The Anti-Christ

[Tamikosmom]

Prominent Evangelical Names Four Modern Horsemen of the Apocalypse
By Lillian Kwon
Christian Post Reporter
Wed, Jun. 11 2008 08:44 AM ET

INDIANAPOLIS – Many people say evangelicals are stuck on one issue – whether it’s abortion or same-sex “marriage” – when speaking out to defend moral values. But to those defending, it’s not just a single issue.

“Marriage is a single issue?” Dr. Richard Land, president of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, posed to thousands of Southern Baptists Tuesday. “It’s the building block of society.”

Land believes there are four “modern horsemen of the apocalypse” that are “riding forth to wreak havoc and destruction in our society” – the denial of the sanctity of human life, the rise of hardcore Internet pornography, the radical homosexual agenda and its attempt to undermine marriage and radical Islamic jihadism.

“Make no mistake about it. Radical Islamic jihadism has declared war on America and American civilization and Christianity,” Land emphatically said.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080611/32770_Prominent_Evangelical_Names_Four_Modern_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse.htm

[Tamikosmom]

Thanks to all for sharing scripture, I hope LV is reading here, since she mentioned we were off topic,but she wanted to learn and lots of answers here for her.
Janet, I got the book and what a page turner! Awsome read, however, I realize I'm reading the last book out of a series, so need to buy the 1st three. I hate reading series out od oerder, but can't put this book down!

Good Morning Dihannah

Di ... I confess that I have not even look at DEAD HEAT other that scan through the pages.  It looks like some heavy reading.

I know I will have lots of time without grandkids and computer while hubby and I are taking a trip to the Northern waters of British Columbia in our boat this summer.  Travelling as well as the hours hubby spends fishing will given me the uninterrupted time needed to comprehend Joel Rosenberg's words.

Hey ... I did not know DEAD HEAT was part of a series.

Anyways ... enjoy and ... please provide us with a short outline as you finish reading each chapter.  In some areas of my life I lack will power.  I am one who reads the last chapter of a book to see how the story  is going to end but ... I always read the book.

Have a great day.

 

Janet
10:15 AM

BUMPED

[Kermit]

i don't know if you ever look over your borders.
but the entire world is watching the US elections closely.


do you think all obama supporters are terrorists?

so that means than that half of the electorate is a terrorist.

Auntiem, you really need to get a grip.




   

caesu, your insipid grinning, your mastery of English, your anti-Americanism,  PLUS your immediate focus on my posts ring such a familiar bell!!!!   I THINK I KNOW YOU FROM PREVIOUS FORUMS AND BY A SLEW OF OTHER NICS!!!!

previous forums? then you are mistaken.
but to accuse me of anti-americanism, i am offended by that.
earlier you suggested i was a terrorist or something.
you must be such nice company if you disagree with someone.
accusing someone of such things.

and i know i make a lot of spelling errors. i wish i could edit my posts afterwards.
but this is not my first language. but my 3rd.

is there a way so i can make all your posts invisible. because i don't feel that they add anything towards discussion.
it's just ignorant hatefull accusations smearing and xenophobia.

Had a bunch of bees trying to swarm a nest the other day - I just sat and watched em get all fired up thinking they were going to plant their honey laden bums in my domain. LAUGH buddy Laugh. Some things are not worth getting upset about. You can see it, it's clear as day - then step aside and the bees went away trying to make their way into someone else's domain. That is just how some bees are!

ribbit wisdom comes in handy.

[Kermit]

Hi CAESU.   I find it curious you find American politics so interesting.   I've seen your tremendous interest and knowledge of Dutch politics, I'm just curious about your motivation in ours.  Is it the war?  Though, I don't agree with you,  I'm open to debate.   I am truly curious of your interest and steadfast support of Obama.  TIA

I am curious why you did not address Janet with the same inquiry - she is not an American.
Or is it because she supports your candidate for the American Presidency? And caesu supports the opposing candidate?

.... but ... but ... Kermit, I am your next door neighbour.  Then my darling DIL is American.  That implies that my future grandkids will be 1/2 American.  I think that makes somewhat related ... doesn't it?

 

Janet

No.

Unless you are giving up your Canadian citizenship. You are Canadian.

But the point is, no one is asking you - because you agree with their viewpoint and I thought it was insensitive to try to attack someone based upon their nationality just because they have an opposing viewpoint.

Would be nice to have discussion with backup information that supports the person's viewpoint rather then you're a commie type of answers.

Back to the pond.

[Kermit]

Steps to prophesy of the Anti-Christ: (what I figure so far and I'm not an expert)

Isaiah 8:18 Israel is a sign
Restoration of Israel - it became a nation in 1948

Ezekiel 37 talks about Restoration of Israel
          38 Rise of Russia. Russia IS a power again today
(Meshech is the ancient name of Moscow
Tubalsk represents the present-day Russia)

Daniel 7:7 - a former empire
10 horns are symbolic of its power
Daniel 8:23-24 Powerful man will come from a resurrected kingdom

Rise of worldwide lawlessness
2 Tim 3:1-5
2 Peter 3: 3-4
2 Corinthians 11: 14-15

The Greatest Revival in History
Acts 3:19-21
Isaiah 60: 1-3
Romans 5:20

Eastern Gate, in the old city of Jerusalem will be re-opened.

There are 11 Gates
7 OPEN: Jaffa, Zion, Dung, Lion's, Herods, Damascus, New(not sure of the spelling on that)




Deut 32:8 - When restoration of Gentiles comes to an end
Every Jew will go back to Israel
Restoration of Israel will take place
Romans 11 25-26 Then the Rapture will occur

[Tamikosmom]

Ribbit

 

[Kermit]

Ribbit

 

Whatcha jumping & dancing for ya little monkey!

 

[Tamikosmom]

Ribbit

 

Whatcha jumping & dancing for ya little monkey!

 

Hey ... you are jumping and dancing around more than me.

 

Kermit ... we are in agreement on the anti-Christ topic.  Now ... concerning the Barack Obama topic ...

 

Janet

[crazybabyborg]

Any thoughts about King Nebuchadnezzar's dream in Daniel 2?

[Kermit]

Ribbit

 

Whatcha jumping & dancing for ya little monkey!

 

Hey ... you are jumping and dancing around more than me.

 

Kermit ... we are in agreement on the anti-Christ topic.  Now ... concerning the Barack Obama topic ...

 

Janet

I understand.

I hope you'll be able to come over to the other side of the table and also look at the truth of that side too.
THEN base your points of view on the whole truth. That is what I like to do, if & when I can. Then make decisions based upon the entire truth and not from just one side of the truth.

I'm sure as the debate's begin, we'll see more surface about each candidate.

Continue jumping.
ribbit

[Kermit]

Any thoughts about King Nebuchadnezzar's dream in Daniel 2?

Daniel 8:9 little horn
Grecian Empire - springs forth from 1 division of 4 of the ancient Grecian Empires which emerged after Alexander the Great died.

Daniel 7: 7-8 Daniel will rise & conquer 3 horns (3 countries in old Roman empire)
those counties would be: Israel, Syria, Iraq

[Dihannah1]

Janet,

I finished the book a couple days ago and I really can't give updates, as there are so many twists and turns in every chapter.   I will note that, though it fiction, it's very plausable, from current events across the world now, which is what makes it that more interesting.   All I can say, is if you enjoy action packed and mysterious, this is the book for you, even if you are NOT an End of Times believer as revealed in the Bible.

I've since started Tim LeHaye's (author of Left Behind series) new series of four, so far, starting with Babylon Rising and is a little slower to start, but moving faster now, with plenty action and mystery as well.

So anybody is interested in learning about the Anti-Christ., I would recommend both of these series, as well as Left Behind.  I admit, Revelations, Daniel etc.   are hard to comprehend without help or alot of studying, so these are ways to get the jist of it, assuming it's literal, in an interesting story.

[Tamikosmom]

Oh, boy! I feel a lively discussion on the horizon! 

Tamik? I'm just curious. Whatcha' basing a 15 year tribulation on? That's not a calculation I've ever run into. I've always interpreted Daniel as depicting a 7 year tribulation with 3 1/2 years as the midpoint.

Disclaimer: I'm just picking Tamik's brain, not arguing! 

cbb ... I believe that you are right.  I will retrieve some of my end time books and ... have a boo.

Anyways ... I believe that in the beginning ... the anti-Christ's rule will be a honeymoon period where it will appear that he will have the ability to negotiate peace with Israel's enemies but ... behind the scenes the stage is being set up ... for the war of all wars against Israel.

I believe that Christ will return at this point for his Church.  The King of all Kings will not allow the Jews who recognize him as their  Messiah ... His chosen people ... to be annihilated.

I believe that the Rapture will mark the beginning of the tribulation ... the anti-Christ will be reveal for who he really is and ... world-wide Marxist/Islamic dictatorship will be established.

My eldest son and DIL disagree.  I am sure they have a Bible study on this topic at least once a week. LOL  They both adhere to the viewpoint that the Church will go through the Tribulation as a testimony to provide non-believers an opportunity to bow.  They are of the opinion that many believers who are of the persuation that the Church will not go through the Tribulation are going to submit to the anti-Christ as ... they will be unprepared for the hardship that everyday living will entail as illegal citizens ... no way of support their families ... no way of receiving government assistant ... medical attention ...

I told son and DIL not to worry ... if God does not call me first ... I would be with them whenever the Rapture occurred.  LOL

Janet

BUMPED

[Tamikosmom]

The End of the World As We Know It? Prediction of Saturday "Rapture" is Fuel for Faithful, Doubters
Published May 19, 2011

RALEIGH, North Carolina -- For some, it's Judgment Day. For others, it's party time.

A loosely organized Christian movement has spread the word around the globe that Jesus Christ will return to earth on Saturday to gather the faithful into heaven. While the Christian mainstream isn't buying it, many other skeptics are milking it.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/19/rapture-movement-predicts-end-world-saturday/


 

[Tamikosmom]

Reminder

No One Knows the Day or Hour
   
Matthew 24: 36-44

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[e] but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.