Natalee does not come back over and over again. Instead of the Joran tape, those people prefer to believe a very dubious tape from Deepak and the story of the Gardener, who showed up weeks later and besides that tells a nearly unbelievable story. The timeline of the Gardener is not very correct and I do not believe someone is able to recognize three faces in the middle of the night in a flash. If that was the case, he would have gone to the police earlier. It is about a disappeared girl. So the reasons the gardener did not go to the police immediately, are unbelievable to me.
Weather Deepak panicked or not I do not know, but I can imagine he did.

Briany,the tape of deepak talking to Mr Skeeter's showed deepak himself,on tape,talking about this case.What do you think is dubious about it?
The gardener witness gave a sworn statement before a judge.This witness could only ID joran sitting in the drivers seat(of deepaks car),deepak sitting in the passenger seat(both joran and deepak tried to hide their faces)and one other person trying to hide in the backseat.
I believe there are a few witnesses to what happened that night but they were threatened and feel too scared to come forward.I also believe that's the reason the gardener came forward so late.Even while we were hearing about this witness,we were also hearing that he would be deported from the island.
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Beth believes Deepak was at the house of VanderSloot the first time she arrived there. The statements of Deepak and Dos Santos tell a different story without any conflict in the statements. Beth can also be mistaken. She did not catch any sleep and was very upset.

How is it possible the statements of Dos Santos and Deepak are not in conflict with eachother?

Was Dos Santos also in the complot?

Could you please copy the Dos Santos statements here so we can compare?Briany,just because 2 or 3 statements actually match up,saying the same things,doesn't mean it's the truth.They could have rehearsed these statements and practiced saying them and still it could all be lies.
You think I want to separate the Kalpoes and think I have something to do with Aruba. The fact that you start writing things like that about me, give me the impression that you refuse to look into another direction. I do not want to separate the brothers, If they are in this, they are it this.  As I told you before, it would not surprise me if it appearedthey are dragged into this by VanderSloot and his powerfull friends to separate VanderSloot. The statement of a bartender does not mean much to me. Joran is wellknown with the people working in C&C, so that is not a big surprise to be.


Think about it and read the official statements. Hearsay does not help much.



There are lots of people who give sworn statements.

I told you earlier why I think the statement does not look very reliable to me.

Look at this:
the gardener writes: I got out of bed and saw that on my watch it was 02:30. Before 03.00 I was at my work.

Was Joran’s phone call to Deepak from 02.26-02.34?

The gardener saw that is was 02.30. So Joran phoned Deepak while they were sitting in a car together? Yeah right.
The whole statement is loose sand and does not fit.
Recognizing people accidently in a flash, and coming out with this story weeks later?
Is it possible that the gardener was threatened in the first week? How?
 
The whole story of (Ramos) the gardener does not make any sense. Besides that, there was no reason for him not to go to the police at once.

So the gardener saw at his watch it was 02.30.  At that time Joran was already 4 minuten on the phone with Deepak. Fifteen minutes later, 02.46, Deepak was at home to send Joran a message from his computer, while at the same time Valentijn was on the computer in the VdS’s house?

The story looks impossible to me.

The Mr. Skeeter’s tape is dubious to me while Deepak denies some things he supposed to have said in the tape. Before the tape Deepak told he did not rape Natalee and after the tape he also tells he did not rape Natalee and on top of this in the tape itself he does not mention that he raped Natalee. It is easy to leave a few words out. 

Here are quotes from the statement of Deepak 11-06-2005.

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Satish came and picked me up from work at approximately 23:10 hours at my place of work. I had brought Satish home because he had school the following day, and also because my mother had been angry because we had stayed out late that day, and Satish hadn't gone to school. I then went to the "Radisson Hotel". When I arrived there I met up with Joran, Guido and Andre. Joran was playing in a poker tournament. I sat and watched. Joran was pretty inebriated that evening. We stayed there and played for about 2 hours after I arrived. I had arrived there at approximately 00;00 hours. At some point there was an verbal altercation between a tourist and Joran. The tourist was of the opinion that we were helping Joran. We said to Joran that it was better if we left. We then left. Guido left to take Andre home and me and Joran went to the "Wyndham" hotel. I wanted to play blackjack. When we arrived at the "Wyndham", while I was parking Joran received a telephone call on his mobile. He spoke to a person. I heard him say the name Paul. I assumed that he was talking to his father, because I know his father's name is Paul. After the conversation Joran said to me that it had been his father calling, and that he told him that there were police at their house and that it was about the girl that we had been out with the previous night. Paul also said to Joran that we should stay put and that he would come to pick us up. Joran had misunderstood that, and we drove to his house.

Here are quotes from the statement of Dos Santos 20-06-2005.

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On Sunday, May 29, 2005, around 16:30, I met Joran in the Excelsior casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. The moment I met Joran, I was in the company of my father called "Montival SANTOS". Joran was in the company of father named “Paul” that is when my father and I met them in the “Excelsior Casino”. On that day we played in a "Texas Hold 'em" poker Tournament. Joran was first to be eliminated from the tournament. I no longer remember at what time Joran lost. I saw that Joran then played "blackjack" and I continued playing poker. After I was eliminated from the poker game, I went over to Joran who was still sitting at the blackjack table. I no longer remember what time I left the poker table. When I stood beside Joran, I saw that there was a group of American students there, who were on holiday in Aruba. I saw that Joran helped one of the girls play blackjack. Joran told me that he was busy helping the girl with blackjack, because according to Joran she had lost much money. After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group of girls who were playing blackjack with Joran walk by, and I heard the girls say he should go to Carlos & Charlies later in the evening because they would like to meet him there. Joran told them not to worry, he would go.
On Monday, May 30, 2005, around 20.00, my father and I went to the casino at the Wyndham hotel to play Texas Hold’m poker. When I arrived I met Elvis KELLY and his spouse there "Gladys" and I greeted them. When we arrived I called Joran from the mobile telephone of my father “Montival”. My father has the mobile telephone number "5xxxxxx". I asked Joran if he was on his way to the Wyndham hotel casino to play in the Texas Hold’m tournament. Joran told me he was on his way there. Around 20.30, Joran walked in to the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel. I can no longer remember how Joran was dressed when he walked into the casino. I do remember that Joran walked in by himself. I walked up to Joran and I greeted him. I saw that Joran then registered to play Texas Hold’m poker. I must say that it lasted very long before the Tournament stared. I saw that Joran played blackjack during this time. When I started the tournament I saw that Joran sat at another table to play poker. Joran did not play long because he was eliminated very early from this poker tournament. I no longer remember what time Joran was eliminated. I saw Joran walking around in the casino. I saw then that "Guido WEAVER" came into the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel and walked up to Joran. I no longer remember what time Guido WEAVER arrived at the casino. Because Joran and Guido wanted to play a “live game”, they told me they went to Joran’s house to pick up money to gamble with. I no longer remember how Guido was dressed. I saw that Joran and Guido then went outside. When Joran and Guido left I was still in the Texas Hold'm poker Tournament. I estimate that it was approximately 30 or 40 minutes after Joran and Guido left the Casa Blanca casino that I was eliminated from the poker tournament. After I was eliminated, I called Guido and/or Joran on their mobile telephone. Guido has the mobile telephone with the number "5xxxxxx". I asked Joran and/or Guido where they were, they told me they were at the casino at the Radisson hotel and would wait for me there. I told them that I would be there later. Approximately 30 minutes after I had spoken with Joran and/or Guido, I left the casino at the Wyndham hotel and walked to the casino at the Radisson hotel. I estimate that the complete route lasted 10 minutes. I found Joran and Guido in the casino of the Radisson hotel and they were in a Texas Hold 'em poker "Live-Game". I remained watching them gamble for a very long time. At some time I saw  Deepak walk into the casino and came up to us. At some time, I no longer remember the exact time, Guido, Joran and Deepak left the casino and I stayed behind. Approximately one hour later, Guido returned because he had silver-plate US $100 chip. I no longer remember if Guido continued to gamble but I am certain that Joran did. After Joran was done at the poker table he had won approximately US $400, and cashed in the chips immediately. I walked to the bathroom and afterwards Joran also came into the bathroom, but we spoke of nothing in particular. Then Joran and Deepak left because they wanted to play blackjack at a casino in Oranjestad.

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« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2008, 01:38:44 PM »

I believe quite differently regarding the Skeeters tape.  If Deepak is denying what he said on the tape then just hand over the documents in his lawsuit against Dr. Phil and let's get it on in court.  Let's get the truth out there according to the Kalpoes.  They came to use the American Justice System for a reason.  Follow through and hand over the documents.

I'll quote Deepak on this one "Enough of this BS already".  If Deepak and Satish were such Goody Two Shoes then go to court and defend yourself.

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The Mr. Skeeter’s tape is dubious to me while Deepak denies some things he supposed to have said in the tape. Before the tape Deepak told he did not rape Natalee and after the tape he also tells he did not rape Natalee and on top of this in the tape itself he does not mention that he raped Natalee. It is easy to leave a few words out. 
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