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« Reply #480 on: May 17, 2008, 09:06:26 PM »

IMO Anita isn't much of an artist.
There are children's drawings on my refrigerator that look much better.
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« Reply #481 on: May 17, 2008, 09:06:27 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.
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« Reply #482 on: May 17, 2008, 09:09:54 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #483 on: May 17, 2008, 09:10:32 PM »


Pita

THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!

I have been search for that transcript forever.

Do you happen to have the link?

Again ... THANK YOU!

Janet

Janet, I'm sorry I don't.   Crying or Very sad   I found it in my notes, but didn't have a link.

That link would be to scrux and it was posted by Medley.

The information however is incorrect for that date.
You'll have to search for the correct one.

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MEDLEY:
http://scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3606&sid=5af44ef51c11a8ac535183044bac97bd


THIS IS THE TRANSCRIPT LINK FOR THAT DATE WHICH LOOKS TO BE THE WRONG DATE FOR THE POSTED INFORMATION
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299356,00.html


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Kermit, thank you for the followup!!  Now seeing that it came from Medley, I understand why the date is incorrect.     
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« Reply #484 on: May 17, 2008, 09:12:14 PM »

Has Private Eye been around lately?  Miss him. 
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« Reply #486 on: May 17, 2008, 09:12:26 PM »

IMO Anita isn't much of an artist.
There are children's drawings on my refrigerator that look much better.

 
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« Reply #487 on: May 17, 2008, 09:15:47 PM »



    (She looks a little "tipsy" in that one picture.  Enjoying herself too much).  Doesn't look like she misses her little sporter.

Blue Moon...yes...Anita is very happy...she's lugging around another little sporter in that big ole' belly...when the old one goes rotten....replace it....
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« Reply #488 on: May 17, 2008, 09:18:59 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes


You're holding out on us, and you have information.    Should we be getting excited that something is about to happen at the pond?  Can you get us some pictures?
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« Reply #489 on: May 17, 2008, 09:19:07 PM »

The Kalpoes came from Suriname to Aruba, right?  I remember reading somewhere that they had to leave Suriname becuase of trouble they had there.  Did we ever find out why they left and what kind of trouble they had?  A little background check on them from their homeland might be interesting.
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« Reply #490 on: May 17, 2008, 09:19:14 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes

Lala's...to me poor old eyes...it looks like that might be the low point of the pond...chit flows downhill...I think they took about 5-6 inches deep of dried mud with them...

OK wreck...tell me how it's really .05 of an inch....come on...tell me....LOL!...neener neener neener....
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« Reply #491 on: May 17, 2008, 09:19:29 PM »


Pita

THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!

I have been search for that transcript forever.

Do you happen to have the link?

Again ... THANK YOU!

Janet

Janet, I'm sorry I don't.   Crying or Very sad   I found it in my notes, but didn't have a link.

That link would be to scrux and it was posted by Medley.

The information however is incorrect for that date.
You'll have to search for the correct one.

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MEDLEY:
http://scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3606&sid=5af44ef51c11a8ac535183044bac97bd


THIS IS THE TRANSCRIPT LINK FOR THAT DATE WHICH LOOKS TO BE THE WRONG DATE FOR THE POSTED INFORMATION
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299356,00.html


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Kermit, thank you for the followup!!  Now seeing that it came from Medley, I understand why the date is incorrect.     

Anybody know if Miss Underestimated is Medley?  I believe I found the information about Greta's "crawl under the table comment", here on SM, no link provided.

Comment #116 on the FP

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/02/22/in-a-post-natalee-holloway-aruba-tourism-is-still-down-and-not-close-to-what-it-once-was/
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« Reply #492 on: May 17, 2008, 09:19:39 PM »

She's too old to have anymore kids..thank heaven!
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« Reply #493 on: May 17, 2008, 09:22:49 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes


You're holding out on us, and you have information.    Should we be getting excited that something is about to happen at the pond?  Can you get us some pictures?

Yep...this Lawyer Dude in NY is *holding* out on us...spill the beans SS...spill em!!!...just kidding....Wink
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« Reply #494 on: May 17, 2008, 09:25:10 PM »

I only have more pics of the pond from February.  Sorry. No new photos...yet.  I can only hope they found a reason to continue looking for things under that mud. I have wondered if ground penetrating radar would help.
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« Reply #495 on: May 17, 2008, 09:25:19 PM »

She's too old to have anymore kids..thank heaven!

She didn't have the first one...remember, she was abducted by aliens....implant....they missed...wrong hole...that's what that smell is....JORAN!!!

Klaas....I spank my own paw....will be better....hands ripe banana to Klass....
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« Reply #496 on: May 17, 2008, 09:26:31 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes

Lala's...to me poor old eyes...it looks like that might be the low point of the pond...chit flows downhill...I think they took about 5-6 inches deep of dried mud with them...

OK wreck...tell me how it's really .05 of an inch....come on...tell me....LOL!...neener neener neener....
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« Reply #497 on: May 17, 2008, 09:27:23 PM »

Back when Reihlworldview first started blogging about NH in June 2005 I was one of the first people to advance the theory that organized crime, corruption and conspiracy had to be involved given the history and tradition of Aruba, itself.

I was ridiculed, belittled and laughed at and called a conspiracy nut by those who were the heavy posters at the time.  Of course here I use a different name and moniker than over there but it is interesting to me that some three years later this group over here at SM is even deeper into the very thoughts I presented back then.

Now, like SS I have an advanced degree but my expertise on my graduate level happens to be Governmental Affairs with special and considerable expertise into bureaucratic rule making and resource economics. But of course nobody in the past posting relationships over there had any idea of that which is my point right now.

You never know who it is that is doing the posting regarding their real persona or who they might really be -- the internet being so anonymous.  Of course Klass has ip address and all but that is only one part of what anything means in this world of proxy severs and all one could post and look like they are based in Sri Lanka when they might be in Memphis, Tennessee.

That is why I carefully read the material from Caps.  Apparently Klass has much closer contact with this poster than any of the rest of us, and if there was reason to be alarmed I feel Klass would have long ago pulled the plug or banned if she felt there was malicious or dangerous material being spouted out here.

You never know when and where that one clue to solve this case will come from.  Personally I feel that Caps has much more information to share that can safely be posted here and it is possible that this individual might actually be an investigative insider.

In any investigation -- particularly where government officials might be corrupt, it is good idea to not share all the cards one is holding -- especially to the entire internet community. I know this because I have been involved myself in the past in investigating high government corruption.

This is a special community here but it is not a "closed" member only community -- it is wide open for the entire world to see -- both the good guys and the bad guys.  In order to solve the mystery here we have to "feed each other" information, albeit sometimes shrouded in riddles and secrecy, in order to stimulate this investigative brainstorming machine called Scared Monkeys.

If I was to be a betting man here based upon my own expertise and education I wold guess that Caps is trying his best to be above board and helpful.  Same thing with OE. But there are certain things that just can not be shared because they might tip off the bad guys or even give legal reason to contaminate the process of legal evidence presentation in the courts later on.

I believe everyone here has good intentions but it is sad that some take it to a level of being more personal than productive.  To each his or her own regarding whether or not you believe a certain poster or their theories, beliefs or facts.  Lets not attack each other but carefully study what is said and draw our own conclusions.  It is all being done in a collaborative spirit here.

As for me, Caps -- I know you are reading about this debate -- come on back please and enlighten us further with your work and theories.  We need everything we can as far as this case is concerned because we obviously have not solved it yet, right?

INHO

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« Reply #498 on: May 17, 2008, 09:29:02 PM »

Sorry I slaughtered your nick, Klaas... I put Klass instead of Klaas because my fingers were going faster than my brain and I know you have a lot of CLASS anyway...
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« Reply #499 on: May 17, 2008, 09:31:32 PM »

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.



 

You've got it reversed.  LaLa's Mom has the scoop, not me.

I don't see it as having been dug up...yet.  All I see is some of the dirt has been removed but there is no dirt piled up on the sides that would indicate anything but scraping the surface had occurred. But then again, what would I know about that pond?   Rolling Eyes


You're holding out on us, and you have information.    Should we be getting excited that something is about to happen at the pond?  Can you get us some pictures?

Yep...this Lawyer Dude in NY is *holding* out on us...spill the beans SS...spill em!!!...just kidding....Wink
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