Natalee Case Discussion #752 5/15 - 5/20/08

[Blonde]

Pita

THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!

I have been search for that transcript forever.

Do you happen to have the link?

Again ... THANK YOU!

Janet

Janet, I'm sorry I don't.      I found it in my notes, but didn't have a link.

Do you remember Palus said NO CAMERA's when he let Beth & Greta in at one point

[Observer]

Paul Van Der Sloot and Deutekom worked the same case last year with the false ID'S/Licenses..His clients included Steve Croes brother Jeremy and Booshi Wever's nephew who walked. Dompig testified that because the DMV moved all the evidence was lost, which is absurd.

[Observer]

Pita

THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!

I have been search for that transcript forever.

Do you happen to have the link?

Again ... THANK YOU!

Janet

Janet, I'm sorry I don't.      I found it in my notes, but didn't have a link.

Do you remember Palus said NO CAMERA's when he let Beth & Greta in at one point

Yes..He asked for the camera to be turned off 3 times when they first met at the gate.

[Destiny]

Paul Van Der Sloot and Deutekom worked the same case last year with the false ID'S/Licenses..His clients included Steve Croes brother Jeremy and Booshi Wever's nephew who walked. Dompig testified that because the DMV moved all the evidence was lost, which is absurd.

By Goddess...I think he's got it!

Thanks *******   Des...

[2NJSons_Mom]

This may have already been posted....Deutekom mentioned here at this site, but I can't translate....the tables are something I would think msmarple would be interested in:

http://www.minszi.aw/04170701noticia.htm

[Buckeye]

Rob

As far as I know, Ali B (a Dutch singer) has nothing to do with the case.  All I did was look at the screen shots posted and watch the video.  The picture you asked about was taken from Pauw and Witteman show Dec 10, 2007  (they were showing a lot of old clips).  I went to that show and read the info, it mentioned Ali B.  Don't know if he was there as a promo or to discus case.  At that time, I believe Mos was saying the case would be closed by Dec. 31st.  I don't remember.

[Observer]

Also in the Aruban news this week is a drug trafficking ring inside the KIA..It makes me wonder if this is the reason Jose Tromp is missing? I am not buying that he was killed because he owes money and I have seen no info that he has anything to do with Natalee.

[Buckeye]

I believe the prosecutor's name is Frans van Deutekom.  I have no idea who Maarten Deutekom is.

[bleachedblack]

>>>>SNIP
Introductory statement by the Head of the Netherlands delegation, Piet de Klerk, Netherlands Human Rights Ambassador on the occasion of the consideration of the fourth report by the Kingdom of the Netherlands
pursuant to its obligations under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment
Geneva, 7 May 2007

Mr Chairman,

distinguished members of the Committee,

ladies and gentlemen,

It is an honour for me to address your Committee on the occasion of your consideration of the fourth report by the Kingdom of the Netherlands pursuant to the Convention against Torture. We hold the work of the Committee in high esteem, and my delegation is looking forward to a productive exchange of views.

The report to be considered today and tomorrow contains our response to the Committee’s concluding observations on the previous report, as well as information on new measures and developments relating to the implementation of articles 1 to 16 of the Convention. It covers the four-year period from 1999 to the end of 2002, and deals with the European part of the Kingdom and Aruba.

I am happy to note, though, that all three constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands – that is: the Netherlands, the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba - are represented in our delegation. Let me introduce the members of the delegation:

   1. Martin Kuijer, senior legal adviser on human rights at the Legislation Department of the Ministry of Justice
   2. Jeroen de Jong, senior legal adviser at the Custodial Institutions Agency of the Ministry of Justice
   3. Taetske van der Reijt, senior legal adviser at the Police Department of the Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations
   4. Femma Pais, legislative lawyer at the Legislation and Legal Affairs Department of the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport
   5. Frans Clabbers, senior policy adviser on mental health care at the Curative Care Department of the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport
   6. Pieter Ramaer, counsellor at the Permanent Mission of the Netherlands to the United Nations, Geneva
   7. Fabio Rossi, policy adviser at the UN Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Those are the delegation members of the European part of the Kingdom. Then:

   1. Joan Theodora-Brewster, head of the Prevention, Juvenile Protection and Judicial Facilities Section, and Deputy Director of the Justice Directorate, Netherlands Antilles
   2. Gilbert Benita, Assistant Director of Housing at Curaçao Prison in the Netherlands Antilles
   3. Frans van Deutekom, public prosecutor in Aruba
   4. Angelique Peterson, head of the Legal Affairs and Treaties Division, Foreign Relations Department in Aruba.

And I am Piet de Klerk, Human Rights Ambassador, heading the delegation.

http://tinyurl.com/5827f3

[Lala'sMom]

Oh my!  I forgot about license gate!  Now I remember...well just so you will know this is guy is who Caps thinks is the Dirty Hand...I suppose the dirty hand that walks in all houses...now...does he still walk in these houses and continue to influence what happens there? 

If my understanding of Caps theory is correct this guy is the one that knows the answers to all our questions. Of course, I might be wrong...shhhh!

[bleachedblack]

Well the above Snip I posted is date may 2007 and he is listed as being on the committee. It appears he along with others ensures there are no violations against prisoners rights?

[Tamikosmom]

Caps on Deutekom :

like I said, this Man is the behavior specialist, a prosecuter inside the Prosecuter office and he is the won that has to build the case so that when time come to face the Judge, he is right there blabling his findings some truth and some fabricate from his team if he want you to go to jail. He is the won that ask how many year to get. Most of the time, the judge concurs right there. No if or Buts.

He is also if do not want you in Jail, he will make sure you can get off with tactical fabrication of facts or strange theories so that you can walk.

Super DirtyHand. everyone is that office is afraid of him IMO.

Is is not the one that is on TV. he is not a show man. He is the one that pulls all strings.

Is this accepted as the Gospel truth just because CAPS said it or ... is this CAPS' theory.  I am sincerely attempting to understand why a poster who implies that Natalee's stepfather is not above suspicious in one of his very first posts in January ... to stating ... not implying ... that Beth lied in regards to Natalee being a virgin ... is held is such high regard on the SM forum ... even the mods.

CAPS has a full grasp of the English language ... it is reveal in post after post.

Something is not right and ... I wish somebody would explain CAPS to me.

Janet

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SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!

I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!

There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!

SS...I have read that as well...I have also read where he said it was other apartments, Dutch owned and not the Matty apartments. I am not going to go back to the first thread and find Cap's posts as I questioned him more than a couple of times as to why he changed his mind and he never answered!

He also didn't respond as to why he told me no to the Ind/Lion's Den in the first thread.

All that being said...he hasn't backed up his posts...just because Caps said it, doesn't make it so!

 I am sorry I don't mean to upset you, but you can post Caps posts forever and I will just keep telling you what he said previously.

I still want to know why he changed from the other apartments to the Matty and he will not answer!!!!!

[SS]

The person I want to know more about is this guy...

Deutekom was driving a car that night<<<< snipped from Mum's post>>>>>

This is suppose to be one of the main Dirty Hands in all this...and still I can't even spell his name right much less find out about him.

It seems like there are so many Dirty Hands.  Is Deutekom the same one who was supposedly driving a car that night and also the same Dirty Hand that someone recently posted a picture of who owned car dealerships?

[Observer]

Janet:

Just because I post something it doesn't mean I think it's the "gospel truth"..It's important to look at all information and resources and investigate it to find the truth,if it's questionable then it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Much of what I read from Caps appears to be his honest attempt at finding out the truth and I have no reason to think otherwise. Granted he changes his theories,speculates and doesn't answer specific questions it doesn't bother me at all because I think he is trying to help. He brings info here that no one else does and I can handle him not answering my questions. I do not see any evidence that he has any wrong intentions here and you can see by his recent info on the pond,its location and witnesses he has been right on the money.

[KarmaRoundUp]

First a Book club at the Van Der Sloot house and now Anita hosts Moments Of Silence. Is Anita in the running for the next woman of the year award in Aruba?

Going by what I can understand about this article anita sloot-hugen was born in arhem,holland in 1956.Can anyone understand more of this article?

[bleachedblack]

Is he #25 at the very bottom?

http://tinyurl.com/69vkjj

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Page #48 listed among Aruban Authorities with whom consultations were held

http://tinyurl.com/632j64

[2NJSons_Mom]

I believe the prosecutor's name is Frans van Deutekom.  I have no idea who Maarten Deutekom is.

Frans van Deutekom is mentioned in the link I posted earlier, in the paragraphs following the tables.

[texasmom]

The person I want to know more about is this guy...

Deutekom was driving a car that night<<<< snipped from Mum's post>>>>>

This is suppose to be one of the main Dirty Hands in all this...and still I can't even spell his name right much less find out about him.

It seems like there are so many Dirty Hands.  Is Deutekom the same one who was supposedly driving a car that night and also the same Dirty Hand that someone recently posted a picture of who owned car dealerships?

SS,
There has never been a picture of Frans Deutekom posted to my knowledge.

[Tamikosmom]

Janet:

Just because I post something it doesn't mean I think it's the "gospel truth"..It's important to look at all information and resources and investigate it to find the truth,if it's questionable then it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Much of what I read from Caps appears to be his honest attempt at finding out the truth and I have no reason to think otherwise. Granted he changes his theories,speculates and doesn't answer specific questions it doesn't bother me at all because I think he is trying to help. He brings info here that no one else does and I can handle him not answering my questions. I do not see any evidence that he has any wrong intentions here and you can see by his recent info on the pond,its location and witnesses he has been right on the money.

 

******* ... if that is what it is all about ... then I see the writing on the wall.

Janet

[Destiny]

First a Book club at the Van Der Sloot house and now Anita hosts Moments Of Silence. Is Anita in the running for the next woman of the year award in Aruba?

Going by what I can understand about this article anita sloot-hugen was born in arhem,holland in 1956.Can anyone understand more of this article?

Yes...it says she has very bad tastes in clothes....especially bathing suits...and that her husband and eldest son...are lying...stinking murderes...