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WhiskeyGirl
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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The Kalpoe lawsuit is looking for millions and millions for damage to a reputation. How the reputation damaged by the lies and prior association with JVDS?
The VDS family files compensation claims for all that has happened to them. How might things have been different if they and others had told the truth from day one?
J2K and others are still alive to file their claim$$$$$.
How much is the one dead girl worth in this kind of system?
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 13, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: hotping on May 13, 2008, 12:11:46 PM
YW MUM! If Anyone else needs a name checked in the US...let Me know...
YES!!!! Ernesto Arambatzis!!!! Pretty please...and TIA
Ernesto Arambatzis DOB 8/18/77 3470 East Coast Ave Apt#504 Miami Fl Issued 1/30/2006...original issue date 12/12/95..there are also two other addresses....7934 W Drive Loft Apt 1001 and 7934 West Drive, North Bay Village Fl...
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Mum,
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on May 13, 2008, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 13, 2008, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on May 12, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
WhiskeyGirl ... Beth Holloway ... the media ... Monkeys ... are not going to be appeased ... not going to go away ... if "only" Joran is implicated in the Natalee Holloway case. There is too much documentation in the form of transcripts, suspect/witness statements which implies otherwise. Even the press releases from the "powers that be" within the investigation ... those who are in a position to know.
However ... a door that Prime Minister Oduber has left wide open which may be the catalyst that brings the Natalee Holloway case to a conclusion ...
Aruba will concede that a "incompentent" ... not "corrupt" ... investigation makes it impossible to bring to justice all those who participated in the events which encompass the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing. Aruba will assure that those involved in the "incompentent" investigation will never again work within the Aruban Law Enforcement. A financial settlement will be offered to the family.
CASE CLOSED!
Janet
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Posted 8/22/2005 11:36 AM Updated 8/22/2005 11:59 AM
Aruba leader acknowledges early mistakes in probe
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) —
Aruba's prime minister believes that authorities made mistakes at the start of the investigation of the Natalee Holloway case, a government spokesman said Monday.
Beth Holloway Twitty, who has often criticized authorities on the Dutch Caribbean island since her daughter disappeared on May 30, met in private with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber over the weekend.
"I think that he's in absolute agreement that the initial investigation has been so badly botched," Holloway Twitty said on NBC's "Today" show.
She said the prime minister also told her that Aruba needs to review the first stages of the investigation to find out "who let this go wrong."
Oduber told reporters over the weekend that during the meeting he assured the Alabama woman that investigators would not stop looking for answers about the fate of her 18-year-old daughter.
Government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said Monday the prime minister had expressed concerns about the initial investigation, though he used more cautious language.
"The prime minister agreed that in the beginning the case could have been better handled," Trapenberg said. "He didn't say it had been 'botched
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Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen leaving a bar with three young local men on the final night of a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Police and hundreds of volunteers have searched the island, but found no trace of her.
An 18-year-old Dutch resident of Aruba, Joran van der Sloot, has been detained as a suspect but no charges have been filed. At a hearing in September, a court is expected to decide if there is enough evidence to continue holding him.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-22-aruba_x.htm
I believe that
one person
may be incompetent, but for people involved in the investigation, prosecution, judiciary? What kind of place is this? Aren't there processes in place to help overcome the incompetency of one individual?
The original request for a search of the VDS compound, the granting of the search request, and the changes on site come to mind. How often are such requests modified on-site? Under these circumstances? Where is the check and balance in this system? The review? The appeal? Anyone see conflicting interests at play?
What about future incompetents?
How much is one life worth on Aruba? How much are the Kalpoes asking for?
There are some things money cannot buy or replace. imho
I agree.
However ... Aruba will assure American tourists that lessons have been learned from the Natalee Holloway case in regards to potential conflicts of interests that may influence justice and ... changes in policy have been established accordingly.
Blah Blah Blah
CASE CLOSED!!!
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Thanks Hotping and Rob...I found something at sunbiz for a company as well back in 2005, but all I keep coming up with is old info. I will check the addresses that Hotping listed as I only had the one from the Shango thread!
He said he was born in Porlamar which is on Isla Margarita, but Freddy lists that he is from Maracaibo Venezuela?
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 12:37:35 PM
Mum,
Thanks Rob...I did save some info on the company somewhere? LOL There are docs from lots of states on them! I found a lot when I searched the two guys names individually. The California guy was Westerland or something like that? Will check again a little later and see if I can find it! The guy from Aruba lives in Florida now IIRC.
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Whiskeygirl ... I believe that initially the coverup established by those within the Natalee Holloway case to protect their own implied that it would be only a matter of time before a missing 18 year old American citizen would become yesterday's headlines.
However ... Aruba had not anticipated the perceptive abilities of Beth Holloway Twitty ... the perceptive abilities that recognized the conflicts of interest within her daughter's investigation. If the "powers that be" had realized the outcover of the initial coverup ... Joran's age would have dictated that he would have been the sacrificial lamb from the getgo. He would have received a slap on the wrist but ... held accountable nevertheless.
At
that
point in time ... the family of Natalee Holloway would have been appeased. Justice would have appeared to have prevailed.
However ... at
this
point in time ... it is too late to turn back the clock ... the "Joran only" strategy will not work. In three years ... too much info has been revealed ... info that implicates Deepak, Satish, Paulus ...
This is the reason I believe that Aruba will concede an "incompetent" investigation. There will be no accountability by those who participated in the events of the fateful morning. The implication ... justice will never prevail for Natalee Holloway.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on May 13, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
The Kalpoe lawsuit is looking for millions and millions for damage to a reputation. How the reputation damaged by the lies and prior association with JVDS?
The VDS family files compensation claims for all that has happened to them. How might things have been different if they and others had told the truth from day one?
J2K and others are still alive to file their claim$$$$$.
How much is the one dead girl worth in this kind of system?
I think the Aruban powers decided early on that one murdered American girl wasn't worth anything and that they had everything to lose if it ever got out that she was killed by a Dutchman's son. Bad move, it has cost them three years of unnecessary grief, countless millions of tourism income, and it would have been well over by now had they simply prosecuted the crime THEY KNEW HAD HAPPENED AND BY WHO. It is now proven they were aware Joran committed the crime the first 48 hours, Jannsen and Straten had heard the seizure statements and instead tried to pin it on the two black security guards, and who was pulling their strings?
Latest news out of Aruba is that the government is millions of florins in deficit already this year despite raising taxes. But according to them, it's just a flesh wound.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 11:31:51 AM
here we go... I found the correct image
Top of the day to you Bro! Have enjoyed your comments, maps and humor this morning, lol!
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 11:31:51 AM
here we go... I found the correct image
And I might add that he isn't the only troll that lives or works within pissing distance of an ATA office.
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 12:37:35 PM
Mum,
CARUBA INTERNATIONAL CONSULTANCY N.V.
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST
Date of incorporation 24 JANUARY 2001
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN STRICKEN FROM OUR FILES 9 NOVEMBER 2004
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
SHEW-A-TJON, IVAN FERDINANT;
Residing in
18720 NW 3RD COURT , PEMBROKE PINES, FLORIDA 33029-1374, U.S.A.
Born in ARUBA on 16 JUNE 1952
Nationality AMERICAN
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 24 JANUARY 2001
Authority FULL
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Bearlyhere
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 13, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: ******* on May 12, 2008, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: texasmom on May 12, 2008, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: ******* on May 12, 2008, 10:56:28 PM
Hello TM
Your right,Caps called Super Dirty Hands
Deutekom
the behavioral specialist,who was involved with PVDS last year in the false identifications scam. Not Kuiperdal
Advokatenkantoor Mr. J. Kuiperdal
Address: Rooi Koochi 46A
Phone: (297) 584-4107
Categories: Lawyers
Hi *******
Yes, that's him. I'd still like to see proof of Kuiperdal's death; puzzles me that I can't find anything....
You sure he's not a practicing lawyer on the island?
Judge J.S. Kuiperdal
J S. Kuiperdal
Firm: C. Helen Werleman-Lejuez
Address: PO Box 1354
Italiestraat 12
Categories: Lawyers
Advokatenkantoor Mr. J. Kuiperdal
Address: Rooi Koochi 46A
Phone: (297) 584-4107
Interesting that he works in the Lejuez law firm...much more so than most of you guys think at this moment. No wonder nothing came of things in Aruba concerning this case. All I can say is....hmmmmmm.
I was hmmmmmming at the same thing. Is there any way to get justice when everyone involved with the government/law is either related or sleeping with someone or both?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 10:05:13 AM
Gabe Leo left a comment on Michelle's site a long time ago saying ~
'Beth was the worst client Helen ever had' (paraphrased) and claimed that Helen was his cousin.
I don't trust those Lejuenz's at all.
Beth actually expected justice, a foreign concept to Helen.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 -
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Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on May 13, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
The Kalpoe lawsuit is looking for millions and millions for damage to a reputation. How the reputation damaged by the lies and prior association with JVDS?
The VDS family files compensation claims for all that has happened to them. How might things have been different if they and others had told the truth from day one?
J2K and others are still alive to file their claim$$$$$.
How much is the one dead girl worth in this kind of system?
Are the Kalpoes going to sue Gerold Dompig for his words that implicate them? Are the Kalpoes gong to sue Joran for his words in his declarations?
Janet
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Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 13, 2005
Quote from: Blonde on February 05, 2008, 03:22:45 PM
I, Jan van der STRATEN, police chief with the Aruban Police Corps, state the following.
On Monday June 13th 2005, at approximately 13.00 hours I spoke informally with the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus v/d SLOOT at the police station in Oranjestad.
On my question to Joran whether he can tell me what happened after the girl had fallen asleep on the beach near Fisherman's Hut, he answered:
“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”
To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”
During the conversation Joran showed differing emotions. Sometimes he cried, sometimes he was direct in his answers.
Joran also indicated that he was very sorry for his family and that he had the best contact with his father.
When I asked him why did he lie to his father about the Holiday Inn, Joran answered that he had disappointed his father in/with that.
Of this I reported on my oath as officer on June 17th 2005.
J. van der STRATEN
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2572.msg341469#msg341469
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GEROLD DOMPIG
Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
October 12, 2005
So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that.
But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 2, 2005
COSBY: Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell.
Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?
DOMPIG:
Yes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 8, 2005
DOMPIG: I still believe that these boys have been lying, they're still lying, and everybody knows that by now.
So there's no doubt in my mind that they know something, they're guilty of something.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/
Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
November 12, 2005
DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.
So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
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Now, is there any connections to Ft. Lauderdale, FL? Just wondering...I can't see any, but then I can't speak several languages so I might miss something.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 13, 2008, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on May 13, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
The Kalpoe lawsuit is looking for millions and millions for damage to a reputation. How the reputation damaged by the lies and prior association with JVDS?
The VDS family files compensation claims for all that has happened to them. How might things have been different if they and others had told the truth from day one?
J2K and others are still alive to file their claim$$$$$.
How much is the one dead girl worth in this kind of system?
Are the Kalpoes going to sue Gerold Dompig for his words that implicate them? Are the Kalpoes gong to sue Joran for his words in his declarations?
Janet
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Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 13, 2005
Quote from: Blonde on February 05, 2008, 03:22:45 PM
I, Jan van der STRATEN, police chief with the Aruban Police Corps, state the following.
On Monday June 13th 2005, at approximately 13.00 hours I spoke informally with the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus v/d SLOOT at the police station in Oranjestad.
On my question to Joran whether he can tell me what happened after the girl had fallen asleep on the beach near Fisherman's Hut, he answered:
“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”
To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”
During the conversation Joran showed differing emotions. Sometimes he cried, sometimes he was direct in his answers.
Joran also indicated that he was very sorry for his family and that he had the best contact with his father.
When I asked him why did he lie to his father about the Holiday Inn, Joran answered that he had disappointed his father in/with that.
Of this I reported on my oath as officer on June 17th 2005.
J. van der STRATEN
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2572.msg341469#msg341469
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GEROLD DOMPIG
Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
October 12, 2005
So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that.
But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 2, 2005
COSBY: Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell.
Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?
DOMPIG:
Yes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/
Gerold Dompig
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 8, 2005
DOMPIG: I still believe that these boys have been lying, they're still lying, and everybody knows that by now.
So there's no doubt in my mind that they know something, they're guilty of something.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/
Gerold Dompig
THE ABRAMS REPORT
November 12, 2005
DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.
So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/
The word "scam" comes to mind...just saying.
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Croes not happy with Steenhuis as temporary PG
The Aruban minister of justice, Rudy Croes, finds it unfortunate that controversial oud-PG have been proposed as temporary provureur general for Aruba. Croes says however that he has a solution for the conflict with the current PG, Theresa Croes-Fernandes, which sits at home because of a labour dispute.
Dato Steenhuis
Croes has troubles with the proposal of a new, temporary Procurator-General who has been in a contoversies. Steenhuis be came in the Netherlands serveral times controversial, among other things because of conflicts of interest. The Court of Justice clearred him. "I find it unfortunate that me has been recommended someone whom has had his conversersies" finds Croes nevertheless. But the minister of justice is soon without PG and it is necessarry that a decision has been taken.
Labour dispute
The current Aruban Procureur-General Theresa Croes-Fernandes, sits now approximately a year at home because of a labour dispute. From the principle of equality the Aruban PG must earn was much salary as het Antillian colleague. "I understand that, however,", thus the minister of justice, "but we had to regulate that." Croes tries to use the half yearly consultation between the Aruban and Antillian ministers to reach a proposal. "Wednesday we have to reach a solution. Then we say to the Procureur-General: this is the solution; you accept it or you return and go back to work."
Disproportional
Croes also spoke on the ministerial consultation concerning the future of the common court. Because the voice of Aruba is ‘in this disproportional small the island wants reach a new form of decision-making. It remains one court. But with a view to the future two commissions must come, of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba, with a new model. However, it has been agreed the eqaulity laws must be applied as much as possible, says minister Croes.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080513_croes.html
audio interview with Croes:
http://download.omroep.nl/rnw/smac/cms/car_croes_steenhuis_20080513_44_1kHz.mp3
listened to that too.
Croes says Ballin recommend Steenhuis.
he wasn't happy with it but he had no choice because else he would be without a PG.
he still tries to resolve the Fernandes Croes salary issue. both Jörg and Steenhuis are temporary PG.
Fernandes Croes is still the official PG, but she is in effect on strike for more wages.
if he can't resolve this by wednesday he has to nominate Steenhuis for approval at the kingdoms cabinet so the queen through the governor can install Steenhuis.
als Croes want more votes in the Higher Court on Curaçao.
now Aruba has 2 votes and the Antillen 20 he says.
end of the year St. Maarten and Curaçao are planned to become a country.
and Bonaire, Saba and St. Eustatius special Dutch municipalities.
he doesn't talk anymore about a seperate Higher Court for Aruba.
he sticks to the shared Common Higher Court.
although he still might want to move that to Aruba i guess.
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I fail to comprehend why Phil McGraw requires any backup documents from the investigation.
When McGraw implied that Deepak had raped Natalee he was relying on the the Skeeter recording as his source. Why is Deepak's own words not the only evidence required ... Deepak's own words that can be revealed on the original hard drive which was turned over to the FBI?
Does anyone have an explanation?
Thank you.
Janet
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On the Record w/ Greta
December 1, 2005
VAN SUSTEREN: We are also curious what the FBI has to say about the content of this interview. I was told by Jamie Skeeters on the phone the other night that he originally "taped" this interview directly to his computer hard drive and that he gave the hard drive to the FBI. Of course this hard drive — the "original" — is what will tell us exactly what was said or not said ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html
Beth Holloway Twitty
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 30, 2005
COSBY: So there was nothing taken out of context, as they‘re even suggesting?
TWITTY: No, not that I could see, Rita. But you know, I know that Jamie Skeeters will have to give the information on the tapes,
but I do stand by him and his validity on the tapes
, Rita.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/
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Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on May 13, 2008, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: Rob on May 13, 2008, 10:55:01 AM
I wish Beth would have taken a wooden clog and kicked Chuckie right square in his tackle box.
freakin' eunuch!
oh crap Rob...now we are going to get called the "bible toting vigilantes" again!!!
I'll accept that as a compliment Lis.. no harm there!!
Maybe Chuckie should team up with Jimmy Carter to re-build the Lago slums and spend his time a little more wisely. After-all that's where he was hatched like a reptile.
I could use some new reptile shoes and a new belt made from Chuck's backside. I bet we could make a purse for every grandmother here. LOL
Rob, thanks for the thought, I'll take a pass. I don't know where that butt has been.
I think Lisa should be the one to tan the hide.
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