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« Reply #120 on: May 09, 2008, 11:34:40 PM »

We know at one time in the 80's the Mob bragged about owning 70% of Aruba. I am not saying the Fat Guy in this picture is a Mobster..But who the heck is he? Is he a leader in another Governement? He is right in the middle of Aruba's most powerful at this ceremony

Can you spot Mos in this picture? 



Is that Mos way in the back?

The big guy looks like John Candy.  imho

yes he is back there and was mentioned in that article IIRC... but it was Betico Croes Day. I would expect everyone to be there.

John Candy is a comedic legend.  This is a fat guy who needs a better tailor.  Those pants are too short.  He needs to get that pudgy paw off his gut.  Calls attention to that big belly...unless of course he's just trying to hide that he popped that first button on his coat.

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« Reply #121 on: May 09, 2008, 11:37:09 PM »

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Aruba is a Dutch island where P4P is legal if the establishment is registered with the Govt. This was my first trip to the island and I decided to explore the chica options.

Escorts From my experience, the chicas are from Colombia and Venezuela. The age of the escorts are in their 20ís. In the Aruba Today newspaper (free in hotel lobbies) there are escort services advertisements. Of the five I saw, I contacted three of them. A fourth I called did not answer the phone and I never tried the fifth, since by then I was busy with the chicas. Yap Yum. An escort is $100 US for an hour in your hotel room. If you need to get away, itís an extra $20 US for a motel room, he picks you up and return. The manager is Gene, a really nice guy. I ended up hanging out with him many nights in San Nicolas. I also sampled all his chicas. He had a service where he will take you to San Nicolas and explore the chica bar scene with you. This was very valuable to me since this was my first trip to the island. After that experience, I spent most of my nights in San Nicolas. Exotic. An escort is $100 US for an hour in your hotel room and during the day, he has a house you can use, which is near the hotel area, at no extra charge. He will pick you up and return. The manager (owner?) is Clerance(sp?), and English is not his first language. Clerance also runs the Players Gentlemenís Club (strip joint) in Oranjestad (I didnít get a chance to see it). Elite. The owner is Eddie and he charges $120 US per hour in your hotel room. He has a website at www.arubaescort.com. There was also advertisement for World Best Escort Services & Massage, and Doll House. I donít have any info on those.


Red Light District- San Nicolas This is where you will find the chica bars. Itís on the other side of the island from the hotels. It was reported that there are 31 chica bars in San Nicolas. There are usually 4 chicas per bar. Therefore, there are about 124 chicas (all from Colombia) in San Nicolas. Their rooms are next to the bars. All the chicas I talked with were in their early 20ís. You pay the bartender a room (and condom) charge and then you pay the chica. I found the usual price for the room to be $10 US and the chica $40 US per 30 minutes. I did have one chica ask for $30 US. Sometimes the amount of drinks I bought was deducted from the room charge. Of course, everything can be negotiated. Itís good to make friends with the bartender. Sometimes they are the owners of the bar. The chicas have 3 month contracts and they can only be in Aruba once a year (the escort girlsí situation seems to be different but I donít have the details on this). Most of the chicas are light skin, but they are some dark skin available. I explored the following bars; Minchis Bar, Kiss Me Night Club, Ron & Menta Bar, China Clipper Bar, Bongo Bar, Copacabana Bar, Carolina Bar, Atoma De Mujer, Chesterfield Bar, American Bar (with restaurant attached inside), Caracas Bar, Saikong, Sto. Domingo Bar, Las Vegas Bar, Java Bar, Black & White Bar, Roxy Bar, Pleasure Zone, Sayonara Bar, Baranca Bar, and Caribbean Bar. I went looking for petite/slender chicas and found a number of them. Basically, there are a lot of different body types among the Colombianas.

General Notes. The Florin and US dollars are used everywhere. But most places will give you Florin change back. A lot of places will not take any higher than a $20 US bill. They have had problems in the past with fake currency. ATM machines are available (I used the one in my hotel lobby a lot), but be warned- do not use ATM machines in the casinos, the fees are way too high). The ATM machine in my hotel lobby (Wyndham) did not charge a fee and I got US currency. Arubans are Dutch and they speak four languages (Dutch, English, Spanish, and Papiamento). You will need a car to visit San Nicolas unless you use the bus system. The taxis are too expensive. Itís also hard to find taxis in San Nicolas late at night. Aruba is more expensive (food, hotel, airfare, etc) than the Dominican Republic. There are a lot of Americans vacationing on the island and there is a lot of timeshare property on the island. When leaving the island, you go thru Aruba customs and then U.S. customs (if you are flying to the U.S.) in the airport, so get to the airport early. You land like a domestic flight back in the U.S. (which means that you can get home faster). My typical day was watersports (sailing, snorkeling, etc.) during the day, escort in the late afternoon, and San Nicolas at night. The chicas in San Nicolas are usually stuck there all day, so they really like it when someone picks them up and takes them into town (Oranjestad) or to the beach/movies, etc. You can get some real GFE action. The bars in San Nicolas are closed on Sunday.



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« Reply #122 on: May 09, 2008, 11:37:49 PM »

We know at one time in the 80's the Mob bragged about owning 70% of Aruba. I am not saying the Fat Guy in this picture is a Mobster..But who the heck is he? Is he a leader in another Governement? He is right in the middle of Aruba's most powerful at this ceremony

Can you spot Mos in this picture? 



Is that Mos way in the back?

The big guy looks like John Candy.  imho

yes he is back there and was mentioned in that article IIRC... but it was Betico Croes Day. I would expect everyone to be there.

John Candy is a comedic legend.  This is a fat guy who needs a better tailor.  Those pants are too short.  He needs to get that pudgy paw off his gut.  Calls attention to that big belly...unless of course he's just trying to hide that he popped that first button on his coat.


I thought he might be having a little "indigestion" 
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« Reply #123 on: May 09, 2008, 11:42:58 PM »

I was wondering if JVDS's passport was lost on purpose.  Issue a new identity and move JVDS to a new location.  Maybe a little test marketing to see where he would not be recognized.  Maybe a new name and face.



That's funny...kinda like Frakenstein in reverse....

What are the features that make Joran recognizable in a crowd? 

What makes him stand out in a crowd?

Height?  Can't really change that, he's already tall.  No elevator shoes for Joran.

Cheek bones?  hmmm...  Brow?  Jaw bone?  Ears?

I think there are small changes that would make him less identifiable.  A small thing here or there that would make people think he just looks like Joran van der Sloot, and at the same time make them think he is not. 

"Hidden in plain sight."


Might all work...until he opens his mouth.  His ego is so big, he's lost the ability to STFU.  I would think that would be important to the goal of staying alive and living happily ever after as a murdering scumbag.  He can't quit talking.  I'm counting on it being his downfall.
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« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2008, 11:46:21 PM »

STD/HEALTH TESTS Aruba

The club owners import 150-200 Columbian girls to work in their bars. The girls send photos along with a health certificate from home, and the clubs pick and choose the best ones. Upon arrival, the girls receive another health check and then rent rooms at the clubs for $30 a day. The girls do quite well under this arrangement compared to poverty-stricken Columbia, and the clubs foot the bill for their required weekly screenings, and they have only 90-day visas and then they canít return for yearÖall approved by the local government.

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« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2008, 11:47:07 PM »

We know at one time in the 80's the Mob bragged about owning 70% of Aruba. I am not saying the Fat Guy in this picture is a Mobster..But who the heck is he? Is he a leader in another Governement? He is right in the middle of Aruba's most powerful at this ceremony

Can you spot Mos in this picture? 



Is that Mos way in the back?

The big guy looks like John Candy.  imho

yes he is back there and was mentioned in that article IIRC... but it was Betico Croes Day. I would expect everyone to be there.

John Candy is a comedic legend.  This is a fat guy who needs a better tailor.  Those pants are too short.  He needs to get that pudgy paw off his gut.  Calls attention to that big belly...unless of course he's just trying to hide that he popped that first button on his coat.


I thought he might be having a little "indigestion" 

and is it just me, but aren't the other pants way to long?  Maybe i like a cleaner look on men. Not Johnny highwaters, but just breaking at the shoe...those are dragging at the shoe.  Is that the style now?
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« Reply #126 on: May 09, 2008, 11:47:17 PM »

I was wondering if JVDS's passport was lost on purpose.  Issue a new identity and move JVDS to a new location.  Maybe a little test marketing to see where he would not be recognized.  Maybe a new name and face.



That's funny...kinda like Frakenstein in reverse....

What are the features that make Joran recognizable in a crowd? 

What makes him stand out in a crowd?

Height?  Can't really change that, he's already tall.  No elevator shoes for Joran.

Cheek bones?  hmmm...  Brow?  Jaw bone?  Ears?

I think there are small changes that would make him less identifiable.  A small thing here or there that would make people think he just looks like Joran van der Sloot, and at the same time make them think he is not. 

"Hidden in plain sight."


Might all work...until he opens his mouth.  His ego is so big, he's lost the ability to STFU.  I would think that would be important to the goal of staying alive and living happily ever after as a murdering scumbag.  He can't quit talking.  I'm counting on it being his downfall.

I agree with Ya Peaches....his ego is soooooooo big....he wouldn't allow any changes to his looks....he thinks he's *perfect*....his mouth will be his downfall....just as you said....

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« Reply #127 on: May 09, 2008, 11:48:57 PM »

We know at one time in the 80's the Mob bragged about owning 70% of Aruba. I am not saying the Fat Guy in this picture is a Mobster..But who the heck is he? Is he a leader in another Governement? He is right in the middle of Aruba's most powerful at this ceremony

Can you spot Mos in this picture? 



Is that Mos way in the back?

The big guy looks like John Candy.  imho

yes he is back there and was mentioned in that article IIRC... but it was Betico Croes Day. I would expect everyone to be there.

John Candy is a comedic legend.  This is a fat guy who needs a better tailor.  Those pants are too short.  He needs to get that pudgy paw off his gut.  Calls attention to that big belly...unless of course he's just trying to hide that he popped that first button on his coat.


I thought he might be having a little "indigestion" 

and is it just me, but aren't the other pants way to long?  Maybe i like a cleaner look on men. Not Johnny highwaters, but just breaking at the shoe...those are dragging at the shoe.  Is that the style now?

Nope...that's just what happens to pants....when you have no *spine* to hold them up....
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« Reply #128 on: May 09, 2008, 11:51:23 PM »

Joran keeps talking, and talking, and talking.

I have to believe that after the recent witch hunts in the Netherlands (see the various youtubes) that he realizes that his life is not normal for someone his age.  He is not a rock star, and is not a member of the Hilton family (that I know of).

Maybe it would have been easier to just tell the truth.  Was he ever served with papers for the Dutch lawsuit?

Is there any update on that action?

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« Reply #129 on: May 09, 2008, 11:52:01 PM »

We know at one time in the 80's the Mob bragged about owning 70% of Aruba. I am not saying the Fat Guy in this picture is a Mobster..But who the heck is he? Is he a leader in another Governement? He is right in the middle of Aruba's most powerful at this ceremony

Can you spot Mos in this picture? 



Is that Mos way in the back?

The big guy looks like John Candy.  imho

yes he is back there and was mentioned in that article IIRC... but it was Betico Croes Day. I would expect everyone to be there.

John Candy is a comedic legend.  This is a fat guy who needs a better tailor.  Those pants are too short.  He needs to get that pudgy paw off his gut.  Calls attention to that big belly...unless of course he's just trying to hide that he popped that first button on his coat.


I thought he might be having a little "indigestion" 

TexasMom....he's really trying to keep that slimey little *alien* thingie from poopin' outa his chest.....
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« Reply #130 on: May 09, 2008, 11:56:02 PM »

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Let's call him...and ask him....one ringy dingy...two ringy dingy....
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« Reply #131 on: May 09, 2008, 11:56:35 PM »

Didn't JVDS have a friend that didn't speak Dutch or Papi?  A more recent immigrant to Aruba?  I remember the Spanish language PVs too.

JVDS would not have to spend years learning Spanish, it was all around him.  His friends, his vacations, the maid, the tourists, the Kalpoes?
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« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2008, 11:57:40 PM »

AZ, I'm with you!  Apparently nobody knows how to buy and/or tailor a pair of mens pants.  The long ones look ridiculous as well.

And what is going on with that orange dress?  Next to Mr. Hand on his Gut.  What is going on with the skirt???   Is it caught somewhere? 

Poor thing, once she gets that dress worked out, she might be more attractive without the Emily Litella style specs.  I'm just saying......
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« Reply #133 on: May 10, 2008, 12:03:15 AM »

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Let's call him...and ask him....one ringy dingy...two ringy dingy....

I've been in a playful mood tonight...I will step out of that roll for the moment....Jossy has/still is a very viable Friend to the cause...I was just joking about calling him...that is only the main number to the paper...

Jossy doesn't make everyone happy all the time...but...he does what he can...in a somewhat dangerous situation...I respect him.

Why may I ask...did you ask this question?....I'm only curious...
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« Reply #134 on: May 10, 2008, 12:03:49 AM »

Thank you to who responded to my post! HA  wanted to see who would respond. Business as usual!
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« Reply #135 on: May 10, 2008, 12:05:41 AM »

AZ, I'm with you!  Apparently nobody knows how to buy and/or tailor a pair of mens pants.  The long ones look ridiculous as well.

And what is going on with that orange dress?  Next to Mr. Hand on his Gut.  What is going on with the skirt???   Is it caught somewhere? 

Poor thing, once she gets that dress worked out, she might be more attractive without the Emily Litella style specs.  I'm just saying......


I like the orange/yellow dress...it is very colorful.  Very full of life.  The glasses have attitude.  I will admit that sometimes, attitude makes a strong statement in pictures.

It looks to me like the wind is blowing the skirt and hair.
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« Reply #136 on: May 10, 2008, 12:05:51 AM »

to Destiny, yes jossy

If you are asking if Jossy has ever posted at Scared Monkeys in the forum or the front page using either his name or a nickname, I would say NO.  Not that I am aware of.  I really don't think Jossy has the time nor inclination to be posting comments on the internet.
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« Reply #137 on: May 10, 2008, 12:07:09 AM »

Thank you to who responded to my post! HA  wanted to see who would respond. Business as usual!

Casa....sorry...I run in and out of the room...check computer....do other things.

Sorry I missed your post.....what was it about?

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« Reply #138 on: May 10, 2008, 12:07:20 AM »

Destiny, I didnt want his phone number!!!!  I wanted to know if he had a Scared Monkey name that he used when he talked to you alll.
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« Reply #139 on: May 10, 2008, 12:09:23 AM »

Klaas glad you are better. My daughter was in the hospital saturday through wednesday.  Scary situation! Hope you are doing well!
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